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yamainu1984 wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Again... just putting it out there. If anyone is interested in keeping in touch on the poster project.

Please join the group: http://social.bioware.com/group/7356/

It's nothing fancy, but once I get the poster back from printing, I will be posting pictures there. woohoo.

Submit an idea/concept as well. I am giving everyone the chance to show how logical we are in our thinking... so go for it. I don't understand how anyone can shut down the chance too. Anywhos... squee needs to go take her nap. Coz I'm getting really cranky right now. lol.

Sorry if I sound tired and worn out... coz that's how I feel right now. Just join if ya care and save me the energy of having to track yourself down later after it's all sent out to Bioware.



there used to be an excellent "Thane retcon diagram" here. Maybe we should include it along the poster? Or was it sent in the book? I really thought it was nice way for Thane to survive or die depending on your actions in previous games.


Yeah I will put it in the book, but Squee perhaps ask R'Shara for it again, I think it would be great if you send it along with the poster at all! I will put it in R'Shara section - so it is "somewhere" in the middle of a more than 300 pages book, I think it could not be bad if they receive it 2 times :)


If it's already being sent in yours, then don't worry about it. I just don't want us going "YES SAVE THANE!" and then we end up looking like a bunch of dumbies with no logical stand point to it. In the worst case, I will send in those who already contribute, because they want Bioware to have it. I won't take that away, it just be sad if we aren't able to show more.

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gearseffect wrote...

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@gears...Geralt has Ken syndrome too. :(

Very sad, especially when you're using "clothing optional" mods. :)


I assume Geralt is your DudeShep. I was rather peeved when I discoved what BW with my Sheps package (or lack of). It's something dudes take offense to a reduced package size. I mean if FemShep gets bigger boobs and and new @ss than why can't Shep's undies have a huge bulge? Hell EDI got a ******.

Anyway

@yamainu1984 did you get my PM? Just wanted to check given I saw your post it made me wonder.

Ohh and Thane, he has the best intro of any ME squad mate EVER. Popping out of the vents and killing all the Eclipse and than Nassana. BEST INTRO EVER! I don't think any squad mates intro even comes close to being as bad@ss cool as Thane's was.


Wah! Sorry gears, I just have overseen it >< I will answere this evening, I even started yesterday with the post for the Fanbook, but since it will be a huge thing 8and I tried to summ things up and don't forget anything) I wasn't able to get it done yesterday *.* Today some Samara Love inc :)

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utaker1988 wrote...

Don't be embarrassed by how you feel or how many words it takes to express it. We understand where you are coming from. And now we will give you something pleasant to look at....

Cam's FlyCam....

I think I heard something....
Posted Image

Ooops, I think he knows we are under here....The view, though, it is spectacular.....
Posted Image


:o:O:O:O:O

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yamainu1984 wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

@gears...Geralt has Ken syndrome too. :(

Very sad, especially when you're using "clothing optional" mods. :)


I assume Geralt is your DudeShep. I was rather peeved when I discoved what BW with my Sheps package (or lack of). It's something dudes take offense to a reduced package size. I mean if FemShep gets bigger boobs and and new @ss than why can't Shep's undies have a huge bulge? Hell EDI got a ******.

Anyway

@yamainu1984 did you get my PM? Just wanted to check given I saw your post it made me wonder.

Ohh and Thane, he has the best intro of any ME squad mate EVER. Popping out of the vents and killing all the Eclipse and than Nassana. BEST INTRO EVER! I don't think any squad mates intro even comes close to being as bad@ss cool as Thane's was.


Wah! Sorry gears, I just have overseen it >< I will answere this evening, I even started yesterday with the post for the Fanbook, but since it will be a huge thing 8and I tried to summ things up and don't forget anything) I wasn't able to get it done yesterday *.* Today some Samara Love inc :)


yeah, gears, it totally belongs to one of the most epical moments in mass effect. it was GREAT! i was flashed by him and just thought: woooow, who is this guy? he's brillant *_* and then it was to late :D

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Here what  my Shepard   heard in her   head when the  supposed Thane  told her the  end  lines:

youtu.be/5Tq_tAqoj0k 

She went all  insane in  head...Posted Image


And this  just   because I love it  too and  not want to stay on a bad  mood today again...

youtu.be/j4gPZPKJc0s
Should be cool an automated  real sized Thane...Posted Image


"edit" ehehe   bad  paste copy  Posted Image

Modifié par Saodade, 14 mai 2012 - 12:32 .


