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[DiebytheSword]

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

wildannie wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I did my first playthrough as a FemShep that nearly gave up on Kaidan for Thane. I was not dissapointed, his final gesture was so thoughtful and touching it nearly made me get my mongolian archer/thief sidekick to cry for me. Seriously, the character says he's dying right when you meet him, I had no expectations of him other than a dignified death in ME3. He stopped Kai Leng, he gave his life to save another, a final act of redemption for his battered soul. Then he prayed for my Shepard, and I'm alright with that.

So you're not bothered that none of sheps friends gave any words of condolence when her lover died? and your not bothered that BW teased the fans with potential treatments and cures and never delivered on these?  

Okay... to each their own

I can agree with that, condolences are given for the other losses.  As for a cure?  For real?  Cures for cancer are teased monthly, and people still die from them by the truckload.  You are not promised a tomorrrow, neither was Thane.

My point is that his death was fine within the context of the character, he died doing one last good deed.  His death was poignant, and the parting scene with Thane surrounded by those he loved is what would have been important to him, not what platitudes you recieved after he was gone.

Have you not yet read the first post of this topic???

That first post has exactly zero relevance to mine.  I offered my opinion on his death, which you clearly disagree with.

OP has nothing to do with me, or my opinion on the matter.

Then why are you even in this topic if you don't agree with anyone here?

Isn't the point of a discussion board to discuss?  Or do you want an echo chamber all to yourselves?

[DiebytheSword]

Cosmochyck wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I did my first playthrough as a FemShep that nearly gave up on Kaidan for Thane. I was not dissapointed, his final gesture was so thoughtful and touching it nearly made me get my mongolian archer/thief sidekick to cry for me. Seriously, the character says he's dying right when you meet him, I had no expectations of him other than a dignified death in ME3. He stopped Kai Leng, he gave his life to save another, a final act of redemption for his battered soul. Then he prayed for my Shepard, and I'm alright with that.

He prayed for EVERY Shepard.  Including the romanced one.  NOT special dialogue, not unique, just cookie cutter for all Sheps.  FAIL.

So his love or companionship was (or should have been) conditional on returns?  Wow.  I'm touched by the gesture, you're upset that you didn't get something more.

I agree that the gesture and sentiment were lovely - but I somehow thought that BW would at least have changed up SOME of the dialogue etc. for a romanced Thane.  Just disappointed. 
I enjoyed his fighting KL for sure, and showing what a BAMF he is - even in his weakened state. 

All I'm saying is that I felt it was enough for me, and I did have some emotional investment in that character.  Sure, I see how it could have been better, but nothing is ever perfect, and then the debate becomes whether or not we recieved enough.

I feel I did.

[Julia_xo]

Visii wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Alknost wrote...

I just saw this clip of Shepard (male-shep) confronting Ash (romanced, but dumped in ME2 for Miranda). Notice the dialog- in this scenario you get to confront the VS, declare that the relationship was over when they walked out on you on Horizon and this is why your shep moved on...



WHY are there not similar dialog options for a femshep/Thane/Kaidan triangle? Lots of Thanemancers dumped the ME1 LI for similar reasons, so why aren't these options avialable?

Yeah I know! The only thing kaidan says is, "I've heard something about you and some assassin" Then you can reply, sorry, and he's like, oh yeah whatever I still love you bla bla bla...not very interesting. 
Then the next time you talk about it Thane is already dead so you can choose to stay with him or not, but all I want is THANE!!!!! 

Right! I wanted to tell him, I'm With Thane damn you!

I'm also curious as to how Kaidan/Ashley found out about Jack/Thane/Jacob, etc... I mean really, how did they find out? Liara?

Apparently, if you lie, Kaidan gets angry and says 'everybody knows'. I can only assume it was gossip among the crew and the gossip reached Kaidan at some point. Same with Ash.

I got the distinct impression the game was trying to push my Shepard back to Kaidan, which is annoying.

