Protesting the Poor Treatment of Thane Krios' Romance
#5776
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:18
First they assume (and care very little about) straight femShep players wouldn't mind having LI taken away, specifically one that was designed for female players.
Then they assume those who play femShep are hormonal teen boys and attempt to make femShep canoncilly lesbian and through female LIs at her without making up for the male LIs that was lost.
They further assume that if you don't make femShep a lesbian, Garrus and Kaidan are awesome enough to make up for LIs taken away, and don't add to it.
Frankly, it's insulting. They take away choices for femShep, assume players only want HLA, and then assume what male LI that are left would be enough. And it's even more insulting that maleShep doesn't get this to happen to him.
People should be pushing for equality for all characters, not just for the writer's pet and maybe a select few others,
Addendum: For the deal with it comments, I'm sure no one would be saying deal with it to Talimancers if she hooked u[p with Kal, Garrusmancers if he hooked up with (permanently) with Tali or got with that turian scout, or Liara if she got pregnant with Feron's kid. Those comments need to stop.
#5777
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:24
I am very upset that Thane kept his shirt on. WTF, c'mon BW even in his hospital bed he was still in his leathers (yes, tight leather, yummy). Mind you now his suit looked perfectly in tact. What about the hole in it from the sword? There should have been a big freaking hole by his zipper. (Hole...zipper...crash) So you are telling me that the doctor's stripped him down (hmmm...now I am slighted and miffed) after that kind of surgery, you put him back in a tight suit? Why? He should have been laying there like Kaidan was after Mars. Oh what a view! Thane, not Kaidan..gross.
Not only was I robbed of a great romance, I was robbed of a nekkid Thane. The opportunity was there..instead of that rubbish make out scene that was anything but private, why couldn't Thane and Shepard head to his room. I assume there was a bed in there, or a desk, a chair, a rocking horse..IDGAF, anything but in the waiting room. Not having it truly private took away something great. That glorious green ass! And ridges.....
Why? Oh why?
I sit here and cry whilst I slowly die.
Feeling blue and no so chipper,
I didn't get to see beyond that zipper.
I cannot rest until
I've seen that marvelous chest.
My heart and soul, fragile as glass
Broke from being robbed of that glorious green ass.
BioWare you truly burned some bridges
By denying me my ridges.
#5778
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:24
coldwetn0se wrote...
wildannie wrote...
@DineBoo it always cheers me up when people outside the thanemancers offer support, I wish others, and in particular Bioware had honoured the choices for everyone... it was very mean of them to do what they did.
@coldi I enjoyed reading your rage post, I was feeling the rage too and you put it much better than i could have... That woman was just spouting nonsense on twitter... seems like a nasty piece of work really...a silly troll at best.
Awww....don't sell yourself short, Annie. I've seen you rage with the best of them.And yes, I think you hit the nail on the head........"silly troll at best."
thanks coldi after reading her posts my ragometer hit overload and words or reason escaped me... my post would probably have ended up 95% made of ****
@Dani here's hoping we can inspire them with our determination
@utaker ...nekkid Thane
@DineBoo I think it is the perceived insult that I just can't get past, and one of the reasons I'm still here (the other one is all the lovely folks here
Modifié par wildannie, 21 mai 2012 - 08:35 .
#5779
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:33
wildannie wrote...
coldwetn0se wrote...
wildannie wrote...
@DineBoo it always cheers me up when people outside the thanemancers offer support, I wish others, and in particular Bioware had honoured the choices for everyone... it was very mean of them to do what they did.
@coldi I enjoyed reading your rage post, I was feeling the rage too and you put it much better than i could have... That woman was just spouting nonsense on twitter... seems like a nasty piece of work really...a silly troll at best.
Awww....don't sell yourself short, Annie. I've seen you rage with the best of them.And yes, I think you hit the nail on the head........"silly troll at best."
thanks coldi after reading her posts my ragometer hit overload and words or reason escaped me... my post would probably have ended up 95% made of ****so I took some deep breaths instead.
