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[Ottemis]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

It is difficult. All things worth keeping are. As I said, I'm not giving up till they flat out say 'no'.

Hoop doet leven. "Hope springs eternal".


ToP, have some Thane.

Modifié par Ottemis, 30 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[mnomaha]

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

@Gears....marry me?

@Wildannie...I'm not embarrassed for them at all. They brought this upon themselves. They deserve every bit of negative...everything...that has come about.

Honestly...I doubt I will ever buy another bioware game again. I just don't see it happening. I'll just keep playing DA:O. At least there's replayability with that, especially with all the mods available.

...well I'm not *actually* embarassed for them, but they should be embarassed , if I'd a hand in the mess that is ME3 I'd not only be embarassed, I'd be ashamed.  

Yeah, I'm an accounts adminstrator. If I handed in **** like this...I would be unemployed. Hell, I would fire myself.

[Bronagh]

Since i finished my playthrough of ME3 i've had this nagging little voice in the back of my head.
I can relate when it comes to developers because that's what i do as a real life job albeit on a much smaller scale.
Over the years I've dealth with deadlines and top dogs who don't understand or think very onesidedly about their bottom line and what they believe will make them money. These people very often cannot see beyond their own vision and simply won't listen. Also very often they are not gamers themselves and just ...don't...get it.
I know how immensely frustrating and infuriating it can be to not get enough time to do things the *right* way.

Now that little voice keeps whispering to me...what if Bioware requested more time and were denied? What if the way things turned out with a lot of ME3 is BW's way of showing EA what happens when you disappoint many many fans in a huge way? *Ok so we can't get the time and resources to make the game the way it should be, so we do it this way, ****** off as many people as possible and sit back and watch the mayhem.*

It's obvious that they would never be able to admit it, and i may be full of wishful thinking, it just seems to me that it is something i can see a team of developers doing to get their top bosses to see reason. Afterall, they made ME1 and 2, I still believe they know full well what their fans are passionate about and what makes for a good game. And with enough fan outrage they could be granted more time and resources to do things better. It would make sense to me that this could be a reason why the people who handed over the book at PAX were told to tell us to keep making noise because the fan feedback directly affects which DLC's will be made. (loosely quoted)

Also i don't *want* to believe they thought this was a good thing. Not the company who gave us DA:O, ME1 and ME2 .

Anyway I'm rambling, it's something that's been bugging me for a good while now so i just wanted to put it out here.
Maybe I'm just in denial.

[LucyMaire]

Hi guys, it's been a while. I just wanted to say that my daddio's playing ME3 right now, and whenever I go to visit and he plays it I just get this *disgusted* feeling that I can't really explain.
In the beginning of ME3, I thought it was going to be a great game. I was really enjoying it. But then, Thane happened...and the ending.
Now I can't even look at the game without being repulsed. I just feel like Bioware only cared about getting more people to buy the game. That's all that mattered. They worked so hard to make it visually appealing (even though there were several odd graphics glitches) and get all of this advertisement out for it and focus on the combat and the multiplayer, and as a result the story is less than satisfactory. It's...appalling. I, as a loyal fan of Mass Effect and Bioware, feel betrayed. It just makes me wonder whether I should have played the trilogy at all. Is it better to play something and adore every minute of it but then be utterly disappointed by the last installment, or to not have experienced it at all?
Also, my dad called me to tell me that he thought Thane's death was awful. He said it was stupid that Shepard or the squaddies didn't help him and that he was just left there. bleeding. He was so annoyed by the fact that no one mentioned Thane afterwards. And that Kai Leng is a ridiculous and pointless character. He was literally raging about all of the stuff that we've been saying for months, and that other people have been arguing with us about. Finally, someone that didn't romance Thane realizes how terrible it was! My dad is awesome

[wildannie]

@LucyMaire I love hearing about those who didn't romance Thane supporting our point of view, your Dad is awesome!

