@Emeraldfern You're mother seems like a really strong person, I'm so glad to hear she got through all that (I got a little teary eyed reading that!), and you and your brother must give her a lot a of strength [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie] That is how it should have been in ME3, clearly it is not just realistic for Thane to die, he had someone to live for (FemShep) and FemShep should have been able to pull him through that.
If there was practically no hope to save the galaxy from the reapers and Shepard managed to do that (well it's not really clear what happened at the end but let's assume we did) why is it such a big deal to spend a lot of time and money and effort into saving the love of your life? Bioware throws the word 'love' around a LOT in ME3 but it doesn't feel real.
I'm sick of hearing that it would be a 'cop out' if Thane survived, and i'm even more sick of hearing people say that it would have been bad for fans who had lost loved ones from an illness in real life to see Thane survive, because it would be emphasising that they couldn't do anything about their loved ones in reality. NO. The point of video games is to get OUT of reality, and to be able to save those you love, and to save the galaxy, and to do all sorts of cool stuff. These are all people who have no idea what their talking about. Don't you think it would emphasise that they couldn't save their loved ones in reality if their loved ones in a virtual world ALSO died without any way to save them? Idiots.
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#4477
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 10:58
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oh man...i'm not getting in this thread again >.< i got the feeling to miss so much, and up to tomorrow i'm gonna be offline for 4 days. can somebody pls update me???
#4478
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:21
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I have just read through the long rants/feels and I agree with it all. @Emerald, I'm really glad to hear about the strength of your Mom, to me that is more emotional than any death. Those are the kinds of things one takes with them, "Look at how strong that person is, if only I had half that strength." I could go on a tear with BW as to why I feel that death and just plain old bad luck should not be, my life alone is not the stuff of legends, it has seen more pain than one should be able to tolerate. I thank my less than normal family and their ability to laugh through tears for allowing me to be able to pick myself up from the following crap in my life.
Military brat, moving constantly to the point I eventually closed myself off to anyone because saying goodbye just became too painful. We wouldn't stay anywhere for years, try weeks or months, gotta love the Army at times. Then separated from my father because my parents noticed what was happening to me (yay for observant parents) and thus I was in the care of my Mother and her parents. At 13, I had to go through the out of the blue death of my grandfather (yep the one who helped raise me), it was enough to break me mentally. It would give me the skill to detach from unpleasant circumstances. Not really a good thing, for 20 years I convinced myself my grandfather never died and never bothered to go to Massachusetts again (tis where he lived). During my non fairy tale life, I've been raped, beaten, abused, had to beg for my own life (the ex husband was a sadistic one, thought making me get on my knees with a loaded .22 to my head making me plead for my own life was exciting for him). That detachment worked well for me, it was like watching it happen to someone else and not me. If that were not enough, imagine the feeling of not being able to help someone, being too late. My neighbor and friend Ken, who was going through a rough divorce, came to me and after talking looked at me and said, "You've always been good to me, thank you. Can you do one more thing for me? Call 911, I'm going to kill myself and I can't let my family just find me there." I picked up the phone in shock, watched him walk across our land, pick up his shotgun, and I tried to run, to scream I was 50 feet away, phone in my hand yelling at 911 when I heard the gun go off and Ken fall over. The image of seeing someone kill themself in such a manner still haunts me. I can't look over in that area of the land. I saw my 12 year old nephew get brain cancer until it finally took him 5 years later. The strength of that little man amazed me. He never gave up hope or ever gave in, he fought until his last breath. Another hard one, holding the hand of a child as their life is leaving them.
Let's not forget my little cousins who I took in because their father had a habit of taking things that did not belong to him. Their broken faces at such a young age not understanding why their father is now gone for awhile. Ten years later, he will let them down again. At least they are teenagers but this time, he won't be coming back. My cousin decided that stealing wasn't enough for him, no let's murder two people in the process this time. Other than his mother, his daughters, and myself not one person stood behind him. There were a lot of empty seats behind him in the courtroom. But I cared for him, I still loved those two girls he was letting down once again. My father has nearly died twice (heart attack and being hit by a car, literally, playing the hero and pushing the trooper out of the way to take the blow) and trust me when I tell you, the loss of my father will probably break me for good. I hope he manages to outlive my azz. My husband having liver disease, bless him. Giving me an out, telling me I don't have to marry him that I deserved a real life, a happy life because mine has been so full of sh*t. Well too bad for him, I didn't walk away. I may disconnect for awhile but I don't walk away. I may be messed up, twisted, and far from normal but one thing hold true for me. Love does not and should not ever come with conditions.
So just why in the heck with all that crap would I go into a game and then pick the one man for my Shep who tells me his is dying. Well because I didn't see the dying part. He wasn't an illness, he was Thane and he was interesting and dammit he was hope. Why in all that is holy would they throw this guy a flaming bag of crap and then kill him? Hasn't he seen enough pain? Does this man not deserve some happiness? I mean more happiness than a some stolen moments with Shep. I figure there is no way in heck they are going to shovel more garbage on top of him. But they did! See my life, I've had more than my fair share of heartache and yet, I'm happy. So, what are they trying to tell me? Thane is dying and his life has been crap so he should just roll over and die? No. I don't think so. I would still cry if he overcame this illness and lived a long happy life. I would cry even thinking about it. Why? Because he would be the testament to the spirit of man, to never give up and to never lose faith.
Jackholes got it backwards. We are not touched by loss, we are touched by the individual who continues to walk and to fight when the whole world tells them it is foolish to do so.
For those that think death is a good thing in games, it adds drama and gives you real emotion. Guess which one I cried harder over, Mordin, Legion, or Grunt? Grunt. That's right. I cried when I thought he was a goner. The tears flowed and then I cried harder when I saw him walk toward Shep. It took me a bit to calm down. Grunt fought the odds down there and came out on top. He showed it, the strength of the individual, the will to live, to beat the impossible odds, and I cried harder than I did over the deaths of Mordin or Legion. Now why didn't Thane get the same thing?
I did cry harder over Thane's death than I did Grunts but it was NOT because he died. It was the whole way it was handled, the mistakes, the WTF moments, I was in complete awe at the magnitude of character assassination they did to him. This strong man and they did that to him. Turned him into basically, nothing. Nothing. Further driven home when no one remembers him and this is where I can hear that damn line from Twilight New Moon.......
It will be like I never existed.....
Military brat, moving constantly to the point I eventually closed myself off to anyone because saying goodbye just became too painful. We wouldn't stay anywhere for years, try weeks or months, gotta love the Army at times. Then separated from my father because my parents noticed what was happening to me (yay for observant parents) and thus I was in the care of my Mother and her parents. At 13, I had to go through the out of the blue death of my grandfather (yep the one who helped raise me), it was enough to break me mentally. It would give me the skill to detach from unpleasant circumstances. Not really a good thing, for 20 years I convinced myself my grandfather never died and never bothered to go to Massachusetts again (tis where he lived). During my non fairy tale life, I've been raped, beaten, abused, had to beg for my own life (the ex husband was a sadistic one, thought making me get on my knees with a loaded .22 to my head making me plead for my own life was exciting for him). That detachment worked well for me, it was like watching it happen to someone else and not me. If that were not enough, imagine the feeling of not being able to help someone, being too late. My neighbor and friend Ken, who was going through a rough divorce, came to me and after talking looked at me and said, "You've always been good to me, thank you. Can you do one more thing for me? Call 911, I'm going to kill myself and I can't let my family just find me there." I picked up the phone in shock, watched him walk across our land, pick up his shotgun, and I tried to run, to scream I was 50 feet away, phone in my hand yelling at 911 when I heard the gun go off and Ken fall over. The image of seeing someone kill themself in such a manner still haunts me. I can't look over in that area of the land. I saw my 12 year old nephew get brain cancer until it finally took him 5 years later. The strength of that little man amazed me. He never gave up hope or ever gave in, he fought until his last breath. Another hard one, holding the hand of a child as their life is leaving them.
