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Protesting the Poor Treatment of Thane Krios' Romance


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lyssalu wrote...

apparently kelly chambers gets more romantic content than thane and jacob did

seriously this is kelly chambers and shep banging in a crate

and you can get the paramour achievement from her!

what?


:crying:

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ME2 remains the best video game of all time for me, mainly cause of thane. the other squadmates became dear to me from that point on. it's the only game i played myself since the first mario brothers. i'm unlikely to finish ME3 past thane's death. don't see any point. will probably just play multiplayer and chase around all the drells and have fun with friends i met during ME2. i thought this would open a new world of gaming for me. apparently not. i'm done with gaming. this is as far as i go.

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

freakmomah wrote...

Hugs hugs hugs to Squeegee...


Indeed!!

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you want one too? come over here then! lol!

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Witty_Remark wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

apparently kelly chambers gets more romantic content than thane and jacob did

seriously this is kelly chambers and shep banging in a crate

and you can get the paramour achievement from her!

what?


:crying:


They had damn well better make a hotfix for the Thane relationship counting for the cheevo then. I don't have to do the tango with him, I just want affirmation that the relationship mattered.

#105
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Yeah I still don't understand why Thane doesn't get a paramour achievement. I really dislike that they forced Jacob to leave Shepard, but at least that explains the lack of achievement. Seeing as he... left her and all.

Thane didn't end the relationship though. He died. He still loved her and she (well, my shep at least) still loved him. I guess until death do us part indeed.

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Witty_Remark wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

apparently kelly chambers gets more romantic content than thane and jacob did

seriously this is kelly chambers and shep banging in a crate

and you can get the paramour achievement from her!

what?


:crying:

oh my god. D:
seriously....? :crying::crying::crying:

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Witty_Remark wrote...

Does anyone know why the extended dialogue was cut? It couldn't have been because Thane was taking up too much time in the storyline. Was there some difficulty animating the scene? What happened?

I just don't understand.


From what I have seen, and I've finished the game, they had problems animating anything. I've never seen so many collision/graphics problems in a single game. What the hell were they doing for those three extra months? It certainly wasn't improving the story or fine-tuning anything.

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lyssalu wrote...

apparently kelly chambers gets more romantic content than thane and jacob did

seriously this is kelly chambers and shep banging in a crate

and you can get the paramour achievement from her!

what?


What.

I mean, I'm happy for those who wanted to romance Kelly, but she gets the Paramour achievement and neither of the full ME2 male LIs did?

I think my brain just broke.

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has bioware made any comment yet towards the failed ME2 romances and endings?

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Is there a facebook page for this yet? I know the "Demand a Better Ending" group has gone up 491 likes since 1:17 this afternoon.

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mnomaha wrote...

Is there a facebook page for this yet? I know the "Demand a Better Ending" group has gone up 491 likes since 1:17 this afternoon.


No. Anyone want to make one? I would but I'm really not too good with Facebook.

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Squeegee83 wrote...

has bioware made any comment yet towards the failed ME2 romances and endings?


Other than Weekes saying they forgot about how Thane's death might impact the player, I don't think anyone has mentioned it.

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Witty_Remark wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

has bioware made any comment yet towards the failed ME2 romances and endings?


Other than Weekes saying they forgot about how Thane's death might impact the player, I don't think anyone has mentioned it.


I bet Weekes is regreting saying it. His comment is floating around everywhere here and on other websites.

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Squeegee83 wrote...

Witty_Remark wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

has bioware made any comment yet towards the failed ME2 romances and endings?


Other than Weekes saying they forgot about how Thane's death might impact the player, I don't think anyone has mentioned it.


I bet Weekes is regreting saying it. His comment is floating around everywhere here and on other websites.


I kind of feel bad for him. I'm sure his colleagues are going 'WHYYYYYYY WOULD YOU TELL THEM THAT?!'

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Thane's one of my favorites, and my Thanemancer's getting the next run through. I could live with most of it -- the achievement would be nice -- but it'd really help if someone besides Garrus (MAYBE) even noticed the new name on the wall. And that includes my Shepard. Well. And Kai Leng. And again, Garrus, MAYBE.

When I got to the Kai Leng fight on Thessia, Garrus responded to the "Your friend Thane died like a coward!" and Garrus shot back "I'll tear his head off!" I promptly reloaded. Still there. And then I vanguard charge/nova'd that bastard. Grrrrrrr...

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I don't remember Kai Leng ever mentioning Thane. At least I got to tell him that his death was for Thane.

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It was the second time he hides behind the gunship. As he charges, he yells "Your friend Thane died like a coward!" He followed that up with something about joining him but was drowned out by Garrus and the vanguard charge noise. With a line like that, he needs a ballistic Shepard to the face.

