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Protesting the Poor Treatment of Thane Krios' Romance


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#7776
Vertigo_1

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Did you guys see that "our" LI survey had a lot more response than Bioware's own Leviathan survey ? Think they only got 2,000 responses


Well it wasn't a Bioware Survey but from ME3 News (aka Phaedon and the rest of us contributors)

And the survey was up for only 70 hours (almost 3 days)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 13 septembre 2012 - 09:21 .


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*bump*

Taking a break from job hunting-rl getting in the way of my playtime, hehe-to say hello!;)

My Shep was a Vanguard in ME3...I can still think of a million ways she could have taken Kai Leng down without breaking a sweat-or even a fingernail!*sigh*

#7778
Renmiri1

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Ya that fight is totally absurd -.-

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coldwetn0se

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POLLS make me feel like dancin'........Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

And because there is always room for Jell-o....I mean, pics!Posted Image

Shepard: "Okay!  Who's blowin' spit ball at the back of my head?!?!?!"
Jack and Thane in unison: "He/She did it."Posted Image
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#7780
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Too bad that he's in a coffin now.

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ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Too bad I'm not as Hot, Sexy and Badass like he is!


There.. fixed that for you!

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Did you guys see that "our" LI survey had a lot more response than Bioware's own Leviathan survey ? Think they only got 2,000 responses


Well it wasn't a Bioware Survey but from ME3 News (aka Phaedon and the rest of us contributors)

And the survey was up for only 70 hours (almost 3 days)


I'm sorry, did you say something? Really, I just can't tear my eyes away from your avatar. Too much win in one tiny pic!

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@Roxy, don't feed it. If you must, please feed it fire or acid. It's reported that those are the only two things that actually work.

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If we ignor them they will go away.
I just never realized how many people have nothing better to do.

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indeed

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Oh on other news, DA3 has been announced!!!
http://t.co/W2YkF16M

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Oh on other news, DA3 has been announced!!!
http://t.co/W2YkF16M


*takes deep breath*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I saw the DA3 announcement, funny it came as I was cleaning up my bookcase and I had taken BW's games off the favored shelf and moved them to the shelf that collects dust. My honest to god reaction, "DA3, huh, that would be interesting if the season premiere of Bones wasn't tonight and the new season of Robot Chicken wasn't last night."

I'll wait for the FAN reviews on that game before I step into that. And I'm off to watch reruns of Supernatural. Is there a plot to this show or is it on just for the man candy of the Winchester brothers? Meh...I just saw an episode with James Marsters in it. I might have died a little.

You know all these shows I've been watching lately all seem to have a common thing. No matter how contrived or ridiculous the reasoning....people keep being brought back from death and nobody goes, "NO way!!! Elena died!! That's BS you throw in that she got vampire blood so you can keep her alive. Or Dean was dead and it's ok for his dad to make a deal with a demon and now he's alive! Buffy killed Angel and he's alive! The amulet turned Spike into dust and he's alive!! Heck, Buffy died TWICE...alive."

But ask for a LOGICAL thing like a transplant for Thane and people get their panties in a bunch because that's not realistic.

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utaker1988 wrote...
You know all these shows I've been watching lately all seem to have a common thing. No matter how contrived or ridiculous the reasoning....people keep being brought back from death and nobody goes, "NO way!!! Elena died!! That's BS you throw in that she got vampire blood so you can keep her alive. Or Dean was dead and it's ok for his dad to make a deal with a demon and now he's alive! Buffy killed Angel and he's alive! The amulet turned Spike into dust and he's alive!! Heck, Buffy died TWICE...alive."

But ask for a LOGICAL thing like a transplant for Thane and people get their panties in a bunch because that's not realistic.


LOL.  See, I actually really, REALLY do not like bringing people back from the dead.  Call it a narrative pet peeve of mine.  I threw a pretty big fit over Shep's resurrection back before ME2's release, and I still think it's an astonishingly stupid plot device.

But it's different for fixing Thane's romance, because if it were written reasonably, he wouldn't be dead in the first place.  If he magically appeared alive after the Cerberus coup, then problems.  But fixing the romance in the first place?  No problems.

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Bah...I've said it once (28 times), I'll say it again; Thane has never needed to be resurrected. Just offered another path alongside the existing one. It's almost a blessing in disguise that they "forgot" about him, since that now leaves a window of opportunity to give him more than one option (if they ever chose to). Of course, best would have been had that option been provided from the VERY BEGINNING.

