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[mnomaha]

I've never heard that before Jecw. I've always read that he was designed for female gamers.

[JECW]

mnomaha wrote...

I've never heard that before Jecw. I've always read that he was designed for female gamers.

He was. I think it might have been a rumor because of those files from MShep.
I've just read it on hear that they think he was. I don't think the developers ever said he was. They have only said he was designed for women so I don't know why those files exist.

[Renmiri1]

 Added a letter to the "story" post, hope is not too late. Oh and also added a lil concept on how a thane DLC could work without changing the ME3 story much: His body gets stolen by Cerberus and revived, to blackmail Sheppard. Shep can pretend to go along with it and then bust Thane out of the Cerberus lab. Then after one or two adventures Thane goes back to the Citadel to stay with his son for a little while. It integrates seamlessly with the  ME3 story. http://www.fanfictio...Thane_based_DLC

I am hearing awful things about ME3's ending.  I don't want a bad ME3 finale to taint my love for the series or take away my joy at  a new ME2 playthrough. Is it worth grinding through the missions and finishing it ?

Modifié par Renmiri1, 27 mai 2012 - 02:25 .

[PorcelynDoll]

Renmiri1 wrote...

 Added a letter to the "story" post, hope is not too late. Oh and also added a lil concept on how a thane DLC could work without changing the ME3 story much: His body gets stolen by Cerberus and revived, to blackmail Sheppard. Shep can pretend to go along with it and then bust Thane out of the Cerberus lab. Then after one or two adventures Thane goes back to the Citadel to stay with his son for a little while. It integrates seamlessly with the  ME3 story. http://www.fanfictio...Thane_based_DLC

I am hearing awful things about ME3's ending.  I don't want a bad ME3 finale to taint my love for the series or take away my joy at  a new ME2 playthrough. Is it worth grinding through the missions and finishing it ?

So you haven't played/finished ME3? Well, we will be here for you when you do.

[mnomaha]

@Renmiri...I only have one playthrough. The ending was just the last straw in an already ruined game. Whether you finish it is really up to you, but the ending really is awful. If you game is already ruined, you might as well finish it.

[utaker1988]

The ending is horrid but I was tainted the moment I noticed they lobotomized my Shepard and Thane. Oh let's see, how can I do this without spoiling it completely. If you are upset that you didn't have a choice to save Thane, then you will feel the same about the ending.

This is my opinion but even if I never romanced Thane, I would find no reason to play this game because of that train wreck they call an ending. There is a reason why they are doing a clarification DLC for the ending. It wasn't just a few people who roared, it was a few thousand or more.

I will replay the game, or certain scenes so I can play with the fly cam and find ridiculous camera angles like this:


Screw you guys, I'm going to find my cure...you can deal with Captain Crunch in the Nightwing attire.

[Renmiri1]

Ya it is already ruined and I just got all the ME2 dlc content i could find so I'm going to play that. Might finish ME3 after I play all that Depends on the free DLC ending fix they make.

[utaker1988]

Here I am with my daily protesting. Thane did not deserve to be stabbed by the Ninja Warrior Reject. We all know that Thane is the better assassin and better dresser, so why is he being sacrificed? I am tired of the "Thane was dying so he must die" statements. Well, we all must die it is the way of life but why not live well in the time left? Thane didn't get to live well, his life has mostly been a giant crapfest right on his head. Taken from his family at 6 to become an assassin, finding love and starting a family only to resort to assassinating again thus leaving his happiness and family behind, losing his wife, disconnecting from his son, living a life of solitude again, in this time he finds out he has an incurable disease, then joins a suicide mission and finds his son and love again...only to have it snatched away from him. What more do you want to pile on this guy? Couldn't he have just a little happiness? Was that too much to ask? What's wrong? Blue is better than green? Poor Thane.

Now onto a lesser but valid (at least to me) protest. His suit. It isn't necessary. He could do just fine without it. As a matter of fact, I want mod tools to correct this.

[JECW]

Ninja Warrior reject is probably the best description for Kai Leng. This is the best they could do. Someone who runs away and tells you to shut up. Was he suppose to sound like he was 10. Thane deserved so much better than that.

[Saodade]

Any how Kai Leng is an insult for the Ninja caste. I doubt any real secret agent who is supposed to possess his martial art at his highest would have fight a target in the open in the middle of a room filled with armed ennemies.

Well except Mark Dacascos in Crying freeman (sigh) but he is more related to Thane in my mind anyways..."fall in drelliscious reveries"...

