Voted but I was hesitant...knowing the luck I have, someone will actually pay attention to that poll and say, "Hmmm...Thane was the best romance. Let's not change it!" I'm just saying, I am bad luck people. Maybe I need to find a lucky drell to rub.
Protesting the Poor Treatment of Thane Krios' Romance
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#6077
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:31
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Ah yeah, deleted my original comment on that poll. Had to change it to "In ME2 Thane had the best romance."
#6078
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:43
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Not that I'm gay for Thane, but I do sympathize. There should have been multiple ways to dealing with the Thane arc. most end horribly with his death, but some ending with him being alive and well.
#6079
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 01:48
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F00lishG wrote...
Not that I'm gay for Thane, but I do sympathize. There should have been multiple ways to dealing with the Thane arc. most end horribly with his death, but some ending with him being alive and well.
Thank you very much for the support. That's all we really want is the option. In no way do we want to take away the death for those that really need it in their game.
#6081
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 02:02
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I'm not sure Visii. But tbh, you truly are the Twitter queen. *bows* I don't know how you come up with some of those. And so polite...
@FOOlishG...thanks for the understanding. Like utaker said, all we wanted were options in our games.
@FOOlishG...thanks for the understanding. Like utaker said, all we wanted were options in our games.
#6082
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:15
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Voted!
Thank you for the support!
A choice would have pleased most people. Mass Effect is advertised as a game of choice and each of us should be able to shape our own stories. We shouldn't have decisions like this thrust on us. The forced death of a LI never should have happened.
F00lishG wrote...
Not that I'm gay for Thane, but I do sympathize. There should have been multiple ways to dealing with the Thane arc. most end horribly with his death, but some ending with him being alive and well.
Thank you for the support!
A choice would have pleased most people. Mass Effect is advertised as a game of choice and each of us should be able to shape our own stories. We shouldn't have decisions like this thrust on us. The forced death of a LI never should have happened.
#6083
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:18
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Good morning!
@Emeraldfern - @mnomaha - @coldwetn0se - @utaker1988 - @Jenlocks - @wildannie - @Renmiri1 -
Thank you!! :wub:I'm glad you like it .
@F00lishG - Thank you for your support!
@Visii - A week ago or so I tweeted Patrick with the facebook link, he never answered. He ignored me XD. I have not sent him the new pics yet, feel free to doing it if you want, maybe he will answer you this time
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@Emeraldfern - @mnomaha - @coldwetn0se - @utaker1988 - @Jenlocks - @wildannie - @Renmiri1 -
Thank you!! :wub:I'm glad you like it .
Voted and commentedcoldwetn0se wrote...
New Poll Drell-lickers! Now go vote!!
@F00lishG - Thank you for your support!
@Visii - A week ago or so I tweeted Patrick with the facebook link, he never answered. He ignored me XD. I have not sent him the new pics yet, feel free to doing it if you want, maybe he will answer you this time
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#6084
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 09:20
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Don't be too mad at Patrick Weekes, they are probably over flooded with millions of people asking this or that so maybe he might miss some.
Also I have reed on Twitter that he said he hoped that in future the Thane after death ignoring by everyone should be fixed in future.
It could mean : we will just delete that drell from the game , or it could mean they would like to have time to do something about it and feel sorry about forgetting him. etc
But any how the optimistic me is prefering to think the last one, they would like to fix this silence thing.
It is a progress.
Maybe one another time Mr. Gamble himself will be in good mood and offer us a cure and a choice.
Faith can move mountains believe me.
We just need to keep civil patient and superfirm in our actions. And positive. Nothing to make people shy away than negativity.
/cheers my friends from here! I know it sound like hippy peace and love etc but it never hurt .
edit and about my hand I won't need surgery wich please me a great deal lol
Also I have reed on Twitter that he said he hoped that in future the Thane after death ignoring by everyone should be fixed in future.
It could mean : we will just delete that drell from the game , or it could mean they would like to have time to do something about it and feel sorry about forgetting him. etc
But any how the optimistic me is prefering to think the last one, they would like to fix this silence thing.
