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Protesting the Poor Treatment of Thane Krios' Romance


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EvanesceKunoichi

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Hisilome wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

@Hisilome

Aww, thanks a lot! :D



Image IPB Hmm...wonder if you might consider allowing me to make a wallpaper of that piece!*puppy eyes* :D


Of course! :D 
That image is really much larger then that, do you want me to send you the link?

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yamainu1984 wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

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Also, noone mentioning Thane's death is just outrageous. It also made Kaidan look like a complete dick.
I mourn Thane, and Kaidan invites me to a dinner, and he tires to win me back saying "Look, I usderstand why you cheated..."
What. The. Hell.
Couldn't he be a little bit supportive? I lost a person I cared for.


Wow that's new to me since I never romanced anyone else ingame. That's really bad and sad at all...


Makes me infinitely happy that I shot Kaidan during the Udina Coup...cheated, whatever, go back and read your noncommittal letter you troll.  Maybe that doctor you had drinks with, you know the one you went out with to try and "move on" with.  Moving on implies that you have left your past behind and in doing so, you left your relationship with Shepard behind as well.  Yeah, as long as any reference to cheating is kept in there, he will continue to die or I will just keep him dead on Virmire.  He also mentions cheating if you try to Lie when asked about it in the hospital.

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EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Hisilome wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

@Hisilome

Aww, thanks a lot! :D



Image IPB Hmm...wonder if you might consider allowing me to make a wallpaper of that piece!*puppy eyes* :D


Of course! :D 
That image is really much larger then that, do you want me to send you the link?


Yes, please!! :) That'd be lovely!:):)

Modifié par Hisilome, 20 mars 2012 - 03:47 .


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stysiaq wrote...

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Also, noone mentioning Thane's death is just outrageous. It also made Kaidan look like a complete dick.
I mourn Thane, and Kaidan invites me to a dinner, and he tires to win me back saying "Look, I usderstand why you cheated..."
What. The. Hell.
Couldn't he be a little bit supportive? I lost a person I cared for.


 the : "Look, I understand why you cheated..." part is so incredible cruel! It's as if Thane was just a fling for the time Kaidan was "ignoring" you! and the worst part is, you can't correct him. Not once. Hell, Shepard never says "I love you"

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EvanesceKunoichi

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Hisilome wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Hisilome wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

@Hisilome

Aww, thanks a lot! :D



Image IPB Hmm...wonder if you might consider allowing me to make a wallpaper of that piece!*puppy eyes* :D


Of course! :D 
That image is really much larger then that, do you want me to send you the link?


Yes, please!! :) That'd be lovely!:):)


Here you go: XD

s69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/Jensen-1/

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EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Hisilome wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

Hisilome wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

@Hisilome

Aww, thanks a lot! :D



Image IPB Hmm...wonder if you might consider allowing me to make a wallpaper of that piece!*puppy eyes* :D


Of course! :D 
That image is really much larger then that, do you want me to send you the link?


Yes, please!! :) That'd be lovely!:):)


Here you go: XD

s69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/Jensen-1/



Ohhh...it looks even better as a bigger picture! :D Thank you very much!:)

I'm going to get that wallpaper done within the day!*bounces* :D

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Echo_V wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

EDIT:

Also, noone mentioning Thane's death is just outrageous. It also made Kaidan look like a complete dick.
I mourn Thane, and Kaidan invites me to a dinner, and he tires to win me back saying "Look, I usderstand why you cheated..."
What. The. Hell.
Couldn't he be a little bit supportive? I lost a person I cared for.


 the : "Look, I understand why you cheated..." part is so incredible cruel! It's as if Thane was just a fling for the time Kaidan was "ignoring" you! and the worst part is, you can't correct him. Not once. Hell, Shepard never says "I love you"




We should have been given the option to tell him it wasn't cheating, and bring up the doctor he had drinks with.
We didn't even know Kaidan that long in ME1. We don't see him for two years, and when we do he calls us a traitor and walks away. 
Having him hit on you right after Thane dies was just in such poor taste.

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Writers? Like bw writers? I only know a few names and well, I would get banned if I used my nicknames for them.

And Squee...love your siggie! It's in...German? I think you said you speak German. LOL It's been a long day. :)


I'm assuming that they are since they pulled me right off the site, but I will look into it futher. And thanks! :) yes its in German.

yamainu1984 wrote...

I would say at least more then nothing! I will never give up hope...


It's been well over two weeks since I started fighting this thing. I have had moments of giving up but I think of Thane and the injustice...ugh... so I keep coming back. I don't know if that girl from the other thread is going to make a petition to save Thane, but I will be willing to make a petition to fix all the ME2 romances in ME3. Although I won't do it if I just end up talking to myself over here. lol.

