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[utaker1988]

coldwetn0se wrote...

<giggle/snort> I soooo need a drink to go with the images in my head. Thank you @utaker and @mnomaha. Could use a virtual cigarette as well........

Thane has a drink for you...



He also has a rather rude comment about bypassing that virtual cigarette cuz he has something for oral stimulation. Just sayin' Thane's in a real mood tonight.

[disc0nnect7]

I needed to see that chocolate milk fanart on my screen again. It's been way too long.

[JECW]

The chocolate milk fan art. One of my favorites.

[gearseffect]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Nice... I want chocolate milk.

Clicks the timeline thing reads this post
goes back out

[LanceSolous13]

Hey...Thane-Romancers? Is there a proper name for us?

Anyways, its a bit late for me to say this, what with the EC in less than a week, but I got some ideas on how to Redeem Thane's Romance.

Ok, endings comes up, fade to black, the screen brightens up. Camera is passing over water with a heavy white mist all around. Camera keeps crossing the water. Thane steps out for the mist, he lacks clothing (or atleast a shirt) and extends his hand out to the camera. "Welcome Siha." he says calmly. Cue Paramore Achievement and cut to black as Shep grabs Thane's hand.

I think it could be beautiful.

[Moira-chan]

hey guys...

another thing. I'm giving Predator 200586, who is guiding the snn (social network news) in the german forum. She informs fans on everything going on me and dragon age... i've told her about the Poster Project of Squeege and she was asking me to collect further infos so give her an update on all projects done and working.
can you please help me to collect them? even from other groups like miranda, samara, jacob an co? and projects infos? so she will tell the others in there and we may got efforts^^

I told her about The Book and The tribute, thane fanbook and Squees project, but can you pls give me the link of the tribute? i lost it ^^' it would be for our matters, so please

[LanceSolous13]

Oh. I agree. I have a Fem!Shep all ready to be imported and now I'm not so sure because I was going to keep Thane till the end. Almost every ME2 Romance has stuff we needed to see the first time around, rather than something so stupid and simple for them to edit in. Thane was forgotten! Jacob practically marries someone else after getting her knocked up! Jack doesn't even get a love scene and only a few lines are different from just normal friendship. Miranda probably got off the easiest besides Garrus and Tali and she's still in bad condition.

[warlock22]

Squeegee83 wrote...

@Lance: It would be indeed beautiful. However I believe at this point, most of us don't want more death content from Thane in ME3. We been through a lot and we like to see a different outcome now. That is something however we have liked to see the first time around, it would have brought closer. To be able to join him across the sea. It would have closed the storyline.

@Moria: PM woman, I can provide you some of that information. I just don't want to do it in the forum.

Here, this is something I did for giggles.

That pic is awesome lol. Pretty much sums up how they worked it, Samara would be with Thane and Jacob.

[Thrazesul]

I shouldn't laugh at that picture but I am anyway... this is just so sad. >.>

[utaker1988]

Squeegee83 wrote...

@Lance: It would be indeed beautiful. However I believe at this point, most of us don't want more death content from Thane in ME3. We been through a lot and we like to see a different outcome now. That is something however we have liked to see the first time around, it would have brought closer. To be able to join him across the sea. It would have closed the storyline.

@Moria: PM woman, I can provide you some of that information. I just don't want to do it in the forum.

Here, this is something I did for giggles.

I laughed, a lot and then realized I was laughing because it rings true and it hurts.  

All romance arcs will have a satisfying conclusion.  If Thane's was satisfying, I shudder to think what they consider  unsatisfying.  He doesn't show up at all?  Well, considering how they butchered him, him not being there at all  leaves to speculation that he could be alive out there somewhere which is still better than dead.  A message saying he's in hiding and can't be contacted, just trust that he is alright.  Ok, still better than what we got.  Or contact from Kolyat saying his father ok for the time being but can't be contacted.  Again, still better than what we got.  Killing him off while Shepard is in custody.  Ok, that might be worse than what we got.  But is it, really?  At least we wouldn't be subjected to the character assassination that ocurred.  I really don't know what would be more painful, him being killed out of the game or what we got now.

That is not an open invitation for BW to fix Thane's romance by ejecting him from the game.  He's already been ejected...in the default version.  I don't get it.  They took the time to revamp Jack but yet she's dead in the default.  They took the time to make Thane appeal to females and he's dead by default.  Where is the logic in any of that?  Same goes with James, they took the time to make him, get him a decent VA (well to me, I like FPJ) and knowing that FemShep gets screwed in the male department if Kaidan is dead or Garrus was never romanced and is straight, put in all the flirting lines but didn't bother going the distance with it.  