It is a progress.
Maybe one another time Mr. Gamble himself will be in good mood and offer us a cure and a choice.
Faith can move mountains believe me.
We just need to keep civil patient and superfirm in our actions. And positive. Nothing to make people shy away than negativity.
/cheers my friends from here! I know it sound like hippy peace and love etc but it never hurt .
edit and about my hand I won't need surgery wich please me a great deal lol
Modifié par Saodade, 31 mai 2012 - 11:51 .
#6085
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 09:57
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Voted in the poll with clarification in comments, though really Thane is the only LI for my shep even if the content is pretty much an acid trip of inconsistencies. I even jumped into the male LI version to bump the Miranda score for our brethren in protest. >
(Honestly though, the LI choice is partly the reason I havn't completed a male shep yet. I actually adore all of the ME2 options.)
The twitter thing is still very intimidating to me, I spend so much time keeping up with the information without agonizing over posting anything, I'm amazed any of the Bioware people keep up!
Oh, and great work to those who found some evidence of previous campaigns! This wasn't just a fan-tantrum, it was an ongoing campaign that they themselves continually encouraged to help influence their content!
@F00lishG, thanks for popping in and showing support where it means most, a choice. I think coldi stated it brilliantly that in these types of RPGs the narrative necessarily become somewhat linear, but its the non-essential choices (or the ultimate illusion of choice when being permitted to drive the narrative) that really allow yourself to feel immersed and in some sense in control. (Otherwise it becomes the narrative equivalent of a rail shooter. And JRPGs do it better.
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If there was no choice I would have wanted content - lots of it - but alas, felt like not only a punch in the gut but a kick in the teeth for good measure. :\\
(Honestly though, the LI choice is partly the reason I havn't completed a male shep yet. I actually adore all of the ME2 options.)The twitter thing is still very intimidating to me, I spend so much time keeping up with the information without agonizing over posting anything, I'm amazed any of the Bioware people keep up!
Oh, and great work to those who found some evidence of previous campaigns! This wasn't just a fan-tantrum, it was an ongoing campaign that they themselves continually encouraged to help influence their content!
@F00lishG, thanks for popping in and showing support where it means most, a choice. I think coldi stated it brilliantly that in these types of RPGs the narrative necessarily become somewhat linear, but its the non-essential choices (or the ultimate illusion of choice when being permitted to drive the narrative) that really allow yourself to feel immersed and in some sense in control. (Otherwise it becomes the narrative equivalent of a rail shooter. And JRPGs do it better.
)If there was no choice I would have wanted content - lots of it - but alas, felt like not only a punch in the gut but a kick in the teeth for good measure. :\\
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#6086
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 03:53
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Just added my part in your project Squeegee 
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 05:45
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@Saodade - I gotta say, I do love your optimism. Don't ever lose that!
@ F00lishG - Echoing everyone here; thank you for your support. Feel free to join us anytime you wish.....though fair warning, we can get a bit silly around here.
@baibai - This is precisely my complaint. I get disheartened when those claiming to love RPG's (whether as a player or one who creates for them), believe that forcing NPC's (especially love interests) down a single path as being good dramatic flare. Forget the fact that someone may have had a different path in their role playing for such an important character to their PC. I see some built in dramatic devices as necessary for the narrative, but with the NPC's that our PC's get to interact with on such an emotional level, things need to be handled......delicately. And for love interests, choice should always surround their interaction. It makes sense to set up the possibility of really "bad" choices (and making them NOT obvious is better), but the choices should still be there. I have used this example probably way to much, but Alistair in DAO works really well to illustrate this. As we near the end of DAO, if your Warden is in a relationship with Alistair, the following things can happen:
**DAO Spoilers**
You can choose to persuade him to do the Dark ritual (ummm...yea? my bf sleeps with a witch....still a choice.) He can break up with you (if you make him king) if you are not a Cousland and if you didn't harden him. If you don't do the dark ritual and agree to take the final blow on the Archdemon, if Alistair is with you during the final fight, he may take that sacrifice for you (doh!), if you chose poorly on previous dialogues. Then there is the aftermath; King, warden, drunk, married to your Cousland, warden as mistress, married to Anora.........