Let's not forget my little cousins who I took in because their father had a habit of taking things that did not belong to him. Their broken faces at such a young age not understanding why their father is now gone for awhile. Ten years later, he will let them down again. At least they are teenagers but this time, he won't be coming back. My cousin decided that stealing wasn't enough for him, no let's murder two people in the process this time. Other than his mother, his daughters, and myself not one person stood behind him. There were a lot of empty seats behind him in the courtroom. But I cared for him, I still loved those two girls he was letting down once again. My father has nearly died twice (heart attack and being hit by a car, literally, playing the hero and pushing the trooper out of the way to take the blow) and trust me when I tell you, the loss of my father will probably break me for good. I hope he manages to outlive my azz. My husband having liver disease, bless him. Giving me an out, telling me I don't have to marry him that I deserved a real life, a happy life because mine has been so full of sh*t. Well too bad for him, I didn't walk away. I may disconnect for awhile but I don't walk away. I may be messed up, twisted, and far from normal but one thing hold true for me. Love does not and should not ever come with conditions.
So just why in the heck with all that crap would I go into a game and then pick the one man for my Shep who tells me his is dying. Well because I didn't see the dying part. He wasn't an illness, he was Thane and he was interesting and dammit he was hope. Why in all that is holy would they throw this guy a flaming bag of crap and then kill him? Hasn't he seen enough pain? Does this man not deserve some happiness? I mean more happiness than a some stolen moments with Shep. I figure there is no way in heck they are going to shovel more garbage on top of him. But they did! See my life, I've had more than my fair share of heartache and yet, I'm happy. So, what are they trying to tell me? Thane is dying and his life has been crap so he should just roll over and die? No. I don't think so. I would still cry if he overcame this illness and lived a long happy life. I would cry even thinking about it. Why? Because he would be the testament to the spirit of man, to never give up and to never lose faith.
Jackholes got it backwards. We are not touched by loss, we are touched by the individual who continues to walk and to fight when the whole world tells them it is foolish to do so.
For those that think death is a good thing in games, it adds drama and gives you real emotion. Guess which one I cried harder over, Mordin, Legion, or Grunt? Grunt. That's right. I cried when I thought he was a goner. The tears flowed and then I cried harder when I saw him walk toward Shep. It took me a bit to calm down. Grunt fought the odds down there and came out on top. He showed it, the strength of the individual, the will to live, to beat the impossible odds, and I cried harder than I did over the deaths of Mordin or Legion. Now why didn't Thane get the same thing?
I did cry harder over Thane's death than I did Grunts but it was NOT because he died. It was the whole way it was handled, the mistakes, the WTF moments, I was in complete awe at the magnitude of character assassination they did to him. This strong man and they did that to him. Turned him into basically, nothing. Nothing. Further driven home when no one remembers him and this is where I can hear that damn line from Twilight New Moon.......
It will be like I never existed.....
#4479
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:30
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I know it isn't much, but I made a mod that replaces Liara in the ME3 flashback scenes with Thane.
I took a nice flycam shot and color-corrected so it fits in with the other scenes.
The project and instructions can be found here:
http://social.bioware.com/project/8243/
A preview of what it looks like has been uploaded to my channel here:
It's no where near what we should have, but at least it's something.
I took a nice flycam shot and color-corrected so it fits in with the other scenes.
The project and instructions can be found here:
http://social.bioware.com/project/8243/
A preview of what it looks like has been uploaded to my channel here:
It's no where near what we should have, but at least it's something.
#4480
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 01:23
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Oh my god, utaker.. I cried . You have been through so much, I cannot even imagine.. this makes me so so angry at everyone who thinks that Thane's death was deserved and that he was at peace in those last moments.. and at Bioware who thought it was ok to just leave the romance like that. It was so sad because he clearly was not at peace with his death, despite what he said, he was alone and he may have had his son and even Shep, but who is happy to die the way he did? Maybe, MAYBE if there was much more appropriate interaction between Shep and Thane in ME3 it COULD have been bittersweet, but there wasn't. I cried when he died because he was in so much pain, and he shouldn't have died that way, not on my Shep's watch.
. You have been through so much, I cannot even imagine.. this makes me so so angry at everyone who thinks that Thane's death was deserved and that he was at peace in those last moments.. and at Bioware who thought it was ok to just leave the romance like that. It was so sad because he clearly was not at peace with his death, despite what he said, he was alone and he may have had his son and even Shep, but who is happy to die the way he did? Maybe, MAYBE if there was much more appropriate interaction between Shep and Thane in ME3 it COULD have been bittersweet, but there wasn't. I cried when he died because he was in so much pain, and he shouldn't have died that way, not on my Shep's watch.
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 01:23
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@wildannie, sunnie7699
Thank you for your words. They mean a lot. Really they do!
@utaker1988
A thank you to you as well.
I will honestly say that the loss and pain you have suffered in life is someting I can't fully comprehend, but, I offer my deepest sympathy and I sincerely hope that life will keep granting you happiness.
*Hugs* (Because hugs are underestimated even if it's a virtual one)
@AislinnTrista
Great job! If I played on PC that would definitely go in my game!
Thank you for your words. They mean a lot. Really they do!
@utaker1988
A thank you to you as well.
I will honestly say that the loss and pain you have suffered in life is someting I can't fully comprehend, but, I offer my deepest sympathy and I sincerely hope that life will keep granting you happiness.
*Hugs* (Because hugs are underestimated even if it's a virtual one)
@AislinnTrista
Great job! If I played on PC that would definitely go in my game!
#4482
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 02:35
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@Emeraldfen: *cuddles* Very glad your mom got through this, reading about it just above made my eyes tear up!!She sounds so strong and so amazing and you are all very lucky to have one another!
I believe in willpower and I believe we are definitely not defined by things that happen to us, be they good or bad; those things shape us, give us different outlooks on life, but they're building blocks, at best, not our essence!:/
What they did to Thane was the pure and simple result of sloppy, careless writing and no consideration at all for the fans or the characters involved and that includes FemShep, as well!
BW actually admitting they dropped the ball still galls me to no end!
I could accept it, to an extent, I'd still feel hurt and sad and depressed, if they had done this thoughtfully, in a reasonable, well-written way that generated sad feelings-because, let's face it, even if Thane did die a good death,which he did NOT, we'd still cry our eyes out, but it'd be a bittersweet feeling, I think.
As it is now, it's like someone just dropped a hammer on our fave character out of the blue, with no thought and no reason or point. The feeling is not bittersweet, it's pure,senseless poison!:/
As for those, clueless people who
I believe in willpower and I believe we are definitely not defined by things that happen to us, be they good or bad; those things shape us, give us different outlooks on life, but they're building blocks, at best, not our essence!:/
What they did to Thane was the pure and simple result of sloppy, careless writing and no consideration at all for the fans or the characters involved and that includes FemShep, as well!
BW actually admitting they dropped the ball still galls me to no end! I could accept it, to an extent, I'd still feel hurt and sad and depressed, if they had done this thoughtfully, in a reasonable, well-written way that generated sad feelings-because, let's face it, even if Thane did die a good death,which he did NOT, we'd still cry our eyes out, but it'd be a bittersweet feeling, I think.
As it is now, it's like someone just dropped a hammer on our fave character out of the blue, with no thought and no reason or point. The feeling is not bittersweet, it's pure,senseless poison!:/
As for those, clueless people who
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#4483
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 07:07
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utaker1988 wrote...
*snips*
Jackholes got it backwards. We are not touched by loss, we are touched by the individual who continues to walk and to fight when the whole world tells them it is foolish to do so.
For those that think death is a good thing in games, it adds drama and gives you real emotion. Guess which one I cried harder over, Mordin, Legion, or Grunt? Grunt. That's right. I cried when I thought he was a goner. The tears flowed and then I cried harder when I saw him walk toward Shep. It took me a bit to calm down. Grunt fought the odds down there and came out on top. He showed it, the strength of the individual, the will to live, to beat the impossible odds, and I cried harder than I did over the deaths of Mordin or Legion. Now why didn't Thane get the same thing?
I did cry harder over Thane's death than I did Grunts but it was NOT because he died. It was the whole way it was handled, the mistakes, the WTF moments, I was in complete awe at the magnitude of character assassination they did to him. This strong man and they did that to him. Turned him into basically, nothing. Nothing. Further driven home when no one remembers him and this is where I can hear that damn line from Twilight New Moon.......
It will be like I never existed.....
Holy hell woman! How have you never been on Oprah? And more *hugs* for all the strength that you are! It is amazing what people can overcome when they are determined that it will NOT become WHO they are.
