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gearseffect wrote...


Oh and because I'm so tasteless and BW got obsessed with the little boy, You may have seen my poster around here before, but I don't think I ever posted it in here. It's about the happy ending


I went to see The Avengers last night and I saw a boy in line that looked like the starchild and my first thought was that I should go and punch him lol. 

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@coldwetn0se:I hope you at least can have a calm weekend, sounds like you've had one heck of a time, indeed!:/ Hope the kitty feels better soon, too-and yeah, sign, I can imagine how it is, trying to give her meds when she doesn't want them(aand they never do, do they?)

As for BW, I hope they get into gear soon-they'd better, because, the way I see it, they may set out to further coddle the Liara/Kaidan/Ashley fans, but in doing so, they stand to lose everyone else who are, potentially, more people-aka in EA-speak, more money!:/

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mnomaha wrote...

@Coldi...here, have a look at my commission from K-Laine...

http://my.deviantart...sages/#/d4yo9wq

You should see it without the filter. ;)


Have mercy.....!!Image IPB  Damn, I tried using an eraser on that stupid green smiley face....didn't work!!!Image IPB  Ahh well, it still made my morning, Shell......you rock!Image IPB

@gears and @tash - thanks again to both for the well wishes

I should just keep my big fat mouth shut though.....having a stupid pity party last night, so just ignore my pathetic rant.  This too shall passImage IPB.

Instead, I think after I get done with work, I am going to try and write some PDS; she has been left in limbo far too long.  She needs her Drell back (and her Tin-man and Sally the Salamander)!

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Hisilome wrote...

@coldwetn0se:I hope you at least can have a calm weekend, sounds like you've had one heck of a time, indeed!:/ Hope the kitty feels better soon, too-and yeah, sign, I can imagine how it is, trying to give her meds when she doesn't want them(aand they never do, do they?)

As for BW, I hope they get into gear soon-they'd better, because, the way I see it, they may set out to further coddle the Liara/Kaidan/Ashley fans, but in doing so, they stand to lose everyone else who are, potentially, more people-aka in EA-speak, more money!:/


That would be incredibly stupid if they continue to ignore us and the rest of the ME2 fans.
If they keep doing that and do nothing to fix the mess they made with the romances then I will probably never bother with Bioware again.

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Hisilome wrote...

@coldwetn0se:I hope you at least can have a calm weekend, sounds like you've had one heck of a time, indeed!:/ Hope the kitty feels better soon, too-and yeah, sign, I can imagine how it is, trying to give her meds when she doesn't want them(aand they never do, do they?)

As for BW, I hope they get into gear soon-they'd better, because, the way I see it, they may set out to further coddle the Liara/Kaidan/Ashley fans, but in doing so, they stand to lose everyone else who are, potentially, more people-aka in EA-speak, more money!:/



My furry friend and I thank you......as stated in last post; all will be well eventually.Image IPB

I really have to wonder how much they are thinking/discussing on, in regards to how fem!Shep was handled in this game.  And, of course, all characterization and LI's (or lack there of) related to the hot mess that is fem!Shep.  Interestingly enough, my first completed Shepard was my Abel Shepard, and talk about a train wreck. 

I played Abel almost completely green (he was started in ME2; got that game first), so he made a lot of 'less than perfect' judgements.  Tried to get together with Miranda in ME2, but lost her loyalty, did a quickie with Jack (but when I did peek at the wiki about the relationship, I saw that the quickie nullifies Jack as a true LI), so I redid the scene and chose NOT to have a quickie.  Then Abel ended up in a relationship with Tali......wasn't meaning to at first, but decided to go through with it, even though I initially thought he would end up with Jack.  He got half his crew killed (poor GingerSnap), but surprisingly didn't get any squaddies killed on the SM....go figure.  (Of course, he is left with an import that has a three unloyal squaddies.....sad times ahead for Miri if I ever imported.)

