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[Renmiri1]

 Doesn't it suck getting out of the elevator on crew's Deck on ME3 ? You see Thane's room right away and he isn't there and then you look at the plaque on the wall and he is there 

[mnomaha]

What I don't understand and I mean I truly do not...is why they left it open in the first place. And why bother closing the shutter? Was it an intentional twist of the knife? To me, it's like putting Liara in Miri's room. I had a hard enough time with Javik in Grunt's room and those two idiot chicks (don't get me started on that scanner) in Mordin's room. And what's with the boxes in the armoury? And the absolute crappy job in Shep's cabin. They completely fuglified the Normandy.

...where was I going with this? So hell no, nobody needs to be in life support but Thane. And that is providing he *needs* to be there, instead of my cabin.

[Confused-Shepard]

Provided Thane lives ONLY if you romances him. What kind of interaction would you have liked to see?

Modifié par Confused-Shepard, 29 mai 2012 - 08:38 .

[Emeraldfern]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Provided Thane lives ONLY if you romances him. What kind of interaction would you have liked to see?

Hmm...

Well I for one would love to take him on that desert vacation. Preferrably Shep's apartment on Intai'Sei.

(I know I keep bringing that apartment up don't I?)

And of course a proper romance scene. Not necessary anything graphic, (though I wouldn't say no to <ridges> obviously) but rather something intimate yet beautiful if you know what I mean. (Hope I'm making sense here brain has not had enough coffee yet)


I'd also love it for them to have convo's regarding Kolyat, the state of the galaxy and a proper farewell in London (like all the other surviving characters).

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 29 mai 2012 - 09:03 .

[Saodade]

It would be something very tender but passionate from what I have caught from Thane. Is is all restrained feelings but his body talk for himself about easy moves and precision

Have drelliscious dreams all and lot of fun! FOR THE CURE!!

[Lucky Thirteen]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@LT- hmmm.......not entirely sure why this is upsetting you, and if I am reading you incorrectly, then sorry for my assumptions.

No, you're entirely right. People need to have choices. I'm getting upset because I keep feeling like there is the passive aggressive hate coming out of the Thane fan base. I wasn't reading it as this player is RPing Shepard this way, I read it as, this player is irrationally takeing their anger out on other characters in the game. It doesn't help when people say, they don't like certain characters personally and when people threaten to cut Bioware employee balls off all because a new character is useing Thane's old room.


In the RP sense, I don't see how Thane would go for someone like that. I mean, he tries so hard to make sure his son doesn't follow in his footsteps, he considers his actions towards the batarians a mistake. Do these Shepards spend time trying to convince him it was okay what he did? Or do they avoid the conversation entirely because of conflicting interests.

In this fic I'm writing out, it's after the destruction of the Bahak system. My Shepard feels guilty about what she did, but she's avoiding being arrested. Thane doesn't really support this, he suggests she turns herself in. In the case of these players saying their Shepard would fight off arrest, how would they react if Thane says that is the wrong thing to do. Or do these players seriously think that Thane would completely overlook the fact Shepard commited genocide and run and hide with Shepard.

[Renmiri1]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Provided Thane lives ONLY if you romances him. What kind of interaction would you have liked to see?

You know how on ME2 you could always go to joker after each mission to ask about the squad and laugh at him and EDI bickering ?  I miss that on ME3. Thane could be on Sheppards cabin advising her about the hanar (or something) and could have a chat after each mission. And some snogging ^^

[mnomaha]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Provided Thane lives ONLY if you romances him. What kind of interaction would you have liked to see?

You know how on ME2 you could always go to joker after each mission to ask about the squad and laugh at him and EDI bickering ?  I miss that on ME3. Thane could be on Sheppards cabin advising her about the hanar (or something) and could have a chat after each mission. And some snogging ^^

I would be quite content with this.

[utaker1988]

I am content with almost anything, except my impending college costs. Holy cow, to finally finish that last semester is going to cost more than an arm and a leg. I should have completed it 10 years ago. Regardless, I must finish it even if I know it will cause the nightmares to come back.

I would like a fix for Thane's romance, just so I can finally finish Faith's story. She just isn't strong enough to deal with his death. I don't know why I gave her the personality I did, she would be the type of person you would say, "Just why is she even in the military and leading people when she's so laid back, skittish, almost innocent and naive." She is by far the hardest Shepard I have because I have to sit back and think about how this fits her. She doesn't like to kill anyone, so why is she holding a gun? Why did I give her this personality? I can't send her to the end of the game. She would never merge anyone's DNA, she would never try to control anything not even reapers, and she'd go mad with destroy just knowing she's destroying the Geth and EDI. I can't even kill her with destroy now because she'd make the peace, cure the genophage, do all the fetch quests and my GaW assets are too high right now and she'd live. The way she's done she would not be able to live with destroying an entire race. I don't want her to die but I know she'd be able to take it better if she had Thane waiting for her to help her get over such feelings. Faith didn't do Arrival because I knew it wasn't in her to blow up an entire system. So, I still ask myself, why is she even in the military.

