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mnomaha wrote...

I'm with you Aislinn. I personally can't stand Liara. It may be the bitterness talking, but first she was whiny and clingy, then hateful and they just a nuisance. The Shadow Broker should be out broking shadows and not on my damn ship. But again, that's just me. Having said that, I would have preferred Feron. I'm assuming he could at least shoot a gun...


It's not just you. I've always been pretty indifferent about Liara, but I hate how she gets better treatment above everyone. She is still the only one who can not die. I thought it was a complete waste of time making her the Shadow Broker just to turn around and then put her on the ship.

I did find that I liked Samara a lot better. I guess Bioware can't have two Asari in the game. Especially if they take attention away from Liara.
 
I still hate that comment Liara made about Thane in LotSB.

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I liked Samara better too. It was mostly her age and maturity and well, she didn't fall at my Shep's feet and start worshiping Shep within moments of getting on my ship. Can't tell you how much I hate that crap, "Oh Shep, you are GOD!!!!" Stop licking my boots, fools. Drooling is ok, just be silent about it and I don't want to see it.

Oh speaking of Feron, I wrote a Javik Troll on him not too long ago.

Javik and Rainbows.....

Javik: What is this? Another Drell!! Who are you?
Feron: I am Feron and you must be Javik.
Javik: Yes I am. Why are you here? This place seems to be a gathering place for drell.
Feron: I am here until Liara finds another place for my operations. Cerberus stormed my last location.
Javik: Another drell coming in and out of Liara's room. That Asari seems to like them, she's as bad as the Commander.
Feron: Why do you say it like that? There is nothing going on with Liara and I.
Javik: You say that without conviction Rainbow Bright.
Feron: What did you call me?
Javik: You heard me, are all drell hard of hearing? I am sensing you have strong feelings for that Asari. You will have competition.
Feron: I heard you fine, why did you call me that? Liara is a friend, nothing more. Why am I explaining myself to you?
Javik: Rainbow Bright, character from the 20th Century, very colorful. How do you know the Asari?
Feron: We have known each other for years. We worked together to recover Shepard's body.
Javik: Oh you are the pathetic drell who got captured by the Yahg. So, you were in a way Shepard's savior?
Feron: I wouldn't say that.
Javik: So tell me Rainbow, did the Commander have that other drell with her when she rescued you?
Feron: Which drell? Thane? Yes he was there.
Javik: I bet it excited you to see another drell. Did you think he was that Asari's new lover? Replacing you after you captured?
Feron: Liara and I were never lovers. I did not think he was with Liara in that way, regardless.
Javik: Why not? You are a drell, she has a new drell with her. One could logically conclude you had been replaced.
Feron: I may have been tortured for two years, a bit confused, and weakened but it was obvious to even me that Thane had something going on with the Commander.
Javik: Interesting. You could sense that? You did not even know them. How did you know?
Feron: Are you always this full of questions?
Javik: I am merely curious about this cycle's species and thoughts. Answer the question, Rainbow.
Feron: Are you going to keep calling me that?
Javik: Do not ignore my questions and yes I will.
Feron: While they were talking to me, it was obvious the way he looked at her, her at him. He stood beside her in an overly protective way. Is that satisfactory for you?
Javik: I sensed sarcasm in that question, do not toy with me Rainbow. Perhaps he sensed that she would feel sorry for you, realize you were healthier and leave him behind.
Feron: I don't think so. I am beginning to believe you do not like Thane.
Javik: I'm not fond of him, he is an irritation and remarkably idiotic. So you work with the Asari? Gathering information? Running errands?
Feron: Basically, I'm considered an operative.
Javik: One must have some intelligence to do such work. Can you fire a weapon? Fight? Good in combat?
Feron: I am skilled in those areas yes and yes one has to have some intelligence.
Javik: You are very unpleasing to look at with all those colors, it's distracting but you could be a better asset on this ship than that other drell.
Feron: No, I don't think so. I'm aware of what he's capable of, he is one of the if not the most skilled assassin in the galaxy.
Javik: You don't say, too bad great combat does not equate great intelligence. He is a complete moron.
Feron: Does the Commander know you speak of him this way? She must not be pleased if she does.
Javik: She knows how I feel about him. He killed his wife, abandoned his son and has impregnated the Commander. He will probably be the death of her, abandon the mutant drell and move along to another female.
Feron: He didn't kill his wife. I don't think he will leave her.
Javik: You have more faith in him that I do. You are foolish to trust that drell as is the Commander. Do you have any sad tales about your life? Any regrets? Any reason to break down and cry?
Feron: What kind of questions are those? No, I do not.
Javik: Everyone does especially drell I've noticed. If you do, go see the Commander. She's good at easing people's pain.
Feron: Uh, thanks for advice, I think.
Javik: Do not thank me just yet, you can do that after you spill your guts to the Commander.
Feron: I have no reason too and why would I be thanking you after if I did?
Javik: She likes to comfort sad drell with sex. From what the idiot Drell has relayed, it's quite satisfying.
Feron: Are you suggesting I try to sleep with her? Why would I do that?
Javik: You are a man, are you not? If you are not getting any from the Asari, why not the Commander? Go show her how grateful you are for saving you from the yahg.
Feron: I am not going to do that! She's in love with Thane. Are you crazy?
Javik: So the only reason you will not do that is because of the other drell. So you have thought of her in that way?
Feron: I did not say that.
Javik: You just said you would not try to have sex with the Commander because she is in love with the other drell. Which means you would if she were not, therefore you must be attracted to her.
Thane: ????
Javik: (walks away laughing)