Btw I think your fanbook is a great idea, keep it up :)

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@Emeraldfern - Yes! Do the comic strip for your dialogue...I love that idea. :)

@stysiaq - I still just love the fact you use Wrex as your avatar. Krogan power!!

The whole Kaidan thing really just shows how little they spent on these romances. I never romanced him either, with my Thane Shepards (three of them), but I have read all the dialogue options for Shep between her and Kaidan. Good lordy, they butchered the role playing aspect of f!Shep. NONE of us would say those things....ever! Blech.....

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I'll give those comics a try after the painting is done (The pattern on Thane's smexy awesome coat is killing me right now >_<)

@Squegee83

A slightly off-topic question about your sig, how do you create a link in your sig with different text than the link itself? (Wanted to make one of my own in Swedish)

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@Squegee83

A slightly off-topic question about your sig, how do you create a link in your sig with different text than the link itself? (Wanted to make one of my own in Swedish)


no problemo :)

url=http://enter your url]enter your text[/url]

*just place a [ in the beginning of "url"

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Emeraldfern wrote...

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I'll give those comics a try after the painting is done (The pattern on Thane's smexy awesome coat is killing me right now >_<)

@Squegee83

A slightly off-topic question about your sig, how do you create a link in your sig with different text than the link itself? (Wanted to make one of my own in Swedish)


Wooohooo!  Can't wait to see your painting.  Wish I could draw. The only thing I can draw is something that remotely looks like Captain Caveman.....yikes!

I'm going to try and take some crazy pics of my Ulee Shep in ME2, to go along with my PDS shorts.  She was sort of my inspiration. 
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Just watched the Kaidan romance scene. (Eww, first of all. He's just not appealing.) Second of all, what the bejesus!! What makes Kaidan fans more worthy of a real romance scene than us!? I am now officially going back to Virmire so I can kill Kaidan. Ashley was cooler anyway.

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Ok, dropping this here because it's awesome and she's a fabulous artist - and she's as heartbroken as we are!!
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by Smailika07

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Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok, dropping this here because it's awesome and she's a fabulous artist - and she's as heartbroken as we are!!
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by Smailika07


It is amazing:wub:

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Wow, that is incredible. Gorgeous.

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That's beautiful!

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Oh my, those are some wonderful art pieces right there...

And I know this was posted in the other threads about the ME2 romances, but it can't hurt to advertise this survey on the romances some more:

http://social.biowar...ndex/10290010/1

If you were dissatisfied by Thane's treatment: Go and take the survey!

Go!Go!Go!Go!Go!
(Totally quouted from ME1)

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Cosmochyck wrote...


All of this!!  I wish there had been a renegade interrupt to punch him.  My Shep started in ME2, so no VS romance, and Kaidan was still hitting on her 3 seconds after Thane died.  So brutal.  Did they want to make sure we didn't miss the romance options?  Because most seemed very in your face. 

And for those that didn't know...we have a united ME2 romance thread - it's here!


i was just thinking about this!  i played on ps3; my computer is about 5 years old now and can't even handle minecraft, much less mass effect.  bioware always plays up that you can join into this trilogy at any time, and i started with me2.  my connection was to the story of me2, the characters of me2.  when i played me3, i just felt so screwed about it all, like the whole experience and 100 hours or so of play time i invested in me2 was disposable.

i realize more people probably play on xbox or computer, but i think the ps3 fans got screwed generally, not just because me2 was sort of set aside for those of us who can't play the first installment, but due to quality issues as well.

anyway, there are so many things they could have done differently, and i would LOVE to see kolyat join up if thane has to die, or even the chance to talk to him again.  my biggest complaints, though are a) this doesn't seem like the same thane we romanced at the end of me2, B) what?  we couldn't even get ONE lousy conversation about something besides his dying after seeing him again? and c) the lack of achievement or acknowledgement of the romance from anyone else.

i keep thinking of liara saying, "oh shep, i'm sorry!" about earth.  i even sought her out after thane's death, thinking she might be the one character who would say something, but not a word.

ps.  i liked edi better before she had a body, and the joker romance was a bit ridiculous.  not that i'm trying to dis the joker/edi fans, mind you.  just that i was already invested in seeing more thane in this game, not seeing a new romance.  

pps.  the voice acting in the shane/fshep scene was weird.  he sounds so emotional when he first sees her, but then slips into virtual indifference.  fshep sounds like a pervy slimeball instead of someone reconnecting with her dying lover.

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Miss Krios wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok, dropping this here because it's awesome and she's a fabulous artist - and she's as heartbroken as we are!!
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by Smailika07


It is amazing:wub:


Oh, my heart...

Has anyone linked her to our facebook page >_>. We could get a ton of hits if even a few artists posted links on their pics to the facebook page...

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braxy29 wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...


