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#4951
Emeraldfern

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@gearseffect

Well none of the models are "nude" as far as I know, besides Ash/Kaidan/Liara/Cortez/Traynor and even then I think they are in their undies. The "nude" models are also seperate models from any "clothed" models.

(If anyone has poked around DAO's Toolset, the body meshes in ME are used in a similar fashion as DAO)

I.e. it's the "clothed" models that I've been extracting. Any character that shows up in game has a "clothed" model so to speak. Samara included :)

Hope that I cleared things up a bit. Need moe coffee *Yawn*

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coldwetn0se wrote...

@annie - <SMUSH!> Ok, need details as to where these are taken.....I love maps, so I really want to look this up...*hops up and down, holding her breath till she gleans where Thane is....*



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first pic was taken from my window looking west from Glasgow,  the above picture shows the flats on right in 1955.

www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php

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pic from - http://www.ruleworks...e/ayr-beach.asp

The sea was the beach at Ayr


the location of Glasgow and Ayr is on this map.  Ayr is the tag, glasgow is lablelled :D

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#4953
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Yep, I didn't think any of the ME2 characters had any nude models. The only nude model I've seen extracted from any ME game was ME3 Liara imagine the hell outta that right.

Now back to what I came here to post, a few links to some artwork I think you'd like (if you haven't seen it already) and no don't worry it's not explicate content

http://me-romancable...926269#/d4ylp8e

http://me-romancable...set=48#/d4wgtew

http://me-romancable...et=384#/d39x0os


and one last one
http://arkeeva.devia...rt/Ok-264256948

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Lovely catches, Gearseffect!!:DSuch wonderful art!:D

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wildannie wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

@annie - <SMUSH!> Ok, need details as to where these are taken.....I love maps, so I really want to look this up...*hops up and down, holding her breath till she gleans where Thane is....*



Image IPB

first pic was taken from my window looking west from Glasgow,  the above picture shows the flats on right in 1955.

www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php

Image IPB

Image IPB

pic from - http://www.ruleworks...e/ayr-beach.asp

The sea was the beach at Ayr


the location of Glasgow and Ayr is on this map.  Ayr is the tag, glasgow is lablelled :D

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Okay, I'm divorcing my husband and marrying you!  You just included two of my favorite things: maps and
old photos!!Image IPB 

Thank you for an update......you did such a great job on this.Image IPB

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@coldi

glad you like them! I'm a sucker for old photos and maps (especially old ones) too.

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@ Annie: you are definately living in paradise aren't ya? :) We were thinking of doing some holiday in england next year - but seeing this I think we will come to Scotland instead <3 This pictures (the Thane related and the other ones) are really LOVE!

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Love the pictures Annie!!! Can't wait to see Thane's travels....for a cure, of course. :)

And for anyone that was keeping track of the ME Marathon board, Thane is in third behind Ashley (of all people!).

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Yeah, by quite a bit unfortunately =[ Still I think the board carries on until MEM3 in November, so there is time! Can't believe Ashley is winning though.

Those pictures look great wildannie. I really hope it's sunny when it's time for me to have Thane so I can get some nice ones too!

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MEM? Ok I think I really missed something did I? I have to read more carefully *.*

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Sorry - Mass Effect Marathon 3... I was just too lazy to type =P

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The more I think about it, the more I think there was a push to make femShep canonically lesbian. Probably so Liara could be Shepard's(male and female) true love.

Look at how femShep's choices were taken away. Thane was easy to remove because he was terminal. Jacob? Well, no one "liked" him, so they have him knock up another chick. Kaidan sticks around because he was a VS and made bi, and Garrus just got lucky, even with his passionate fanbase.

The gamble almost paid off because poor Jacob fans don't seem to come around anymore (their forum got burried) because the majority don't like him, and Thane fans have to deal with "You knew he was going to die, so why romance him?" nonesense.

But people need to remember this could have happened to any LI barring the waifu Liara, and to some extent it did. Miranda, Jack and Samara got glorified cameos. the VS, especially Ashley, barely got any content in the last half oft he game, and Garrus and Tali got shortchanged in their romance scene.

So everyone should be supporting this thread and other ME2 support threads to prevent this from happening in the future. Especially Jacob.

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@Beanie - a now I understand :)

One more message to punch us in the face (from Keythe's facebook):

Keythe Farley is Thane Krios
For the record, the only recording sessions I had last week were for Nickelodeon and Activision.