[coldwetn0se]

@Saodade - Sweet dreams, and hope all goes well at the doctor's office, regarding your hand.

@Renmiri - I actually really like that idea.....who knew that something so simple and sweet would be so appealing.

@LT - An interesting train of though on Thane not agreeing/agreeing with a Shep who let all the Batarians die in Arrival. I admit to even changing Thane's character based on the Shepards I role play......not much, but a little. We all can be influenced by those we are closest to (just as they can influence us).

I ended up only finishing that DLC once (was way too railroaded for my taste, but that's just me.....besides; it was a very 'lonely' DLC. No squaddies.....sigh). This was with my Cate Shepard (paragade Engineer; quite pragmatic among other things...heh!). She tried to warn the Batarians, and used mostly paragon choices through the whole DLC. By the time Hackett arrived on board the Normandy, I and my Shepard, were not to happy with Hackett's line of thoughts/questioning. Being the pragmatist that she is, she would never simply hand herself over to the Alliance.....she would see them as inaffectual when it came to dealing with the Reapers. Because of this, (and the fact that she told TIM to p*ss off....*smirk*) she would have taken the Normandy and started trying to rally troops as best she could. She would have taken advantage of her decent relationship with Aria, her friend Liara (now the Shadow Broker) and every other ally she had accumulated over the past two games, and use it to gather an army. Even small, this would have eventually caught the attention of other planets, possibly even Citadel races. And lets not forget; her current squad of 12 were connections in and of themselves. Perhaps with a bit of notice from the Council and the Alliance, the tide might have changed (perhaps wishful thinking, but I say, why not......), and they would have seen these growing alliances for what they were.....the guardians of the Galaxy. Submitting to these would then put everyone ahead of the game (instead of what we got in the 'actual' game.....*grumble* six months under house arrest...bleh). Anyway.......just my thought process.

It should be noted that Cate was my only Shepard to be imported into me3, and because of how I RP'ed her in the other two games, I just couldn't finish me3. That soooooo wasn't my Cate. I can't even imagine putting my sarcastic Earthborn Paragade Ulee (PDS inspiration) into the game. That is why she drinks....HA!

*EDIT*
I should note the following.  Even though I really did imagine how my Cate would have left things with Hackett, and she most certainly would have kept the Normandy and NOT turned herself in, I have been influenced by the FanFic "The Thirty-Six Stratagems of Wang Jingze" by Mussimm on FF.net.  I always liked the idea of Shep having the choice to go Rogue, and using what she/he had to amass a force.  The aforementioned fanfic does a great job of portraying that.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 30 mai 2012 - 05:47 .

[wildannie]

@LT I don't think there's much passive aggressive hate but I think the has been a bit of it recently although I didn't feel any of it from coldi's post.

Personally, right now, I can't bring myself to support BW in any way because BW have really really pissed me off with ME3 in so many ways. If they had delivered the game they should have (one that successfully acknowledged the earlier choices) I would have happily purchased any DLC they offered... only my colonist shep has a problem with batarians but she'd help one out if they needed it... I also don't have a problem with Kaidan, he's a good guy, but I can't bring myself to import that Shep because ME3 (Thane, Jacob, Samara, Autodialogue, endings) irritates me too much.

[JECW]

I can't figure out what the problem is. Why is anything anyone says being taken so seriously?

[mythlover20]

LT took offense at my expressing a desire to cut off the balls of anyone who is so bloody insensitive enough to completely wipe Thane from the map by putting someone else in his Life Support and selling said balls to a genetically engineered krogan that I grew myself Okeer-style. Or more accurately the "passive" aggressive hate she thinks we're displaying. Personally I say get over it, we need a stress release, which now thanks to constantly having to explain myself and the need to relieve said stress due to the insensitive treatment which hit INFINITELY FAR too close to home for almost all of us, not just me, has now not only returned but doubled, and just leave it alone. Now before you get on your high horse again, because I know by now you will feel the need to: Yes, I understand, Yes, I even agree to an extent, Yes I realise I am being a fair bit hypocritical, No it was not a legitimate threat, only a fantasy, No I would never actually do it if I had the means, Yes I probably WOULD slap them upside the back of the head and break every single pen they own, and finally, NO I'm not angry at you, just a little upset, and yes I DO realise I am being hypocritical by implying that I think you shouldn't be able to express yourself on these forums just because we disagree a lot, though the fact that everyone seems to back down to you the second you say so makes me pause quite a bit, but No, I don't actually think that and Yes I do appreciate you for being the voice of reason that most of us are at times rather uncapable of being.