Plus I would have TOTALLY exptected that Kasumi would have shadow style followed Kai Leng and did some things to annoy him like changing his katana for a huge asparagus (imagine the face ahaha) or seeing his pants falling suddenly in fight and making trip on his own saber...

Oh and HOW possible miss Liara T'soni-super-info-gatherer-shadow broker had NOT ONE SINGLE CLUE of the Udina projects? We could see him all over her video recording doing weird deals... Was she expecting Shepard would actually pay for these?? DO you really wish to be greeted by Sally and her 4 other sisters tsotso??

The only explanation I have about Shepard, quietly looking her sick and wheezing lover being stabbed by this new ennemy, s that the action happened at vampire speed (both assassin moving so fast ).
They could have put a slow motion effect or a slow music to figure it was slowed then to help uys figure it out.
And so Shepard with all her super implants could see it all before her own brain (who is implanted too but lets say there wasn't enough power to aliment the brain implant too), before her own brain, so, could help her react on it.
She stayed there looking the scene astonished and could not move. Fear strucked.

Comander Shepard guys?
The one who is over trained since years to fight the fastest viciousest badassest ennemies in the whole universe?
The one who SOLO REAPER ALONE !!!

The Steve Austined Shepard ??

Really? She suddenly lose her mind and just watch? Want some popcorn? A Monbazillac?

I understand people can be stunned in great danger. I have seen people stunned by a sudden violent action. But Shepard don't look like the type for me. she is an action reaction woman.(Or man when it is a male Shepard)

Well so maybe when she got caught on the arrival dlc and they captured her there they added this control ship that illusive man had refused at start. or maybe they impregnated her with reaper cells like some "gohahoulds" would in stargate? So she was under influence.
Or depressive ? If there is a psychoterapist around there who could tell me if it is possible to be chronically despressed in the middle of hyper active life?
I would think it could happen after the action. Like while she was "jailed". But when she join Anderson and they speak she don't seem lower spirited to me she even argue with him about being punished and she is all " ok we lost time now gogogo action gooo!"

So lets resume:
She saw the fight in slow motion mode but had not the time to react before the Thane death wich awaken her and drive her to chase the Stereotype assassin.
She is missing a part of her brain and/or is under control ship wich make her act as a sheep. (lol ship sheep)

Bah...I'm not as talented writer than those actually employed in the team, and since they keep secret their intended plot for surprise sake I'm just speculating riht?

But they wanted us to speculate any how...Just not sure they wanted us to speculate on "how is it possible to let Thane jump alone on the Leng saber " than the ending...

If REALLY they want him to die wich seem to be the case, then they could add Thane adventure DLC before that event there is plenty of place before it is easy: just need a mail in game and hop the action is starting like they did for all the other missions. Or eventually a gossip somewhere giving them info. But I guess it is easier to add a typed message in game than recording new voices for gossipers. Don't know.
SO for adding a dlc adventure is possible and a source of money for them.

As I keep saying any new DLC will be bought:
-1) by the Thane mancers
-2) by those who just find him cool
-3) by those who don't care about him but need new missions cause they did all the others and are bored
-4) by those who just want to say they had all the DLC
-5) by those who look for further material to critic the fact hat Bioware finally decided to be nice to us. Since I start to think that the team just love to troll the opposants just because.

I really wish someone from the decisional crew if not the boss himself could happen to read all my babbling and think after all we are not just a bunch of noisy creepers but some sensed people who really care for one of their creatures. Such dedication could not be wasted isn't it ?

Modifié par Saodade, 27 mai 2012 - 08:51 .

[mnomaha]

@Saodade...je t'aime.

[Saodade]

/blush lol me too

edit: I mean I love you too lol  I do love me too  but  I was not intend to tell I love myself too...bah...

Modifié par Saodade, 27 mai 2012 - 10:52 .

[gearseffect]

utaker1988 wrote...



I will replay the game, or certain scenes so I can play with the fly cam and find ridiculous camera angles like this:

Wait don't tell me the dialogue option for "Let's find some privacy" is what triggers the dry humping in the lobby thing?

BTW which Shep is this? She's got some fine thighs. Thane's one tumb is doing the Wrex finger inside his chin thing.

@JECW never heard that about Thane. I do know that both Kaidan and Ashley back in ME1 had been intended to be bi characters but it never happened. Then in ME3 BW goes and does that with Kaidan and they just take another giant dump on their female fans by screwing over the countless fangirls who had been fighting for Ashley as a bi LI for ages. Ohh but wait it's ok because they can just settle for Liara and be happy.