NOW, even with all of that, I could import him into me3, and he would STILL have a better arc than any of my fem!Sheps!  Not only would his character be less butchered (the railroading of ALL the Sheps into a particular......hmmm....how to say....flavor? wouldn't be that far out of character for how I played him, but I suppose that is just lucky).  And as for LI's; Ashley is alive, Liara is on board, and of course, eventually he would be reunited with Tali.  AND, if he decided to be a switch hitter, he has Cortez, or he could have a fling with "beat by the ugly stick" Allers.Image IPB

So back to my original pondering; what is the BW team thinking about in regards to fem!Shep??  Will they ever address these glaring character flaws?  Will her LI's ever be bolstered or left to oblivian??  Will I ever stop goofing off and go finish my work???  Inquiring minds............Image IPB

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Please take the time to address your concerns in this in depth survey put out by the ME Universe website. 

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For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

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Modifié par ShadyGerbilz, 05 mai 2012 - 06:01 .


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ShadyGerbilz wrote...

For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

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Quick! Everyone! Voice why it's important to save Thane! (In a civil manner of course)

Rushes off to tweet!

[Edit] He did say nothing is impossible...I won't lose hope oh no I won't!

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 05 mai 2012 - 06:14 .


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Emeraldfern wrote...

ShadyGerbilz wrote...

For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k4zw70ql1r292pho1_500.png


Quick! Everyone! Voice why it's important to save Thane! (In a civil manner of course)

Rushes off to tweet!

[Edit] He did say nothing is impossible...I won't lose hope oh no I won't!


dammit....I don't have a twitter account, and I really have to get back to work, so "GOD SPEED" Emerald!!!!

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Jus tweeted this:

But...my Shepard is lost w/o her drell! The Reapers doesn't matter anymore..She needs her resolve ie. Thane back!

I dunno if he'll answer though..(He hasnt tweeted the past 15hrs so..)

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 05 mai 2012 - 06:26 .


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Patrick weekes:  "De-logiicking a death would be a scripting nightmare, very risky technically"
^ Not doing so however, would be more of a risk..Has he BEEN to this forum?:devil: I don't know you ladies and gentlemen..but I certainly wouldn't want to live in fear of being mauled by the occupiers of this thread. He might have to change his name and file under witness protection when this is all over :blink:..

Modifié par ShadyGerbilz, 05 mai 2012 - 06:28 .


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Twitter/ Over capacity...

it's better now i said this
dlc for Thane can bring back players who quit because of how he was handled. please don't forget him again. Option for a cure

Modifié par Jenlocks, 05 mai 2012 - 06:53 .


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I come baring a gift...a link to the non-smiley version.

http://www.paperdemo...cart/view/32375

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mnomaha wrote...

I come baring a gift...a link to the non-smiley version.

http://www.paperdemo...cart/view/32375


OMG
I don't know what to say. I will never get that out of my head, and I don't want to. Image IPB

Modifié par JECW, 05 mai 2012 - 09:18 .


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ShadyGerbilz wrote...

For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

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So they won't fix this. Are Thane fans going to be the only ones to suffer.
Unfortunatly I don't have a twitter account. Now I just don't know.Image IPB

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mnomaha wrote...

I come baring a gift...a link to the non-smiley version.

http://www.paperdemo...cart/view/32375


*Tosses unneeded eraser over shoulder, and gets to droolin'.  WOWZA!! <wolf whistle>Image IPBImage IPB*

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What Weekes says isn't necessarily a bad thing,I'd say! Rewriting the game and script to un-kill Thane would be a technical nightmare, probably; they should have got it right in the first place, in my opinion,mind you!:/As opposed to dropping the ball on Thane and Jacob and the ME2 romances and the endings, since I'm listing flukes here!

Now, on the other hand,giving players a choice to save him or at least more time with him should be somewhat simpler.If he is still alive after the Citadel, and, say,not on the squad, due to his health and having to undergo treatment to be cured and so on, writing in a few correspondence emails with Shepard or even some holo-chats in the Comm room-or some more dialogue in Huerta, if he's still got to be there-should be a LOT easier to manage!!

Or even if he is off-screen somewhere, helping against the Reaper threat after being cured; we could still get chats with him,perhaps a proper love scene, a farewell chat via holo-com in London...and a darn flashback at the end!Are those too much to ask for?:(

@Mnomaha:Very glad I saw that link after I wrote the above...mind just stopped functioning, after I clicked the un-smili-ed picture!:devil:

Modifié par Hisilome, 05 mai 2012 - 09:34 .


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Hisilome wrote...