Yes I am keeping this up here because if I don't I am going to snap and not just inadvertantly hurt people here, but do so in real life and frankly I can't afford to do that. I don't want to go back to being the quivvering, wimpering little mess curled up on the floor, cringing at every sound. I can't do that again. But if speaking my mind is actually hurting people, I am sorry, I don't mean to hurt others, just trying not to hurt my own mind too much by bottling up. I'm not allowed to do that anymore.

There, that it? We done now? Okay. Can I go to sleep now, please?

EDIT: The appropriate tone, btw, is one of tired frustration and hurt. Not anger. Okay? Okay.

Modifié par mythlover20, 30 mai 2012 - 11:44 .

[utaker1988]

Myth, you may not go to sleep until you think of at least one good set of ridges....and chocolate!

[mythlover20]

utaker1988 wrote...

Myth, you may not go to sleep until you think of at least one good set of ridges....and chocolate!

Done.

Now can I go to sleep please. I feel the need for oblivion.

[Cosmochyck]

@LT - you mentioned why would anyone purposely kill the geth/quarians?  David Gaider (aka Dragon Age God) did EXACTLY that.  On purpose.  Didn't even like that there was an "optimal" peace option.  So you can see how everyone plays their Sheps differently.  My Sheps did feel bad about the Batarians, but also felt it was necessary.  She may have gone to Earth, but not to be arrested - she would have explained herself. 
As for the passive aggressive hate - people are just frustrated.  I agree that taking it out on BW employees will not solve anything.  I think everyone is just trying to understand why Thane HAD to die, and everyone else gets a choice (with consequences, as it should be). 

@myth - get some sleep honey.  I'm sure being immersed in the fanbook isn't helping your mood either - the art is lovely, but it's definitely a downer to be reading day in and day out about how horribly Thane was treated in ME3. 
And in case anyone is interested, BW is looking for a Lead Writer for Mass Effect in their Montreal office - takers??
 

[utaker1988]

LOL...would that mean I would have to travel that 45 minutes to get to Montreal? Probably, huh. Nah, I fear the Champlain Border Crossing and that HUGE bridge you have cross to get into Montreal. It scares me. I also fear the George Washington bridge.

I read that tweet about DG, I was like...Ok, I can accept that he played his Shep the way he wanted, it's his Shepard not mine. As many times as I said I would show the Quarians whose boss for not listening to Shepard about war with the Geth, I didn't do it. I couldn't do it, at least not with the Shep's I brought into ME3. Malificent however, likes to prove a point. She also would cut off her own nose to spite her face. But what I was shocked at was that DG didn't feel there should have been an optimal peace option. Why not? We could obtain a quasi peace between the turians and krogans, why not geth and quarians too? What makes one conflict more deserving of peace than the other? If he had legitimate reasons why he felt that way, I'd listen.

[Serenade22]

I can't believe this.

Do you remember the facebook page, "Join the fight"? It was the page of the campaign for curing Thane, launched by Bioware on January 2011. They deleted the post. I was trying to see it, but I can't. I went to my twitter account for check it, because I remember I tweeted Patrick Weeks the page (I thought maybe I had the wrong link). But it didn't work. I remember some of us reactivated the post, and commented a few days ago. There was +1900 likes, and was the proof, of Bioware giving us hope for a cure. The page no longer exists.

I feel so stupid for not saving a screenshot or something.


Edit:
The link was this:

http://www.facebook....135859066477547

If anyone can see the page with this link or with another please let me know.

Modifié par Serenade22, 30 mai 2012 - 05:25 .

[Vlk3]

Maybe he thinks it's more emotional...

But one scene that was most touching in the game was when my Shep brought peace to quarians and geth. It was amazing. Makes me think of how it would be to cure Thane...

[JECW]

mythlover20 wrote...

LT took offense at my expressing a desire to cut off the balls of anyone who is so bloody insensitive enough to completely wipe Thane from the map by putting someone else in his Life Support and selling said balls to a genetically engineered krogan that I grew myself Okeer-style. Or more accurately the "passive" aggressive hate she thinks we're displaying. Personally I say get over it, we need a stress release, which now thanks to constantly having to explain myself and the need to relieve said stress due to the insensitive treatment which hit INFINITELY FAR too close to home for almost all of us, not just me, has now not only returned but doubled, and just leave it alone. Now before you get on your high horse again, because I know by now you will feel the need to: Yes, I understand, Yes, I even agree to an extent, Yes I realise I am being a fair bit hypocritical, No it was not a legitimate threat, only a fantasy, No I would never actually do it if I had the means, Yes I probably WOULD slap them upside the back of the head and break every single pen they own, and finally, NO I'm not angry at you, just a little upset, and yes I DO realise I am being hypocritical by implying that I think you shouldn't be able to express yourself on these forums just because we disagree a lot, though the fact that everyone seems to back down to you the second you say so makes me pause quite a bit, but No, I don't actually think that and Yes I do appreciate you for being the voice of reason that most of us are at times rather uncapable of being.