Exhibit A: She gets emotional over Kaidan getting hurt on Mars.
Exhibit B: She tells Thane she's at the hospital to visit Kaidan and there's no way to say she's there for Thane.
Exhibit C: Thane talks about protecting Kaidan  for her and there's no choice to tell him he doesn't need to do that.

The game just assumes the VS is some super important person to Shepard which is incredibly irritating. I have nothing against Kaidan or Ashley but neither of them are more important to my Shep than Thane. :/

It's almost like the game assumes the relationship with Thane was a fling but It wasn't to my Shep. She really loves Thane, damnit. D:

Modifié par Julia_xo, 14 mars 2012 - 04:56 .

[thejoyrider]

The foundation of this particular discussion are the points made in post #1 of this thread. If you choose to disregard/ignore that post then you are failing to actively engage in the actual discussion at hand.

[EvanesceKunoichi]

DiebytheSword wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

wildannie wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I did my first playthrough as a FemShep that nearly gave up on Kaidan for Thane. I was not dissapointed, his final gesture was so thoughtful and touching it nearly made me get my mongolian archer/thief sidekick to cry for me. Seriously, the character says he's dying right when you meet him, I had no expectations of him other than a dignified death in ME3. He stopped Kai Leng, he gave his life to save another, a final act of redemption for his battered soul. Then he prayed for my Shepard, and I'm alright with that.

So you're not bothered that none of sheps friends gave any words of condolence when her lover died? and your not bothered that BW teased the fans with potential treatments and cures and never delivered on these?  

Okay... to each their own

I can agree with that, condolences are given for the other losses.  As for a cure?  For real?  Cures for cancer are teased monthly, and people still die from them by the truckload.  You are not promised a tomorrrow, neither was Thane.

My point is that his death was fine within the context of the character, he died doing one last good deed.  His death was poignant, and the parting scene with Thane surrounded by those he loved is what would have been important to him, not what platitudes you recieved after he was gone.

Have you not yet read the first post of this topic???

That first post has exactly zero relevance to mine.  I offered my opinion on his death, which you clearly disagree with.

OP has nothing to do with me, or my opinion on the matter.

Then why are you even in this topic if you don't agree with anyone here?

Isn't the point of a discussion board to discuss?  Or do you want an echo chamber all to yourselves?

Yes of course, but you seem to be getting a bit snarky at people who disagree with you, (I guess your Krogan avatar is fitting ;D) Sorry I'm just saying please be a bit more kind with your words, and if we disagree so be it, like you said you've already voiced your opinion. 

[DiebytheSword]

thejoyrider wrote...

The foundation of this particular discussion are the points made in post #1 of this thread. If you choose to disregard/ignore that post then you are failing to actively engage in the actual discussion at hand.

I'll tell you what, I'll go back and quote that post and address every point in it and still have the opinion I posted.  It will serve no purpose, and it will have the same outcome and you'll need to find another reason for me to leave, but I'll do it to if for nothing else than to stop that from being posted in the future.

Sadly, break is over, and I have other things to do.

If you chose to disregard/ignore my opinion on why I think his romance wansn't really poorly treated, then that's your problem.  Feel free to report my post, I was on topic and people reminding me to read the op or complaining that my opinion differs from theirs without actually posting something of value is decidedly not topical.

Getting me to leave because you don't like what I have to say is not of value.

[thejoyrider]

Who said anything about getting you to leave? Your posts are weird.

[DiebytheSword]

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Yes of course, but you seem to be getting a bit snarky at people who disagree with you, (I guess your Krogan avatar is fitting ;D) Sorry I'm just saying please be a bit more kind with your words, and if we disagree so be it, like you said you've already voiced your opinion. 

Only after it was suggested multiple times that I did not read OP or thinly suggested that I leave did I adopt a defensive stance, re-read my first two posts and kindly point out where I was snarky.

Heh, I hope you aren't reading my posts in Wrex's voice.  That's not my intent at all.

I'll state it again:

I didn't feel that the character was disserviced, at all, by his treatment in ME3.  Regardless of your relationship with him, he held the deepest respect and/or love for your charatcter.