May I go and cry now?

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yamainu1984 wrote...

One more message to punch us in the face (from Keythe's facebook):

Keythe Farley is Thane Krios
For the record, the only recording sessions I had last week were for Nickelodeon and Activision.

May I go and cry now?


I take that as a good sign, because then they won't try to slap a bandaid on what happened to Thane in the Extended Cut.  I prefer it that way.  If several months from now we get the same response, THEN I'll start crying.

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

yamainu1984 wrote...

One more message to punch us in the face (from Keythe's facebook):

Keythe Farley is Thane Krios
For the record, the only recording sessions I had last week were for Nickelodeon and Activision.

May I go and cry now?


I take that as a good sign, because then they won't try to slap a bandaid on what happened to Thane in the Extended Cut.  I prefer it that way.  If several months from now we get the same response, THEN I'll start crying.


Yeah this is true.   We need to give BW some time to come up with an amazing DLC for Thane!  There's still hope!

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BeanieBat wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

yamainu1984 wrote...

One more message to punch us in the face (from Keythe's facebook):

Keythe Farley is Thane Krios
For the record, the only recording sessions I had last week were for Nickelodeon and Activision.

May I go and cry now?


I take that as a good sign, because then they won't try to slap a bandaid on what happened to Thane in the Extended Cut.  I prefer it that way.  If several months from now we get the same response, THEN I'll start crying.


Yeah this is true.   We need to give BW some time to come up with an amazing DLC for Thane!  There's still hope!


I really really hope so. I wish we could get some good news.Image IPB

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JECW wrote...

BeanieBat wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

yamainu1984 wrote...

One more message to punch us in the face (from Keythe's facebook):

Keythe Farley is Thane Krios
For the record, the only recording sessions I had last week were for Nickelodeon and Activision.

May I go and cry now?


I take that as a good sign, because then they won't try to slap a bandaid on what happened to Thane in the Extended Cut.  I prefer it that way.  If several months from now we get the same response, THEN I'll start crying.


Yeah this is true.   We need to give BW some time to come up with an amazing DLC for Thane!  There's still hope!


I really really hope so. I wish we could get some good news.Image IPB


Yeah that's what we finally need: some good news. But you are right girls, I just try to be that positive too, and when I come to think about it: they really wouldn't have been able to do something good in that short time...

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

yamainu1984 wrote...

One more message to punch us in the face (from Keythe's facebook):

Keythe Farley is Thane Krios
For the record, the only recording sessions I had last week were for Nickelodeon and Activision.

May I go and cry now?


I take that as a good sign, because then they won't try to slap a bandaid on what happened to Thane in the Extended Cut.  I prefer it that way.  If several months from now we get the same response, THEN I'll start crying.


Agreed! 

And BW just got tins of M&Ms coloured red, green & blue - glad our book didn't arrive on the same day!

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It's just sad to think about everyone else being able to have their LI in the DLC but us, and I really don't want to get my hopes up for anything only to be let down. I don't know how to take this as a good sign really.

Modifié par JECW, 07 mai 2012 - 07:50 .


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JECW wrote...

It's just sad to think about everyone else being able to have their LI in the DLC but us, and I really don't want to get my hopes up for anything only to be let down. I don't know how to take this as a good sign really.


I know, it sucks.  We don't really know anything about the EC yet, however.  It could be decent, or it could just be more tragedy.  No way to tell.

I actually started playing ME2 again last night.  Even though things suck in ME3, I still really love ME2.  It just feels more polished, better conversations/interactions.  The combat is still pretty fun.  And of course, there's Thane!

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 07 mai 2012 - 08:36 .


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Ok for anyone with twitter!!

I asked @BioEvilChris if they recieved the FemShep Memorial Wall that wildannie did - they have! And his response was ok, but check a response from Phoenix someone asking "what was wrong with Thane's romance, he told you he was dying"

Can't handle this tweet alone - may EXPLODE!!!

#4972
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Aislinn Trista wrote...

JECW wrote...

It's just sad to think about everyone else being able to have their LI in the DLC but us, and I really don't want to get my hopes up for anything only to be let down. I don't know how to take this as a good sign really.


I know, it sucks.  We don't really know anything about the EC yet, however.  It could be decent, or it could just be more tragedy.  No way to tell.