And your points above on ME3 - AGREED. I cried when Mordin died, but it was well done, and he was fighting for what he believed was right. And they wrote great lines like "someone else might have gotten it wrong", and they had him singing...Grunt. I didn't think I could take it just after Mordin, but to see him stumble towards Shep was
I shed more tears then than for Mordin. And then came Thane...poor, pathetic, "I'm dying" Thane. All I can say is "ditto" to your comments above. I'm pretty sure I even threw a couple of things. Thankfully no one was home but me.
And as for the part I bolded - so true. He even says in ME2 that there will be no one to mourn him - turns out BW figured that was a good idea. <bastarts>
#4484
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 07:15
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heya 
just wanna to say, that i'm offline for the next 4 days until tueday^^
i'm going on holiday and just getting out off the university stuff and so on^^
fight for me too, when i'm off
see ya tuesday
bye bye *wave*
just wanna to say, that i'm offline for the next 4 days until tueday^^
i'm going on holiday and just getting out off the university stuff and so on^^
fight for me too, when i'm off
see ya tuesday
bye bye *wave*
#4485
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 07:19
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I rise my glass for you Utaker, and sincerely I tell you: you are someone great. May the life be gentle to you in future since you have paid in advance for it.
Now about why they couldn't accept the simple fact that some people in their customers NEED an happy ending story with the love interest character they have been introduced and pushed in choosing and loving in game ? I don't know. Sometime pride make people do stupid things for wrong reasons. When you write a story you start with a goal and some points to lead to it. But when you let someone else read it, this person bring in their own living experience, feelings and memories who make them react in their own way to your story. Making a game is the same thing: if you want a game stuck in one way only why make one who allow people to create and choose things in this story that make it different for each? WHy put romance in the story if you not want it be a part or influence of the storyline ? And even IF you do it just to make money and attract a wider variety of customers to your story to be sure enough people buy it, why in the hell not aknowledge everyone desire and allow them to get an ending satysfying them? Happy customers, happy fans = succes. it is ./.
If you wanted a stucked story to your own sad mood, why not just publishing a book or a movie? Or a cartoon or whatever old school artistic stuff that you could keep to your very own and personal taste ? If you invite people to your dining room, you put salt and pepper and maybe pimiento etc so they can accomodate their plate to their taste aren't you? Then when they want to use it you tap their hand and frown. And if they insist in wishing to put more salt in their plate you could argue with them that you wish they eat your meal in its tastyic integrity?
(I know I create words lol). If you not want people come eat at your house you should simply not invite them over...
I'm so despress...
And to those who are still mourning Thane's infamous end, I listened to this song earlier and honnestly the lyrics are just perfect to my shepard and Thane story: (not sure if the link will work thought). From one of the best music band in the world.
Now about why they couldn't accept the simple fact that some people in their customers NEED an happy ending story with the love interest character they have been introduced and pushed in choosing and loving in game ? I don't know. Sometime pride make people do stupid things for wrong reasons. When you write a story you start with a goal and some points to lead to it. But when you let someone else read it, this person bring in their own living experience, feelings and memories who make them react in their own way to your story. Making a game is the same thing: if you want a game stuck in one way only why make one who allow people to create and choose things in this story that make it different for each? WHy put romance in the story if you not want it be a part or influence of the storyline ? And even IF you do it just to make money and attract a wider variety of customers to your story to be sure enough people buy it, why in the hell not aknowledge everyone desire and allow them to get an ending satysfying them? Happy customers, happy fans = succes. it is ./.
If you wanted a stucked story to your own sad mood, why not just publishing a book or a movie? Or a cartoon or whatever old school artistic stuff that you could keep to your very own and personal taste ? If you invite people to your dining room, you put salt and pepper and maybe pimiento etc so they can accomodate their plate to their taste aren't you? Then when they want to use it you tap their hand and frown. And if they insist in wishing to put more salt in their plate you could argue with them that you wish they eat your meal in its tastyic integrity?
(I know I create words lol). If you not want people come eat at your house you should simply not invite them over...
I'm so despress...
And to those who are still mourning Thane's infamous end, I listened to this song earlier and honnestly the lyrics are just perfect to my shepard and Thane story: (not sure if the link will work thought). From one of the best music band in the world.