Modifié par DiebytheSword, 14 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[DiebytheSword]

thejoyrider wrote...

Who said anything about getting you to leave? Your posts are weird.

That was more of a blanket statement and not aimed at you, can we please stay on topic now?

[Visii]

DiebytheSword wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Yes of course, but you seem to be getting a bit snarky at people who disagree with you, (I guess your Krogan avatar is fitting ;D) Sorry I'm just saying please be a bit more kind with your words, and if we disagree so be it, like you said you've already voiced your opinion. 

Only after it was suggested multiple times that I did not read OP or thinly suggested that I leave did I adopt a defensive stance, re-read my first two posts and kindly point out where I was snarky.

Heh, I hope you aren't reading my posts in Wrex's voice.  That's not my intent at all.

I'll state it again:

I didn't feel that the character was disserviced, at all, by his treatment in ME3.  Regardless of your relationship with him, he held the deepest respect and/or love for your charatcter.

Too bad it wasn't shown as love, especially for Shepards that romanced him.

[thejoyrider]

DiebytheSword wrote...


That was more of a blanket statement and not aimed at you, can we please stay on topic now?

Haha we all were on topic until you showed up and said you didn't care about any of the points but still expected all of us to care about your opinion? Like I said- weird.

Modifié par thejoyrider, 14 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[EvanesceKunoichi]

Julia_xo wrote...

Visii wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Alknost wrote...

I just saw this clip of Shepard (male-shep) confronting Ash (romanced, but dumped in ME2 for Miranda). Notice the dialog- in this scenario you get to confront the VS, declare that the relationship was over when they walked out on you on Horizon and this is why your shep moved on...



WHY are there not similar dialog options for a femshep/Thane/Kaidan triangle? Lots of Thanemancers dumped the ME1 LI for similar reasons, so why aren't these options avialable?

Yeah I know! The only thing kaidan says is, "I've heard something about you and some assassin" Then you can reply, sorry, and he's like, oh yeah whatever I still love you bla bla bla...not very interesting. 
Then the next time you talk about it Thane is already dead so you can choose to stay with him or not, but all I want is THANE!!!!! 

Right! I wanted to tell him, I'm With Thane damn you!

I'm also curious as to how Kaidan/Ashley found out about Jack/Thane/Jacob, etc... I mean really, how did they find out? Liara?

Apparently, if you lie, Kaidan gets angry and says 'everybody knows'. I can only assume it was gossip among the crew and the gossip reached Kaidan at some point. Same with Ash.

I got the distinct impression the game was trying to push my Shepard back to Kaidan, which is annoying.

Exhibit A: She gets emotional over Kaidan getting hurt on Mars.
Exhibit B: She tells Thane she's at the hospital to visit Kaidan and there's no way to say she's there for Thane.
Exhibit C: Thane talks about protecting Kaidan  for her and there's no choice to tell him he doesn't need to do that.

The game just assumes the VS is some super important person to Shepard which is incredibly irritating. I have nothing against Kaidan or Ashley but neither of them are more important to my Shep than Thane. :/

It's almost like the game assumes the relationship with Thane was a fling but It wasn't to my Shep. She really loves Thane, damnit. D:

Exactly! I hate that they made Kaidan/Ashley superior to the other LI's. 
On another note on how Kaidan found out about Thane, maybe when they met at Memorial hospital Thane went into one of those drell memory things and reminisced about the night him and shepard spent together before the suicide mission. xD

Modifié par EvanesceKunoichi, 14 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[thejoyrider]

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

On another note on how Kaidan found out about Thane, maybe when they met at Memorial hospital Thane went into one of those drell memory things and reminisced about the night him and shepard spent together before the suicide mission. xD

Ha! 

Related to that, I'm so bummed we didn't get any Drell flashbacks at all. Especially since one (really good one) was originally in the leaked script.

Who knew the actual game would be so bad that people would be wishing  it was more like that dang unfinished script?

[RShara]

[quote]DiebytheSword wrote...