@Saodade I think the reason Liara didn't know about Udina's Cerberus ties (which have been hinted at since the Assencsion novel and ME2) is because she's a very bad information broker.

I mean look at the evidance she had to have Shep find out who the observer was, she had to have Cerberus give Shepard data to finally be able to track down the Shadow Broker.

She keeps telling Shepard things like "I'm a very good informantion broker" as if she is trying to make herself believe it.

Heck when Shep brings up the thing about her dad being right over there
Shep: "The asari bartender over there"
Liara: "TYou mean the Martriarch hired by asari command to spy on me?"
Sheps: "Yeah she's your dad"
Liara: "I know"
Shep: "Uh-ha, and how do you know that"
Liara: "Shepard please I'm an information traded, I wouldn't be a very good one if I didn't already know that now would I"
Shep "Liara you should go talk to her"
Liara: "Why? I don't think so"


She she keeps saying she's a very good information broker but I don't think she is, Hell Hackett's the one who reached out to her and extended the invation to get her acess to the Mars archives. Liara isn't a very good information trader.

[Saodade]

@Gearseffect your are right. Also I don't like admiral Hackett. he is a bastard. he sent Shepard to blow up the big comet . Right. but for the sake of war assets preparation since he perfectly KNEW that Shepard would be crucial for the gathering (since spectre = validate her words for most of the species across the galaxies) and that the reapers were at our universe part gates. Since he used his influence to delay Shepard's jailing, he could have said in secret to the interested ones that it was HIS command behind Shepards actions. But no, he sacrify Shepard in letting her turning herself in. Good operation for him: She did de good job, she is the guilty one on the whole universe eyes, and he will be able to reach the supreme seat of humanity and Earth place on counsil.
I often asked myself he Hackett and Illusive man wasn't like some sort of ennemy brothers. I have not read the books about tim to leave me some room for my own ideas in game. Maybe it is mentioned somewhere. But it really make me feel like if Tim is concurent with Hackett as are Magneto and Xavier. But Hackett is a very very nasty renegade xavier ...

Big traitors grrrr. because of him Shepard lost so many time with Thane. I have once wished my shepard could go rogue and ruined him. Using Liara for diffusing the news about his implication in Shepard misfortune.

[coldwetn0se]

Damn I am starting to sound like a broken record, but so be it. @Saodade, I think you're posts are great. I believe that IF they do ever include Thane in DLC, that it will be BEFORE the Citadel Coup, and everything regarding the Coup will play out exactly as it does now. And here is where I yet again, repeat myself:

For me (and I am strictly speaking for myself here.....though there may be others that think on the same lines), because the current content we got is SO immersion breaking, I just can't see being at all satisfied with new Thane content (via DLC) that comes before the Coup, just to have the same immersion breaking content to continue AFTER the Coup. Besides, one of the worst offenders to the current Thane content, is in that first set (and only) of dialogue options with Thane at the hospital. It is so messy to me....bleh! For any new Thane DLC content that includes romance content, I think most Thanemancers would agree, we would need to always make sure that you played out the current dialogue first, THEN the DLC since the current dialogue (for romance) is so tacked on and off putting.

Bah.....I'm not sure I am making any sense, and I am running late to meeting my hiking partner. I will be back later to clean up this mess of a post. Seeya soon, lovelies!!!

[PorcelynDoll]

What would be the point of the dlc if it doesn't change anything? I would not be satisfied if he still dies. Without a choice any dlc is useless in my opinion anyway.

[wildannie]

Yup, I'm with coldi & porcelyn... not interested unless a thane lives option becomes available.

[Saodade]

I would be interested in a dlc content for spending time with Thane. BUT of course I hate the hospital dialog. they are not what the Thane who said Shepard all the time I have left is yours to take. He is a drell he have perfect memory why would he suddenly forget his promises? Plus he is not the type to xhange his mind after engaging himself with someone specially the woman he call siha. Only is deceased wife he called siha. it mean something to him. it was not just a shag.
And what hurt a lot is that everyone even super buddy Garrus who notice everything , even Joker who can't stop speak otherwise, even shadow broker blue, even chakwas ... none come see Shepard and ask if she is ok. No. But some others come and feel it is the good time to hit on her...And I won't start on kaidan...