All of this!!  I wish there had been a renegade interrupt to punch him.  My Shep started in ME2, so no VS romance, and Kaidan was still hitting on her 3 seconds after Thane died.  So brutal.  Did they want to make sure we didn't miss the romance options?  Because most seemed very in your face. 

And for those that didn't know...we have a united ME2 romance thread - it's here!


i was just thinking about this!  i played on ps3; my computer is about 5 years old now and can't even handle minecraft, much less mass effect.  bioware always plays up that you can join into this trilogy at any time, and i started with me2.  my connection was to the story of me2, the characters of me2.  when i played me3, i just felt so screwed about it all, like the whole experience and 100 hours or so of play time i invested in me2 was disposable.

i realize more people probably play on xbox or computer, but i think the ps3 fans got screwed generally, not just because me2 was sort of set aside for those of us who can't play the first installment, but due to quality issues as well.

anyway, there are so many things they could have done differently, and i would LOVE to see kolyat join up if thane has to die, or even the chance to talk to him again.  my biggest complaints, though are a) this doesn't seem like the same thane we romanced at the end of me2, B) what?  we couldn't even get ONE lousy conversation about something besides his dying after seeing him again? and c) the lack of achievement or acknowledgement of the romance from anyone else.

i keep thinking of liara saying, "oh shep, i'm sorry!" about earth.  i even sought her out after thane's death, thinking she might be the one character who would say something, but not a word.

ps.  i liked edi better before she had a body, and the joker romance was a bit ridiculous.  not that i'm trying to dis the joker/edi fans, mind you.  just that i was already invested in seeing more thane in this game, not seeing a new romance.  

pps.  the voice acting in the shane/fshep scene was weird.  he sounds so emotional when he first sees her, but then slips into virtual indifference.  fshep sounds like a pervy slimeball instead of someone reconnecting with her dying lover.



 
Cake??  That was brilliantly put!  Agree on all points.

I have mentioned this before, but it was a few months past in the Thane Thread, but they could have easily done this right for the romancers AND those that wanted (yuck) Thane to die.  If LM was a success, and/or Thane was romanced and alive by the end of ME2, give the man some autonomy, and have him CHOOSE to extend his life (i.e. lung transplant, lung medi-gel, space magic I don't care....)  This would take place DURING those six months that Shepard and him are separated.  Still meeting him in the hospital then would work for those that didn't meet the above conditions, and for his CHOOSING to extend his life. 

If he has chosen to extend his life, he still needs to check in with his Dr.'s, maybe needs some health maintenance, ect....If the above conditions were met, we have romance dialogue specific to his extending his life, and we get the chance to reaffirm the relationship.  Added dialogue/scenes, the likes.  Then, when the fight with Kai Leng happens, if you are in a romance with him(or friended with LM successful), he doesn't get hurt badly but Kai Leng knows that you (Shep and Co.) are now on the scene, and Kai Leng takes off.  Rest of the scene plays out as normal.  You still go to the hospital to check on him, those that didn't pursue a relationship with him (friend or LI) get the deathbed scene. 

Those that did romance/friend him, get the chance to do a side mission for assets, AND for Thanemancers we also get a love scene.  Since he was never intended to come back as a squaddie (yeah, wattever..), you can suggest that him and Kolyat return to Kahje (or they can stay on Kahje if that is where the side quest is.)

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*EDIT*

Just a quick added note.  Some players who still wish to be friends with Thane, BUT still want his death (yuck), could have a few flag markers set up in the first set of dialogue options you get.  For example, make a convo similiar to the Alistair "Hardening" dialogue.  First two times I played DAO, I didn't choose the correct set of options to "harden" Alistair.  This could then be a flag that if triggered (or in this case NOT triggered), get the deathbed scene instead.  This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 20 mars 2012 - 09:39 .


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coldwetn0se wrote...

This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.


^^^  THIS

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Playing ME3 with a romance that isn't Thane is SUCH a completely different experience, it's really quite depressing just how much this botched element can pull you out of the story and ruin the whole thing.

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braxy29 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.


^^^  THIS


THIS... BUT:

Don't send them to Kahje, for god's sake, that's where this Keprals nonsense started!

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Visii wrote...

braxy29 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.


^^^  THIS


THIS... BUT:

Don't send them to Kahje, for god's sake, that's where this Keprals nonsense started!


LOL True....but is that where the Hanar are working on a cure??

*EDIT*
It should be noted that this really is just a life EXTENTION (say maybe 12 months or so).  This would then make it more plausible for different character arcs, but give those that wish the best outcome for him, the chance he would need to perhaps get a cure.  The idea that he would CHOOSE to extend his life for three things is VERY in character
1) for his son
2) for his lover (shep)
3) to help his commrade in arms, stop the reappers.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 20 mars 2012 - 10:13 .