Yes I am keeping this up here because if I don't I am going to snap and not just inadvertantly hurt people here, but do so in real life and frankly I can't afford to do that. I don't want to go back to being the quivvering, wimpering little mess curled up on the floor, cringing at every sound. I can't do that again. But if speaking my mind is actually hurting people, I am sorry, I don't mean to hurt others, just trying not to hurt my own mind too much by bottling up. I'm not allowed to do that anymore.

There, that it? We done now? Okay. Can I go to sleep now, please?

EDIT: The appropriate tone, btw, is one of tired frustration and hurt. Not anger. Okay? Okay.

I still don't get why what you said was taken so serioulsy. It's not like you would actually go out and do it.
We are all just a bit frustrated. I don't think anyone has been hurt by what you said. One person had an issue with it, and you explained yourself. You do not need to explain yourself again. Not to me or anyone else.

What passive agressive hate?
 

[JECW]

Serenade22 wrote...

I can't believe this.

Do you remember the facebook page, "Join the fight"? It was the page of the campaign for curing Thane, launched by Bioware on January 2011. They deleted the post. I was trying to see it, but I can't. I went to my twitter account for check it, because I remember I tweeted Patrick Weeks the page (I thought maybe I had the wrong link). But it didn't work. I remember some of us reactivated the post, and commented a few days ago. There was +1900 likes, and was the proof, of Bioware giving us hope for a cure. The page no longer exists.


I feel so stupid for not saving a screenshot or something.

So now they can pretend it never existed. They will probably just claim we made it up, and that there was never any hope for Thane.

Maybe someone has the page saved somewhere.

[Cosmochyck]

They have removed the entire ME2 page - all ME is under the ME facebook page now. They did mention that they were going to combine them all into Mass Effect, instead of having a page for each game. So it appears that all the content went with it.

DG also didn't cure the genophage. He posted it was by accident, but then he said it turned out to be the right choice. I think he just prefers the "hard choices" instead of "oh look, everyone can get along" thing. He fully admitted to loving bittersweet....

[Emeraldfern]

Well even if the "Cure Thane" post was removed there are still articles like this floating around:

http://brutalgamer.c...thane-campaign/[/url]


[Edit] I am phail at linking manually

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 30 mai 2012 - 05:53 .

[coldwetn0se]

You know, I have to giggle a little about DG having a problem with a "choice" to have a peaceful resolution between the Geth and the Quarians. In DAO (where he was lead writer) you have the ability to chose to kill the Templars in the Broken Circle quest, let the Templars use the right of anullment on the mages, or broker an accord between the Templars and Mages. Next you can kill all the werewolves as Zathrian asks of you, or you can turn on the Dalish and kill them instead. But you also have a choice to have Zathrian lift the curse; thereby keeping both the Dalish and the werewolves (now human again) alive. Now I am not suggesting that everyone in those to quest lines are ready to "hug and make up", but still; optimal choices available. Sorry, but I just find it a bit on the silly side of him. Isn't it nice then, that he was provided (at least in THAT storyline in me3) a "choice" to play it out as he saw fit...........

@Serenade - ugh! I don't think any of us thought about taking a screenshot. I don't think anyone assumed that they would promptly take it down like that.......though, maybe we DO need to start seeing them as a bit more ruthless in their need to defend (poorly I might add) their lack of consideration towards Thane's character in me3. If anyone "liked" the page recently, then the proof of it having existed should still be there.....I think. Anyone do that?

[Serenade22]

@Cosmochyck - Thanks for the info, I hope someone saved a screenshot

@JECW - If they act like that page never existed, maybe some people will believe them, but a lot of people saw that facebook page, they know it, we know it! And the news about the campaign were in a lot of webs.

@Emeraldfern -  I also have these:
http://brutalgamer.c...thane-campaign/
http://indev.thegame...hane’-campaign/

Maybe we don't have the real post anymore, but they can't deny the campaing existed. And if they deny it...well then I will be very disappointed and I will know I can't trust anymore on Bioware.

@coldwetn0se - When I posted a comment on the page I could see a note in my facebook page, but I can't find it now. I think it was deleted too:unsure: