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[CaptainCalico]

CastonFolarus wrote...

In my opinion, Thane dying without player choice is an ok thing on it's own. He was a dying man. We all knew that when we met him. That doesn't bother me. It's something that was a part of his character form the very start.

What does is that there was not nearly enough romantic discussion between them, and, as you mentioned, no opprotunities to mention the relationship again. Hell, why couldn't we talk to Kolyat later on the Citadel, where he could even ask just what his father meant to Shepard? Or why not just a flashback if you enter his old room on the Normandy? I'm not asking to put him on equal par with the Squadmate romances, as that's quite a pull on developer time. But a few more mentions here or there would be nice.

Also, along with ANY of the LIs, it should be his face Shepard flashes back to last at the end, after Joker and Anderson. Not Liara. If they provided an alternate for the VS roamnces, they should have done the same for everybody else.

This. I wish Thane could have been saved, but I'm willing to respect the story arc, but please show the relationship some respect!

[gearseffect]

I want to point something out that's been bugging me, (not sure if ya all talked about it before) but in ME3 if you don't talk to Thane and Kirrahee dies, Thane vanishes for the rest of the game. Now I'd be happy to let Kirrahee die in order to find a cure for Thane, later in the game, the fact Thane got vanished no matter what after the coup is just BS.

That's just stupid and a waste of making our choices matter, would you all let Kirrahee die to save Thane? I sure as heck would be fine with that, and Kirrahee is alive in all my games.

[wildannie]

gearseffect wrote...

I want to point something out that's been bugging me, (not sure if ya all talked about it before) but in ME3 if you don't talk to Thane and Kirrahee dies, Thane vanishes for the rest of the game. Now I'd be happy to let Kirrahee die in order to find a cure for Thane, later in the game, the fact Thane got vanished no matter what after the coup is just BS.

That's just stupid and a waste of making our choices matter, would you all let Kirrahee die to save Thane? I sure as heck would be fine with that, and Kirrahee is alive in all my games.

without any hesitation whatsoever, the only character that I wouldn't give up for Thane is Kolyat.

Edit: link to post to view that it was good how Jacobs story arc made fans feel (it is only a personal opinion of a member of BW staff, not a company view)


social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/315/index/10889328/30#11346032


This is what Alan Schumacher said...

"This is probably a good point to remind our audience that I'm not the biggest fans of romances and hence likely do not place as much investment into them HAHA. 

I would actually be okay with other romances being cut off too (whether through death or otherwise), but I understand that I'm likely unique in that regard.  In fact I probably shouldn't get into writing because I'd probably do awful, awful things (in the eyes of many fans) to romance interests just for my own amusement <.<.  Although not so much to be overtly mean, but because I think that when a game can illicit an emotional response it can be a powerful thing.  I probably would have strongly suggested Tali and Garrus end up sacrificing themselves in some capacity simply because those characters have such a sense of attachment by a lot of the fanbase.  Though I imagine the fan response would be akin to a lynch mob... 

I guess what I find interesting is that the people responded to Jacob moving on much in the same way that they would had it happened in real life.  I see it more as a good thing though, and hope the writers are at least somewhat flattered that people were invested enough that they could respond that way.  No one really cares what happens to the hated NPC.

My .02"

Modifié par wildannie, 28 avril 2012 - 08:54 .

[RShara]

gearseffect wrote...

I want to point something out that's been bugging me, (not sure if ya all talked about it before) but in ME3 if you don't talk to Thane and Kirrahee dies, Thane vanishes for the rest of the game. Now I'd be happy to let Kirrahee die in order to find a cure for Thane, later in the game, the fact Thane got vanished no matter what after the coup is just BS.

That's just stupid and a waste of making our choices matter, would you all let Kirrahee die to save Thane? I sure as heck would be fine with that, and Kirrahee is alive in all my games.

Thane dies offscreen.  His name just appears on the memorial wall and no one ever mentions him again.

