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[Moira-chan]

utaker1988 wrote...

There were a couple of spots where I got stuck not being able to go down stairs. One was on the Geth Dreadnought and the other was on Mars. I held down my mouse button and pounded on the W key and Spacebar until she went down. Of course, she wasn't actually holding onto the ladder but the witch managed to get her arse down there.

yeah, but i've tried really everything to go there, shepard just hold the....don't know how to call it, the things to hold... and the sound of going down there was there, but she always return to the previouse level >.<
i had this once on thessia...and i was really afraid, that shepard won't go down there either...because it was a main mission, as you all now, but after the 5'th time she did...

well...samaras mission i realoaded, started new, press all the buttons and did right the hell but karin did not make it to go down there <.< huuuh, pretty annyoing

[Jenlocks]

 I was going to put this in the regular mass effect 3 forum but I'm feeling a little vulnerable at the moment and don't really feel like being trolled about my thoughts and stuff right now. Also I've got a busy day and won't be around much today to defend myself..but I was thinking about some personal stuff today and I came up with this.. I hope I've collected my thoughts and this makes sense to everyone.

Why Thane's death was bad
Today makes it 21 years since I lost my dad to ALS. For those who don't know what that is here is some information.
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or ALS, is a disease of the nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord that control voluntary muscle movement. ALS is also known as Lou Gehrig's disease.In ALS, nerve cells (neurons) waste away or die, and can no longer send messages to muscles. This eventually leads to muscle weakening, twitching, and an inability to move the arms, legs, and body. The condition slowly gets worse. When the muscles in the chest area stop working, it becomes hard or impossible to breathe on one's own. ALS affects approximately 5 out of every 100,000 people worldwide.There is no known cure for ALS. 
That's a horrible disease. I watched my father waste away in front of me in less than a year. 
I don't know why so many are so unsupportive when we ask for cures and the option to save Thane. Yes I realize this is just a video game and he is just a character, but the principle still stands. The hope to save someone still exists. I can't tell you how much it hurts to lose someone you love. I hope none of you have to live that pain of watching someone you love waste away in front of you knowing you can do nothing to help them. That's horrible. It makes you feel like crap.
And now we get to relive that in video game form. Why is there no option? And why do so many not want an option or are happy to see Thane go? He is an amazing character. Those who took the time to talk with him will see that. He's not defined by his disease. The writer from ME2 did an amazing job giving him depth and made us care about him. His dialog had meaning unlike the dialog in ME3 which was just -i'm dying- i'm sick- i'm ready to die- so different from Thane in ME2. While retconning his death would cause "problems"--(no worries that they retconned his character from ME2 though..most people are ok with that :devil:what? ) adding an option to cure him or prolong his life doesn't seem like something that's unreasonable to want. Why not want to do everything you can to help him? Something, anything. Think about what you'd do if someone you loved was sick..just sit back and watch them die? If you meet someone and they tell you they have cancer or some other disease do you say "you're going to die so i can't be your friend and god forbid i should consider liking you or falling in love with you because you'll be dead soon" It's a slap in the face for everyone who has lost a person to disease or is fighting that battle now. You do everything you can for them.
"you knew he was dying..get over it" wise words...like I said it's been 21 years since my dad died and I'm still not "over it" Just yesterday I was remembering that 21 years ago was the last time I heard his voice and the last time he told me he loved me and I started crying my eyes out..because the next time I saw him he was passing away in the hospital. You don't "get over" stuff like that. When you care about someone it's difficult and the pain continues longer than you think. 
Just a character..yes but one many have come to love. Not just because he's awesome but because it's awesome to hope for the best and to want to help those we love. I wanted to do everything to help Thane, not just my character that romanced him but the other ones that befriended him as well. You help your friends and you help the person you love. You don't leave them to die on a sinking ship. 
"he went out like a boss" Nope..going out like a "boss" -to me- would be if only Thane could have pulled off what happened and you'd be stuck in your game not able to continue if he didn't. This is not the case at all. Thane just dies to die no matter what you do or no matter what he does. Doesn't sound very boss like to me. I've said this before : talk to thane=Thane dies-councilor lives-kirrahe lives; don't talk to thane=kirrahe dies-councilor lives- thane dies anyway off screen; don't have kirrahe & don't talk to thane=concilor dies-thane dies anyway off screen. Everyone has the chance to live except Thane. And no matter what you get to continue. Not really my definition of an epic battle or sacrifice. 
Just left to die with no afterthought. I know after my dad died I cried, the people who knew him cried and we talked about him and remembered him. To not acknowledge a person's passing is also a slap in the face..especially if it's someone you cared about. I mean come on. You don't forget the people you love. You honor them and grieve for them. I don't know why it would be so hard for Shepard to remember Thane in a meaningful way. 
Anyway, it's just bad how Thane was handled. As someone remembering how crappy it is to lose someone you love it's extra bad. I would like to see some sort of help for Thane because that's really all anyone wants when dealing with a loved one that needs help. 