#4486
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 07:24
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Aislinn Trista wrote...
I know it isn't much, but I made a mod that replaces Liara in the ME3 flashback scenes with Thane.
I took a nice flycam shot and color-corrected so it fits in with the other scenes.
The project and instructions can be found here:
http://social.bioware.com/project/8243/
A preview of what it looks like has been uploaded to my channel here:
It's no where near what we should have, but at least it's something.
OMG HOW I PUT THIS ON XBOX
*Cries*
love you
#4487
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 08:15
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@utaker that's more heartache than anyone should have to endure in a lifetime. I am fortunate to have endured much much less although it has not always been a bed of roses, and still isn't.
In a way I find it easier to square up with the chaos of reality, because I know that I can only do my best and that I can't control everything and just have to cope as best I can with whatever hand is dealt. In an RPG which is meant to be entertaining, attempts to evoke real feelings of loss and despair feel like an insult. It is a very subtle craft to generate emotion from fiction and it is very easy to produce clumsily 'emotional' scenes that are emotional for all the wrong reasons (romanced Thane in ME3 being a good example).
I just cannot get my head round why a company who are producing entertainment could possibly think that making people sad is a good thing.
I don't think they fully appreciate that games like mass effect have the potential to develop a far deeper emotional engagement than books of films ever could, and what that means in terms of their own responsibility to produce something that is enjoyable rather than being a total head***k.
sorry... wine...rum... Friday... rant
In a way I find it easier to square up with the chaos of reality, because I know that I can only do my best and that I can't control everything and just have to cope as best I can with whatever hand is dealt. In an RPG which is meant to be entertaining, attempts to evoke real feelings of loss and despair feel like an insult. It is a very subtle craft to generate emotion from fiction and it is very easy to produce clumsily 'emotional' scenes that are emotional for all the wrong reasons (romanced Thane in ME3 being a good example).
I just cannot get my head round why a company who are producing entertainment could possibly think that making people sad is a good thing.
I don't think they fully appreciate that games like mass effect have the potential to develop a far deeper emotional engagement than books of films ever could, and what that means in terms of their own responsibility to produce something that is enjoyable rather than being a total head***k.
sorry... wine...rum... Friday... rant
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 10:31
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Gotta run off to work, so will catch up later, but my friend had this to say:
"So, I got tired of feelin' sad,and all the badness as a result. Like, not gaming, not focusing on whole Thane thing, feeling something missing, betrayal & anger......so, I played ME with a whole new character, romanced no one and imported that character in2 ME2. I'm inna tower, tracking Nassana and behind Thane. Gotta tell U, all my excitement, feelings, etc, etc.... is back. I'm able to totally ignore and 4get the farce that is ME3. I put all ME3 stuff away and outta sight......I'm gonna finish ME2, play the DLC 2 and just let it end that way. In my mind, we are gonna be together, inna Normandy, onna planet, fixing up the ship, avoiding TIM and plotting how 2 get more Prothean intel to stop Reaper invasion while recruiting races to help. So, that's how I'm leaving it and my mood and outlook is much better, and Thane is NOT DEAD.....
I'm just saying, it's working 4 me right now.......*sigh*"
"So, I got tired of feelin' sad,and all the badness as a result. Like, not gaming, not focusing on whole Thane thing, feeling something missing, betrayal & anger......so, I played ME with a whole new character, romanced no one and imported that character in2 ME2. I'm inna tower, tracking Nassana and behind Thane. Gotta tell U, all my excitement, feelings, etc, etc.... is back. I'm able to totally ignore and 4get the farce that is ME3. I put all ME3 stuff away and outta sight......I'm gonna finish ME2, play the DLC 2 and just let it end that way. In my mind, we are gonna be together, inna Normandy, onna planet, fixing up the ship, avoiding TIM and plotting how 2 get more Prothean intel to stop Reaper invasion while recruiting races to help. So, that's how I'm leaving it and my mood and outlook is much better, and Thane is NOT DEAD.....
I'm just saying, it's working 4 me right now.......*sigh*"
#4489
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 10:57
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Lucky Thirteen wrote...
Aislinn Trista wrote...