@Bronagh That little voice has whispered to me too... I'm sure it's just wishful thinking but looking at the mess that is ME3 it is hard to imagine that they could have thought the fans would enjoy it... I just don't get it.

It is definitely preferable to imagine that they let this carnage happen knowingly than actually thought it was a good and fitting end to the trilogy though.

If a whole load of them leave BW and set up a Kickstarter project... that would lend weight to the idea.

[utaker1988]

Other than the Thane LI issue and the ending, I've always had these questions in my head, "Who EXACTLY thought this game, as it stands now, was good? Who looked at this in it's finished state and thought it was good to go? Who are the ones who sat by knowing it wasn't going to fly and smiled anyway with false words of praise?" I NEED to know this, it nags at my inner psyche everyday. Maybe one day it won't nag at me but I doubt it. Thirty years later and I still cannot grasp why Popeye even wanted Olive Oyl because all she is a hussy who kept purposely playing Bluto against him. "Oh you're strong now Popeye, NOW I want you but turn into wimp and I'll be rubbing Bluto under yer nose." Pah, I don't like her. LOL. I would have told her to hit the bricks with a can of spinach shoved up her arse. But anyway, I doubt I'll get the answers I seek and it will always be in the back of my mind because a part of me cannot believe someone would do this to ME3 on purpose. Could they?

Modifié par utaker1988, 30 avril 2012 - 10:03 .

[gearseffect]

mnomaha wrote...

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

@Gears....marry me?

@Wildannie...I'm not embarrassed for them at all. They brought this upon themselves. They deserve every bit of negative...everything...that has come about.

Honestly...I doubt I will ever buy another bioware game again. I just don't see it happening. I'll just keep playing DA:O. At least there's replayability with that, especially with all the mods available.

...well I'm not *actually* embarassed for them, but they should be embarassed , if I'd a hand in the mess that is ME3 I'd not only be embarassed, I'd be ashamed.  

Yeah, I'm an accounts adminstrator. If I handed in **** like this...I would be unemployed. Hell, I would fire myself.

@Mnomaha LOL that comment made my day. How ever I gotta decline though. I'm perfectly
happy being single at this point and I hardly think a few comments back
and forth online can build a healthy mirage LOL. 

@WildAnnie  I take great pride in anything I do, be it work work account/book keeping, hobbies fanfic, writing lyrics, or just anything I give it my all and tend to be a prefectionist. So I can say that had I been an employee working on ME1 ME2, and then ME3 I'd have made some verry different choices. Consiqunces be damned. I wouldn't sit by and be like "Umm yeah let me go with the flow here this game is gonna be good, all is going fine by lying out our @ss fans will be cool with this"

No I'd be like Damn the consiquences if EA or who ever wants to do this. Wants to destory what was great, and I can't do anything to stop it myself,  I'm can at least do something to maybe change things, I'm gonna raise a stink and throw it all out there for the fans to rip it apart. Because maybe an outrage of fans will change things, and I'll make dang sure that my name is known so the fans know the name behind it has weight in the series.

Damn the consiquences haha. Wonder if that's maybe what was going through the heads of the people who leaked all that info leading up to the release of ME3?



@LucyMaire I'm a dude I didn't romance Thane, (I don't go that way) but I'm in here ****ing about how he was treated, just saying ya know.

[gearseffect]

utaker1988 wrote...

Other than the Thane LI issue and the ending, I've always had these questions in my head, "Who EXACTLY thought this game, as it stands now, was good? Who looked at this in it's finished state and thought it was good to go? Who are the ones who sat by knowing it wasn't going to fly and smiled anyway with false words of praise?" I NEED to know this, it nags at my inner psyche everyday. Maybe one day it won't nag at me but I doubt it. Thirty years later and I still cannot grasp why Popeye even wanted Olive Oyl because all she is a hussy who kept purposely playing Bluto against him. "Oh you're strong now Popeye, NOW I want you but turn into wimp and I'll be rubbing Bluto under yer nose." Pah, I don't like her. LOL. I would have told her to hit the bricks with a can of spinach shoved up her arse. But anyway, I doubt I'll get the answers I seek and it will always be in the back of my mind because a part of me cannot believe someone would do this to ME3 on purpose. Could they?