I wish they make the dialog more logic more coherent for people who are supposed to be lovers. They could eventually be ok for a colleague but not lovers...
If  Shepard  ask about private  time I want she   and him goes  somewhere else than the  hospital. Eventually  her  Normandy quarter or  some  high standing hotel or in the ancient   house of the  favorite she owe  shepard after all ;op
And I want to see   decent action not some  strange  rubbing (or was  it scrubing    with the   moans?) I want a little tenderness between them. 
And I really really wish we have the option in the choice wheel to grab him and put him in the Normandy and make Chakwas use the Mordin secret researches and save him.
I was just speaking about the content DLC cause really when you date Garrus you got a super romantic date with cuddles, kisses fun etc.
What we got here is pathetic and lack of the class Thane had us used when interacting with him. It was... poor.

I just wish they could realise that it will change nothing to the game ending to allow us a decent romance and to save Thane (wish I am participating on twitter and forums here etc).

It is hard to express myself clearly too here :/ I often use big sentences to run around what I want to say and hope someone understand . Plus it hurt to type lol

Modifié par Saodade, 27 mai 2012 - 08:39 .

[coldwetn0se]

Back from my hike......

@Saodade - You express yourself wonderfully, and I follow what you are saying just fine. (considering my French is nonexistant, I would say your skills are quite impressive and I personally am in awe of those that can communicate in more than one language.) I am in agreement that having more quality "romance" content would be wonderful, considering how appalling it is now. I just am worried that they will again put in the least amount of effort for any romance content we "could" get in some kind of DLC. Combining that with what already exists in the base game (again; very immersion breaking IMO), and I do not expect that to satisfy me. If they decide to ADD in an option, or use existing circumstances in the game to ADD new content that would indicate an extention on his life (while still allowing everything to remain the same for those that want it), THEN give us DLC that added new Thane content (romance content as well).........THIS is what I could truly get behind. Simple reason; what we have now is broken. Broken Shepard, broken Thane, broken romance arc.

I don't think I need to post it again (already spammed it a few times over the past couple months...people are going to get sick of it....HA!) , but myself and others have come up with ideas of how they could implement this without actually "changing" the base game. Thus allowing for new Thane content (via DLC) to be added later for those that wished to extend his life. Hell, just like in Legacy and MotA for DA2, they could even have the DLC reflect whether or not you chose the "extend" option based solely on WHEN you played it (Act wise) in the game. In Legacy, there is different dialogue, banter and epilogue based on what act you played in and who you romanced. Same with MotA. No reason the DLC couldn't use something like that. That way, if someone say chose to NOT take the necessary steps to extend Thane's life, but played the DLC BEFORE the Coup, then it would reflect as such (and Thane content could still be accessed). This would then make the DLC truly replayable. Multiple possibilities.

I replay Legacy and MotA BECAUSE I can get different banter and dialogue (and epilogue with Legacy) just by being in different relationships, playing them in different Acts, and bringing different companions. I believe they could implement something like this, but the question is, will they.........?

[Jenlocks]

Saodade wrote...

I would be interested in a dlc content for spending time with Thane. BUT of course I hate the hospital dialog. they are not what the Thane who said Shepard all the time I have left is yours to take. He is a drell he have perfect memory why would he suddenly forget his promises? Plus he is not the type to xhange his mind after engaging himself with someone specially the woman he call siha. Only is deceased wife he called siha. it mean something to him. it was not just a shag.
And what hurt a lot is that everyone even super buddy Garrus who notice everything , even Joker who can't stop speak otherwise, even shadow broker blue, even chakwas ... none come see Shepard and ask if she is ok. No. But some others come and feel it is the good time to hit on her...And I won't start on kaidan...

I wish they make the dialog more logic more coherent for people who are supposed to be lovers. They could eventually be ok for a colleague but not lovers...
If  Shepard  ask about private  time I want she   and him goes  somewhere else than the  hospital. Eventually  her  Normandy quarter or  some  high standing hotel or in the ancient   house of the  favorite she owe  shepard after all ;op
And I want to see   decent action not some  strange  rubbing (or was  it scrubing    with the   moans?) I want a little tenderness between them. 
And I really really wish we have the option in the choice wheel to grab him and put him in the Normandy and make Chakwas use the Mordin secret researches and save him.
I was just speaking about the content DLC cause really when you date Garrus you got a super romantic date with cuddles, kisses fun etc.
What we got here is pathetic and lack of the class Thane had us used when interacting with him. It was... poor.

I just wish they could realise that it will change nothing to the game ending to allow us a decent romance and to save Thane (wish I am participating on twitter and forums here etc).