**END spoilers**
Considering the number of squaddies/exsquaddies and LIs, I get that they had time constraints, so I would not have expected a list like the one above for Thane (or any other LI in the game), but it does show just how many options they CAN make. And when you figure in that the LM, the results of the SM and your Romance flag, are all in your save you would import into me3, there was no reason (IMO) that they couldn't have alloted for at least a couple of choices surrounding Thane (and not just.....he's dead, dying, deceased, terminal, death, Kepral's, diseased, ill, fatal, doomed!!!)
I really should drink my coffee before trying to write this stuff. Forgive the rambling; to cross-eyed to fix it right now...HA!
@ F00lishG - Echoing everyone here; thank you for your support. Feel free to join us anytime you wish.....though fair warning, we can get a bit silly around here.
@baibai - This is precisely my complaint. I get disheartened when those claiming to love RPG's (whether as a player or one who creates for them), believe that forcing NPC's (especially love interests) down a single path as being good dramatic flare. Forget the fact that someone may have had a different path in their role playing for such an important character to their PC. I see some built in dramatic devices as necessary for the narrative, but with the NPC's that our PC's get to interact with on such an emotional level, things need to be handled......delicately. And for love interests, choice should always surround their interaction. It makes sense to set up the possibility of really "bad" choices (and making them NOT obvious is better), but the choices should still be there. I have used this example probably way to much, but Alistair in DAO works really well to illustrate this. As we near the end of DAO, if your Warden is in a relationship with Alistair, the following things can happen:
**DAO Spoilers**
You can choose to persuade him to do the Dark ritual (ummm...yea? my bf sleeps with a witch....still a choice.) He can break up with you (if you make him king) if you are not a Cousland and if you didn't harden him. If you don't do the dark ritual and agree to take the final blow on the Archdemon, if Alistair is with you during the final fight, he may take that sacrifice for you (doh!), if you chose poorly on previous dialogues. Then there is the aftermath; King, warden, drunk, married to your Cousland, warden as mistress, married to Anora.........
**END spoilers**
Considering the number of squaddies/exsquaddies and LIs, I get that they had time constraints, so I would not have expected a list like the one above for Thane (or any other LI in the game), but it does show just how many options they CAN make. And when you figure in that the LM, the results of the SM and your Romance flag, are all in your save you would import into me3, there was no reason (IMO) that they couldn't have alloted for at least a couple of choices surrounding Thane (and not just.....he's dead, dying, deceased, terminal, death, Kepral's, diseased, ill, fatal, doomed!!!)
I really should drink my coffee before trying to write this stuff. Forgive the rambling; to cross-eyed to fix it right now...HA!
#6088
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 07:22
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Hi all, I was asked to post this. It was on the facebook page.
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LIA Project 3....? Project VID (hn, need clever acronym...)
Just had an idea. Anyone good at making youtube vids? Nothing fancy, just some music, text and screenshots, gamevid, succinctly detailing how each ME2 LI changed from ME2-ME3 (both for the better and worst, constructive criticism, get me? ) and why their ME3 romance content wasn't the 'satisfying conclusion' we had all been promised. We shouldn't have been punished for not romancing the VS, Liara or Team Dextro. If they couldn't handle juggling all these romances, they shouldn't have made them available in the first place. Anyone interested in such a project? I was thinking that the LIA projects could use some visual media... and people seem more willing to watch\\listen to a youtube vid than read one or two of my long, detailed, heartfelt BSN posts...
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LIA Project 3....? Project VID (hn, need clever acronym...)
Just had an idea. Anyone good at making youtube vids? Nothing fancy, just some music, text and screenshots, gamevid, succinctly detailing how each ME2 LI changed from ME2-ME3 (both for the better and worst, constructive criticism, get me? ) and why their ME3 romance content wasn't the 'satisfying conclusion' we had all been promised. We shouldn't have been punished for not romancing the VS, Liara or Team Dextro. If they couldn't handle juggling all these romances, they shouldn't have made them available in the first place. Anyone interested in such a project? I was thinking that the LIA projects could use some visual media... and people seem more willing to watch\\listen to a youtube vid than read one or two of my long, detailed, heartfelt BSN posts...
