wildannie wrote...
Lucky Thirteen wrote...
This is one of those days I feel very apathetic about it all. I feel like its all so pointless because they don't care and aren't going to do anything about it. If he was considered an important character at all, this would have never happened. I don't feel like this is just time restraints or lack of resources type issue, I feel like they just thought very little about him from the start and put all their effort into working up a good death scene. Anything else with him never crossed their minds. I don't feel like he even had a designated writer, I feel like the writers as a group worked out what was going to happen to him early on and moved on to the rest of the story quickly.
I feel like they'll just ignore us because they don't want to deal with it. They put in stuff to fix Thane, put in more scenes for him, fix the romance stuff, have people actually recognize him after he dies. Then Grunt fans will get upset that there isn't more going on with him.
Then the Samara fans get all up in arms because she's not a romance and they want her as a romance. Then the Tali fans rage over the stupid photoshop picture some more. It would be this endless cycle of Fan rage that is just tiring as hell.
I feel like what I want, not just for Thane but a lot of the ME2 characters and the overall story and Shepards behavior, Bioware can't and won't do.
They screwed up ME3 as a whole.
You're probably right but I'm not prepared to give up just yet... but like many here my general apathy over ME grows by the day. I was really quite upset/depressed when I saw what they had done and that feeling has left me, but my interpretation of the message ME3 sent has not changed. They showed me that they didn't really care about significant portions of their fanbase, and that they cannot be trusted to deliver on emotional investment. I don't invest emotion for it to be stamped on.
I don't know whose fault the mess of ME3 was but they have done Bioware a massive disservice I don't consider myself a fan of Bioware anymore... how could I be after what they did.
I tend to feel the same way, but like WIldannie said, I'm not going to give up. And yes you are right if BW fixes Thane puts in more scenes and stuff I would be upset even more and BE P!SSED that BW continued to write of Samara fans, despite telling us many times that we would get continuation to the near kiss scene and a chance to develop that romance, and it would have just as much closure as any of the other romances.
But I won't give up fighting a clawing I will go down kicking and screaming and being loud and biting and clawing,
Because I have invested more hours and time and energy and emotion in ME to just get this half @ssed attempt by BW.
I can't remeber who said it otherwised I'd mention you by name, but I think all of us wanted to have our LI their beside us fighting in the game, after all that one character is sort of our driving force, our rock, and the main thing that keeps us emotionally invested and tied into the series and game. Our Shepards reason to live, reason to fight, and reason to win.
I also think that BW got lazy with ME3, I mean why else would they make promisses like the ones I mentioned above about Samara, and they made just as many about Thane I'm sure too right? They made many of the same types of promisses to all the different fans and LI's because they are not dumb they know what that one character means to the fans and makes all the difference in their ME STORY.
So I think BW just got lazy, it wasn't an issue of time, because I would have been happy to wait until holiday 2013 for ME3, I'd rather wait for something of quaitly than some half @ssed rushed product that turned out a total mess.
It wasn't a budget issue. Because if it was they had some messed up priorities, Multiplayer, Live Action Trailers for both DudeShep and FemShep (which I whole heartedly support BW marketing to Female fans, and giving them as much attention as dudes. It was long over due), Action Mode, All those stupid Twitter exclusive videos, more live action trailers with News Dudes reporting on the Reaper invasion of Earth, and all the other money that they put into their HUGE Marketing and Advertising campaigns. They wasted a sh!t ton of money and resources on all this stuff that could have been put into making ME3 the best game and the game they promissed us.
Also I know BW could have made this game live up to all fans expections, they could have made it all happen, don't give me that impossible stuff, Because BW could have made it all happen if they wanted too. So some character can die in ME2 and/or ME2 big deal make the game as if that character is alive, and then make some adjestments to the game and cut out content if that character is dead. Look they got Garrus and Tali back full time no problem, they got Dr Chuckwas back no problem,
In fact the LI's would have been some fo the easiest characters to tie into the squad as many of them didn't have these huge ties to major subplots like Wrex and Mordin, only LI's that had ties to subplots that could prevent that character from joinin your squad due to it are Tali and Miranda, Tali being the Quarian/Geth deal, and Miranda being her dad (which I was even let down by, and I'm not a fan of Miranda).
Just look at how much effort was put into Kaidan and then compair it to the effort put into Ashley, it's like night and day from what I've heard, Ashley got totally sh!t on well Kaidan got a great deal of effort and content.
In fact BW could have totally made all LI's into possible squad mates, the play just might have to turn some other squad mates into war assets, (hell I'd love to throw Liara off the ship at this point and turn her into a war asset).
There was nothing preventing BW from doing more with Thane, and bringing back all LI's Samara, Jacob, Jack, Kelly, Thane, all had been reduced to little more than a came. And there was no effort put into making tapealing to the LI fanbases of Thane, Samara, Jacob, and Kelly. NONE.
No It wasn't a budget issue, it wasn't a time issue, it wasn't an issue of well said character could die in the SM of ME2, or said character could die at some point in ME1 or ME2, no it was an issue of lazyness and all the while this lazyness was going BW continued to reassure the variaus LI fanbases that you would be satisfied with ME3 trust them they are making this game the best game, and it will satisfy all of the ME fans.
BS and lazyness what I want to know is HOW in the Hell, can some in their right mind continue to talk out their @ss and make these statements and promisses knowing full well that it's all BS and Lies and not see that it would blow up in their faces? How can someone not possiblely see that this would p!ss of so many fans, how could one not see that they were gonna have a big sh!tstorm of angery fans who they lied to?
I really could care a less about the lame ending because for me the main draw of ME has always been the characters and my unique relationships with each one, but by dying me any chance of contiuing and developing those relationships in ME3 well the end was just like throwing salt in an open wound.
The end for me is rather open and left for interpratation it's left in a way that lets us come up with our own ideas on what happens after word and therefore BW don't have to spend all the extra effort to give each fanbase their own unique happy ending.
I would totally be able to take and accept the endings so much better if BW had put forth an effort to apease me and gave me a chance to further develop my Sheps relationship with Samara, and actually put forth an effort in the ME2 LI cast. Because Thane was my best buddy ,my bro, not Garrus, Garrus was just there in ME1 and ME2 but Thane he was cool and had a unique story and personilty that intrigued me and drew me to him.
BW just got lazy and lied to a sh!t ton of fans, knowing full well that those characters are the main draw for many of us, and yet they continued to talk out their @ss and throw money on MP and all sorts of other cr@p that fans could give a Sh!t less about.
Sorry for that long draw out rant and if you managed to read it all and it makes sense to ya well than Thank you, and if you totally agree with me on much of this well than THANK YOU again because that means I'm not the only one who feels this way and sees things this way.
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