I know it isn't much, but I made a mod that replaces Liara in the ME3 flashback scenes with Thane.
I took a nice flycam shot and color-corrected so it fits in with the other scenes.
The project and instructions can be found here:
http://social.bioware.com/project/8243/
A preview of what it looks like has been uploaded to my channel here:
It's no where near what we should have, but at least it's something.
OMG HOW I PUT THIS ON XBOX
*Cries*
The flashback was just another kick to the crotch for anyone who didn't romance Liara or a VS. I don't mind seeing Liara in there but for goodness sake make the LI the last thing shepard thinks about! That was just so lazy (considering how easy it was for others to make their own) but then they were lazy about the ME2 romances anyway
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#4490
Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:09
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mnomaha wrote...
Gotta run off to work, so will catch up later, but my friend had this to say:
"So, I got tired of feelin' sad,and all the badness as a result. Like, not gaming, not focusing on whole Thane thing, feeling something missing, betrayal & anger......so, I played ME with a whole new character, romanced no one and imported that character in2 ME2. I'm inna tower, tracking Nassana and behind Thane. Gotta tell U, all my excitement, feelings, etc, etc.... is back. I'm able to totally ignore and 4get the farce that is ME3. I put all ME3 stuff away and outta sight......I'm gonna finish ME2, play the DLC 2 and just let it end that way. In my mind, we are gonna be together, inna Normandy, onna planet, fixing up the ship, avoiding TIM and plotting how 2 get more Prothean intel to stop Reaper invasion while recruiting races to help. So, that's how I'm leaving it and my mood and outlook is much better, and Thane is NOT DEAD.....
I'm just saying, it's working 4 me right now.......*sigh*"
It is why Cameron pretends it was a hallucination, she's like that she thinks she knows more than Mordin and didn't keep her lips off Thane. Now she travels the galaxy as Pirate Queen Cameron (that was Aria but she beat her senseless in a bar fight and took her title). As for the Reapers, well she'll worry about them when they target the Normandy and not a moment before. She's done living her life for ungrateful sh*ts. Kolyat is on the ship brooding about his father and Shepard. Almost everyone left her crew except Jack, she liked piracy. Although I'm not about to tell Thane how close Jack and Kolyat are becoming. He might pitch a fit.
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:30
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*grabs flameproof armour* I think Kolyat and Jack would be pretty cool. They both have what the other needs. Jack is a totally smartass/badass that needs some innocent TLC and Kolyat needs a bit of realistic badass instead of just a cranky attitude. I think that could work.
There's also some...interesting...Thane/Jack fics out there, well at least one that I read and some others.
Must work...but it is Saturday....damn, still must work.
There's also some...interesting...Thane/Jack fics out there, well at least one that I read and some others.
Must work...but it is Saturday....damn, still must work.
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:38
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Hyrule_Gal wrote...
Lucky Thirteen wrote...
Aislinn Trista wrote...
I know it isn't much, but I made a mod that replaces Liara in the ME3 flashback scenes with Thane.
I took a nice flycam shot and color-corrected so it fits in with the other scenes.
The project and instructions can be found here:
http://social.bioware.com/project/8243/
A preview of what it looks like has been uploaded to my channel here:
It's no where near what we should have, but at least it's something.
OMG HOW I PUT THIS ON XBOX
*Cries*
The flashback was just another kick to the crotch for anyone who didn't romance Liara or a VS. I don't mind seeing Liara in there but for goodness sake make the LI the last thing shepard thinks about! That was just so lazy (considering how easy it was for others to make their own) but then they were lazy about the ME2 romances anyway
It really was.
Honeslty I don't want to see Liara at all. I don't dislike her, but unless your shepard is close to her it doesn't make much sense at all. I guess bioware thought no one would care that they couldn't see their LI. Anderson and Joker I do get though.
Thanks for the mod Aislinn.
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:42
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if I ever manage to go through the endings again, I will totally use this mod. Thank you SO much Aislinn!
And THIS is totally why I NEVER bought the BS about there being a "technical" issue that prevented the correct LI from being in the flashback. They just bloody damn well didn't do it. When a fan can fix something in a few weeks......Gah
*glomps Aislinn* THANE YOU AGAIN!