[quote]Cosmochyck wrote...

[quote]DiebytheSword wrote...

[quote]Cosmochyck wrote...

[quote]DiebytheSword wrote...

I did my first playthrough as a FemShep that nearly gave up on Kaidan for Thane. I was not dissapointed, his final gesture was so thoughtful and touching it nearly made me get my mongolian archer/thief sidekick to cry for me. Seriously, the character says he's dying right when you meet him, I had no expectations of him other than a dignified death in ME3. He stopped Kai Leng, he gave his life to save another, a final act of redemption for his battered soul. Then he prayed for my Shepard, and I'm alright with that.[/quote]

He prayed for EVERY Shepard.  Including the romanced one.  NOT special dialogue, not unique, just cookie cutter for all Sheps.  FAIL.
[/quote]

So his love or companionship was (or should have been) conditional on returns?  Wow.  I'm touched by the gesture, you're upset that you didn't get something more.[/quote]

I agree that the gesture and sentiment were lovely - but I somehow thought that BW would at least have changed up SOME of the dialogue etc. for a romanced Thane.  Just disappointed. 
I enjoyed his fighting KL for sure, and showing what a BAMF he is - even in his weakened state. 

[/quote]

All I'm saying is that I felt it was enough for me, and I did have some emotional investment in that character.  Sure, I see how it could have been better, but nothing is ever perfect, and then the debate becomes whether or not we recieved enough.

I feel I did.[/quote]

I'm glad that you think so and I understand this thread is very long with many long posts.  So here is my tl;dr

[quote]RShara wrote...

To summarize for those who haven't read through our very long posts

It's not the fact that he dies. It's the reaction to that death that is pissing us off.
Nearly identical dialogue (regardless of whether you romanced him or not), and no reaction from crewmates.

Do we want an option for him to live? Many of us do. But we accept that
probably isn't possible at this point. We've been defeated and have
fallen back to our minimum line of retreat: Have Shepard gd react to
the death of a lover.[/quote]

[/quote]

[Julia_xo]

DiebytheSword wrote...
I didn't feel that the character was disserviced, at all, by his treatment in ME3.  Regardless of your relationship with him, he held the deepest respect and/or love for your charatcter.

What about Shepard's feelings for him (if romanced)? She has no option to tell him she loves him or that he's an imporrtant person to her. He was someone my Shepard loved deeply and the game doesn't express this. At all.

I'm curious, did you actually try the romance? What makes you think it was well done considering there's practically no difference to the scenes whether a romance with him is active or not?

Why give us the option to romance him at all if they were going to barely acknowledge it the way they did? I really don't understand that.

Modifié par Julia_xo, 14 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[EvanesceKunoichi]

thejoyrider wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

On another note on how Kaidan found out about Thane, maybe when they met at Memorial hospital Thane went into one of those drell memory things and reminisced about the night him and shepard spent together before the suicide mission. xD

Ha! 

Related to that, I'm so bummed we didn't get any Drell flashbacks at all. Especially since one (really good one) was originally in the leaked script.

Who knew the actual game would be so bad that people would be wishing  it was more like that dang unfinished script?

Me too, I love the drell flashbacks, and we didn't even get one! 
And seriously, I'm wishing they stuck to the original plan right about now.

[Strategic SHE]

 I think the poor treatment of Thane represents an appalling treatment overall of romance options in ME3. This was perhaps the strongest area of the prior games in the franchise. And, no, this has nothing to do with same sex options - I am 100% in support of those. 

But the imported romances from ME2 are treated flippantly without depth. Then there is the annoyance of James Vega, who flirts at you but then you can't romance him - seriously. 

It shows a real disregard for those of us who put as much, if not more, stock in the romantic ending versus the game ending. I was very disappointed.

that having been said, I think Bioware has an opportunity to make a lot of money by offering DLC with full romance options for these disregarded romances. I would happily pay $10 a pop to add a mission and unlocked romance (at the level of the Kaiden/Ashley or Liara romances) of additional characters. 