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lyssalu wrote...

apparently kelly chambers gets more romantic content than thane and jacob did

seriously this is kelly chambers and shep banging in a crate

and you can get the paramour achievement from her!

what?


That is ridiculous.
Kelly gets the paramour achievement but Thane and Jacob don't.

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A quote from a dear friend. I thought it was quite funny, and true.

"Also, while watching the hub's playthrough, just noticed Jack's totally got her headlights going in Purgatory. Rock on bioware... I'm glad they made sure to get all the important details. Wouldn't want to DROP THE BALL ON ANYTHING."

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Visii wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Is there a facebook page for this yet? I know the "Demand a Better Ending" group has gone up 491 likes since 1:17 this afternoon.


No. Anyone want to make one? I would but I'm really not too good with Facebook.


I'll support the hell out of it, but my facebook page is all default. :)

Someone?

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To show my support for this thread and in the hope bioware pays attention to fan response I'm reposting my response from the "Thane Thread: 'It's difficult. All things worth keeping are."

Like many people on this forum, I'm heartbroken. Especially about how sidelined Thane was. The dialogue lines were so inadequate. I kept going back to the hospital after missions expecting more dialogue and scenes to open up. Why would they feel a romanced Thane's death scene didn't require more than what MaleShep and Sheps who didn't romance him got? Also, in my 100% playthrough not one person ever mentined Thane again except for Kai Leng! I also was upset Kolyat appears for only a brief time and then we never see or hear from him again. It's definitely been a traumatic experience, my Shepard spent a lot of time standing in the empty Life Support room staring at the mug and in front of the memorial wall.
Also, whether you agree or not with the possibility of a cure for Thane having been included the fact that Joker apparently is fine in almost all endings regardless of his need for daily medical attention, the Quarians immune systems being fixed by Geth, and other examples makes me wonder just how "necessary" and "realistic" his demise really was to the story.

I'd only add that if other character's stories, such as Tali for example, were based on the choices Shepard makes then there is no reason Thane should not have had the same options available in his. Like utaker1988 mentioned, PS3 owners would have met both characters in ME2 so no reason to consider either less of a character. Yet Tali's story can end happily with her on her home planet having her immune system fixed or it can end tragically with her jumping off a cliff. Those choices should have been available to Thane's story. Let us decide, which is what Mass Effect was always supposed to be about.
It's also a tragedy Shepard and Thane never saw a desert together.

Modifié par Kaija, 12 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

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#122
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mnomaha wrote...

Visii wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Is there a facebook page for this yet? I know the "Demand a Better Ending" group has gone up 491 likes since 1:17 this afternoon.


No. Anyone want to make one? I would but I'm really not too good with Facebook.


I'll support the hell out of it, but my facebook page is all default. :)

Someone?


if anyone does do this, it would probably be wise to make it a group centered around how lacking ME2 romances were all together.

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I completely agree with the OP and I found much more bad things about handeling Thane's romance as I thought about for myself when watching it yesterday.
I.e. I did noch recognize that Thane giving up and just sitting there waiting for his final breath was totally out of charakter when you romanced him. How could I forget about this - must have been because my Shep was so excited to meet him again and was nervous like a teenage girl having its first rendezvous:wub:.  

One thing I would like to add o all the other hints that Thane should have a chance to be cured or simply to be in good condition in ME 3 is this: In ME 2 he tells Shepard, that for the next 9-12 months he will be fine and his illness will not affect his performance. So, if ME 3 is taking place only 6 months after ME 3 - why is the Kepral syndrome now in the final state? There should be at least 3 months until the Kepral syndrome becomes worse or worst. Even the dossier in the LotS tells us, that Thane's condition is not too bad.

Levvi wrote...

Did you guys hear the extended version of
his death scene?! It's much better than what we were given!. I'm beyond
angry that it was cut from the game.

Here you go.

If you're interested :)


Unfortunately the link to the website works, but on the page I cannot klick the link for the extended version. Would someone please tell me, what is in the extended lines (here or via PM)? I really would like to know about this.

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@lyssalu, yeah, I was thinking about that too. Jacob fans got pretty shafted too.

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I somehow like how the romance with Thane ends. We knew from the beginning he would die soon (a magic cure was unlikely), so it was only a temporary thing.
He died as hero after saving the councillor. He fights hard despite he was really weakened by his illness at this time.
It was not bad storytelling imho because his death induced feelings of sadness and at the same time it arouses burning hate at Kai Leng and Cerberus.
Now I will go Rambo on them if I see this scum again. They will pay for it. Just wait!

But I admit I missed a discussion between Shepard and her friends about Thane's death, too.

Modifié par mccool78, 12 mars 2012 - 11:26 .