And I shouldn't laugh but I do find it hilarious that Shepard gets shot down by Joker.  WTF!  You can't even get a man with a bone disease?  You would think they'd be all over that since some seem to be under the impression that Shepard likes broken and diseased men.  It taps into that stereotypical "females like sick and broken men, it pulls on their heartstrings."  

[PorcelynDoll]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Here, this is something I did for giggles.

It might be more accurate if the last pic was just of a toilet with a pen in the bowl.

[Visii]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Here, this is something I did for giggles.

It might be more accurate if the last pic was just of a toilet with a pen in the bowl.

You're right!

Someone get on editing that, please!

[Renmiri1]

reworked, thanks to the folks at Sadly No (best place to find toilet inspired photoshop art  )

Modifié par Renmiri1, 23 juin 2012 - 06:02 .

[coldwetn0se]

Thank you Squee for that picture....and to Porcelyn for adding the "toilet bowl" suggestion. It is all so eerily accurate. As utaker says, what would have been worse?? Since what we have now is pretty damn pathetic. I really don't understand why they think women like broken men. All the LI have baggage, but let us consider what is baggage for the other LI's:
1) Kaidan - Had an emotional (and rage inducing) experience at Biotic Camp.
2) Ashley - Grandfather was "space blacklisted"; family tries to move on from that shadow of a past.
3) Liara - Mother aligned herself with Saren (indoctrinated, for the most part), then she dies.
4) Garrus - Authority issues, strained relationship with "Dad".
5) Tali - More father issues, and then father dies and she is accused of treason.
6) Miranda - Daddy again; he is "eccentric" (bats**t crazy), and she wants to protect her sister.
7) Jacob - Moar da-da. Crashes on a deserted world, creates a harem, and gets other officers killed. Apparently was never much of a father to Jacob anyway.
8) Jack - Stolen from birth to be experimented on. Trained to kill in manner of Pavlo's dogs.
9) Samara - Gives birth to three Ardat-Yakshis, and becomes a Justicar; not exactly the easiest lifestyle.
10) And finally Thane - Given to the Hanar at the age of 6 to be trained to be an assassin, makes his first kill at the age of 12, has his eyes genetically altered to "read" the Hanar bioluminescence (I include this only because we really aren't given all the info on 'how' this was done, and I suspect that it was probably done when he was young), wife killed, son estranged, AND finally throw in Drell Space Cancer, Kepral's.

I know we have thrown these lists around for the past three and half months, but it really is a wonder still to me. Thane's disease was just not needed. However, from that list you get the impression that the writers were really trying to make him much more complex than many of the other LI's. Whether they succeeded is subjective. Personally, it was a bit overboard. I was not drawn to him because he was dying, or because he had come to "accept" his death (which is the state he is in, at the beginning of ME2). In fact, I would argue that THAT might have caused a backlash on how many people decided to romance him (something I have said before, but I feel like repeating myself.......). Take Garrus for example, his romance is quite popular. Is this strictly because he is so much more interesting? I would argue no. But, he is written as just easy, likeable, somewhat (at least eventually) stable.....AND not dying from some stoopid illness. I have no doubt that there are many reasons why Garrusmancers chose Garrus, and I am very glad that they had the choice given to them to do so. I still will argue (and partly because I have seen people admit this in posts) that Thane's likeability as a LI was misfired when they decided to claim him as "terminally ill". We Thanemancers all saw beyond that, and in just about every other aspect, his appeal is spot on (VERY nicely drawn, sexy voice, lovely dialogue, how he treats Shepard, even his past though tragic, is still very captivating, as is the Drell species....).

So what is my point to all of this; I guess it sort of relates to how out of touch they are with their female fans. We don't need broken men, we want the choice to play "hetero" Shepards, and we want our Fem!Sheps to be able to stand up for themselves in their relationships with the other NPC's. Ok......it was also about showing how much they put in to Thane, but decided to only focus on Kepral's, Death, dying, dead!

I think my thoughts are all over the place.........................bleh! the rain is getting to me. :/


*EDIT* Spelling fail

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 23 juin 2012 - 06:27 .

[JECW]

I never thought Thane was broken, so if that is what they were going for they missed the mark. I simply thought they added that illness for drama. They though it would make him more interesting if he was dying. It just showed me they didn't really know what they were doing if they thought that illness was needed. They they go and recycle the dead wife and estranged kid. Like I haven't seen that before on t.v. and in the movies.Now none of that ever once bothered me though because there was so much more to Thane that made him interesting. His wife, son and illness were the last thing on my mind. It's like they didn't quiet know what to do with his character back then.