*edit* sorry for the text wall

Modifié par Jenlocks, 17 mai 2012 - 01:31 .

[Saodade]

Jenlock first , I'm sorry for your father loss. From yesterday or 21 years ago or 40 years ago, when you lose your parent it is wound that change your perception of life for ever.
The Thane krios bad treatment make me wonder how those responsible for this joke of scenes will react when the illness will come and knock at their door. Cause everyone have to get its own pain one day or another. So what? will they be ok with all their family and friends running away at the first coughing cause hey, bro you are done! You know you will die , get over it man...
or how they would react.
And I wonder... they added homosexual love interests to please every part of their customers. Then why not be decent with Thane about his illness?
Why not add cures or decent memories of the crew about him?
Why not to please the terminally ill people playing this game to distract themselves a little bit ?
Or those who accompany the last moment of the leaving ones in looking for a little moment of "awesome everything can be fixed" ?
Sick people need love too so why not do something for them?
being sick don't mean you stop care or feel...

What message are they trying to pass along there ? " run away from the sick and weaks people, the invalid ones, run away from them don't even look at them!!
And specially do not remember them... lets do like if nothing happened" ? Is it really what they want to tell us?
So if I follow their lead, why Shepard even bother to save the universe since everything seems to proove her it is useless again and again?
It is that point that annoy me the most.
Shepard certainly isn't the one who will turn her/his back to her crew even the most annoying ones so you don't say for one she/he loves!

and SHE DID NOT CHEATED ON ALENKO GODAMIT! SHE DIED. 
HE MOVED ALONG AND DATED A DOCTOR WHILE SHE WAS STILL BEING A PACK OF T BONES ON A  BUTCHER TABLE!! AND HE KNEW SHE WAS  ALIVE AT SOME POINT  BUT DIDN'T BOTHERED TO SEND EVEN ONE MAIL BEFORE.
So NO she didn't cheated on   him. He actually cheated on her. And cheated on her  by not having faith in her when Liara  looked  after her iin all the galaxy and  Garrus didn't even hesitate to follow her when  meeting  her  again. He didn't even questionned her  on what she was  ( he  droid?  a  clone?). he just  came back and watched her back. Alenko ABANDONED HER. SO he have nothing to say to her. He is the traitor  there. Bastards.
I'm all angry  about this too.  /afk fresh air.

 /back. I don't know what to think. Is it how they want the world to turn alike? Surely they've read too much the book Brave new world from Aldous Huxley. Do they consider old people and sick people like useless and good to be recycled ?
About the wall of text I think no one will complain cause it echoes a lot of what there is in our minds.
They do exactly that with us Thanemancers: they feign deaf. because they hide their heads in a sand hole and don't see us, the problem will be solved...

Yes I'm angry.

Modifié par Saodade, 17 mai 2012 - 03:00 .

[Emeraldfern]

@Jenlocks

You have my deepest condolences for your loss.

It's true, the loss of someone that close, is not something "you just get over", I haven't lost a parent ( I was close to losing my mother ten years ago to stroke. And now I thank whatever cosmic force responsible for keeping her alive everyday) so I can't fully imagine the extent of your pain.
 
But nonetheless, I can empathize to a certain extent. I'm currently witnessing my grandfather slowly fade away due to dementia, and even if he's a grandparent, he's very close to my family, having always been there for me and my brother when things were rough. When he passes on I honestly don't know how I'm going to take it. I'll try to hold my head up high and live by the good things he thaught me.

*Hugs*


Well, I do have an additional matter at hand which I need to address with all of you fellow Thane fans:

Copy pasta' from the Thane Thread:

So, I should have posted this earlier but RL decided otherwise,

*Ehem* so anyway:

A call for a strategic meeting is called in the #SaveThane - FightforanOptionCampaign :

http://social.biowar...scussion/21966/

regarding the decision of what hashtag will be our battle-cry on twitter!

Your thoughts and ideas regarding the group's presence on twitter is more than welcome!

So fellow Thane fans and users of twitter don't hesitate to make your voice heard!

[utaker1988]

@Jenlocks, I am sorry for your loss and the pain you still feel.

@Saodade, you are right the pain over losing a parent is not something you forget or get over.

Now on to the three KL cutscene fight. It is true, all three scenarios leads to Thane's death after. Whether you see him die or not. For those on the PS3, no Gib's or ME1 for you, Kirrahe is always dead. So now you got two outcomes for this scene...to see Thane or not to see Thane. Doesn't matter now does it? He dies anyway. Or you can just not import and then you get one outcome only, the Councilor dies because Thane is by default dead. As is Kirrahe, Jack, and Samara. Thanks for the crappy treatment of Thane, BW. Much appreciated.

Speaking of default deads...Jack? Really? They took the time to revamp her image only to make her dead from the start. That makes sense. Has anyone actually seen the default ME3 choices? I have to laugh. There is no way to get Shep lives ending without MP or come even close, it seems you get all the crappy choices. http://www.gamefront...mport-from-me2/

[Moira-chan]

@jenlocks: sorry for ya to hear that, you never really get used to it, when you loss people you love. i've lost a grandma and a granpa (grandma father side, grandpa mother side) last year...my grandma was really like the definition of a grandmother. open hearted, kind, middle of the family and so...and she did 2. christmas day suprisly...her funerals was on silester...it was quite hard for me and sometimes i even catch me up by dialing her number, wanna talk to her, when i feel trouble etc....T_T

[BeanieBat]

@ Jenlocks - I'm very sorry for your loss, losing a close family member is tough and as you say, not something you are going to get over.
I do think you have a point and it reminds me of a thread that was up a while back where Kepral's Syndrome was compared to Cystic Fibrosis. If I remember correctly a few people on the thread had friends/family that had CF and maybe a few even had CF themselves. I'm sure that at least some of them will have stuck with that connection and were really eager to see what happened to Thane with regards to a cure in ME3 (I think this was after the cure Thane banner, but I could be wrong). As you said, he is only a video game character but having an option for a cure might have helped keep the hope alive for people with CF and other diseases. If they had seen the thread saying 'Kepral's Syndrome is like CF' and then played ME3 to see Thane die because nothing could be done, that would be far from comforting! CF is a genetic disease and there is no cure yet, but research has really had an impact on life expectancy of those with the disease and I really think that there could have at least been an option like that for Thane while research was been done to develop a cure.

@utaker - I had never seen that before. I can't believe they picked on Thane there too! I can understand not having any of the characters loyal, but actually choosing some to have died?! Come on!!

[coldwetn0se]

utaker1988 wrote...

@Jenlocks, I am sorry for your loss and the pain you still feel.

@Saodade, you are right the pain over losing a parent is not something you forget or get over.

Now on to the three KL cutscene fight. It is true, all three scenarios leads to Thane's death after. Whether you see him die or not. For those on the PS3, no Gib's or ME1 for you, Kirrahe is always dead. So now you got two outcomes for this scene...to see Thane or not to see Thane. Doesn't matter now does it? He dies anyway. Or you can just not import and then you get one outcome only, the Councilor dies because Thane is by default dead. As is Kirrahe, Jack, and Samara. Thanks for the crappy treatment of Thane, BW. Much appreciated.

Speaking of default deads...Jack? Really? They took the time to revamp her image only to make her dead from the start. That makes sense. Has anyone actually seen the default ME3 choices? I have to laugh. There is no way to get Shep lives ending without MP or come even close, it seems you get all the crappy choices. http://www.gamefront...mport-from-me2/

@Jenlocks - *bearhug* My sincerest condolences on the loss of your father.  And no, memory of a loss is significant whether 20 days or 20 years.  The handling of death in this game ranges from thought out to unabashed shyte!  Complete misfire!  I would say messages are severly muddled, and grossly ignored in regards to Thane.

@Saodade and @utaker - One (among many) of my biggest gripes is over the insignificant role Thane was reduced to.  His death just amplifies it, BECAUSE of it lack of significance.  I never wanted him to die, but I most certainly did not expect that should he die, he would be reduced to a nonessencial cameo. 