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Saodade wrote...

Here what  my Shepard   heard in her   head when the  supposed Thane  told her the  end  lines:

youtu.be/5Tq_tAqoj0k 

She went all  insane in  head...Posted Image


And this  just   because I love it  too and  not want to stay on a bad  mood today again...

youtu.be/5Tq_tAqoj0k

Should be cool an automated  real sized Thane...Posted Image


both is the same video :D

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Moira-chan wrote...

both is the same video :D


oupsy ;op  I  did  not  paste and copy the  good link eheh ...Here what happen when I try to do multiple tasks...
I edited the  precedent  message  so I suppose it is  fixed . Sorry  ^^

Modifié par Saodade, 14 mai 2012 - 12:36 .


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You know I have to say this....when one decides to kill off a character (Thane), I would really appreciate it if they would not have him still breathing AFTER he is dead. It's creepy. Yes, my curiosity got the better of me and I flycam'd my way back into his room after the death scene. Well, they locked Hope out, she wasn't done grieving.

Imagine her complete horror as she sees him still breathing. I know from past experience with death and seeing it that not all organs die at the same time but yeah, I have yet to see someone still breathing. There is Thane, laying in the bed, breathing, eyes open and facing the window. Kolyat still standing there praying. If one did not know he was supposed to be dead, one would think he is just a man laying in a bed looking out a window with a son by his side.

Even Kaidan was not breathing after Garrus shot him and he took his last breath. Yeah, I missed the Renegade Interrupt and didn't shoot him so Garrus ended up doing it. I also know I am a very bad person.

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I thought it looked like he was still breathing.
There were just so many things wrong with that scene.

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When I first saw it, I was confused. I wasn't sure if he died or just fell asleep. I thought shep was touching his face, not closing his eyes. so when I got back on the normady and saw his name on the board, thats when it hit me about what just happen. I guess you can say my mind couldn't absorb what was happening at first. If Shep showned some real emotion during the death part, I wouldn't end up confuse.

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He did look like he was sleeping even though I knew he wasn't. Thane looking like he's still breathing didn't help. Then the game just kicks you out of the room. I don't know why Bioware did that. I didn't occur to them that we might want to stay with him for a while.

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i actually knew that he was dead..don't know...right afters kai lengs (stupid son of a bi***) i had a very, very bad feeling and just thought: ****, ****, ****, this going to end bad. i know it. he's gonna die...prepare yourself...moira...don't cry...just concentrate on...*shepard is death* the phantoms... >.< heureka.

so i acutally knew, that he died at this point, but yeah, you could relly think, that he is just sleeping, because he's tired...

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gearseffect wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

@gears...Geralt has Ken syndrome too. :(

Very sad, especially when you're using "clothing optional" mods. :)


I assume Geralt is your DudeShep. I was rather peeved when I discoved what BW with my Sheps package (or lack of). It's something dudes take offense to a reduced package size. I mean if FemShep gets bigger boobs and and new @ss than why can't Shep's undies have a huge bulge? Hell EDI got a ******.

Anyway

@yamainu1984 did you get my PM? Just wanted to check given I saw your post it made me wonder.

Ohh and Thane, he has the best intro of any ME squad mate EVER. Popping out of the vents and killing all the Eclipse and than Nassana. BEST INTRO EVER! I don't think any squad mates intro even comes close to being as bad@ss cool as Thane's was.


*gasp* Gears...there is only one Geralt and he is Geralt of Rivia...from the Witcher series...:blink:

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Alright you guys and I mean that literally, because he also talked about Samara...Page 1 for that. Thane is on page 2.

http://www.forbes.co...-the-shepard/2/

I wasn't too impressed with his "thoughts".

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mnomaha wrote...

Alright you guys and I mean that literally, because he also talked about Samara...Page 1 for that. Thane is on page 2.

http://www.forbes.co...-the-shepard/2/

I wasn't too impressed with his "thoughts".


That's because he didn't really have any thoughts.
Is he a real reporter because he just sounded like he was sucking up to people. Then he calls Thane and Samara loose ends that were tied up. How are they loose ends? I didn't really find anything impressive about anything he said.

Modifié par JECW, 14 mai 2012 - 08:04 .


