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[mnomaha]

I'm sticking with my theory that the Hanar have a cure, just won't distribute it and lose all their...help.

[RShara]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Visii wrote...

braxy29 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.

^^^  THIS

THIS... BUT:

Don't send them to Kahje, for god's sake, that's where this Keprals nonsense started!

LOL True....but is that where the Hanar are working on a cure??

*EDIT*
It should be noted that this really is just a life EXTENTION (say maybe 12 months or so).  This would then make it more plausible for different character arcs, but give those that wish the best outcome for him, the chance he would need to perhaps get a cure.  The idea that he would CHOOSE to extend his life for three things is VERY in character
1) for his son
2) for his lover (shep)
3) to help his commrade in arms, stop the reappers.

I support this!

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

I'm sticking with my theory that the Hanar have a cure, just won't distribute it and lose all their...help.

"Don't insult me Shepard."

LOL I have actually wondered the same thing.  They only intend to use it if the Drell population dips to much...<bastarts>

[SeaSunny]

I see that most of the things going through my head has already been written, still, I wanted to do something, show my support. ME3 is such a great game, even if it broke my damn heart.
After Thane's death I just sat and stared at the screen in disbelief. The love of my Shepard's life was gone and she didn't seem to care. She kept no memento. No one spoke of he loss. Everyone, even my Shepard, acted like Thane hadn't mattered.
So I'm not just mourning Thane, I'm mourning my Shepard. Because my Shepard died in that room with him.

[coldwetn0se]

SeaSunny wrote...

I see that most of the things going through my head has already been written, still, I wanted to do something, show my support. ME3 is such a great game, even if it broke my damn heart.
After Thane's death I just sat and stared at the screen in disbelief. The love of my Shepard's life was gone and she didn't seem to care. She kept no memento. No one spoke of he loss. Everyone, even my Shepard, acted like Thane hadn't mattered.
So I'm not just mourning Thane, I'm mourning my Shepard. Because my Shepard died in that room with him.

Hugs and cake....lots of cake.....and booze.  We feel your pain.

[mnomaha]

Geez Thane, it's not like they're gonna tell you that and hope you'll forget.

And I've always thought that. It's not like they can fight or anything, so they would have be...IDK scientists? What else have they got to do besides swim or other jellyfish things. Mordin can engineer/cure the Genophage in a couple years but the Hanar can't cure a bacterial infection in that amount of time? Oh please...*insert eye roll*

[mnomaha]

SeaSunny wrote...

I see that most of the things going through my head has already been written, still, I wanted to do something, show my support. ME3 is such a great game, even if it broke my damn heart.
After Thane's death I just sat and stared at the screen in disbelief. The love of my Shepard's life was gone and she didn't seem to care. She kept no memento. No one spoke of he loss. Everyone, even my Shepard, acted like Thane hadn't mattered.
So I'm not just mourning Thane, I'm mourning my Shepard. Because my Shepard died in that room with him.

Yeah, I'm left with BitterShep and she's a major ****. I actually spend half of my battles friendly-firing my squad. Except for Vega. It's not his fault. He got short-strawed too.

>.> Can we turn off the friendly fire option?

[EvanesceKunoichi]

ERRR Just remembered **Spoiler**
When you guys fought kai leng, did you hear him say, "Thane died like a coward"
My blood boiled at that moment...and of course the only person who acknowledges his death is the one who taunts you about it... XO

[lyssalu]

RShara wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Visii wrote...

braxy29 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.

^^^  THIS

THIS... BUT:

Don't send them to Kahje, for god's sake, that's where this Keprals nonsense started!

LOL True....but is that where the Hanar are working on a cure??

*EDIT*
It should be noted that this really is just a life EXTENTION (say maybe 12 months or so).  This would then make it more plausible for different character arcs, but give those that wish the best outcome for him, the chance he would need to perhaps get a cure.  The idea that he would CHOOSE to extend his life for three things is VERY in character
1) for his son
2) for his lover (shep)
3) to help his commrade in arms, stop the reappers.

I support this!

yes!  these are the choices we should have had.  

[sunnie7699]

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

ERRR Just remembered **Spoiler**
When you guys fought kai leng, did you hear him say, "Thane died like a coward"
My blood boiled at that moment...and of course the only person who acknowledges his death is the one who taunts you about it... XO

WHAT. I must have missed this in my playthrough, but I can NOT believe Kai Leng said that! Especially because HE was the one who was hiding behind a gunship and what not! It just makes him look more stupid than his character already did.

Oh Thane How could bioware have screwed up this much? It's not even comprehensible

[braxy29]

mnomaha wrote...


Yeah, I'm left with BitterShep and she's a major ****. I actually spend half of my battles friendly-firing my squad. Except for Vega. It's not his fault. He got short-strawed too.