And the other drell coming in and out of Liara's room is Kolyat...not what you are thinking, he's just a bit lonely and looking for a friend and well, he tries to hide from Javik.

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Tink Krios

I died

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mnomaha

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Yes, Tink. I used it in another thread as well with full props to Coldi.

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RShara wrote...

Tink Krios

I died


Yeah Tink Krios is my MP character, he is a BAD fighter.  Oh lord he ends up face down, azz up more than anything but I have fun watching him go down.  Sometimes I play games with him, see how long it takes him to die, trying to get him killed in record time.  Needless to say, I have not ever played a serious MP match and never intend to do so.  He will never be recruited to the SP campaign as he will never be that good.  

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Oh, wait, maybe it was utaker...*runs off to fix props* Sorry guys, i'm supposed to be at work...working. :)

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@JECW what comment did Liara make about Thane in LotSB? I don't know if I've heard it before.

Also it may be just the bitterness, but I highly doubt it, I hate Liara. I replayed ME1 a sh!t load before ME3 came out, and I kept scratching my head as to what in the hell made me pick Liara as my LI in ME1 and stick with her.

Only thing I can figure is that back in 2007, I was still in high school and the idea of banging a blue alien chick in a video game just overwhelmed me and I had to bang Liara. God I was so stupid back than.

When I replayed ME1 talking with Liara was well she was so freaking anoying with how she talked and acted in the game. "Commander maybe we should join our minds right now after you rescued me. Oh whiny that was easting, oh by the goddess"

Kaidan "Maybe Dr. Chakwas should take a look at you"
and than after Feros Liara "Commander we need to join our minds. I can tell you what you saw. Ohh by the goddess I don't know what you saw. By the goddess I am worn out"
Kaidan: "Maybe Dr Chakwas should take a look at you"

After Noveria Liara "By the goddess I may need to join our minds again Commander. Oh by the Goddess what did I learn nothing. Oh by the goddess I'm worn out"
Kaidan "Maybe Dr. Chakwas should take a look at you"

After Virmire Liara "by the goddess Commander I need to join our minds and maybe I can figure something out this time. By the goddess the imagines were vivid and I'm exhausted"
Ashley "Come spit it out did you learn anything or not."
Liara "By the goddess Ilios the beacon is on Illios"

Than ME2 Liara turns into a crazy nut case, I'm sure it had something to do with being a virgin and than melding all those times with Shepard, she was raping the Commander, than when Shep died she went nuts because she didn't have anyone to rape any more.

ME3 Liara turns into a weird creepy stalker who's trying to rape Shepard some more. Yeah the only reason I banged her to begin with had to be because I was a horny highschooler.

Oh and did you all know that if you take Liara on the run to the Citadel beam she can get blown up? I took her with on my first playthrough along with Garrus both got blown up and I saw their dead bodies in giant pools of their own blood. But then at the end Liara walked off the ship with Joker, and EDI. WTF? She comes back to life.

Oh and @Utaker, that dialogue it's great I was laughing my @ss off at it. And the Mordin and Joker one the other day, that was great too,

I never could stand Tali because of her voice and how she acted like Shep was a god, not even when I was a horny high schooler who went with Liara because he wanted to bang a space chick in a video game. Nope Tali was just as irritating than as she is now, maybe less so now. However Tali already has a bucket on her head she don't need the paper bag.