@Dani here's hoping we can inspire them with our determination
No hope my love - we definately will do it <3 Because we are Thanemancers <3 And because we looooove him
Ok and perhaps a bit beause of the ridges too
#5780
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:35
*Sends Oscar kisses to Dani.................tweeks Utakers funbags (cuz dammit, she's askin' for it *smirk*)......gives Annie a paper bag to breath into <wink>.....and "sisfists" (try saying that really fast!) Dineboo!*
#5781
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:38
coldwetn0se wrote...
to @yamainu, @utaker, @wildannie and @Dineboo:
*Sends Oscar kisses to Dani.................tweeks Utakers funbags (cuz dammit, she's askin' for it *smirk*)......gives Annie a paper bag to breath into <wink>.....and "sisfists" (try saying that really fast!) Dineboo!*
<3<3
And 3 more for Oscar, since he is giving the kisses in here xD : <3<3<3
#5782
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 08:57
ridges must never be forgotton
#5783
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 09:37
@DineBoo, I would like to mention (I'm sure you know this already) that Garrus is only available for FemShep if he was romanced in ME2. Meanwhile you go over to DudeShep, and he's got of course that blue Liara (who is for woman too remember URGGG), and you can also hook up with Ashley even if she wasn't romanced in ME1 and Liara was who you romanced.
I did that my first play through, after feeling over the whole Samara thing, and not being able to throw myself at her screaming "I care for YOU ONLY YOU please don't leave me now, NO!" and not long after that Liara tried to rape my Shep again. I'd also been feeling down because my best friend Thane died and no one noticed. So I went and Talked with Ashley on the citadel and I didn't think it would lead to the paramour achievement. As I'd read some place that the only LI's avilbe would be the ones who you'd had a history with in ME1 or ME2. I even turned Kelly's picture down before talking with Samara.
So any way I just kept picking the top paragon response with Ashley and all of a sudden my TV/Xbox goes POP and the Paramore achievement has been unlocked, I was like 'Urgg not what I was intended damnit" then it hit me "Wait if I can't have Samara then maybe I can p!ss Liara off really bad by shacking up with Ashley for one night"
Anyway where was I oh yes DudeShep can shack up with Liara, Ashley, or stay with ME2 LI Miranda, Jack, or get a picture of Tali, have his heart broken by Samara, (of course so can FemSheps), and you can get a picture of Kelly too (So can FemShep here too),
Then there is also bi/homosexual options for DudeShep, Kaidan goes both ways, and there is .
Meanwhile on there For FemShep you get, Kaidan, Thane don't exist anymore, Jacob cheated and I don't think he exists anymore ether, and you can have Garrus if you romanced him in ME2.
Meanwhile the Blue Waifu will still throw herself at you (correct me if I am wrong here please as I don't have any current FemSheps, I'm considering doing a Thane one from ME2m then importing it into ME3 just to see the content and all that stuff I keep hearing about), then Samantha (I almost typed Samara) for Bi/lesbian FemShep.
Hell BW couldn't even go and make Ashley a S/S option like they intended her and Kaidan both to be in ME1. Screw FemSheps, they don't even get Ashley as an option for S/S. BHAHAHAHA and we don't have anything against our female fans and we didn't shaft them, they got just as good a treatment as a dude fans.
BullSh!t again look at not only, Kaidan and Ashley now also compair that with Steve and Samantha it's in it's clearly stacked in Steve's favor for men again.
Sorry if I sound like I'm going to odd, but if your straight FemShep you have one of two options, Kaidan, or importing a ME2 Garrus romance FemShep into ME3.
If you are bi/lesbian FemShep, well the Blue Waifu is you main option, given Samantha was a rather lackluster half@ssed attempt that failed, and Kelly had more of a presence and more deaper content in ME2, (nearly all her content in the ME3 leaked scripts was cut out completely), Or you get the heartbreaking rage inducing fit I'm going through with Samara.
However bi/****** DudeShep gets Steve and Kaidan, both from what I understand are great well developed LI's, (and Kaidan always gave me the bi/****** vibe, but that may have something to do with I found out quite early on in my first ME1 playthrough about him and Ashley being intended as bi options). So even there the deck is stacked against female fans.
Unless your a Liara fan but Really I have a hard time even considering her due to the blatant favoritism and all that stuff.
So LI options are clearly against FemShep no matter what why they go.
The evidence is irrefutable FemSheps got shafted big time, regardless of which way they go, Thane and Jacob were ruined, Kaidan was treated like he was the only LI FemSheps ever had (outside of Garrus that is.), which in all fairness Garrus feels like a default sidekick, the way he always comes right back to Shep, yeah totally sidekick, he's there as much for the ladies as he is the men.