He is our only TRUE representative to the Drell, and by proxy; to the Hanar.  THAT should have been MORE than significant.  But they chose not to explore the possibilities with his character.....but by god, lets be sure to talk to Allers, or make sure "refund guy" finally....ya know....gets his refund.  Or spend time talking to EDI about being human (sorry, I am one of those that really wanted her to stay the ship...), or run around listening to NCP's wishing they had some stupid flag or emblem....cause then they would fight.  AHHHHH.....now there is an interesting point!!  I have seen people complain about those that....well....complain about fetch quests.  And most of them LOVE to say, 'well, you got to have assets', and 'what is so wrong about these people (random NPC's) wanting something to fight for; an incentive to join the war??'  Sound familiar Thanemancers?

As for the default background a new Shepard gets, when created in me3; yeah, I saw those.  I only tried one import, and I also started a guinea pig Shep at the same time.  I was quite shocked at what you got.  I remember reading somewhere that they were going to try and balance the whole renegade/paragon background setup for new Sheps, this time around.  In ME2, it is pretty much completely renegade.  The only real Paragon action I really noticed was the Collector Base is destroyed.  There may be a few others, but still very renegade heavy in me3 default background.  Doesn't really matter though, for reasons we have preached about for over two months.

[Saodade]

Well if for them being in love is telling nice things humping in public and then ignore the other one...I wonder what they call when they do a one shot thingy...
Also they can not tell us they don't know where to put Thane back if ever we could cure him but he needed to just recover on the normandy; his cup is still there in his old room... you know... where my shepard stay now...It is easy: just need to paste copy the old picture of Thane sitted there and even put the line all my time left is yours to take Siha. That would be ok for me. And at last to see him close to the guy on big ben and snipping stuff around his Siha on her way to the beacon...that should be good.

[Moira-chan]

um...
guys so now i have twitter, please tell me how i can find ya all. don't wanna miss a twitter conversation about mass effect.

so, who have a twitter account?

[utaker1988]

I don't think they truly get the concept of love and war. Maybe they should ask my Father about love and war. As military as he was, he fought to survive in Vietnam. What was his driving factor? My Mother, he needed to survive so that he wouldn't be leaving her alone and in mourning. Well, he loved her too. Still does, he thinks the sun rises and sets on my Mom's ass. Little tiny things in life that you think don't matter but they do. Had he died over there, I would not exist. Neither would my brother, sister, and my children. All the things that matter to me would never be had he not had something to fight and survive for.

So, for people to say, "It's a war people die." Yes, they do and just imagine if it were your parent who died in a war before you were conceived. No, I can't imagine not existing, I can't imagine a world where my children don't exist.

I've worked in a morgue, I've seen people take their last breath in front of me, and I've seen someone shoot themselves. Don't tell me that he died epically or with dignity. Sorry to tell you folks, there is no dignity in death. Especially his, dying or not, I am with the belief he went into that fight with the intention to die. That's not epic, that's suicide. He gave up. Regardless of how he wanted to die, not gasping for air, he committed suicide. I watched my nephew go until his body stole his last breath, he never gave up, he always hoped he'd have longer, or they would find something else to put him into remission because he wanted to live. Not only did he have people he loved, he loved himself enough to never willingly give up. It's a natural instinct to want to survive, to live. Thane gave up when he decided to run straight toward Leng's blade.

Did it ****** me off when Leng said, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Yes, it did. Not because he said it to be a jerk but because if Thane committed suicide, then yes, he was a coward. He couldn't muster up the will to live. To continue to be there for the ones he loved. What did he just do? You think Kolyat is in a better place emotionally now? Just getting his father back in his life, only to lose him again. We all know how our Shepard's felt. There is no dignity in death only in living. Shepard will even say on Omega, "A coward is one who accepts death instead of fighting to stay alive." I love Thane and I will never agree with him interjecting himself on what should have been my fight with Leng. Or Aria's fight, seriously I think her interrupting and getting a piece of him would have made more sense.

In the end, it doesn't matter what I truly think because BW decided to do a 180 spin on his character. Ignoring the man who wanted to live and choosing to give him a forced death to satisfy their need to shove drama and ME1 LI's on us..or their new lesbian choices. His death is like the ending, no matter the route it all ends the same.

It was cruel to allude to treatment and a cure. But what was beyond cruel and runs into sadistic is the option to ask if there is anything you can do for him outside his door. WTF? For those that stayed away from spoilers and saw that it was a glimmer of hope. Oh look, we can help him Oh no, you cannot.