[thejoyrider]

Strategic SHE wrote...

 I think the poor treatment of Thane represents an appalling treatment overall of romance options in ME3. This was perhaps the strongest area of the prior games in the franchise. And, no, this has nothing to do with same sex options - I am 100% in support of those. 

But the imported romances from ME2 are treated flippantly without depth. Then there is the annoyance of James Vega, who flirts at you but then you can't romance him - seriously. 

It shows a real disregard for those of us who put as much, if not more, stock in the romantic ending versus the game ending. I was very disappointed.

that having been said, I think Bioware has an opportunity to make a lot of money by offering DLC with full romance options for these disregarded romances. I would happily pay $10 a pop to add a mission and unlocked romance (at the level of the Kaiden/Ashley or Liara romances) of additional characters. 

Absolutely agree! While this thread is about Thane, I wholeheartedly agree that overall fans of ME2 characters got massively shafted in this game and it's such a disappointment. Why bother going through the trouble to create and develop all these characters if ultimately they didn't matter in the grand scheme of the story? It leaves one feeling very much like they had the rug pulled out from under them.

Modifié par thejoyrider, 14 mars 2012 - 05:26 .

[JECW]

Julia_xo wrote...

Visii wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Alknost wrote...

I just saw this clip of Shepard (male-shep) confronting Ash (romanced, but dumped in ME2 for Miranda). Notice the dialog- in this scenario you get to confront the VS, declare that the relationship was over when they walked out on you on Horizon and this is why your shep moved on...



WHY are there not similar dialog options for a femshep/Thane/Kaidan triangle? Lots of Thanemancers dumped the ME1 LI for similar reasons, so why aren't these options avialable?

Yeah I know! The only thing kaidan says is, "I've heard something about you and some assassin" Then you can reply, sorry, and he's like, oh yeah whatever I still love you bla bla bla...not very interesting. 
Then the next time you talk about it Thane is already dead so you can choose to stay with him or not, but all I want is THANE!!!!! 

Right! I wanted to tell him, I'm With Thane damn you!

I'm also curious as to how Kaidan/Ashley found out about Jack/Thane/Jacob, etc... I mean really, how did they find out? Liara?

Apparently, if you lie, Kaidan gets angry and says 'everybody knows'. I can only assume it was gossip among the crew and the gossip reached Kaidan at some point. Same with Ash.

I got the distinct impression the game was trying to push my Shepard back to Kaidan, which is annoying.

Exhibit A: She gets emotional over Kaidan getting hurt on Mars.
Exhibit B: She tells Thane she's at the hospital to visit Kaidan and there's no way to say she's there for Thane.
Exhibit C: Thane talks about protecting Kaidan  for her and there's no choice to tell him he doesn't need to do that.

The game just assumes the VS is some super important person to Shepard which is incredibly irritating. I have nothing against Kaidan or Ashley but neither of them are more important to my Shep than Thane. :/

It's almost like the game assumes the relationship with Thane was a fling but It wasn't to my Shep. She really loves Thane, damnit. D:

That's the impression I got as well, and it makes no sense. Why would you get so emotional over a man you haven't seen in two years. Then the next time you do see him he turns his back on you.
If you romanced him that's fine, but if you didn't  then Shepard really shouldn't have been that emotional.

[utaker1988]

JECW wrote...


That's the impression I got as well, and it makes no sense. Why would you get so emotional over a man you haven't seen in two years. Then the next time you do see him he turns his back on you.
If you romanced him that's fine, but if you didn't  then Shepard really shouldn't have been that emotional.

I was irate when I figured out that they were trying to shove Kaidan in my face and have me appear emotional over him.  Why should I be?  I wasn't nice to him when he first showed up on Earth.  On Mars, he starts needling me about Cerberus even Vega had to point out that I had been detained and watched over so there was no way I was in contact with Cerberus.  In the hospital, after how rude and short I'd been with him, he has the gall to ask about "some assassin"....I felt he had no right too.  Not at that point.  Then the response if you tell the truth.  It almost sounds like she's apologizing for it.  "Well, after Horizon...."   WTF?  That is not what happened in my case.  Shep didn't jump into bed with Thane because Kaidan was a douche on Horizon.  Then the whole, "I was here to see Kaidan", NO I was not.  I came because I got your message and I'm here to see you (Thane), not Mr. Needles who can't stop riding my ass about everything.  