I should just link my DLC idea in my signature, but damn it's crowded in there. :D
I am with you though Sable, on the resurrection bit (I admit I found it amusing in Angel/Buffy, and Supernatural. They are fun, silly shows, so I'm all good with that.). I had this look O.o the first time I played ME2, but then I started with that game, so it didn't bother me as much. Since I knew nothing about the game, I though maybe it was supposed to be "campy". Eventually I saw it as "sigh" worthy, but loved the game enough to immediately purchase the first game, after completing one play through.

I'll dream of possibilities, and hope for nothing. *shrug*

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 Coldi that poll, it it greahfgdskaghskjfvhadklbskjbvhalshsldkhab kjs, Beware he comes a giant rant which I am Not sorry for and it needs to be said because it's just afghslfkjangfvskjdb

I went there to vote and mother trucker, I wasn't sure if I should be p!ssed, sad, hurt, offended, ashamed, but it it made me feel things, I mean Urgz the freaking Varren was on there. Motherf*cker no Samara, I mean the only way it could have been more painful is if it had this on there Samara/Morinth. GAAGAJAJKL.

Which at least Morinth got a full romance arch in ME2. The single different line of dialogue us Samaritans got that was supposed to be continueation and development of the near kiss scene, was like like............ WTF? I mean I'm sick of it, but then again, with BW's current approche to characters I probably wouldn't want them to conclude and further a romance arch with Samara. It would end up making her look like some horny chick that needs a dick, and can't stand on her own. She's a tough as nails ultimate bad@ss, her bad@ssery has no equel. She's so bad@ss she walled herself up to be a bad@ss. So she sorta forgot how to be a person she needs someone who's gonna be patiant and keep hounding her, and keep coming back and give her time, and keep coming back. She's so bad@ss that's what it takes someone relentlessly trying to get past the bad@ss and get through to the chick inside and afgsghggfhdfgfsadkjsfhdklj

BW has no tallent and writers, and dangit you all love Thane soooooooooooo much because of his great unique LI arch and Samara's has the potential to blow Thane's out of the water. afhdghaj but BW isn't the same anymore that tallent is gone replaced by empty dickminded and mainstreaming fools who'd pander to the masses and forget and destroy everything they built and had been about. Everything they were. They defend these actions day and night and haven't ever stopped yet, I only think they intend to give Jack, Miranda, and Grunt, and maybe even Mordin more content because face it they haven't shown any interest in Samara, Thane, Zaeed, and they threw away everything they had for Kelly in ME3 to make room for action mode and MP. So ghhajfkldsjakldajafhjfhajdshdfjadhajk


I have little faith in BW's abilty and frankly I'd rather they leave Samara alone then do some butcher job like they did to Thane and Jacob. 

So Mac can have his blue waifu and Mr H can have the little boy, just don't butcher Samara like you did Thane and Jacob.

#7792
coldwetn0se

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Awww Gears. *Coldi FedEx's a beautiful Samara picture, lovingly framed.*

You are very right on something........Samara IS a bad@ss! That's why we love her. ;)

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coldwetn0se wrote...
It's almost a blessing in disguise that they "forgot" about him, since that now leaves a window of opportunity to give him more than one option (if they ever chose to). Of course, best would have been had that option been provided from the VERY BEGINNING.


If Unreal Engine were more moddable, I'd say it straight up WAS a blessing in disguise, because someone could come along and fix it.  Unfortunately, Unreal Engine is apparently almost impossible to mod.  Give it five-ten years, maybe we'll figure out something for Thane and Jacob by then if BioWare doesn't deign to fix it :pinched:  And while we're at it, we can nuke the stupid starbrat.

@Gears: I feel ya.  Samara was (after Legion) my favorite new character in ME2.  She was like a mentor to my FemShep.  

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...
It's almost a blessing in disguise that they "forgot" about him, since that now leaves a window of opportunity to give him more than one option (if they ever chose to). Of course, best would have been had that option been provided from the VERY BEGINNING.


If Unreal Engine were more moddable, I'd say it straight up WAS a blessing in disguise, because someone could come along and fix it.  Unfortunately, Unreal Engine is apparently almost impossible to mod.  Give it five-ten years, maybe we'll figure out something for Thane and Jacob by then if BioWare doesn't deign to fix it :pinched:  And while we're at it, we can nuke the stupid starbrat.