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I wish someone of the crew did notice it too that would help them ...

Just inspired me an idea to how bring back Thane, right now (sorry for the mistakes and grammar things feel free to message me for the fixing):

The Normandy was silent, most of its crew on leave on the citadel, the usuals Garrus, joker, Jaavik, in their quarters.
Shepard entered her cabin, all body feeling heavy, starting to take off her armor.
She started to undress, just letting fall her clothes on the floor.
Sliding more than walking to her shower, brain empty, and looking distractely her personal laptop's flashing led.
A message...shrugging in her mind she ignored it and went under the warm water trying to forget everything.
She didn't dare to close her eyes for she would see his large ones looking at her, his discreet smiles and the way his lips curved when calling her siha...
She left the bathroom and just throwed herself on her bed, hoping that sleep won't take too long.
She looked through the large bay above her bed, the stars shinning and sparckling and wondered how many beings have been staring at them, how many lives spent under them ...A blink, here what is our existences... maybe Sovereign was true...what is our lives compared to the eternity of the universe...She changed side, trying to hide her eyes from this flashing, She sighed,  it wouldn't happen tonight. One more restless night...She decided to go chat with joker, since he would probably be on his precious leather seat...

She chuckled when she remembered how Thane and her used his seat, while he was on date with IDA at the citadel...They even used Thane's leather- kit care to make sure he never notice the tiny scratch on the side of it. Of course he noticed it: he was hiding his special fornax numbers right under it and he rubbed his arm on the sewed scratch...Well maybe it is not a good idea to come and try speak about Thane to the pilot...

She returned to her cabin and checked the still flashing led of her computer...A message...
-"Who will ask me to save their planet today", she wondered ironically.
Her heart fell in her knees when she saw the name of the mail: Thane Krios...
She hesitated, hands slightly shaking, looking these words over and over, unable to open it.
-"OMG he did it again, he sent me a message for I find it after his death...
She could hear her own heartbeat in ears and inhaled to try and calm herself.
She stood up and went in the bathroom and pass some fresh water on her face before returning to her desk.
-"Ok, I can do this, what, it is probably the same one he sent me last time... "
CLICK.
She started to read, and suddenly holded her breath and had her arms fall on sides, stunned.
-"Wha...what??? What the...no??"
Tears started to roll down her cheeks, she was unable to move and her eyes were mesmerized by the screen...
IDA voice resonated in the room:
-"Commander Shepard your vital signs are giving unsual signals do you need the Dr Chakwas help?"
She still looked at the screen, one hand brassed on herself and the other one crisped on the mouse, shaking .
-"Commander Shepard ?" insisted IDA.
less than 2 minutes later Chakwas ran in and looked appeased when seeing her commander sit on her chair ... before noticing her rapid breathing, shaking hands and bead of sweet melted with tears on her face...
-"No she definitely is not well". Not loosing time she grabed a blanket and put it on Shepards shoulders then scanned her with her omnitool.
-"Shepard... answer to me.. what happened? Did you fell and knock you? Are you under chemicals? Did you bet drinks with Vega again ? Commander?"
When she was about to give her a shot to try to wake her from this shock, the commander spoke with a ghostly voice:
-" He lives"
-"Who? who lives?"
-"Thane...he didn't really died on his bed at Huerta..."
Chakwas felt her heart constrict when she realised what her friend and comander had to face alone while all the galaxy was waiting from her to save them all.
-"Oh Liza..." she took her hand in hers, feeling sorry and ashamed.
-"He is alive...I can't believe it... do I read wrong? Is it a dream or an hallucination? Please Doctor, read my mail and tell me I'm not insane??"
-"Ok I read but please try to relax and drink this pouch it will help you"
While Shepard tried to drink and read in same time , the older woman started to read:
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"Siha, I have asked my son to type you this message cause I'm too weak to do it myself.
I hope you are well and I want to apologise if I scared you at Huerta hospital. Please believe me, if I tell you I wasn't intent to fake my death, specialy to you my dearest Siha. You know that you are my reason to live, and that I"m the first surprised to be still alive.
I remember you and Kolyat saying the prayer, I remember your eyes my Siha and my fellings of happyness to have you at my side for my last travel and the heart brake I had for letting you alone. Then all went black and I can only rely on what my son told me.
What he said were the hospital machines declared me dead, my heart beats and pulse were undetectable. Kolyat prayed, on a chair close to me and fell asleep. And I scared the hell out of him when my hand gripped his siddenly as I woke up. The machines had been used to someone else room since I was considered dead, but when I woke up I was so weak and needed help to breath. Kolyat tried to get a nurse to help me but she looked at him as if he was a fool and ran to see someone at the emergency. he hospital was a wasp nest, so many people needing help... My son took me in his flat where my old breathing kit was stored and while I rested he ran to find you at the Normandy usual docking bay. But you were gone, someone told him since it were a very classified destination they couldn't reach you.
While my son looked for you I thought about how horrible and tacteless I were at the hospital. To my excuse I was just trying to help you to accept and maybe hope for my passing. I thought maybe if you were angry at me you would be less sad...But your tears when praying close to me, and the fact that I survived once again the Kepral syndrome made me decide to try the last hope surgery. My son agreed to accompany me to Kahje were there would have enough Drell blood samples of my group, and there is the Hanari top research center to use all their last progress treatments and implants to help what the surgery won't be able to achieve. About this I can say you will be a part of these experimentation: Mordin sent them copy of the cybernetics usd on you by Cerberus.
So here I am my Siha, on Kahje, and I have been under surgery and survived it so far. My son gave one of his lungs, but he is younger, and he is recovering faster than me.