Then I clearly choose Thane and the game acts like I didn't choose at all.  I cried.  She didn't even get to tell him she loved him.  It breaks my heart.

Modifié par utaker1988, 14 mars 2012 - 05:49 .

[Cosmochyck]

utaker1988 wrote...

JECW wrote...


That's the impression I got as well, and it makes no sense. Why would you get so emotional over a man you haven't seen in two years. Then the next time you do see him he turns his back on you.
If you romanced him that's fine, but if you didn't  then Shepard really shouldn't have been that emotional.

I was irate when I figured out that they were trying to shove Kaidan in my face and have me appear emotional over him.  Why should I be?  He left a bad taste in my  mouth on Horizon.  I wasn't nice to him when he first showed up on Earth.  On Mars, he starts needling me about Cerberus even Vega had to point out that I had been detained and watched over so there was no way I was in contact with Cerberus.  In the hospital, after how rude and short I'd been with him, he has the gall to ask about "some assassin"....I felt he had no right too.  Not at that point.  Then the response if you tell the truth.  It almost sounds like she's apologizing for it.  "Well, after Horizon...."   WTF?  That is not what happened in my case.  Shep didn't jump into bed with Thane because Kaidan was a douche on Horizon.  Then the whole, "I was here to see Kaidan", NO I was not.  I came because I got your message and I'm here to see you (Thane), not Mr. Needles who can't stop riding my ass about everything.  

Then I clearly choose Thane and the game acts like I didn't choose at all.  I cried.  She didn't even get to tell him she loved him.  It breaks my heart.

ALL OF THIS!!  I didn't even import any ME1 romances when I romanced Thane - they were all clean from ME2.  Why is my Shep there to see Kaidan???  Sure, he's a good soldier but he never meant more than that.  And I don't even get a CHOICE to say that!!

If I play my renegade Shep that romanced Thane, perhaps I can pretend there is a renegade interrupt that kills Kaidan in the hospital   Then no more Mr. "trying to get into my pants" Alenko.

[mnomaha]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Went on over to the thread and added Thane

Who says he needs to die? Not me!!

That was like the second or third post right? WTF? Now Thane had to die for plot purposes? Seriously? One clueless Mofo.

[Cosmochyck]

mnomaha wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Went on over to the thread and added Thane

Who says he needs to die? Not me!!

That was like the second or third post right? WTF? Now Thane had to die for plot purposes? Seriously? One clueless Mofo.

Yes the person that created the thread said you couldn't pick anyone that was "meant to die" by the script/plot.  It apparently included Thane and Legion - I forget who else. 

This is a moment we should have had - by our very own Squeegee83!

[Sarah1281]

Anyone else find it ironic that while Thane is healthy enough to shadowbox in the Hospital lobby when you meet him, exercises for "pleasure", and healthy enough for hand-to-hand combat with Kai Leng, he's supposedly not healthy enough for a proper roll in the hay so Thanemancers have to settle for a creepy make-out scene in the Huerta waiting room?

Well, his punching the air isn't really all that strenuous and the fight with Kai Leng actively killed him so who knows what kind of toll sex would have taken on him?

.... and then he dies. Not because of his wound. But because in this universe of space magic where we can cure major diseases like the genophage and resurrect people from the dead, apparently we can't find a treatment or cure for THIS disease.

I thought it was because of his wound. The doctor said something about their not being drell blood for a transfusion (needed because of his stab wound) and that his son had arrived to donate but it was too late.

Exhibit C: Thane talks about protecting Kaidan for her and there's no choice to tell him he doesn't need to do that.