I actually started playing ME2 again last night.  Even though things suck in ME3, I still really love ME2.  It just feels more polished, better conversations/interactions.  The combat is still pretty fun.  And of course, there's Thane!


My feelings swing from positive to negative so much regarding Thane it makes me dizzy.

I was very disheartened by the conversation you had with PW on twitter the other day when he gave the old 'you all knew he was dying' line (I know it was really good of him to talk with you though and that he was not trying to be mean).  What staggers me is that the team don't seem to have considered that having a character that is central to your Shepards story which you care about killed with no chance to change the outcome is really not fun, how could that be fun?  I think that they seriously lost sight of how crucial maintaining the element of fun is for every player.  Obviously the most blatent example of this is the heartless ending.

But I would probably be more worried if they did have Keythe in for the EC as that would imply a quick fix that would undoubtedly not be enough.  I have to admit that I highly doubt that they will deliver a satisfactory fix for Thane, but I'll keep hoping.  

I remember when DA2 came out there were so many fans demanding an apology etc, and while I didn't love it like Origins, I did have fun playing it and didn't think any apology was required as noone was deliberately sidelined.

I actually DO think that BW owe the fans of Thane, and Jacob an apology.  If they had killed Thane off after decent, relevant content with a paramour etc I would not have been happy but I wouldn't feel conned as I do now.

@beaniebat  I'll be posting Thane (or 'the wee man' as my partner calls him) on Wednesday,  Expect him Thursday/Friday  I had hoped to post him tomorrow but I need to get the packaging for him and a disposable camera (if I can find one).  :)

#4973
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Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok for anyone with twitter!!

I asked @BioEvilChris if they recieved the FemShep Memorial Wall that wildannie did - they have! And his response was ok, but check a response from Phoenix someone asking "what was wrong with Thane's romance, he told you he was dying"

Can't handle this tweet alone - may EXPLODE!!!


Unfortunatly I don't have twitter, but I'm so sick of people and their stupid responses. Not one of them did the romance or even talked to Thane so of course they think it was ok. If he wants to know tell him to do the romance and then ask or try an imagine how he would feel if his LI got the kind of treatment Thane did.

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wildannie wrote...

My feelings swing from positive to negative so much regarding Thane it makes me dizzy.

I was very disheartened by the conversation you had with PW on twitter the other day when he gave the old 'you all knew he was dying' line (I know it was really good of him to talk with you though and that he was not trying to be mean).  What staggers me is that the team don't seem to have considered that having a character that is central to your Shepards story which you care about killed with no chance to change the outcome is really not fun, how could that be fun?  I think that they seriously lost sight of how crucial maintaining the element of fun is for every player.  Obviously the most blatent example of this is the heartless ending.

But I would probably be more worried if they did have Keythe in for the EC as that would imply a quick fix that would undoubtedly not be enough.  I have to admit that I highly doubt that they will deliver a satisfactory fix for Thane, but I'll keep hoping.  

I remember when DA2 came out there were so many fans demanding an apology etc, and while I didn't love it like Origins, I did have fun playing it and didn't think any apology was required as noone was deliberately sidelined.

I actually DO think that BW owe the fans of Thane, and Jacob an apology.  If they had killed Thane off after decent, relevant content with a paramour etc I would not have been happy but I wouldn't feel conned as I do now.

@beaniebat  I'll be posting Thane (or 'the wee man' as my partner calls him) on Wednesday,  Expect him Thursday/Friday  I had hoped to post him tomorrow but I need to get the packaging for him and a disposable camera (if I can find one).  :)


That's pretty much the way my feelings go too.
I don't think PW was trying to be mean either. I just don't think he cares. He didn't write Thane, and he knows nothing about him so he doesn't care. I'm not sure he's the one we really should be talking to anymore.
I really don't know if they would do anything to fix what they have done. They definitely owe us an apology, but we will never get one because Bioware thinks they can do no wrong.

#4975
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Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok for anyone with twitter!!

I asked @BioEvilChris if they recieved the FemShep Memorial Wall that wildannie did - they have! And his response was ok, but check a response from Phoenix someone asking "what was wrong with Thane's romance, he told you he was dying"

Can't handle this tweet alone - may EXPLODE!!!


It was nice to see a pic of my 'memorial wall' in the hands of Chris at BW... thanks for chasing it up :D