I hope you will forgive me if I caused you sadness and be sure that you are still my lover, my warrior angel, that I will carry in my heart for ever and after.
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P.S. My father is doing well and each day he is stronger. I think if you find a moment to come and see him, that it would increase his recovery significantly. He spoke often of you when you were under alliance guard, and Im not a kid anymore, so if he ask you, know that I would be proud to become your son in law. I would use your time with him to fix some things I had to leave at the citadel. If you come ask for the Hanari central temple office, they will tell you where to find us, they know your name and ship..

P.P.S. By the way, thanks for saving Kahje, you are truly a representation of Kalahira in this universe...But you are still not my mom."
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As Dr Chakwas read the last line, flustered Garrus, Impassive Jaavik, limping Joker helped by IDA, ran in the cabin, all worried since IDA told them Chakwas was in emergency in the commander quarters.
All astonished to see Shepard and Chakwas nose and eyes red, laughing and sniffling behind a paper handkerchief.

Et voila. Saved Thane.
And I have not even used the Jaavik mojo (ability to influence the dna evolution)
Sorry for being rude to the english tongue I will try to improve.

Modifié par Saodade, 14 mai 2012 - 08:17 .


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mnomaha wrote...

Alright you guys and I mean that literally, because he also talked about Samara...Page 1 for that. Thane is on page 2.

http://www.forbes.co...-the-shepard/2/

I wasn't too impressed with his "thoughts".


Yeah, I get so sick of people writing about characters without taking the time or effort to consider that the way they were handled will only fit well in certain circumstances, and what might be a loose end in their story is central to the story for others.  ME3 is a disaster unless players liked the 'right' characters and I wish more people would recognise this. <_<

edit:
@Saodade... In our dreams we could save Thane and enjoy the game again...lets hope our dreams can come true.

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@JECW...yeah, this guy wasn't impressive at all. Just directing my fellow Sihas to his article...Go forth my warrior angels. :)

@Saodade...that is...lovely...how is it we have more talented writers in the fanbase than bioware?

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they wouldn't even need to do much: an in game mail, and and open door in case one day they decide to do a DLC: nursing Thane on Kahje while doing some sabotage on cerberus things etc.
There is a say in french: when you want you can. We just need to make them want it :P

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Saodade wrote...

they wouldn't even need to do much: an in game mail, and and open door in case one day they decide to do a DLC: nursing Thane on Kahje while doing some sabotage on cerberus things etc.
There is a say in french: when you want you can. We just need to make them want it :P


yup in english the saying is 'where there's a will there's a way'  I just wish Bioware cared about us to have the will to do this.

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Honestly, they didn't need to do much when they were making the game. They could have spent less time on blueberry and more time on the other characters. There is another saying in French: C'est merde!

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I see you know your french lol

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LOL Just a few words I remember. I actually get my French and Spanish mixed up.

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Sadly french or spanish don't have ridges ;'(

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Of course they do...just imagine Thane saying "je t'adore mon lapin peu corné" ....blame google translator hahahaha