I didn't see that... I actually can't play the game anymore, all my ME games are at the bottom of my game box out of sight I'm playing DA2. I was disappointed with DA2 (Zevran why you cheat?) but I did really enjoy it too. ME3 is infinitely more disappointing for me although overall it is the better game.
Bolded for Point. I am right there with you. I have been playing DA2, and after my current F!Hawke is finished, I am going to finally finish three other DAO wardens I have, just sitting there......(god I hate the fade).
I have no heart to play ME, in any way shape or form. I'm heading toward finishing the last DA:O I had going before this crapfest was released. I did play DA2 and after saying how awful it was, I take it back. It was glorious compared to what they did to Thane. I fixed that whole Zevran issue, first I did not flirt with him (I had Fenris), and I most certainly did NOT bring Isabela with me. It's not really fixed but at least I didn't have to sit there and cry. As for the Fade, if you play on PC there is a nice mod that skips that whole fade thing, you do the nightmares then fight the sloth and it's done. I won't play it on my 360 anymore, can't skip it there.
I didn't see that... I actually can't play the game anymore, all my ME games are at the bottom of my game box out of sight I'm playing DA2. I was disappointed with DA2 (Zevran why you cheat?) but I did really enjoy it too. ME3 is infinitely more disappointing for me although overall it is the better game.
Bolded for Point. I am right there with you. I have been playing DA2, and after my current F!Hawke is finished, I am going to finally finish three other DAO wardens I have, just sitting there......(god I hate the fade).
I have no heart to play ME, in any way shape or form. I'm heading toward finishing the last DA:O I had going before this crapfest was released. I did play DA2 and after saying how awful it was, I take it back. It was glorious compared to what they did to Thane. I fixed that whole Zevran issue, first I did not flirt with him (I had Fenris), and I most certainly did NOT bring Isabela with me. It's not really fixed but at least I didn't have to sit there and cry. As for the Fade, if you play on PC there is a nice mod that skips that whole fade thing, you do the nightmares then fight the sloth and it's done. I won't play it on my 360 anymore, can't skip it there.
Ha...it's funny, I only imported one of my romanced Zevran play throughs, and I did exactly what you did. Don't bring Issy, and don't flirt
I actually really like DA2. Great characters, and I admit, I am addicted to the speed. As for DAO and skipping the fade; yeah, I know about the mod for PC users, but aaaaaagggghhh! I have it on the xbox360. I did at least find a guide that is the fastest route to take to get through it, which helps.
I'm hoping that eventually I will be able to go back to the first two ME games. I think it will happen, but it may take a little time.
AtreiyaN7 wrote... My thoughts exactly, and I romanced Thane in ME2. All along I knew that A) Kepral's was terminal and that there has been, to date, no actual cure. To have expected a miracle would have been unrealistic and would have been, frankly, kind of a cop-out in my eyes. In ME2, I accepted what I knew would be coming and still chose to hand over my character's heart to someone who was dying.
Part of me wanted that cure more than anything, but you know what? Thane had a good death. He died protecting Shepard and the others, and his death scene in the hospital was so moving that it had me in tears - especially after Kolyat's prayer. The letter killed me too (cue my umpteenth crying jag during the game). I don't think he was treated casually at all. I know that the lack of the paramour achievement with him has people upset (along with the other stuff), but that doesn't diminish him or the romance in my eyes.
Did he have a huge amount of screen time? No, but what time he had was meaningful and touching if you ask me. And part of the reason he was staying in the hospital was to protect Kaidan because Thane knew about him, which added to the tragedy in my case - especially after I caved in and resumed my relationship with Kaidan. That really upped my guilt level when Thane was dying, heh. Gutting Kai Leng later on was...satisfying. While I empathize about Thane, I don't think that he or the romance was dealt with poorly.
How come it's not a cop-out that Mordin managed to synthesize a cure for the genophage but it'd be a cop-out for Thane to have some kind of treatment? We know the Hanar are working on a cure for his disease. It doesn't just affect Thane, it affects his entire race (who are already few in number).
Thane doesn't even necesarily need to be cured. He could have gotten the lung transplant which we found out he was eligible for in LotSB. At the very least, it could have prolonged his life. None of that is unreasonable to hope for.
I have to strongly disagree about the romance. I certainly did not find it satisfying. This is coming from someone who stuck with it. My Shepard had no interest in anyone else despite the game repeatedly trying to force Kaidan and others on her.
The main problem is that there really isn't much of a difference between the scenes based on whether Thane is romanced or if he isn't. There was also a distinct lack of emotion involved.