Tink Krios LOL.

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gearseffect wrote...

@JECW what comment did Liara make about Thane in LotSB? I don't know if I've heard it before.


I'm sure you have heard it.
It's just a comment she made to Shepard if you left her for Thane. She tells Shepard she's trying to take the place of a dying man's wife.
She makes comments about all the other LI's if she is left for them, but her comments about the others were actually funny. The one about Thane seemed cruel.

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WTF? No I' haven't heard that one, I know heard the one about Miranda and her low cut jumpsuit I'll have to go and look them all up on you tube now.

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@gearseffect
Ok
That's what she says about Thane. I remember the one about Miranda's low cut jumpsuit, and she calles Jack a tattooed woman with anger issues. I can't remember what she says about Tali, Garrus or Jacob.

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JECW wrote...

@gearseffect
Ok
That's what she says about Thane. I remember the one about Miranda's low cut jumpsuit, and she calles Jack a tattooed woman with anger issues. I can't remember what she says about Tali, Garrus or Jacob.


I just youtubed 'em she says about Jacob "And now your only interested in seeing Jacob without his shirt"
About Garrus "And Now Garrus is calibrating more than the Normandy's weapons"
About Tali "And Now your trying to get inside Tali's mask"

I also Youtubed the Thane one and I wanted a renegade or paragon Interupt to b!tch slap Liara.

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Squeegee83 wrote...

ShadyGerbilz wrote...

For my fellow Thanemancers: This will probably ruin your day, but I thought I'd share anyway. :crying: My apologizes.
Its from Patrick weekes Via Twitter...

24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k4zw70ql1r292pho1_500.png


To be honest, they do not have my sympathy. Not even a little. They put most of us through a nightmare. Heck, I still feel like I am living in one. The poster I am working on is a nightmare, but it's completely worth it. Thane is worth every moment of it.

They messed it up.. so they should fix it. Unless they think it's okay to continue hurting their fans. I'll be sure to use the word "nightmare" in my letter to Bioware.

That's all I got to say about that. <_< <fan rage moment>



"nightmare" is what they already did with thane."nightmare" is ignorring their supporters wishes
-WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY- come on Bioware!!!:ph34r:

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DineBoo wrote...

I'm tired of the excuse "Well, you knew Thane could die". Yeah, he could. But that doesn't mean you could butcher and forget about his romance! Why offer him as choice (along with Jacob) if you're just going to comeback and say "You knew what you were getting into! So sorry, we're going to take away your romance!"

So he's terminal. He'll possibly die. So what? femShep could go into shock just by "ingesting" parts of Garrus *cough*. Doesn't mean that's an excuse to butcher Garrus' romance. Liara could live on without you. Let's butcher her romance too.

If he died toward the end of ME3 after having nice bittersweet romance with him, I'm sure you guys would be mostly fine. Sad, but okay/satisfied.

However, they dangled cure bait in front of your noses. And promised everyone a nice conclusion.

In any case, Thane was grossly mishandled and there is no excuse for:
-Forced death, while Miranda's could be avoided.
-Thane dying off screen if you didn't talk to him (WTF?)
-Thane mostly talking about the VS in your one and only conversation with him.
-His death was too dang early in the game
-His death was forgotten about.

And so on. Just because Thane was terminal does not excuse shoddy writing for him.


well i think i couldnt  have said it better myself...exactly my thoughts...I mean in the worst possible scenario let him die at the end of this f&$%$E up  game...but let me have him during the game. .the ending  didnt make sense  anyway.so add thanes death too if you want to kill him that bad.My god i felt like a ****  talking to him in me3(after all the poetic and beautiful conversations my femshep had with him in me2) ..i "i've got a few free moments..WTF BIOWARE ????   
PS...and where is the private moments????

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utaker1988 wrote...


Oh speaking of Feron, I wrote a Javik Troll on him not too long ago.

<snip>

Javik: You just said you would not try to have sex with the Commander because she is in love with the other drell. Which means you would if she were not, therefore you must be attracted to her.
Thane: ????
Javik: (walks away laughing)

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Hahaha!

Oh dear.....awkward moment....What will Thane say?

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Emeraldfern wrote...

I remember what he said and yeah it still stings....