I'd like to know this too. I don't know who thought it would be a good idea to let this pass as the finished product, maybe someone someday soon hopefully will do a tell all for the fans to know how in the hell this happened,

[mnomaha]

I've always wondered how (if) it passed a quality assurance test. How did those graphics get through QA? You remember when you first meet Miri at the Citadel? Watch her closely as she walks down the hallway. She looks like a stick gorilla when she walks. They all do.

I also wonder if they thought this was an awesome game as is. Because we all know the truth. Then again, there was supposed to be magical button pushing in DA2 and I never figured that out either.

[RShara]

Now I want to start a rumor that if you push the right button at the right time in ME3 you get a different ending/Thane lives

[Thrazesul]

ME3 in general has had a very bad effect on my interest in games and movies at the moment. I can't work up the strength to be excited about anything new media wise. As... "emo" as it sounds ME3 and Bioware has shattered my impression of games and hell, that female gamers actually started to get treated well.

My friends are extremly annoyed with me for not mustering up anything else but "Eh... I'll wait and see what the reviews say" attitude...

2 years of being excited for ME3 and it was just popped like a balloon. I suppose it'll take awhile to recover from that, no matter how much most of my RL friends won't understand it. That kind of disappointment leaves a mark.

Bioware *cannot* avoid seeing the flaws with ME3 and how they treated Thane and Jacob and female gamers in general. It just... saddens me so much these days...

And with what happened to Thane, it's really difficult to not get angry at bioware's favorite NPCS and how well they get treated. -.- Luckily, not going down to that level yet.

[Ottemis]

Nerana wrote...
As... "emo" as it sounds ME3 and Bioware has shattered my impression of games and hell, that female gamers actually started to get treated well.

Ahh when the road gets rough, we get rougher

[mnomaha]

RShara wrote...

Now I want to start a rumor that if you push the right button at the right time in ME3 you get a different ending/Thane lives

I totally support this concept! It certainly would stir sh!t up a bit!

[mnomaha]

@Gears...Sadly...I have to agree. I love being single myself and there's nothing I can't do better alone.

[gearseffect]

Nerana wrote...

ME3 in general has had a very bad effect on my interest in games and movies at the moment. I can't work up the strength to be excited about anything new media wise. As... "emo" as it sounds ME3 and Bioware has shattered my impression of games and hell, that female gamers actually started to get treated well.

My friends are extremly annoyed with me for not mustering up anything else but "Eh... I'll wait and see what the reviews say" attitude...

2 years of being excited for ME3 and it was just popped like a balloon. I suppose it'll take awhile to recover from that, no matter how much most of my RL friends won't understand it. That kind of disappointment leaves a mark.

Bioware *cannot* avoid seeing the flaws with ME3 and how they treated Thane and Jacob and female gamers in general. It just... saddens me so much these days...

And with what happened to Thane, it's really difficult to not get angry at bioware's favorite NPCS and how well they get treated. -.- Luckily, not going down to that level yet.

I feel most your pain here. Totally understand how you've been broken by ME3. With the price of games being so high I've been extremly picking on what games I buy, and it has to be something I will get countless hours of enjoyment out of.

With ME3 I was so excited and looking forward to it, when it came out and I played it it just left me feeling empty like someone had just ripped out part of my heart and sould and lit it on fire. A part of me died with how ME3 turned out.

I remeber saying to one of my good friends in Nov. of 2011 "Ya know ME3 is gonna be so kick@ss, with everything that the fans will get for all the hard work put in the other 2 games, it's gonna make the ME3 series stand in a league of it's own. It will set the bar for story telling, and it's gonna be so kick @ss. I'm almost willing to bet that it won't get any Game of the Year awards, because those stupid awards always go to something that don't deserve it"

Oh cr@p I jinxed it when I said that didn't I? Because it looks like the critics are all planing it to be "Game of the Year" and it's so undeserving WTF did I do?

Anyway yeah a part of died with ME3. I can't help but start to brake down at certain things, It's like no WHY? Thankfully I'm not alone I have these boards full of good people who share my pain.

TO help us in are pitty part some good ol' lyrics


Oh, I'm sitting down thinking about losing my mind

Cause I keep telling myself I'm only one of a kind

My life is broke because my dreams were shattered

For so very long nothing else mattered



I'm hearing Cries in the Night

I can't wait another day

No, no, no, tell me no lies

I'm standing cold in the light

I lose the dream and I go crazy

I'm hearing Cries in the Night

Oh and I may not be a chick but I get what your saying about female gamers, I find it's true in most cases chicks have to work 50 times hard to get the recogizsion that a dude does, and gerelly they work way harder than most dudes and still don't seem to get noticed for their hard work and dedacation.

Oh and I've sort of already hit the low of being sick of other fan bases and their 'Ooh I got it so bad I didn't get any thing in ME3" or "Oh I want more content I didn't get enough"

I'm looking at Liara, Miranda, Tali,

Oh yeah I've hit that petty level of despise those characters, and when their fans cry about having it bad I get a bit sick

then in the back ground ya  some queiter fan bases Jack, Ashley, Kelly, Kaidan, and Garrus

Then down at the very bottom of ya got the fan bases that got the biggest knife in the gut with their LI's Thane, Jacob, and Samara,

I totally feel like I got throw to the wolves given that Samara was the only LI for my Shep. I wasn't expecting much but I sure as hell didn't expect to not even get a sigle mention or acknowlement of the near kiss scene and their feelings.

I almost feel that It would have been better off had BW just left Thane, Samara, and Jacob out of ME3. Because those lame cameos they got seem like it was done just so BW could say "look they're in there we didn't forget about 'em" were a giant slap in the face to those fans.

Oh and Don't even get me started on the too little to late effort by BW with Steve and Kaidan, and Samantha, and pulling what they did with Vega for Femsheps.


Ya know what this is not the first time it's dawned on me that I find myself hanging with the underdogs, the misfits, outcasts, and low people on the totam pole peacking oder. I'm not just talking about it being on the boards either, I tend to do that in RL too.

[Twilight_Princess]

Nerana wrote...

ME3 in general has had a very bad effect on my interest in games and movies at the moment. I can't work up the strength to be excited about anything new media wise. As... "emo" as it sounds ME3 and Bioware has shattered my impression of games and hell, that female gamers actually started to get treated well.

2 years of being excited for ME3 and it was just popped like a balloon. I suppose it'll take awhile to recover from that, no matter how much most of my RL friends won't understand it. That kind of disappointment leaves a mark.

 
You've summed up exactly how I've been feeling the last few weeks. It's like the game has continued to stalk me even though I've barely touched it for nearly a month now. I'll play skyrim but I'll just sigh and not really get into it like I used to because in the back of my mind, I am always aware of how badly ME3 disappointed me. You don't just "get over" something you got excited about and constantly thought about for 2 years of your life. What's more annoying is that it’s something I can't talk about to others in RL because no one I know is a mass effect fan.

I used to praise bioware as the perfect example on how to treat the female demographic. The creation of femshep restored what little faith I had, that gaming companies COULD give a damn about me and acknowledge that I existed. That they could create a female protagonist that I would feel proud to play as. It was the first time (besides playing dragon age) that I felt so invested playing a female  character.

I never felt punished for being a female in the mass effect universe...until ME3.I used to feel equal but now because I play as a femshep, I don't deserve to have as many love interests as a male shepard and I don't deserve to have my subplots continued. Apparently I deserve to have my love interests die and dump me because my choices aren't important anymore.


I don't know about you ladies, but that was a bigger smack in the face then the ending for me. The bad ending happened to ALL of our shepards, renegade,paragon, male or female. it was a universal disappointment that at the very least got enough people angry enough make bioware change it (or alter it). ....but our LI treatment happened because we are the minority and bioware didn’t think us being upset would matter. Sadly, our outcry won't be as mighty or have the same amount of support. Knowing this sad fact is what depresses me most.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 01 mai 2012 - 12:27 .

[utaker1988]

gearseffect wrote...


Ya know what this is not the first time it's dawned on me that I find myself hanging with the underdogs, the misfits, outcasts, and low people on the totam pole peacking oder. I'm not just talking about it being on the boards either, I tend to do that in RL too.

Pull up a chair, my friend, I've always been hangin' with the low people on the totem pole.  That song Friends in Low Places comes to mind.  I just love how people try to tell me, "You are so unique, you should expose yourself to more people."  Ummm...no, first I have a problem exposing myself (I think it's illegal here too)....well wait no, unless it is a Motley Crue concert and Tommy Lee gets out his cam (for those who have been and know what cam it is, well I'm up for exposing then).  Anyway I know what they really mean, my personality is not meant to be shared with only a few but I like it that way.  I always tell them, "Uh no, I like having just one really good friend or a just few, that way when I get stabbed in the back I don't have to guess where it came from."  Practical.

What are you looking at Mr. Krios?


Uh....hold still you have a little something on your...gun?

[gearseffect]

utaker1988 wrote...

gearseffect wrote...


Ya know what this is not the first time it's dawned on me that I find myself hanging with the underdogs, the misfits, outcasts, and low people on the totam pole peacking oder. I'm not just talking about it being on the boards either, I tend to do that in RL too.

Pull up a chair, my friend, I've always been hangin' with the low people on the totem pole.  That song Friends in Low Places comes to mind.  I just love how people try to tell me, "You are so unique, you should expose yourself to more people."  Ummm...no, first I have a problem exposing myself (I think it's illegal here too)....well wait no, unless it is a Motley Crue concert and Tommy Lee gets out his cam (for those who have been and know what cam it is, well I'm up for exposing then).  Anyway I know what they really mean, my personality is not meant to be shared with only a few but I like it that way.  I always tell them, "Uh no, I like having just one really good friend or a just few, that way when I get stabbed in the back I don't have to guess where it came from."  Practical.

Ohh boy did you see the Crue on the Carnival of Sins tour too, or was it on one of their many other tours with the Cam?
Oh boy I remember seeing the Crue on that tour and suddenly it changed what I considered great music, and led me to the discovery of the Darkest Heavyest band to walk of the Sun Set Strip in the 80's a band that's last 5 albums makes all Metalliica's albumes look like Poison, their name W.A.S.P.

Anyway sorry but you started it and it just had to go there because it always goes there. I tend to just hang with the outcasts, underdogs, low people, I'm sure it has something to do with my standing with my parents, being an outcast and for the last 3 years or so they seem to want less to do with me. But anyway yeah what was we talking about again/....

[mnomaha]

OMG somebody remembers W.A.S.P.???? Honestly, you say the best things...

[Julia_xo]

@utaker I love those screencaps (you always manage to catch Thane in the most compromising moments!) and your new icon is lovely. <3

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Nerana wrote...

ME3 in general has had a very bad effect on my interest in games and movies at the moment. I can't work up the strength to be excited about anything new media wise. As... "emo" as it sounds ME3 and Bioware has shattered my impression of games and hell, that female gamers actually started to get treated well.

2 years of being excited for ME3 and it was just popped like a balloon. I suppose it'll take awhile to recover from that, no matter how much most of my RL friends won't understand it. That kind of disappointment leaves a mark.

You've summed up exactly how I've been feeling the last few weeks. It's like the game has continued to stalk me even though I've barely touched it for nearly a month now. I'll play skyrim but I'll just sigh and not really get into it like I used to because in the back of my mind, I am always aware of how badly ME3 disappointed me. You don't just "get over" something you got excited about and constantly thought about for 2 years of your life. What's more annoying is that it’s something I can't talk about to others in RL because no one I know is a mass effect fan.

I used to praise bioware as the perfect example on how to treat the female demographic. The creation of femshep restored what little faith I had, that gaming companies COULD give a damn about me and acknowledge that I existed. That they could create a female protagonist that I would feel proud to play as. It was the first time (besides playing dragon age) that I felt so invested playing a female  character.

I never felt punished for being a female in the mass effect universe...until ME3.I used to feel equal but now because I play as a femshep, I don't deserve to have as many love interests as a male shepard and I don't deserve to have my subplots continued. Apparently I deserve to have my love interests die and dump me because my choices aren't important anymore.

I don't know about you ladies, but that was a bigger smack in the face then the ending for me. The bad ending happened to ALL of our shepards, renegade,paragon, male or female. it was a universal disappointment that at the very least got enough people angry enough make bioware change it (or alter it). ....but our LI treatment happened because we are the minority and bioware didn’t think us being upset would matter. Sadly, our outcry won't be as mighty or have the same amount of support. Knowing this sad fact is what depresses me most.

You guys summed it up. Yeah, I definitely get the impression they looked at statistics and since FemShep players are the minority that's where the corners were cut the most. BioWare was one of the few companies I wouldn't have expected this kind of thing from but my faith in them is shattered.

The gaming community is still pretty sexist and despite the fact that female gamers are slowly being recognized as a demographic, male fans are still overwhelmingly catered to by developers. This whole situation is just a sad reminder of that, in my opinion.

I can't help but think of how Thane's character was (according to BW) created with female gamers in mind. At one point they cared enough to create him.  So what happened?

I find it insulting that they played up FemShep in the promos leading up to ME3 when the truth of the matter was that content exclusive to her in-game had been cut. Talk about a slap to the face. They take one step forward and three steps back. I just can't understand BioWare and the decisions they've made in regard to ME3. Hard to believe this is the same company who gave us the first two Mass Effect games (and DA) among others.

We might not be as loud as the people complaining about the endings but I'm glad that we're at least trying to be heard. Whether they listen or not is up to them but at least we're making the effort.

[gearseffect]

mnomaha wrote...

OMG somebody remembers W.A.S.P.???? Honestly, you say the best things...

OMG is right holy crap I'm not the only W.A.S.P.  fan here. Blackie and Co. are still out there kicking ass and putting albums out,

I may now have to ask you to mary me

[mnomaha]

hahahaha

Bring it on dear, but I am not painting myself blue, not even for you!

[utaker1988]

@gears, I can't remember what tour it was...I know I'm a bad Crue fan, the last time I saw them it was at the Bell Centre in Montreal. As ones mind gets older some things are lost, just as I can no longer recall exactly what year so and so played at an Ozzfest. I just remember going to many of them.

@julia, Thanks and yes it is my goal in life to catch Thane not being so reserved. He's got an inner beast in him. I bet my Shep walks away with bruises after their moments. But in the same breath, I love finding him being so sweet and loving.

Each of my Shep's would react differently to finding out what he was doing back there. Cameron would smirk and then grab his hand and place it on her azz with the words, "You like staring, here take a handful. Is your curiosity sated now?" Hope would wait until he's in the same situation and do the same back. Faith would probably just blush and get all paranoid that he's always doing it. Malificent, glad she didn't know, she's so evil and full of herself that she would have dropped her pants and told him, "Here keep this in your drell memory banks."

[Tashash]

utaker1988 wrote...
Each of my Shep's would react differently to finding out what he was doing back there. Cameron would smirk and then grab his hand and place it on her azz with the words, "You like staring, here take a handful. Is your curiosity sated now?" Hope would wait until he's in the same situation and do the same back. Faith would probably just blush and get all paranoid that he's always doing it. Malificent, glad she didn't know, she's so evil and full of herself that she would have dropped her pants and told him, "Here keep this in your drell memory banks."

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

I think I like Cameron's idea best. My Rhea is too reserved to do such a thing, at least in public...

[Little Vixen]

Julia_xo wrote...

@utaker I love those screencaps (you always manage to catch Thane in the most compromising moments!) and your new icon is lovely. <3

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Nerana wrote...

ME3 in general has had a very bad effect on my interest in games and movies at the moment. I can't work up the strength to be excited about anything new media wise. As... "emo" as it sounds ME3 and Bioware has shattered my impression of games and hell, that female gamers actually started to get treated well.

2 years of being excited for ME3 and it was just popped like a balloon. I suppose it'll take awhile to recover from that, no matter how much most of my RL friends won't understand it. That kind of disappointment leaves a mark.

You've summed up exactly how I've been feeling the last few weeks. It's like the game has continued to stalk me even though I've barely touched it for nearly a month now. I'll play skyrim but I'll just sigh and not really get into it like I used to because in the back of my mind, I am always aware of how badly ME3 disappointed me. You don't just "get over" something you got excited about and constantly thought about for 2 years of your life. What's more annoying is that it’s something I can't talk about to others in RL because no one I know is a mass effect fan.

I used to praise bioware as the perfect example on how to treat the female demographic. The creation of femshep restored what little faith I had, that gaming companies COULD give a damn about me and acknowledge that I existed. That they could create a female protagonist that I would feel proud to play as. It was the first time (besides playing dragon age) that I felt so invested playing a female  character.

I never felt punished for being a female in the mass effect universe...until ME3.I used to feel equal but now because I play as a femshep, I don't deserve to have as many love interests as a male shepard and I don't deserve to have my subplots continued. Apparently I deserve to have my love interests die and dump me because my choices aren't important anymore.

I don't know about you ladies, but that was a bigger smack in the face then the ending for me. The bad ending happened to ALL of our shepards, renegade,paragon, male or female. it was a universal disappointment that at the very least got enough people angry enough make bioware change it (or alter it). ....but our LI treatment happened because we are the minority and bioware didn’t think us being upset would matter. Sadly, our outcry won't be as mighty or have the same amount of support. Knowing this sad fact is what depresses me most.

You guys summed it up. Yeah, I definitely get the impression they looked at statistics and since FemShep players are the minority that's where the corners were cut the most. BioWare was one of the few companies I wouldn't have expected this kind of thing from but my faith in them is shattered.

The gaming community is still pretty sexist and despite the fact that female gamers are slowly being recognized as a demographic, male fans are still overwhelmingly catered to by developers. This whole situation is just a sad reminder of that, in my opinion.

I can't help but think of how Thane's character was (according to BW) created with female gamers in mind. At one point they cared enough to create him.  So what happened?

I find it insulting that they played up FemShep in the promos leading up to ME3 when the truth of the matter was that content exclusive to her in-game had been cut. Talk about a slap to the face. They take one step forward and three steps back. I just can't understand BioWare and the decisions they've made in regard to ME3. Hard to believe this is the same company who gave us the first two Mass Effect games (and DA) among others.

We might not be as loud as the people complaining about the endings but I'm glad that we're at least trying to be heard. Whether they listen or not is up to them but at least we're making the effort.

Female Shepard is an empowering character to play as a female gamer. I was bowled over by the care and tenderness taken with Thane's character in ME2. I really felt that Thane was written with female gamers in mind. And, then ME3 happened......

Female Shepard was forgotten on so many levels and made to suffer like no character before her and unlike her male counterpart.

Thane ripped from her with no hope of changing his fate.

Jacob taken away.

Kaidan questions her every move to the point that Shepard starts questioning herself and who she is. This amazing woman is torn down by her "friend." Or, alternately, he is just dead from the Virmire incident.

Garrus (who is amazing) is only available if that was the choice made in ME2.

I don't understand what the thinking was where Female Shepard's love interests and choices were concerned.