What Weekes says isn't necessarily a bad thing,I'd say! Rewriting the game and script to un-kill Thane would be a technical nightmare, probably; they should have got it right in the first place, in my opinion,mind you!:/As opposed to dropping the ball on Thane and Jacob and the ME2 romances and the endings, since I'm listing flukes here!

Now, on the other hand,giving players a choice to save him or at least more time with him should be somewhat simpler.If he is still alive after the Citadel, and, say,not on the squad, due to his health and having to undergo treatment to be cured and so on, writing in a few correspondence emails with Shepard or even some holo-chats in the Comm room-or some more dialogue in Huerta, if he's still got to be there-should be a LOT easier to manage!!

Or even if he is off-screen somewhere, helping against the Reaper threat after being cured; we could still get chats with him,perhaps a proper love scene, a farewell chat via holo-com in London...and a darn flashback at the end!Are those too much to ask for?:(

@Mnomaha:Very glad I saw that link after I wrote the above...mind just stopped functioning, after I clicked the un-smili-ed picture!:devil:


I hope you are right because as of right now Thane probably wouldn't be in any future DLC.
An option is pretty much all any of us has ever wanted. The question is will they do this. I'm still hoping that they do.

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Hisilome wrote...

What Weekes says isn't necessarily a bad thing,I'd say! Rewriting the game and script to un-kill Thane would be a technical nightmare, probably; they should have got it right in the first place, in my opinion,mind you!:/As opposed to dropping the ball on Thane and Jacob and the ME2 romances and the endings, since I'm listing flukes here!

Now, on the other hand,giving players a choice to save him or at least more time with him should be somewhat simpler.If he is still alive after the Citadel, and, say,not on the squad, due to his health and having to undergo treatment to be cured and so on, writing in a few correspondence emails with Shepard or even some holo-chats in the Comm room-or some more dialogue in Huerta, if he's still got to be there-should be a LOT easier to manage!!

Or even if he is off-screen somewhere, helping against the Reaper threat after being cured; we could still get chats with him,perhaps a proper love scene, a farewell chat via holo-com in London...and a darn flashback at the end!Are those too much to ask for?:(

@Mnomaha:Very glad I saw that link after I wrote the above...mind just stopped functioning, after tI clicked the un-smili-ed picture!:devil:


It's funny, but that actually went through my head as well, after I read his comment.  If a choice is implemented, it wouldn't negate what we were already given, just added new option and subsequent content for choosing to have him live.  Then maybe (just maybe) they could include him in future DLC if you have chosen to do the steps needed to keep him alive, and new LI content could be added as well.

ahhhhh.....here's hoping....*goes back to staring at Shell's picture...........*

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It's just hard keeping up hope when the developers haven't said anything.
It just feels like we are being ignored all the time.

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I have to to get a rant out. Today I was hanging with one of my high school pals, anyway we got talking about ME3, and I told him I hated it, BW threw away all the characters,they reduced Samara, to a half @ssed cameo, they destroyed Ashley's look, they p!ssed all over Jacob Taylor, they reduced Kasumi and Zaeed to a cameo, nearly all of Kelly's content got cut out of the finale version of ME3, Miranda was done half @ssed, and Jack was discarded as a Squad Mate, on top of that they killed Thane off and it was done very tasteless. And the ending was sh!t, total BS no one really knows who lived or died, or the fate of YOUR own unique ME story.

To which he told me, "Oh get over it, people die in games, I didn't see you B!tching when Dom got killed of in Gears 3.The ending was cool, no one lived, it was how things should have happened the Reapers were going to destroy everything in the end. It wasn't feasibly possible for a happy out come. Further more I support video games as Art, and BW had every right to do what they did. As artists It's not their job to appease fans, it's their job to make what they want"

He's been my best friend since high school and so I let it slide but my god the kid needs a wake up call.

Not to mention he said "There was no possible way that there would be a happy outcome to something like that"

Really? Really? did you just say that to me? Good god man did your forget back in Nov of 2010, when my older brother stepped on an IED made for armored trucks, 60 pounds of explosives, and only lost his left leg, went flying 20 feet back, and remained conscious the whole time, yelling at the LT for making stupid choices and being a dumb@ss, while the medivac was on it's way. He's still alive and kicking and no other injuries other than his left leg missing from just above the knee.

Don't tell me about what's possible dude, because the logical possibility is my older shouldn't even be alive. Don't give me that horsesh!t.

Further more, The art angle is so tiring and I'm about ready to vomit, because you know how many musicians I've heard say as an artists their main goal is to make their fans happy with the music they make, because their fans pay their bills.

Don't give me that BS dude, don't tell me that stupid sh!t, I mean I totally remember you b!tching about every Resident Evil game coming out and how they continue to ruin the series even more with each new RE game. You continue to b!tch about it, but suddenly I am told that I can't be just ass p!ssed off about ME3? Freaking idiot, hypocrites are so freaking irritating.

Sorry I'm done now, I just needed to get that out,

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ShadyGerbilz wrote...

For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

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Now I'm really angry...."I edit  for the sake of politeness"...i'm past the wording  stade...I better log  out before I brake my keyboard.Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB

Modifié par Saodade, 05 mai 2012 - 09:59 .


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Saodade wrote...

ShadyGerbilz wrote...

For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k4zw70ql1r292pho1_500.png


Now I'm really angry....what a band of...I would....grrrrr....what??  How .....OMFG....I need  to get some air....Image IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB


FML.

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I say the more we keep showing BW that we want a choice the higher our chances get.

Why?

Revenue. Profit. Two words that rings well with any company.


As for it being a technological nightmare idk.

Adding new flags are not imposssible. If it was then we wouldn't have been able to play LotSB in ME2. The same could be said for editing existing ones.



Then again, they also said it was because of "technical" difficulties that we got Liara as a flashback in the ending no matter who you romanced. And we know that's editable by modding.

/This comes from my own admittedly limited, knowledge, of how the plot flag system worked in ME2 and how it was structured in DAO. I have a hard time believing ME3 is "that" different in it's structure from ME2.

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gearseffect wrote...

I have to to get a rant out. Today I was hanging with one of my high school pals, anyway we got talking about ME3, and I told him I hated it, BW threw away all the characters,they reduced Samara, to a half @ssed cameo, they destroyed Ashley's look, they p!ssed all over Jacob Taylor, they reduced Kasumi and Zaeed to a cameo, nearly all of Kelly's content got cut out of the finale version of ME3, Miranda was done half @ssed, and Jack was discarded as a Squad Mate, on top of that they killed Thane off and it was done very tasteless. And the ending was sh!t, total BS no one really knows who lived or died, or the fate of YOUR own unique ME story.

To which he told me, "Oh get over it, people die in games, I didn't see you B!tching when Dom got killed of in Gears 3.The ending was cool, no one lived, it was how things should have happened the Reapers were going to destroy everything in the end. It wasn't feasibly possible for a happy out come. Further more I support video games as Art, and BW had every right to do what they did. As artists It's not their job to appease fans, it's their job to make what they want"

He's been my best friend since high school and so I let it slide but my god the kid needs a wake up call.

Not to mention he said "There was no possible way that there would be a happy outcome to something like that"

Really? Really? did you just say that to me? Good god man did your forget back in Nov of 2010, when my older brother stepped on an IED made for armored trucks, 60 pounds of explosives, and only lost his left leg, went flying 20 feet back, and remained conscious the whole time, yelling at the LT for making stupid choices and being a dumb@ss, while the medivac was on it's way. He's still alive and kicking and no other injuries other than his left leg missing from just above the knee.

Don't tell me about what's possible dude, because the logical possibility is my older shouldn't even be alive. Don't give me that horsesh!t.

Further more, The art angle is so tiring and I'm about ready to vomit, because you know how many musicians I've heard say as an artists their main goal is to make their fans happy with the music they make, because their fans pay their bills.

Don't give me that BS dude, don't tell me that stupid sh!t, I mean I totally remember you b!tching about every Resident Evil game coming out and how they continue to ruin the series even more with each new RE game. You continue to b!tch about it, but suddenly I am told that I can't be just ass p!ssed off about ME3? Freaking idiot, hypocrites are so freaking irritating.

Sorry I'm done now, I just needed to get that out,


You're a good friend because I probably still would have said something.
Everything you said is the truth, and I don't think I will ever understand why they did this to a certain section of the fanbase. Why did they even bother with ME2 if they were just going to throw each and pretty much every character away. They went on and on about the characters in ME2 before the game came out. ME3 comes out and it's a completely different story. It's like these characters don't matter anymore.