"Thane and Zaeed will be doing something fitting for their characters"
Gnn....So Thane dying was fitting. Thanks. Image IPB

Because apparantely there was nothing else that was interesting about Thane....Image IPB


Erh...Zaeed kind of died in my playthrough as well, sigh-not that I minded all that terribly much, mind you,though I'd have liked him on my squad, but reading this just now made me wince!Image IPB Fitting for their characters, indeed; as if either Zaeed or Thane were that easy to kill!!Image IPB

And it's exactly those kinds of comments BW should have used their PR people to keep them from making!Image IPB

So excited to read a page back that the Memorial Wall reached BW; now, to send them more-and we are, hehe!Image IPB

Utaker...Javik is being such a terrible, terrible pest, loool; just spluttered some of my iced tea on my keyboard reading!!Image IPB

But I worry...for Feron!!Image IPB

PS: Updated my fic, both at DA and Fanfiction.net, though DA is gettign another update later on, it's one chapter behind!
http://www.fanfictio...7/7/Deliverance

Modifié par Hisilome, 08 mai 2012 - 01:44 .


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I think the problem is, that new writers taking on some of the characters didn't quite understand said characters. We seemed to have had this happen with most of the ME2 squad...

It also explains why some (or all) of their dialogue seems so off from what they had in the previous game.

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 08 mai 2012 - 02:47 .


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Aislinn Trista wrote...

I think the problem is, that new writers taking on some of the characters didn't quite understand said characters. We seemed to have had this happen with most of the ME2 squad...

It also explains why some (or all) of their dialogue seems so off from what they had in the previous game.


But surely if you were hired to write for a character that you didn't create you'd research them? Maybe talk to their creator? Play the freakin' game? See what the fan's impression's are? (It's not like there's hundred's of pages worth of thread devoted to that one chracter!!!!!)

But noooooooooo, that would be the action of someone with half a bloody brain cell! Swear to the God's, Urz the Varren could've done it better. By writing with drool.

I am really not happy ATM, can you tell? Image IPB

Edit.
Ugh, I'm going to bed before I do something I might regret, night all. Image IPB Dream of Drell Donuts.....Image IPB (Damn you Utaker!)

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JECW wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

@JECW what comment did Liara make about Thane in LotSB? I don't know if I've heard it before.


I'm sure you have heard it.
It's just a comment she made to Shepard if you left her for Thane. She tells Shepard she's trying to take the place of a dying man's wife.
She makes comments about all the other LI's if she is left for them, but her comments about the others were actually funny. The one about Thane seemed cruel.


oooh this comment...i was so shocked when i heard it and thane was just beside...oooh i want to punch her for that. it really seemed cruel, especially in german..it sounded bitter like: why was i left for THIS?
and me just: >.<

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Another poll people!!

http://social.biowar...5&poll_id=33501

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 08 mai 2012 - 03:25 .


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Found this on the LIA: Tribute Thread (Thanks to Vertigo_1 for sharing this on the LIA thread):

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/199909236610838528

"To all who contributed to ME Relationship Book, thank you. We are listening. (ME3 Edmonton writers) pic.twitter.com/TsJjSmkw"

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/I really hope they do.....

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I just posted on the original PAX thread AND Thane's thread as well! It's a good sign!

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I've been a ghost in the forums lately but I wanted to share something I just finished a few days ago. My Shep and our favorite Drell. <3

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I originally started it to contribute to the Tribute book and to the Thane fanbook but thanks to a turbulent couple of weeks in real life I didn't finish it in time and missed both the deadlines. :(

I still wanted to share it with you guys though.

Modifié par sydzilla, 08 mai 2012 - 09:20 .


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sydzilla wrote...

I've been a ghost in the forums lately but I wanted to share something I just finished a few days ago. My Shep and our favorite Drell. <3

Image IPB

I originally started it to contribute to the Tribute book and to the Thane fanbook but thanks to a turbulent couple of weeks in real life I didn't finish it in time and missed both the deadlines. :(

I still wanted to share it with you guys though.



WaowImage IPB

Thanks  for sharing this it is very nicely done! WOuld  you mind if I copy  it on my computer for    my screensaver ?



(P.S. where is his hand ? Image IPB

Modifié par Saodade, 08 mai 2012 - 09:26 .


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Pssst, I'm at work but here's a good thread.

http://social.biowar...5689/4#11941996

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@sydzilla

Beautiful piece! Image IPB



BTW. I started a thread for sharing our fancreations featuring Thane here:
http://social.biowar...2788/1#11942851
So fan-creators feel free to join in!Image IPB