@Gears: I feel ya.  Samara was (after Legion) my favorite new character in ME2.  She was like a mentor to my FemShep.  


I admit I have no working knowledge of these gaming engines.  It would be great if modders could eventually play around with it; totally agree with that!Posted Image  The idea I put together works very much in principle with how other BW games and DLC have worked (namely ME2 and DA2).  The bulk of the content that would utilize the new option, would be contained in the DLC.  Only two parts would be integrated (if you could even call it that.) 

First part would be set up similarly to Arrival.  For example, in Arrival you take a message up in the Captains Loft from Admiral Hacket.  Even after accepting the mission from him, you do NOT have to do it right away.  This part would equate to my adding of a dialogue with Thane at Huerta, where you have an opportunity to bolster his health using the Eupolmus Device .  Since the dialogue gives the player an out (and the treatment does NOT save Thane from anything....just makes his participation more believable), it matters not if you decide to play the DLC even after the coup, when Thane would already be dead. Then, just like playing the Leviathan DLC adds a new line of dialogue with the Catalyst, if you follow the paths correctly to save Thane, the base game will simply be set for a Coup WITHOUT an available Thane (just like if he was already dead from ME2, or you failed to speak to him before the Coup occurs), then either Kirahee steps in (if still alive) or the Councilor dies.  Last would be an email sent to Shepard which I outlined in either this thread or the Thane thread (hehe...should probably go find that and save itPosted Image).  This email would simply wrap up his role in me3. 

Here is a link to the initial DLC idea I put together, if you are interested.

**EDIT for messiness and content**

I found the exchange I had with Emeraldfern a few weeks back.  Here is the idea for the email from Thane, that I thought would work in this context.

Coldi wrote in response to Emeraldfern.....


Actually, if the techno-gooble you said, doesn't work, there is another very nice solution (which again I hint at in my DLC idea). A new letter from Thane. Once he stays on Kajhee for the treatment, the Illuminated Primacy puts him (and Kolyat) in a version of Witness Protection, due to his outstanding service to the Hanar. But of course, he has one request; a chance to send a covert message to Shepard. This email could contain very general information about his "death" to Shepard, indicating that he has been pronounced dead so that his enemies would not go looking for him, but that he is also being moved and identity changed to further protect himself and Kolyat. For a friend Shepard, this would simply end with best regards and hopes for the future. For a romanced Shepard, it can be a further declaration of love, and a promise to search her out, once the reaper threat has passed.

The end result of such an email would be that having his name on the memorial wall would still fit.  No need to try and remove the image.


Modifié par coldwetn0se, 18 septembre 2012 - 07:31 .


#7795
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Renmiri1 wrote...

Oh on other news, DA3 has been announced!!!
http://t.co/W2YkF16M


SO looking forward to that!:D

And apparently  there is also talk of another ME game along the line and more dlc content...but no mention of an LI dlc!<_<
]http://masseffect.li...om/1622082.html

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Is it okay Hisilome if I say I have no interest in another ME game? Hell with it I'm saying it because it's my opinion and my right, I have NO interest in another ME game, no interest in anything BW does much. Because of ME3. Yeah it maybe harsh but really they have to work hard hard and extra hard to even make me half @ssed interested and believe them. Right now I wouldn't take their word for anything, I won't be fooled and conned again by them. They managed to pull the ultimate con on me and it just hurt all the LIES!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hisilome wrote...
And apparently  there is also talk of another ME game along the line and more dlc content...but no mention of an LI dlc!<_<
]http://masseffect.li...om/1622082.html


Wait, the Drs. are leaving BioWare?

...

*is very sad*  I liked them.  And as for Mass Effect, I haven't bought any DLC for ME3, and I won't unless it's one that fixes the LIs.  I do still find the ME universe interesting, so if we get a game that's set before ME1, I'll be curious to see what it contains.  Anything that tries to work with the travesty of an ending we got and go for ME4?  Bleargh.

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Mass Effect 4 The Daughter of Shepard.

Set 500 years after ME3 and the star of the game is Shepard's daughter a little blue asari child. Liara is the mom of course.

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gearseffect wrote...

Mass Effect 4 The Daughter of Shepard.

Set 500 years after ME3 and the star of the game is Shepard's daughter a little blue asari child. Liara is the mom of course.


:sick:

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Mass Effect 4 The Daughter of Shepard.

Set 500 years after ME3 and the star of the game is Shepard's daughter a little blue asari child. Liara is the mom of course.


:sick:


LOL