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 07:36
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I wish I knew how to make those vids. If I already had my new computer, I would attempt it, but alas......not in my grubby paws yet. I would love to a video that highlighted not only the character arc changes in Thane, between ME2 and me3, but also just showing how much OTHER (and extremely interesting) elements there were to Thane's character in ME2. Elements that were completely ignored in favor of -illness, death, Kepral's, dying, sick, terminal, dead, fatal, diseased, hospice, gasping, die, doomed, deceased..........reducing him to nothing more than a device (and a bad one at that).
And yeah......I know I am yet again repeating myself. I blame the rain......brain is getting soggy.
And yeah......I know I am yet again repeating myself. I blame the rain......brain is getting soggy.
#6090
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 07:40
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mnomaha wrote...
Hi all, I was asked to post this. It was on the facebook page.
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LIA Project 3....? Project VID (hn, need clever acronym...)
Just had an idea. Anyone good at making youtube vids? Nothing fancy, just some music, text and screenshots, gamevid, succinctly detailing how each ME2 LI changed from ME2-ME3 (both for the better and worst, constructive criticism, get me? ) and why their ME3 romance content wasn't the 'satisfying conclusion' we had all been promised. We shouldn't have been punished for not romancing the VS, Liara or Team Dextro. If they couldn't handle juggling all these romances, they shouldn't have made them available in the first place. Anyone interested in such a project? I was thinking that the LIA projects could use some visual media... and people seem more willing to watchlisten to a youtube vid than read one or two of my long, detailed, heartfelt BSN posts...
Aislinn is very good at making videos. I haven't seen her around in a while though.
You could try to pm her.
#6091
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 07:44
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Yeah, she's been quiet. I haven't checked the FemShep thread but I have seen her on twitter.
#6092
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 07:46
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I also meant to mention...
Emerald & Squee...some of those Thane comments (well most really) on twitter are awesome. Whichever one of you is doing this, you always make me smile.
Emerald & Squee...some of those Thane comments (well most really) on twitter are awesome. Whichever one of you is doing this, you always make me smile.
#6093
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:05
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Rshara either is not often here anymore maybe in hollidays ?
#6094
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:09
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Maybe in NSAS, but I don't go in there very often. Those guys are crazy! LOL
#6095
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:14
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Wait....hasn't Utaker already been doing this....sort of? I'm not sure if she was already doing this for Squee or Myth, but I got the impression that she was taking video of Thane's dialogues in ME2 and me3.
Or has the rain really gone done a number on my brain?!?!
Or has the rain really gone done a number on my brain?!?!
#6096
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:27
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Okay I just reactivated my twitter but I still don't know how to really work it. Could someone give me the links to the Save Thane group on there please?
#6098
Posté 31 mai 2012 - 08:55
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coldwetn0se wrote...
Wait....hasn't Utaker already been doing this....sort of? I'm not sure if she was already doing this for Squee or Myth, but I got the impression that she was taking video of Thane's dialogues in ME2 and me3.
Or has the rain really gone done a number on my brain?!?!
Nah, all I did was extract all the audio files, convert them and then upload them to a site. So, if anyone needs any Thane line said ever just let me know and I'll point you in that direction. For dirty pervs, I also put put up all the groans, grunts, etc.
It took a long, long time LOL. Oh fudge, I forgot his LotSB stuff..meh, there was not much there, what one line? LOL.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 09:01
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*snorts* "All I did..." Because that was such a small job. << yes, that was sarcasm. That was a big job (pun intended) and I know that I appreciated your compilation.
That was a big job (pun intended) and I know that I appreciated your compilation.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 09:04
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See....there it is. Brain is swiss cheesed......meh!
"This is problematic." I think was his line outside of the exploding building in LotSB.
"This is problematic." I think was his line outside of the exploding building in LotSB.