[utaker1988]

RShara wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

I want to point something out that's been bugging me, (not sure if ya all talked about it before) but in ME3 if you don't talk to Thane and Kirrahee dies, Thane vanishes for the rest of the game. Now I'd be happy to let Kirrahee die in order to find a cure for Thane, later in the game, the fact Thane got vanished no matter what after the coup is just BS.

That's just stupid and a waste of making our choices matter, would you all let Kirrahee die to save Thane? I sure as heck would be fine with that, and Kirrahee is alive in all my games.

Thane dies offscreen.  His name just appears on the memorial wall and no one ever mentions him again.

I love Kirrahe, so much so that I was very upset with ME1 that I could not keep him and leave both Ashley and Kaidan behind.  With that being said, yes I would choose Thane over Kirrahe...every darn time.   As I've said a million times over there is but one person who I would never trade Thane's life for...Kolyat.  Imagine if someone did that?  Chose Thane over Kolyat?  Who could do that even to see  how it plays out?  I couldn't.  I would HATE the person who ever chose my life over any of my children's lives forever.  I could never look at them again much let find it in me to love them again.  

Imagine though if you had a heartless, selfish Shep.  Even my Malificent wouldn't do it..wait, if she thought Thane would never find out, she'd seriously pause and think about it.  But in the end, even her frozen heart couldn't do that to the one thing she values more than herself.  To me that is a hero's death, choosing your life above your child's.  Not running all gung ho unto the blade of TroLeng.

[blueshepard]

Hello guys,

first of all: thanks to all of you who contributed - YOU ARE AMAZING! We are in fact slowly going to the end now, last time I counted pages we had about 200 of them only filled with contributions - my guess is that we really could get to the incredible 250 pages with only contributions until the deadline. Intro, Credits, FemShep pages and supporters pages not counted in. It is in fact unbelievabel for me, so THANK YOU AGAIN! Be prepared for more Thane Love in the future, since I really have already something new in mind which will be "released" after the Fanbook WE WILL HOLD THE DRELL HERE!

If you haven't contributed until now:

MAKE SURE TO CONTACT ME IN PERSON!!!! I will ONLY use contributions if the people drop a personal message to me:
E-Mail: thane-fanbook@gmx.de
BSN: yamainu1984 (write a PM)
DA: raira1984 (write a note)

ALL people who are getting into the book have already seen their own pages - IF YOU DIDN'T GET A MESSAGE FROM ME UNTIL NOW YOU WILL NOT BE IN!!! Please come back to me immediately then.

For your Cover Page we would need the following information from you (any information is voluntary but I need at least a name I could credit ):

Your real name (if you're comfortable using it)
Your BSN and DA IDs
Your Nationality
Your Shepard's name
A cover page dedication. You should know what I mean by now, but in case you don't, here's a link to mythlover's UNPROOFREAD cover page: link
The Artwork Title
The Artwork Medium for artwork (again, be specific. I don't know how many time's I've told you all that!) ie. acrylic on canvas, charcoal on card, watercolour on aquelle paper, digital painting, photomanipulation, etc, etc, etc
The Genre for fanfiction (should be self explanatory, but in any case, eg. romance, crime, sci fi, fantasy, general fiction, historical drama, etc, etc, etc)

If you want to be mentioned in the supporters page at the end of the book (you can jump in here even if you haven't contributed anything else to the book) drop your information in the following thread:
Supporters
or drop the following information:

E.g:
BSN: yamainu1984
DA: raira1984
Name: Daniela
Blue Shepard, Paragon, LI Thane

to thane-fanbook@gmx.de

We have also a project up where I gather screenshots of you Femshep and Malesheps (Sihas and brothers/sisters in arms), look here:

link
link
link
link

If you want to be part in here send a SCREENSHOT AND THE PRENAME OF YOUR SHEP to the follwing mail adress:

thane-fanbook@gmx.de
or post it in here:
Femsheps/Malesheps

DEADLINE FOR ALL CONTRIBUTIONS (also the supporters and Femshep/Maleshep screenis) IS APRIL 30TH!