Shepard was never given the chance to tell Thane what he means to her. How is that satisfying? The game basically forces you to behave in a way that suggests Shepard really doesn't care all that much or is just an aquaintance. To my Shepard, Thane was the love of her life and she had to watch him die in the most stoic manner possible. With no way to tell him what he means to her.
As if that's not bad enough, no one remembers him after. They act like he didn't exist. People just start flirting with Shepard as if her lover didn't just die. WTF.
If you want to see a death scene for a romanced character done right, click here to watch Miranda's optional death:
If Thane's death had been handled with a fraction of the care and attention Miranda's optional death gets, there'd probably be a lot less angry people here lamenting the sheer unfairness of it.
I don't understand why the omni-tool is now a sword.
How come it's not a cop-out that Mordin managed to synthesize a cure for the genophage but it'd be a cop-out for Thane to have some kind of treatment?
Well, Thane's time was cut short thanks to his assassin-stopping activities and before a cure could be found. I think that even with a transplant his injuries would have killed him. He was stabbed straight through, after all. Mordin had until the Reapers destroyed the galaxy (and they were in no hurry) to get a cure.
How come it's not a cop-out that Mordin managed to synthesize a cure for the genophage but it'd be a cop-out for Thane to have some kind of treatment?
Well, Thane's time was cut short thanks to his assassin-stopping activities and before a cure could be found. I think that even with a transplant his injuries would have killed him. He was stabbed straight through, after all. Mordin had until the Reapers destroyed the galaxy (and they were in no hurry) to get a cure.
Yeah, but BioWare could have had him have the transplant while Shepard was locked up, depending on whether Thane was romanced or possibly even if his loyalty mission was completed successfully.
That way, he'd be in the hospital recovering from the procedure, not waiting to die. That's one way they could have implemented it.
I just hate that the transplant was never mentioned again! Why get our hopes up only to crush it in the end?
Why don't you guys just cry about it? Next time maybe you won't start a relationship with someone that has disease with the same killing power as AIDS.
Just to add my REAL 2 cents. I think they did him enough justice, especially with the fight against Keprals and Kai Leng.
I'm glad that you think so and I understand this thread is very long with many long posts. So here is my tl;dr
RShara wrote...
To summarize for those who haven't read through our very long posts
It's not the fact that he dies. It's the reaction to that death that is pissing us off. Nearly identical dialogue, and no reaction from crewmates.
Do we want an option for him to live? Many of us do. But we accept that probably isn't possible at this point. We've been defeated and have fallen back to our minimum line of retreat: Have Shepard gd react to the death of a lover.
I feel like a jerk for speaking out against fans of any ME romance, but I think anyone who thinks that there should have been an option for Thane to survive is being kind of unfair. It was upfront from the beginning that he was dying of a disease that the doctors didn't know how to cure, and any FemShep who romances him goes into that relationship being told that. It does a serious disservice to that relationship if you whisk a cure out of nowhere at the last minute.
Though from what I know of it, I can definitely sympathise with anyone who wished to see a little more of him before the end. I personally am hoping that, after the endings get fixed, Bioware will look at releasing some DLC for the various love interests to elaborate on those sorts of things.
I will speak for myself..I went into romance with Thane knowing, that he is dying, that's true. I didn't expect magical cure for Thane in ME3 and " fairly tale" ending, especially after I read leaked scripts. But the things BioWare done with Thane ( and Jacob) in ME3 was a big dissapointment for me. Most important..while we knew, Thane is dying BioWare hinted ( ie in SB dossiers) that there is hope for Thane. Dialog ( only one) in game is poor, intimate scene weird, You can never ever to say that he is important for You, crew never noticed that Shepard lost her love, Kaidan offered me a date right after death scene. Silly and lazy way from devs. That's why I can't accept what devs done with him. And theirs talk about forgotting Thane as LI it's just silly. ME is about choices ( and Im angry that in fact ME1&ME2 choices aren't really important in last part). We havn't any in Thane cause, no matter what You will do in game to change Thane's fate. While Miranda, Tali, Jack even silly Kelly have chance to be "rescue" I felt, it's unfair we can't do this for Thane, especially after LotSB and some info that maybe we will be able to cure him. And I think, that this opportunity was cut off from game ( along with a lot of better dialogs/scenes with Thane I saw in scripts). We have side quest with hanar diplomat where in a result we save or not hanar's homeworld ( potential source of cure for Thane). Then, in hospital, before Thane died, we had this disscusion with a doctor, who said, that they fixed damage from a fight, and You have option to offer yours help ( probably it was another option to give us chance to save Thane). I don't know if I would save Thane in every my game, but I want to have choice. Game left me with feeling that Thane was just placeholder in my Shepard's bed before her re-union with VS, like he was never important for her, and no one ever noticed his death...that's sad...and unfair...
BTW I liked fight between Thane and Kai Leng, also Im happy to kill Kai Leng..but I choosed renegade interuption so I stabbed bastard with his own sword...a lot of times thanks for re-loading
I am really starting to resent people who didn't romance Thane coming into this thread and leaving their 2 cents. Unless you picked Thane as your main LI, ya are not going to fully understand.
So, because I didn't romance Thane, I'm not allowed to have an opinion on him in ME3?
No one is saying that.
Oh for the love of god. I was just telling off someone who really didn’t have an opinion to start off with. Quit quoting me. However if someone else comes in with a nonsense response, then I’ll just have to bring bigger guns next time. lol. But thank you JCEW.
Anywhos, getting back on topic. My close friend who always had a bromance with Thane called me up pissed that Thane died. He began yelling about how it was unfair for only the romance to have the option to save him. But then I had to inform him that wasn't true…. then he responded back with a bunch of cussing and how he wanted him back as a squad mate. So even if he is the minority in the unromancables, he wanted a choice too.
My heart goes out for you. I can't disagree with anything you are saying. There should have been an option. An option would have please both parties. I don't understand how the writers couldn't see this. This is just common sense. Even if I haven't experience lost in my life, common sense would have told me that an option would be the best choice. (Since choices are and is what the game is about, why does it change when it comes to Thane? Every day in rl people are working on a cure/prolonging people's life. Saving him is not realistic).
I will be writing a long letter to Bioware. Even if it doesn't change anything, I think someone needs to speak out for people like us. They can't emotionally draw us in, hint at a cure/prolonging his life and then pull something like this in ME3. This level of cruelty needs to be address.
It is common sense. I wish I could defend the storyline and the choices that were made but I just can't.
I hope they reply to you when you do write them. I've been thinking about doing the same thing.
I wrote them and sent it. If I get any response back, I will be sure to post it in this thread.
My heart goes out for you. I can't disagree with anything you are saying. There should have been an option. An option would have please both parties. I don't understand how the writers couldn't see this. This is just common sense. Even if I haven't experience lost in my life, common sense would have told me that an option would be the best choice. (Since choices are and is what the game is about, why does it change when it comes to Thane? Every day in rl people are working on a cure/prolonging people's life. Saving him is not realistic).
I will be writing a long letter to Bioware. Even if it doesn't change anything, I think someone needs to speak out for people like us. They can't emotionally draw us in, hint at a cure/prolonging his life and then pull something like this in ME3. This level of cruelty needs to be address.
It is common sense. I wish I could defend the storyline and the choices that were made but I just can't.
I hope they reply to you when you do write them. I've been thinking about doing the same thing.
I wrote them and sent it. If I get any response back, I will be sure to post it in this thread.
*Sorry for the double post*
Sounds good! I'll do the same if I hear anything back.
My heart goes out for you. I can't disagree with anything you are saying. There should have been an option. An option would have please both parties. I don't understand how the writers couldn't see this. This is just common sense. Even if I haven't experience lost in my life, common sense would have told me that an option would be the best choice. (Since choices are and is what the game is about, why does it change when it comes to Thane? Every day in rl people are working on a cure/prolonging people's life. Saving him is not realistic).
I will be writing a long letter to Bioware. Even if it doesn't change anything, I think someone needs to speak out for people like us. They can't emotionally draw us in, hint at a cure/prolonging his life and then pull something like this in ME3. This level of cruelty needs to be address.
It is common sense. I wish I could defend the storyline and the choices that were made but I just can't.
I hope they reply to you when you do write them. I've been thinking about doing the same thing.
I wrote them and sent it. If I get any response back, I will be sure to post it in this thread.
*Sorry for the double post*
Sounds good! I'll do the same if I hear anything back.
Anyone else find it ironic that while Thane is healthy enough to shadowbox in the Hospital lobby when you meet him, exercises for "pleasure", and healthy enough for hand-to-hand combat with Kai Leng, he's supposedly not healthy enough for a proper roll in the hay so Thanemancers have to settle for a creepy make-out scene in the Huerta waiting room?
I was reading in some other threads and a vast majority of the fans think the game was great until the end. I completely disagree, there's a lot wrong. What do you guys think?
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that there has been, to date, no actual cure. To have expected a miracle would have been unrealistic and would have been, frankly, kind of a cop-out in my eyes. In ME2, I accepted what I knew would be coming and still chose to hand over my character's heart to someone who was dying. 