I don't mind this. It seems like a horrible thing to do to tell someone to not bother making sure that nobody kills Ashley/Kaidan. It has nothing to do with how important they supposedly are to Shepard, just the idea that Shepard would tell him not to bother saving someone's life because...it might be dangerous, I guess...it's just terrible. I'm grateful he was watching over them and I would still be grateful even if the person he was watching over was a romanced Jacob.

Why would you get so emotional over a man you haven't seen in two years. Then the next time you do see him he turns his back on you.

It's true that when you see him he turns his back on you but the not seeing him in two years thing isn't really accurate. Chronologically, it has been two years since your last meeting. For Kaidan it has been two years since your last meeting. For Shepard, it's been a few weeks.

In the hospital, after how rude and short I'd been with him, he has the gall to ask about "some assassin"....I felt he had no right too.

I feel that he does have a right to ask. You two must have been dating pre-death or he wouldn't have brought it up. You two never officially broke up (whether you needed to or not given the circumstances is another story) and when he's in the hosptial is the first time that Cerberus hasn't come between you. Now that you two are working things out, he's still interested so he wants to know if you're really dating someone else and, if so, is it serious. What's so wrong about that?

Shepard may not be able to respond appropriately but it seems like a perfectly reasonable question to me.

Yes the person that created the thread said you couldn't pick anyone that was "meant to die" by the script/plot.  It apparently included Thane and Legion - I forget who else. 

I think they were just talking about those who die no matter what and weren't trying to judge the validity of those deaths.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 14 mars 2012 - 06:05 .

[coldwetn0se]

I am going to make two parts to this post; one in reference to @stwu regarding my other thoughts on the game, and two in regards to @diebythesword's comments.

@stwu - I fully admit, I didn't finish the game, so take my comments with a grain of salt.  Of the campaigns I played, I enjoyed about half of them.  Liked the design of Palaven's moon (though seemed strange that it had a compatible atmosphere for....ah breathing, but eh....), and getting in the Altus at Grissom Academy was actually fun.  Normally I am really bad at those type of gameplay devices.  However, I had a few glitches, not gamebreaking but bothersome and immersion breaking. 
1) On Palaven's moon when you take over the gun mounted on the wall to protect the camp, I got stuck there after all the waves had finished.  Nothing happened, and I couldn't go back down the ladder.  Turns out it was because you are meant to have a cutscene and are introduced to the brute.  Had to reload from previous save.

2)The Hanar diplomat side quest glitched, but luckily I found instructions online where to go, so I was able to eventually complete it.

3) At Grissom's Academy, my screen froze.

4) Had lots of clipping, and the whole "Exorcist" head thing, in Liara's room on the Normandy.  Graphical and animation issues in general.  Again, not gamebreaking, just immersion breaking.

5)This is one of the BIG ones for me, though not a glitch whatsoever.  THIS WAS NOT MY SHEPARD.  I am not generally too fussed by auto-dialogue, unless it changes the personality of the PC I have shaped through dialogue and action choices.  I began to feel like my Shep was acting contrary to the choices she made in the previous game. 

Combine those with the (for me and obviously others) heartbreaking lack of Thane romance and unavoidable death, and having read/seen the ending from other posts, I just couldn't get my self to finish the game. 


@Diebythesword - There is no sarcasm in what I am about to say.  I am actually glad you liked the treatment of Thane's character in ME3.  I do not wish anyone to feel bad over this game, and it is unfortunate that some do (including myself).

I have no problem at all with what you posted, and if it gives anyone who reads it food for thought, than that is exactly what I believe your intention was.  It's not uncommon for those that feel passionate about something to not be swayed into believing something else, or "settling" for someone elses point of view.  So the idea of "agree to disagree" becomes the easiest path for both parties.  However, there may be some lurkers who view this thread who may appreciate your take on the situation with Thane's ME3 appearance, so valid post is valid.

And for those tl:dr

1)gameplay problematic

2) immersion breaking

3)MISS MY THANE!

4)all posts should be considered unless obvious troll.

I really hope I didn't step on any toes, and I wish you all a great day!