I am looking foward to some more contributions and thank all of you for your great support!

United sihas are just the love!

Greetings

Dani

[coldwetn0se]

@mnomaha - As for your friend starting a new play through in ME1, to take to ME2, and end there (with a bit of fanfic'ing for the end)....That is exactly what I am doing!!!! That (and RL; boo) is what has been keeping me slightly MIA.

I just finished Evan in ME1, and got her in to ME2.....which BTW; she imported BEAUTIFULLY! She looks perfect (*grumble, me3 importer, grumble*) Evan was actually originally started in ME2, and was dumped to make room for more Shepards. When I did finally get ME1, she was the first fem!Shep I recreated to do a full run through ME1, ME2 and (was supposed to) go into ME3. She was half way through ME1 (yes, I am one of those idiots who plays multiple characters at the same time- so I was running her, a male!Shep in ME1, and finishing up two Shep's in ME2) when me3 came out........so I just NOW got back to her and finished (in ME1).

I also started a brand new fem!Shep in ME1. Chase Shepard, Earthborn/Sole Survivor, Infiltrator....she is (hopefully) going to be my first true Renegon. I tried to play true Renegade....only lasted for a couple missions, and I just couldn't do it. In fact, I usually end up as Paragade. So, I figured I could try doing a Renegon play through......I think I might really like her. I'll put some pics up, when I get a chance.
OH, and it goes without saying.......she will be a Thane ONLY romance. Only Evan has gone from Kaidan to Thane....and she will be the only one to do so.....such a creature of habit <lopsided smirk>.

[Ottemis]

Check out this post last page, for the Thane Fanbook inspired texmod outfits for femshep.
For those of us that want to contribute and are into modding, but not so much drawing or writing (or just lack the time to).

Example shots:

Modifié par Ottemis, 28 avril 2012 - 06:56 .

[coldwetn0se]

Ottemis wrote...

Check out this post last page, for the Thane Fanbook inspired texmod outfits for femshep.
For those of us that want to contribute and are into modding, but not so much drawing or writing (or just lack the time to).

Example shot:

I LOVE this!  So well done.....want that mod (and don't worry, saw all your posts on what to do for it.....just don't have the time, or usable USB right now.)  Ok, being a bit silly, but it reminds of an episode of NOVA with Carl Sagan standing in front of "the Universe".  I'm not sure Carl ever looked quite that good.......(I swear; not hating on Carl at all, but that is a very nice looking Shep....<sheepish grin>)

[Ottemis]

Well, if you trust me with it, just toss me a facecode instead over PM, they take longer, but I'm not getting alot of help-requests (just finished the first really) so I don't mind the extra work so much atm.
Would be a shame to miss out on this I think, to contribute that is, looks like it's turning out great, numberswise and how it's going to look etc =)

Modifié par Ottemis, 28 avril 2012 - 07:11 .

[stysiaq]

^^^^
Awesome looking Shepard, and that shirt is brilliant. Green color + pentagon - you don't need anything else, really.

[mnomaha]

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

[mnomaha]

Wow! Does the download just get thrown in the cookedpc folder?

Modifié par mnomaha, 28 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

It is so silly that people feel the need to say such things, when they could "....just move along, folks."  Just because we may "wish" for a different storyline, doesn't mean we will get it.  And I would guess most of us understand this.
But as you stated, Shell, if a thread is titled as such, and you DON'T feel the same, just don't post.  No need to waste your time or ours.  Unless, making people feel bad is a turn on for them.....

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 28 avril 2012 - 11:05 .

[gearseffect]

utaker1988 wrote...

RShara wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

I want to point something out that's been bugging me, (not sure if ya all talked about it before) but in ME3 if you don't talk to Thane and Kirrahee dies, Thane vanishes for the rest of the game. Now I'd be happy to let Kirrahee die in order to find a cure for Thane, later in the game, the fact Thane got vanished no matter what after the coup is just BS.

That's just stupid and a waste of making our choices matter, would you all let Kirrahee die to save Thane? I sure as heck would be fine with that, and Kirrahee is alive in all my games.

Thane dies offscreen.  His name just appears on the memorial wall and no one ever mentions him again.

I love Kirrahe, so much so that I was very upset with ME1 that I could not keep him and leave both Ashley and Kaidan behind.  With that being said, yes I would choose Thane over Kirrahe...every darn time.   As I've said a million times over there is but one person who I would never trade Thane's life for...Kolyat.  Imagine if someone did that?  Chose Thane over Kolyat?  Who could do that even to see  how it plays out?  I couldn't.  I would HATE the person who ever chose my life over any of my children's lives forever.  I could never look at them again much let find it in me to love them again.  

Imagine though if you had a heartless, selfish Shep.  Even my Malificent wouldn't do it..wait, if she thought Thane would never find out, she'd seriously pause and think about it.  But in the end, even her frozen heart couldn't do that to the one thing she values more than herself.  To me that is a hero's death, choosing your life above your child's.  Not running all gung ho unto the blade of TroLeng.

WTF? Thane dies off screne anyway? And you never know about it his name just goes on the Wall? What was BW doing Acid when they made this game? That's some messed up sh!t right there.

I wouldn't go so far as to say there is only One character I'd let die in order to save Thane, but then again I'm a dude all my Shep's are dudes. But there are a great many characters I'd rather have die than Thane.


In I'd let these characters die before Thane, higher ya go the harder it would be for me to let them die
1.Liara (Hell I'd be happy if I could let her die in ME3 because I'm sick of her)
2.Kasumi
3.EDI
4.Javik
5.Mordin
6.Legion
7.Zaeed
8.Jacob
9.Miranda
10.Tali
11.Vega
12.Ahsley
13.Grunt


I'd likely even let Garrus die ......that choict would be the hardest choice both of them are my best bros, god making that choice would kill me..... but in the end I'd chose to save Thane

I could never let Samara, Jack, or Wrex, die for Thane.

[wildannie]

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

I think that that kind of post comes from some peoples need to be sycophantic to the developers, and I cannot understand it myself.  It is obvious to anyone who's paying attention to the romance that Thane's apprearance is a f**king insult but some seem to feel the need to submit to the ideas presented without question.  Maybe they're  young, maybe they're just stupid... maybe I'm stupid for thinking they're young or stupid ... ahhhh ... I've gone and confused myself...

@gearseffect ... I wish they'd been doing acid when they wrote ME3, it might have been more compassionate, and  less focused on the dollar.

Modifié par wildannie, 28 avril 2012 - 11:48 .

[utaker1988]

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

Shoving a hot poker into our hearts and giving us the one finger salute in regards to Thane's romance and tossing hints in our faces about a cure is a "very unfair course of action."  I respect their wishes as well, just like they can respect my wish to not like the piece of crap they whipped out called Mass Effect 3.  Their story is not concluded or they would not have shoved a gross pop up in my face to continue Shepard's legend via DLC at the end of that game.

And...here Faith, lemme guide you past that nasty tank krogan.....

[Lucky Thirteen]

stysiaq wrote...

*snip*

^^^^
Awesome looking Shepard, and that shirt is brilliant. Green color + pentagon - you don't need anything else, really.

Thanks!! Was the first mod I attempted for Mass Effect. After attempting to put Thane's face on the shirt, I thought it would be better off just simple and could still mean a lot.

The pentagon will forever be the ultimate symbol for Thane to me. Even though Feron and Kolyat both have it, whatever. Green stuff matters.

[gearseffect]

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

I think that that kind of post comes from some peoples need to be sycophantic to the developers, and I cannot understand it myself.  It is obvious to anyone who's paying attention to the romance that Thane's apprearance is a f**king insult but some seem to feel the need to submit to the ideas presented without question.  Maybe they're  young, maybe they're just stupid... maybe I'm stupid for thinking they're young or stupid ... ahhhh ... I've gone and confused myself...

@gearseffect ... I wish they'd been doing acid when they wrote ME3, it might have been more compassionate, and  less focused on the dollar.

So I'm not the only one who gets all whacky thinking about some people accepting the steaming pile, as being stupid, young, or just always accept anything they're given. I also sometimes wonder if those people are some of the deluded American Land of Freedom and Equel Opertunity. Which is just a empty meaningless solgan. But that's besides the point.

In ME2 Thane told us he was dying and BW also gave all players some hope that things were not as grim as Thane made it seem. Heck I got like 2 emails about Curing Keprals, one of them was like "Have Faith and it will happen" and Something else like "Hanor Cure for Keprals coming along faster than thought"

Or some such things like that. I can only image how painful it is for all you ladies who had Thane as your LI, you got way more stuff thrown your way about curing Keprels than anyone else. Yeah BW you broke your fans hearts in so many ways.

Also I really don't care that I'm a dude,Tand I'm in the Protesting the Poor treatment of Thane Romance.
Because I'm here protesting the Poor Treatment of my good Buddy Thane in ME3.

Since ME3 I'd be happy if I never see any new Liara content again (unless it lets me kill her), I feelt she was constently shoved down my throat in ME3, and yeah it burned her Character for me.
I really wish that the EC gives us flashbacks for all the LI's, even if you don't ever get a chance to do the dead and carry on the romance (Samara? Thane in ME3? Jacob?)

I aslo remeber there was a romur back in the day about a misson in ME3 on the Hanar homeworld where you met with Thane and visted a Hanar base and discoved a cure for Keprels. I remember than rumor verry well.

[warlock22]

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

Sorry "their" story?? Casey Hudson has always made it clear that Mass Effect is about "your" story not "a" story.

[JECW]

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* okay, maybe I'm just being petty, but...when you make a group about curing Thane...how could you say "Petitioning for a change is a very unfair course of action, so I cannot support any changes in this story. This is how Bioware wants to conclude their story, and I respect their wishes."

I honestly don't get it.

When did this happen?
Someone made a thread about curing Thane, but they  think petitioning is unfair. Unfair to who?
I don't undersantd why someone would say something like that.  It is in no way unfair.  Does this person even realize how completely ridiculous that kind of statement sounds. If you are fine with the way things are then why make a thread about a cure.

[mnomaha]

Um, it wasn't just a thread, it was an actual group. How sad is that? I don't want to flame this person, but seriously? Make a Cure Thane *group* and then say that?

@Lucky...my post was vague and got lost...for the green shirt/hoodie mod...do I just drop it in the CookedPC folder?

[Ottemis]

mnomaha wrote...

@Lucky...my post was vague and got lost...for the green shirt/hoodie mod...do I just drop it in the CookedPC folder?

No you load it up with texmod (that page holds instructions aswell). Download the mod's zip to a handy location for you, then unzip it.

You open texmod and click package mode.

1 ) Up top you select ..\\Mass Effect™ 2\\Binaries\\MassEffect2.exe
2 ) Package wise, you select the HOODIEGREENT.tpf file.
Hit run.

Ingame the green hoodie now actively overwrites the original, this only works aslong as you run the mod with texmod.
Texmod replaces textures loaded up in memory-cache with a different texture you feed it in TPF.

Modifié par Ottemis, 29 avril 2012 - 12:30 .

[JECW]

mnomaha wrote...

Um, it wasn't just a thread, it was an actual group. How sad is that? I don't want to flame this person, but seriously? Make a Cure Thane *group* and then say that?

@Lucky...my post was vague and got lost...for the green shirt/hoodie mod...do I just drop it in the CookedPC folder?

An actual group. Isn't there already a cure Thane group?
I guess the person forgot about that one. That is really sad.

[gmboy902]

Agree on most counts except the curability part. I'd hate to have a Mass Effect 3 in which you can be confident that all of your romances can be continued if you make the right decisions. I think that it was healthy to have a potential LI killed off. It makes each relationship different.