And THIS is totally why I NEVER bought the BS about there being a "technical" issue that prevented the correct LI from being in the flashback. They just bloody damn well didn't do it. When a fan can fix something in a few weeks......Gah
*glomps Aislinn* THANE YOU AGAIN!
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:46
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Posté 27 avril 2012 - 11:57
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I suspect it wasn't editing pictures in so much as getting the correct picture to trigger that was the issue there, and it didn't get pushed high up the priority list.
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Posté 28 avril 2012 - 12:16
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wildannie wrote...
I was shocked to read a comment from a BW staff member (he was not a writer ...thank ****) in a DA2 forum that stated he thought it was great that having Jacob cheat on shepard seemed to have generated feelings amongst fans that were similar to if they had been cheated on in RL
I have to confess that what they did to Thane gave me feelings similar to those I feel when things are going badly wrong in a relationship. This was not over Thane per se but rather how BW (through the treatment of Thane and Jacob) had treated their female fans... It was not a good thing. Not for me, and not for EA/Bioware because as a consequence I will not purchase any of their games unless I reaaally have to. If DA3 is released I will rent it day one, maybe buy the day one DLC and if I like it, wait until it drops in price for PC purchase. Giving BW £10 rather than £70 on day one. That's not good business.
WTF a BW staff member actually said that? How does this person not realize how sadistic and messed up that was? Even as someone who didn't romance Jacob I was disgusted by what they did. It just shows a blatant lack of respect and care for their fans. It also seems like a bad business tactic to purposely want to make your customers feel like crap.
I wonder if they think the storyline they gave Thane is good because so many people are upset?
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Posté 28 avril 2012 - 12:45
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Posté 28 avril 2012 - 12:46
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Hadeedak wrote...
I suspect it wasn't editing pictures in so much as getting the correct picture to trigger that was the issue there, and it didn't get pushed high up the priority list.
I don't see how it would be. All the game has to do is check your romance flag. You import with your romance flags intact. I think they just got lazy (or forgot), so they only did the videos for the main romances of ME3. Sad thing, is it would have been a simple matter if they hadn't totally nullified two romances and let you pursue new ones afterwards. They brought it on themselves.
Once I figured out the correct format for the .bik I needed to create, it took me like 5 minutes to put this together.
Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 28 avril 2012 - 12:48 .
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Posté 28 avril 2012 - 01:03
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Alright! Close to deadline, but here it is:
Thane-Fanbook inspired co-opped Casual outfits Project for ME2 and ME3 (demo) between Lucky Thirteen and myself.
These can be used by those not overly apt at creating zhe arts for the Fanbook (or for the lols ofc), deadline is the 30th this month.
Most of these texmods are for ME2.
For those playing on a console with a viable PC, we've included an ME3 adjusted version of the hoodie that works on the full game and the DEMO.
For those that don't own a viable PC, we're offering to make screenshots for XBOX/PS3 players this weekend if they supply us with a ME2 Headmorph/savefile OR an ME3 facecode.
Send either me or Lucky Thirteen a message over the BSN, and let us know which outfit you want your Shepard to wear (and where?) plus post us a download-link to the needed files and supply us with a possible slogan.
Aislinn made a very nice screenshot/manip with one of the available outfits, as an example:
Anywhose, let us know!
Thane-Fanbook inspired co-opped Casual outfits Project for ME2 and ME3 (demo) between Lucky Thirteen and myself.
These can be used by those not overly apt at creating zhe arts for the Fanbook (or for the lols ofc), deadline is the 30th this month.
Most of these texmods are for ME2.
For those playing on a console with a viable PC, we've included an ME3 adjusted version of the hoodie that works on the full game and the DEMO.
For those that don't own a viable PC, we're offering to make screenshots for XBOX/PS3 players this weekend if they supply us with a ME2 Headmorph/savefile OR an ME3 facecode.
Send either me or Lucky Thirteen a message over the BSN, and let us know which outfit you want your Shepard to wear (and where?) plus post us a download-link to the needed files and supply us with a possible slogan.
Aislinn made a very nice screenshot/manip with one of the available outfits, as an example:
Anywhose, let us know!
Modifié par Ottemis, 28 avril 2012 - 01:04 .