However I'd say that Tali isn't in the same boat as Garrus, given I've never been too found of her, she's like that stow away that finds her way back on MY Ship. She has a rabid fanbase of dudes who like her (I'm sure there are chicks who enjoy her too) however it's her dude LI fans that scream loudest about her being back. Or at lest that's the way it seems to me.
I honestly don't see how come more dudes can't admit this, (wait I can, these are the same dudes that constently tell me to move on and get over Samara, and just settle for Liara and so on).
The only way one can't see that female fans got shafted big time and extremely bad in ME3 is if one has their head so far up their own @ss for any number of reasons (be it they can't stand that women get equal treatment, or any other stupid society man better than woman sh!t, or they just don't give a sh!t so long as it don't affect them, and don't rain on their happy parade with Liara or whatever LI they have their head so far ups @ss).
WOW I did not intend to write such a huge freaking wall of text, I just started typing and it all flowed and came right out of my mind,
#5784
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 10:03
Now for your wall of text, I read it all and I agree. Anyone who thinks that FemShep got treated fairly should..well, pull their head out of the sand. I am beginning to think that there is only one true Shep in their minds...bisexual Shep. That is fine, I'm all for BiShep but my FemShep is not. She has her own bewbs to fondle, tyvm. She likes the danglies. Preferably reptilian with ridges....
Would it have killed them to throw Vega and Garrus in? Garrus is not a stretch, he's been following her around for the past few games now. Why can't they decide they lovers each other now? Why can't my Malificent have angry, hate filled, dirty sex with Vega? Or Javik maybe, he's not gotten laid in at least 50k years. Trust me, I might have given Javik a ride...FOR THE EMPIRE!!!
#5785
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 10:25
yamainu1984 wrote...
*throwing some cookies in* Aaaaaaaaaand of course one Thane Cake from Beanie:
And Dineboo: I agree with you so so much! Thank you for the support! This is really some balm to the soul of us Thanemancers
*throwing the trolls out of the window and give you some ridges instead* Don't get angry my dears(yeah I am doing this anger/high teper shouting and screaming thing for myself somtimes and we really need it xD) We know what we are fighting for and we know who we should adress to be heard
And well Chrsi Priestly again told that:
Twitter from Saodade:
Chris Priestly @BioEvilChris
@Saodade Anything is possible, but I know the DLC plans for rest of the year. Influence for next year theoretically possible.
At least no no! Ha! Think positive! And thank you Saodade for posting him! Btw.: who of this community is her/him? Sry to many names in to many platforms these days xD
it's me ;op
#5786
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 10:29
utaker1988 wrote...
@gears...you love my dirty mind, you wish you could sit in my company for a few hours. I'm glad I make you laugh.
Now for your wall of text, I read it all and I agree. Anyone who thinks that FemShep got treated fairly should..well, pull their head out of the sand. I am beginning to think that there is only one true Shep in their minds...bisexual Shep. That is fine, I'm all for BiShep but my FemShep is not. She has her own bewbs to fondle, tyvm. She likes the danglies. Preferably reptilian with ridges....
Would it have killed them to throw Vega and Garrus in? Garrus is not a stretch, he's been following her around for the past few games now. Why can't they decide they lovers each other now? Why can't my Malificent have angry, hate filled, dirty sex with Vega? Or Javik maybe, he's not gotten laid in at least 50k years. Trust me, I might have given Javik a ride...FOR THE EMPIRE!!!
I spit out my drink on my computer screen!!
Although nothing will take the place of <ridges>
#5787
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 10:52
#5788
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 11:26
There is too much butchering to femSheps LIs for it to be just oversight and a mistake. It feels intentional on BW part.
They couldn't throw in Vega? Or Javik? I'd do it for the empire, too
And yep, even lesbian femSheps get shafted. If you don't go after the blue waifu, you lose out on deep meaningful content (RME) since Sam is treated as HLA content. I mean, it's just a few convos and bam! Awkward lesbian shower scene that I could write better myself. How come she couldn't go around the Citadel like Cortez does on shore leave? Why does gay maleShep get nice gay LI storylines while femShep either gets Liara or teenage fantasy scene with Sam? And why couldn't Ash be bi if they could make Kaidan be bi?
The blatant shoddy treatment of femShep really shows where BW interests truly lie. As femShep, you're either supposed to get with the canon LI Liara, get with Kaidan, or be happy with Garrus. And be happy about it. Notice how femsheps replayability goes down because of how limited her LI choices are. While maleShep gets his choice of numerous alien and human LIs, and get decent content. Miranda and Jack might have gotten shortchanged, but they didn't cheat or die on you.
TLDR, I feel for you guys. Hopefully someone is listening to you. Thane deserves better.. Everyone (save Liara) deserves better.
#5789
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 11:31
In which case it has nothing to do with targeting bi FemSheps, and everything to do with the blow up doll hidden between their legs, and in the case of that Cortney or whatever from twitter between her legs with a vibrating banana like shaped object stuffed in the dolls face orifice and the other end is well you know where and what it's doing.
If it was about bi FemSheps then we certainly would have gotten the private video chats with Kelly as a main LI which were in the leaked scripts. In them Kelly told Shep much of her background and how she ended up working for Cerberus and about ol' TIM trying to get in her pants but she didn't let him.
You'd also have seen Ashley bi content like Kaidan. Samantha would have been made a far more interesting and more well thought out character for lesbian FemShep like Steve was for ****** DudeShep.
I guess BW just figured the hadn't ever had male same sex in ME3 so they'd better do that in ME3 with Kaidan and Steve.
However they just figured they'd not even half @ssed it with Samantha. Cut Kelly Chambers (who was openly bi from the start and many people both men and women liked her already) Kelly got about 95% of her leaked content cut from the finale game in ME3, all that was left was basically all the different ways she can die.
SO now here again to me it looks like yet another blatant attempt at forcing the Blue Waifu on players as their LI.
The only reason that many fans are not as upset and angry over ME3 and pushing as hard as those here in the present company and a few other fan threads, is because their LI just needs an extra DLC and then the game will be fine.
Chick fans got royally shafted and straight chicks got the worst shaft ever.
Dude fans got plenty of their LIs back and high hopes/chances of future DLC content, for Miranda and Jack, hell and maybe even more DLC content with Ashley. Which if there is gonna be Ashley content I am certain that it will come with extra Kiadan content to slap you chicks in the face some more.
Oh and of curse I am certain that the blueberry will have more content too, after all the doll is still vacuuming their brains out through their dicks, or in the case of that chick well you get the idea.
Either way you cut it Female Shep got shafted compared to male Shep regardless of sexual orientation.
Unless of course you a in the forever faithfully to the blueberry pet, which those hard core fans are in a whole nether galaxy then the rest of us, their off in lay land along with BW and the blue dolls. God god man and people don't get why there is so much hate, aggression, and spite towards the true blue pet. After ME3 she's left many fans with blue balls.
My god I am on a roll today it just flows right on out of me
#5790
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 02:25
#5791
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 02:47
The audacity of an employee on twitter saying we should be happy with Thane's death just shows me that we (as female fans) weren't thought of as anything more then an expendable audience. They threw us a bone with Garrus and Kaidan, but they could be totally unavailable. It just really boils my potatos.
#5792
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 03:03
PorcelynDoll wrote...
My personal feelings are that they through female fans under the bus.
The audacity of an employee on twitter saying we should be happy with Thane's death just shows me that we (as female fans) weren't thought of as anything more then an expendable audience. They threw us a bone with Garrus and Kaidan, but they could be totally unavailable. It just really boils my potatos.
I quite frankly feel terrible for those of you who romanced Thane. I myself didn't romance Thane but I have been video scouring on youtube and the way he was handled was atrocious at best. The death scene hit me the most, it was extremely loveless. Female players got rear ended with the romances (no pun intended) while male players took priority. That's the way it seemed to me anyways.
#5793
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 04:07
Awwww, I missed the good stuff AGAIN?! Hrumph *sulks*
@Porcelyn - Agreed. And seeing as they told us that Thane was specifically marketed to female gamers - what did they THINK was gonna happen when they killed him off? F-kers...grrrr.
#5794
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 04:27
Tashash wrote...
@Porcelyn - Agreed. And seeing as they told us that Thane was specifically marketed to female gamers - what did they THINK was gonna happen when they killed him off? F-kers...grrrr.
This is what ticks me off the most. How can you forget about an LI you specifically created for female gamers? Where they that wrapped up in that fail of duel scene? It sounds like they needed a good beta to say to the writers "Hey! Thanes's an LI! He doesn't want to die if romanced!"
To be honsest though, it just feels like a flimsy excuse, and more intentional on their parts to wittle down femShep pairings:
Thane: "Oh, we forgot he was an LI. Besides, you knew he was dieing."
Jacob: "Him? Oh, well no one likef him anyway. So we gave him a girlfirend who gets pregnant and knew he was involved with femShep,"
Samara: "What promise of a possible romance? Besides, you can have Liara"
Samantha: "She's only there for HLA for horny teenage boys. Besides, Steve's more deserving of mature content along with Kaidan."
Ashley: "Only maleShep deserves a bi human LI. So we cut out most of her post Citadel lines."
Bah. I'm angry all over again.
#5795
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 04:51

And HELLO new posters!! Welcome.....sorry for bad jokes. We're a bit addicted to them.....bad jokes, bad puns, silly limricks, insane dialogues......zippers............and when that doesn't help; we rant!
#5796
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 04:52
DineBoo wrote...
This is what ticks me off the most. How can you forget about an LI you specifically created for female gamers? Where they that wrapped up in that fail of duel scene? It sounds like they needed a good beta to say to the writers "Hey! Thanes's an LI! He doesn't want to die if romanced!"
To be honsest though, it just feels like a flimsy excuse, and more intentional on their parts to wittle down femShep pairings:
Thane: "Oh, we forgot he was an LI. Besides, you knew he was dieing."
Jacob: "Him? Oh, well no one likef him anyway. So we gave him a girlfirend who gets pregnant and knew he was involved with femShep,"
Samara: "What promise of a possible romance? Besides, you can have Liara"
Samantha: "She's only there for HLA for horny teenage boys. Besides, Steve's more deserving of mature content along with Kaidan."
Ashley: "Only maleShep deserves a bi human LI. So we cut out most of her post Citadel lines."
Bah. I'm angry all over again.
It's like they WANT the wrath of angry feminism to befall them.....And what kind of idiot wants that? Are they all secret masochists now?
#5797
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:38
Tashash wrote...
DineBoo wrote...
This is what ticks me off the most. How can you forget about an LI you specifically created for female gamers? Where they that wrapped up in that fail of duel scene? It sounds like they needed a good beta to say to the writers "Hey! Thanes's an LI! He doesn't want to die if romanced!"
To be honsest though, it just feels like a flimsy excuse, and more intentional on their parts to wittle down femShep pairings:
Thane: "Oh, we forgot he was an LI. Besides, you knew he was dieing."
Jacob: "Him? Oh, well no one likef him anyway. So we gave him a girlfirend who gets pregnant and knew he was involved with femShep,"
Samara: "What promise of a possible romance? Besides, you can have Liara"
Samantha: "She's only there for HLA for horny teenage boys. Besides, Steve's more deserving of mature content along with Kaidan."
Ashley: "Only maleShep deserves a bi human LI. So we cut out most of her post Citadel lines."
Bah. I'm angry all over again.
It's like they WANT the wrath of angry feminism to befall them.....And what kind of idiot wants that? Are they all secret masochists now?
I guess they don't think there are enough of us so they didn't care.
How could they think that doing this to femshep and the ME2 squad would be ok.
Modifié par JECW, 22 mai 2012 - 05:51 .
#5798
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:49
But, if they thought they had enough female gamers to put the effort into creating Thane......It it really that much more effort to keep him?
Seriously, they didn't just screw the pooch, they violated the entire animal shelter....That sounds really wrong dosen't it?
*Sigh* And still no feedback from Felicia Day
#5799
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:56
That's what will never make any sense.
They created him for female fans. They put him on the cover of ME2, and in most of the advertising. Now they just toss him aside like he was nothing. What was the purpose of creating him if this was what they were going to do to him in the end.
I'm starting to really wonder if anyone at that company knows what they are doing.
#5800
Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:59
JECW wrote...
@Tashash
That's what will never make any sense.
They created him for female fans. They put him on the cover of ME2, and in most of the advertising. Now they just toss him aside like he was nothing. What was the purpose of creating him if this was what they were going to do to him in the end.
I'm starting to really wonder if anyone at that company knows what they are doing.
LSD in the vents....That's my theory.





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