My old man's take on Thane, warning..he dropped the f bomb. http://utaker1988.fi.../04/hereugo.pdf

[coldwetn0se]

utaker1988 wrote...

I don't think they truly get the concept of love and war. Maybe they should ask my Father about love and war. As military as he was, he fought to survive in Vietnam. What was his driving factor? My Mother, he needed to survive so that he wouldn't be leaving her alone and in mourning. Well, he loved her too. Still does, he thinks the sun rises and sets on my Mom's ass. Little tiny things in life that you think don't matter but they do. Had he died over there, I would not exist. Neither would my brother, sister, and my children. All the things that matter to me would never be had he not had something to fight and survive for.

So, for people to say, "It's a war people die." Yes, they do and just imagine if it were your parent who died in a war before you were conceived. No, I can't imagine not existing, I can't imagine a world where my children don't exist.

I've worked in a morgue, I've seen people take their last breath in front of me, and I've seen someone shoot themselves. Don't tell me that he died epically or with dignity. Sorry to tell you folks, there is no dignity in death. Especially his, dying or not, I am with the belief he went into that fight with the intention to die. That's not epic, that's suicide. He gave up. Regardless of how he wanted to die, not gasping for air, he committed suicide. I watched my nephew go until his body stole his last breath, he never gave up, he always hoped he'd have longer, or they would find something else to put him into remission because he wanted to live. Not only did he have people he loved, he loved himself enough to never willingly give up. It's a natural instinct to want to survive, to live. Thane gave up when he decided to run straight toward Leng's blade.

Did it ****** me off when Leng said, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Yes, it did. Not because he said it to be a jerk but because if Thane committed suicide, then yes, he was a coward. He couldn't muster up the will to live. To continue to be there for the ones he loved. What did he just do? You think Kolyat is in a better place emotionally now? Just getting his father back in his life, only to lose him again. We all know how our Shepard's felt. There is no dignity in death only in living. Shepard will even say on Omega, "A coward is one who accepts death instead of fighting to stay alive." I love Thane and I will never agree with him interjecting himself on what should have been my fight with Leng. Or Aria's fight, seriously I think her interrupting and getting a piece of him would have made more sense.

In the end, it doesn't matter what I truly think because BW decided to do a 180 spin on his character. Ignoring the man who wanted to live and choosing to give him a forced death to satisfy their need to shove drama and ME1 LI's on us..or their new lesbian choices. His death is like the ending, no matter the route it all ends the same.

It was cruel to allude to treatment and a cure. But what was beyond cruel and runs into sadistic is the option to ask if there is anything you can do for him outside his door. WTF? For those that stayed away from spoilers and saw that it was a glimmer of hope. Oh look, we can help him Oh no, you cannot.

My old man's take on Thane, warning..he dropped the f bomb. http://utaker1988.fi.../04/hereugo.pdf

Loved everything you put in there, and agree!

I also read all of your husbands analysis......awesome!  Too bad you two live on the otherside of the US from me.....a nice BBQ of low n' slow brisket, some Neck Snaps and truly hilarious convos.....fairly certain my husband would get along with yours swimmingly.

Your husband reached the same conclusion mine did.  Rog (husband) said, "Killing Thane is like giving Lung Cancer to Han Solo."  *wibble* They understand!!!!

[Moira-chan]

ok trully just admit, that thanes death was for him the most emotional/sad part of the game..maybe i can convince him a bit more *chaka*

[gearseffect]

@Utaker Your opening of that post, chocked me up. It's getting close to Memorial Day, been thinking of thinking of my extended family my other brothers via my older brother who served,

I'm sorry I'll be back, there is a bond there that's hard to explain, unless you've ever experienced it. Many of them have a reason to fight, sometimes family, wife, kids, brothers, sisters, moms & dads, and even their brothers right there next to them in hell. All of them reacted and defended the men next to them, some reacted and fought,, the hardest thing for my older brother when he lost his left leg, was being stateside bed ridden, while his/our brothers were still over there in hell.
Those 6 months were not kind t

[mnomaha]

New poll..

http://social.biowar...3&poll_id=33963

I'll be back...

[Visii]

Voted!

[Moira-chan]

voted!

[blueshepard]

utaker1988 wrote...

I don't think they truly get the concept of love and war. Maybe they should ask my Father about love and war. As military as he was, he fought to survive in Vietnam. What was his driving factor? My Mother, he needed to survive so that he wouldn't be leaving her alone and in mourning. Well, he loved her too. Still does, he thinks the sun rises and sets on my Mom's ass. Little tiny things in life that you think don't matter but they do. Had he died over there, I would not exist. Neither would my brother, sister, and my children. All the things that matter to me would never be had he not had something to fight and survive for.

So, for people to say, "It's a war people die." Yes, they do and just imagine if it were your parent who died in a war before you were conceived. No, I can't imagine not existing, I can't imagine a world where my children don't exist.

I've worked in a morgue, I've seen people take their last breath in front of me, and I've seen someone shoot themselves. Don't tell me that he died epically or with dignity. Sorry to tell you folks, there is no dignity in death. Especially his, dying or not, I am with the belief he went into that fight with the intention to die. That's not epic, that's suicide. He gave up. Regardless of how he wanted to die, not gasping for air, he committed suicide. I watched my nephew go until his body stole his last breath, he never gave up, he always hoped he'd have longer, or they would find something else to put him into remission because he wanted to live. Not only did he have people he loved, he loved himself enough to never willingly give up. It's a natural instinct to want to survive, to live. Thane gave up when he decided to run straight toward Leng's blade.

Did it ****** me off when Leng said, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Yes, it did. Not because he said it to be a jerk but because if Thane committed suicide, then yes, he was a coward. He couldn't muster up the will to live. To continue to be there for the ones he loved. What did he just do? You think Kolyat is in a better place emotionally now? Just getting his father back in his life, only to lose him again. We all know how our Shepard's felt. There is no dignity in death only in living. Shepard will even say on Omega, "A coward is one who accepts death instead of fighting to stay alive." I love Thane and I will never agree with him interjecting himself on what should have been my fight with Leng. Or Aria's fight, seriously I think her interrupting and getting a piece of him would have made more sense.

In the end, it doesn't matter what I truly think because BW decided to do a 180 spin on his character. Ignoring the man who wanted to live and choosing to give him a forced death to satisfy their need to shove drama and ME1 LI's on us..or their new lesbian choices. His death is like the ending, no matter the route it all ends the same.

It was cruel to allude to treatment and a cure. But what was beyond cruel and runs into sadistic is the option to ask if there is anything you can do for him outside his door. WTF? For those that stayed away from spoilers and saw that it was a glimmer of hope. Oh look, we can help him Oh no, you cannot.

My old man's take on Thane, warning..he dropped the f bomb. http://utaker1988.fi.../04/hereugo.pdf

Utaker - I love you, I really do. Loved to read this and agreed absolutely

And I am really happy that your husband really did it! I enjoyed reading this so so much I really was looking forward but it turned out a looooooot better than I thought Very nice and cool guy

[BeanieBat]

coldwetn0se wrote...

utaker1988 wrote...

Did it ****** me off when Leng said, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Yes, it did. Not because he said it to be a jerk but because if Thane committed suicide, then yes, he was a coward. He couldn't muster up the will to live. To continue to be there for the ones he loved. What did he just do? You think Kolyat is in a better place emotionally now? Just getting his father back in his life, only to lose him again. We all know how our Shepard's felt. There is no dignity in death only in living. Shepard will even say on Omega, "A coward is one who accepts death instead of fighting to stay alive." I love Thane and I will never agree with him interjecting himself on what should have been my fight with Leng. Or Aria's fight, seriously I think her interrupting and getting a piece of him would have made more sense.

My old man's take on Thane, warning..he dropped the f bomb. http://utaker1988.fi.../04/hereugo.pdf

Rog (husband) said, "Killing Thane is like giving Lung Cancer to Han Solo."  *wibble* They understand!!!!

I never thought of it like that... I agree it was really stupid of him to go into a fight like that in his condition (though I don't believe he should have been in that condition to begin with), but I just don't want to believe that he may have done it to commit suicide.  I like to think that he wanted to live, that he wanted to spend more time with Shep.  Maybe he thought that it would be alright because he would get some support?  But no... Shep and whoever the other 2 squadmates you had with you just stood and watched.  Like that would happen!  Grrrrr BioWare... grrrr.

Your husband's analysis was great and it really shows that someone who was not particularly interested in the game before was turned around by the awesomeness that was Thane's character.  I really don't understand why BW didn't see that too.  

@coldwetn0se - Haha, maybe if someone said that to BW, they'd understand?!

Edit:  Oh and, I completely agree about Aria!  She had been hunting down KL and was on the Citadel at the time, so it would make so much more sense for her to have a go at him!  

Modifié par BeanieBat, 17 mai 2012 - 08:16 .

[Visii]

My absolute biggest issue with Thane throwing himself into that fight is... WHY?

I mean, for Kahje, for the Hanar, for the Drell, I could see him getting himself involved. But to stop Kai-Leng from killing the Salarian? What, was he just in the neighborhood? Had nothing better to do?

At the very least, shouldn't he have been a bit more concerned with Kolyat's whereabouts? Shepard & CO had a militia's worth of weaponry and the right hands to use them and then all they did was just stand there, slack-jawed and glassy-eyed while Thane and Kai-Leng fight?

*rages more*

I thought I was getting over this. Apparently not. Emotions all still there.

[Moira-chan]

Visii wrote...

My absolute biggest issue with Thane throwing himself into that fight is... WHY?

I mean, for Kahje, for the Hanar, for the Drell, I could see him getting himself involved. But to stop Kai-Leng from killing the Salarian? What, was he just in the neighborhood? Had nothing better to do?

At the very least, shouldn't he have been a bit more concerned with Kolyat's whereabouts? Shepard & CO had a militia's worth of weaponry and the right hands to use them and then all they did was just stand there, slack-jawed and glassy-eyed while Thane and Kai-Leng fight?

*rages more*

I thought I was getting over this. Apparently not. Emotions all still there.

don't now..i explained it to me like, he is searching for shepard, find her, see the situation and tries everything to help her (nice that shepard don't ) so he just cannot watch...
but a direct confrontation was really a quite bad idea of him at this moment because of his cognition and Thane would know... but suicide? never see this and don't want to >.< i

[mnomaha]

popping back in...stupid job...to say that...


@utaker...clone your hub and give me the spare.

[Saodade]

I thought that since he told shep that he would keep an eye on kaidan, and knowing that Udina tried to putsh around, he would have thought that kaidan would bodyguard the human counselor. So he followed them.Well that or he hide in some pipe again when cerberus attacked (proove that he didn't want to die or he would have bounced in front of the first bullet around).
Also he said sometime due to his breathing pb he could have absent moment so maybe he had one of these ... Except being in a pre collapsing state (due to the lot of running breathless) I don't see how the ultra trained assassin could just throw himself on a katana...bah.

I still think they were jealous of him . And on this last thought I will go and rest I have a lot of things to do tomorrow. Hope everyone will be ok here and don't give up.

[utaker1988]

Clone him...I could just hand him over to you. Heh heh... then I can line up all my Thane's in my bed without having him to worry about.

I'm just saddened that Cameron or Hope didn't get the chance to answer Thane back when he said he'd try to catch up with her. They would have told him to stay put and stay safe. I could picture Hope doing the following...

Thane enters and puts a gun to Leng's head, a little fight ensues. Hope gets upset, interferes and jerk Leng runs off anyway. (We all know he likes to do that). Then turns around, asks Thane if he is alright (he's a bit winded), puts out her hand to help him up, he's up now and seems ok and then grabs him by the arm spins him around and proceeds to kick him right in the ass. With one hand on his backside, he looks at Hope with questioning eyes. "Siha, why did yo do that?" Hope is just upset, "I told you to stay put, to not put yourself in danger. I don't know about you but I can't do this if you are dead." Then kisses him. I imagine gasps of horror and maybe some vomiting noises in the background by Javik will be heard.

Then Hope decides to run after Leng with one other squadmate...Garrus. She tells Javik to stay behind with Thane and get him onto the Normandy. Now. If he tries to pull anymore heroic antics to knock him out and carry him back to the ship.

[gearseffect]

Visii wrote...

My absolute biggest issue with Thane throwing himself into that fight is... WHY?

I mean, for Kahje, for the Hanar, for the Drell, I could see him getting himself involved. But to stop Kai-Leng from killing the Salarian? What, was he just in the neighborhood? Had nothing better to do?

At the very least, shouldn't he have been a bit more concerned with Kolyat's whereabouts? Shepard & CO had a militia's worth of weaponry and the right hands to use them and then all they did was just stand there, slack-jawed and glassy-eyed while Thane and Kai-Leng fight?

*rages more*

I thought I was getting over this. Apparently not. Emotions all still there.

I still find I can't get over the stuff in ME3, no mater ho hard I try sooner or later I type something or think about something and BAM it's all right back with a vengance.