I have seen some people admit that his illness is a reason that they didn't romance him. I have also heard it is because he had a wife that they think Shepard is just a replacement for her. They also don't like the fact that he has a kid. These three things seem to be the main reason some don't do his romance, and people can't seem to get past these three things , and I don't understand why. Thane is more than his illness and we all know that. If they took the time to get to know him they would see that, but a lot of them don't want to or care to try. His wife has been dead for a decade. She didn't just die yesterday. I never once felt my shepard was a replacement. If I had I wouldn't have done the romance. I really don't know what the problem is with his son. He's an adult so you don't have to raise him.

I think some of the reasons Garrus is a more popular LI is because he was in the first game so people have known him a lot longer. It seems that people wanted him as a romance back them. He also isn't as alien in his thinking as Thane is so more people can relate to him better. He seems to have been written to be every shepards bestfriend.

I don't know if Bioware was ever really in touch with their female fanbase. They made Shepard sound weak and stupid with a lot of that dialouge in ME3. They took away two LI's. Then they say you knew Thane was dying. Like they didn't give us any hope that him might survive. The only screwed over Jacob because he isn't very popular, but they would never admit that. This would have never happened to MShepard. I hear people say these things happen in real life. People die, or you get dumped. This isn't real life its a game, and the last thing I need is a video game company trying to teach me about real life.

[Visii]

And of course, male shep doesn't have any of his old or new options killed or cheat without any way to fix or keep it from happening...

If you have a resource limit,  don't try new stuff like killing off the first LI ever in any Bioware game or making the LI cheat on the PC! I would have preferred too little content, like with Jack and Miranda, options that can end in tragedy or end with ambiguity, as opposed to the eldritch abominations we were given and ordered to smile and be happy for.

Modifié par Visii, 23 juin 2012 - 09:51 .

[Renmiri1]

Sadly I doubt that anything will be done to fix Thane in this free DLC we are getting. Makes me wonder why that thread at hold the line. Surely they were almost done with development at that date. Nothing written on there could have been included.

[LanceSolous13]

Wasn't Thane going to be a Bisexual Option in ME2, similar to how Liara was in ME? Yes, I know Liara isn't 'technically' bisexual but you catch my drift.

[utaker1988]

There are audio files in ME2 of Meer saying lines that go with a Thane romance. "You're the only one that I want, Thane." The last conversation in Life Support for the romance path only have the Hale recordings though, as does the cabin scene. For some reason, if Meer actually recorded those lines, were not in the game files.

I bet if he were a male romance, he would have lived to see the end of the game.

[Visii]

utaker1988 wrote...

There are audio files in ME2 of Meer saying lines that go with a Thane romance. "You're the only one that I want, Thane." The last conversation in Life Support for the romance path only have the Hale recordings though, as does the cabin scene. For some reason, if Meer actually recorded those lines, were not in the game files.

I bet if he were a male romance, he would have lived to see the end of the game.

I think the... bizzare way they make sure that male and female shepard VA's get the same amount of work, the same amount of money is by making them read out all the lines, regardless of whether or not a male/female shep gets that option in game.

Read that, somewhere.

Although if Thane WERE a male romance he totally would have lived to see the end of the game.

[Serenade22]

Renmiri1 wrote...

reworked, thanks to the folks at Sadly No (best place to find toilet inspired photoshop art  )

Sorry, I had to do a small change in the first picture XDD

[LanceSolous13]

Visii wrote...

utaker1988 wrote...

There are audio files in ME2 of Meer saying lines that go with a Thane romance. "You're the only one that I want, Thane." The last conversation in Life Support for the romance path only have the Hale recordings though, as does the cabin scene. For some reason, if Meer actually recorded those lines, were not in the game files.

I bet if he were a male romance, he would have lived to see the end of the game.

I think the... bizzare way they make sure that male and female shepard VA's get the same amount of work, the same amount of money is by making them read out all the lines, regardless of whether or not a male/female shep gets that option in game.

Read that, somewhere.

Although if Thane WERE a male romance he totally would have lived to see the end of the game.

Please no battle of the sexes. Next thing you'll all be saying would be that if Thane were Asari that he would have lived to the ending...

[Renmiri1]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Please no battle of the sexes. Next thing you'll all be saying would be that if Thane were Asari that he would have lived to the ending...

Totally