It is hard to express myself clearly too here :/ I often use big sentences to run around what I want to say and hope someone understand . Plus it hurt to type lol

Exactly! Why why why even have Thane as a romance option in ME2 if he's not even an option/doesn't count in this game?! That date with Garrus was nice and cute and made me soooo mad because they cared enough about that one but not about Thane   bioware.. please stop picking our game choices for us..it makes us sad.

Just to have the option of something cute and meaningful would have been nice but instead we get autodialogued to death and no options at all. There needs to be some dlc to make it equal..i wish they would see that and care about it. Fix the romance and give the option for saving Thane..like the rest of the LI's got. 

[DineBoo]

bioware.. please stop picking our game choices for us..it makes us sad.

This! Why give us choices, especially choice specifically geared toward us, then take them away with auto death and cheating? And then you force your choice on us, knowing there's really nothing we can do about.

I did not fall in love with the series just to have my choice taken away because I failed to like the blueberry or the VS with trust issues. I think team dextro got extremely lucky, because I think if BW had their way, it would be Liara/VS only.

I still don't understand why they gave us all the choices, only take away mainly femsheps in the end. It's like they wanted to do a new IP or something, but shoehorned it in at he expense of the ME fandom.

[utaker1988]

LOL....I just got back from dinner with my sister and her fiance. He's a gamer but does not play Mass Effect so I decided to pose the issue with him. All he said was, "hold up, you said there is an option to ask if can help him before his death scene?" I said, "yep." I then explained the mechanics of the game, choices, fetch quests. He just said, "if they want to fix it, why not have one of the fetch quests...alien medi gel tie to that dialogue option. if you didn't pick it up, it plays the same, if you did, he doesn't die then they can add dlc to expand on his romance. he is treated but not yet cured." He said simple, a monkey could do it. I then said but there are some that want him to die and what if they pick it up for the war assets not realizing they just saved him. He said then tie the quest and the question together. If you don't ask the question, you obviously don't give a crap about saving him. Or just don't visit him after the fight. I think it's simple but something that too many Pro-Death people would complain about.

Then he really wanted to know if some people would really be that butthurt if they accidentally saved him. This coming from someone who does not know the game. To me it's no different than Miranda, she can die if you fail to help her in one dialogue. And I don't see anyone crying because your choice in dialogue changes Miranda's fate. Why can't a simple choice in dialogue change Thane's fate?

I also don't want the argument "he said he was dying, that's why it's not fair he lives." Who cares, doctors are wrong all the time, they are people and prone to mistakes. Thane said it himself according to one doctor his time was up months ago. He continues to find that will to live. I think if he had not run into Leng's blade, he would have kept breathing. Thane did not have to die. He doesn't have to be treated either. It is not impossible to think that he kept beating the odds and fighting for life just so that he could see Shepard beat the reapers. That Thane existed in ME2 and he could have existed in ME3 if some didn't feel the need to force drama down our throats. There is no reason why he could not have been alive for a final conversation with Shepard on Earth via holo. A doctor once told my nephew at 12 years old he had 4-6 months, he lived until he was 17. His will to fight was strong. That is not space magic or fan service, that stuff happens in real life.

Those who wanted him dead, fine..kill him off in the SM or leave him unloyal. That is what should have happened but someone got the bright idea that just because he said he was dying, that he MUST. I never said he had to live forever, I just wanted him alive at the end of the game. I could head canon my way into finding a cure for him, at least I could do that because hell, he would still be alive. But in the end, it will all be a moot point because I will follow that sparkly vampire's words of wisdom...if they don't fix Thane then to me, "it will be like Mass Effect 3 never existed."

[mnomaha]

I just had a random thought about the alleged surrender Shep supposedly did at the beginning of ME3...

There's Anya (Well she's wearing a hat), running around bare ass naked, high on Thane, screaming "You'll never take me alive! Thane! Quick, grab the banana!"

[mnomaha]

@utaker...a monkey could do it, but whoever "wrote" Thane in ME3 apparently couldn't even do that much.

Sad that someone with less creative cognitive abilities is making far more money than me.

[Renmiri1]

If Thane was with Sheppard no one would have taken her

Second playthrough of ME2, first thing i did after the option opened was grab him and have him on the Env Controls room.

Thanks for the info, I really don't think I will play ME3 until the DLC. Not worth it, Thane's death already left a bad taste and if Sheppard dies too I hit "Uninstall"!!!

Modifié par Renmiri1, 28 mai 2012 - 02:05 .