>.> Can we turn off the friendly fire option?

oddly enough, i liked vega, even though he was so much different from thane.  i would have had a "help me forget" fling with him, put that goofy charm and that young body to some use, but that was a no-go as well.  

honestly, i don't think femsheps had many options for het relationships in me3.  not that i mind the possibility of a romance with the ladies, but as i prefer men, i would have liked another man around.  my renegade has ashely, but from everything i have heard about kaiden, i'm not sure he would be to my taste.  as it is, i was nice to liara and suddenly i got the romance achievement???  just being nice to her when she talks about her childhood gets you that, but for thane?  nope.  <_<

Modifié par braxy29, 20 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[EvanesceKunoichi]

sunnie7699 wrote...

EvanesceKunoichi wrote...

ERRR Just remembered **Spoiler**
When you guys fought kai leng, did you hear him say, "Thane died like a coward"
My blood boiled at that moment...and of course the only person who acknowledges his death is the one who taunts you about it... XO

WHAT. I must have missed this in my playthrough, but I can NOT believe Kai Leng said that! Especially because HE was the one who was hiding behind a gunship and what not! It just makes him look more stupid than his character already did.

Oh Thane How could bioware have screwed up this much? It's not even comprehensible

I know that got me so upset! He's so stupid because he says that while the huge gunship is right behind him, it's like...seriously kai leng, you should not be calling anyone a coward! Escecially our amazing Thane! xO

Modifié par EvanesceKunoichi, 21 mars 2012 - 12:01 .

[JECW]

FemShep definitely got the short end of the stick.
Her LI either dies or dumps her. You are left with Garrus or Kaidan, and Kaidan is the only one you can start a new romance with. So pretty much just Kaidan since they didn't give us Vega as an option. Not that I would have ever picked him over Thane.

[braxy29]

SeaSunny wrote...

I see that most of the things going through my head has already been written, still, I wanted to do something, show my support. ME3 is such a great game, even if it broke my damn heart.
After Thane's death I just sat and stared at the screen in disbelief. The love of my Shepard's life was gone and she didn't seem to care. She kept no memento. No one spoke of he loss. Everyone, even my Shepard, acted like Thane hadn't mattered.
So I'm not just mourning Thane, I'm mourning my Shepard. Because my Shepard died in that room with him.

hugs here as well.  i can't even tell most people why i am so incredibly bummed right now, because they won't get it, even a lot of mass effect fans don't get it, which is depressing.  i am amazed that i had such an attachment to a fictional character, but the fact is that, between me 2 and my current play through on me3, i have put in 140 hours, plus at least that many on the fic i started, probably double when i think of the time i spent researching and working it out in my head.  i'm so disgusted about it all, i don't think i will finish the fic.

i really feel like i lost a friend, and i feel like an ass for having been so involved in the fandom.  i feel fairly well mocked by bioware's handling of this (what?  they FORGOT that thane was an LI?), and i'm disappointed that i've lost the motivation to write about it.  every time i start to think about how i will handle it in my fic, i feel foolish all over again for having gotten so into it and then for being so disappointed about it.

i'm trying to force myself to finish the game (what for?  the ending sucks), but when i hit a rough spot last night (i'm better suited to fighting cerberus than husks and rachni), i had to ask myself why it was worth the bother.

you know, the thane romance was such a disappointment, but the ending on top of it is so depressing.  as someone else around here said, i don't invest 100 hours of my life into something for a depressing ending, i want to walk away feeling like a hero.  i have heard some people compare the game to a movie or a book; who is this bummed about a sad movie ending?  the fact remains that i did not spend only 2 hours on a movie and feel moved to tears at the end.  i have invested a LOT of time in this, and i almost think that bioware lost sight of a) what made us love mass effect and what gaming is supposed to be about.

at times like this, i just have to remind myself that i read a quote from one of the bioware peeps about how me3 concluded the series theme of "sacrifice."  i was mistaken when i played me2 and thought it was more about having hope against impossible odds.

[RShara]

I'm probably prejudiced against Kai Leng because of Thane, but he's always seemed to be a bit of a hack to me.
I like calling him cereal killer. He doesn't even deserve capitals for it.

I still say Thane should have won, even ill as he was.

[LucyMaire]

It's like Bioware didn't care about femshep.
Male Shepard's (straight) romance options:
Ashley, Miranda, Liara, Tali, Jack, Diana Allers (ew)
Femshep's (straight) romance options:
Garrus and Kaidan
And Mass Effect was always so good at keeping it fair!

[braxy29]

RShara wrote...

I'm probably prejudiced against Kai Leng because of Thane, but he's always seemed to be a bit of a hack to me.
I like calling him cereal killer. He doesn't even deserve capitals for it.

I still say Thane should have won, even ill as he was.

agreed.  in many martial arts, success in a match has less to do with superior physical strength and more to do with knowledge and state of mind.  i would have thought thane could take him down.  (oh, and i'm still not happy about everyone else derping around watching it happen without lifting a finger, or at least shep.)

[braxy29]

SPOILERS

let me also add that infamous 2 is a good example of a bitter-sweet ending. you can lose your hero but still win the war, and that makes the game a lot more worthwhile. they could have killed off thane without screwing over his fans, and they could have had plenty of "sacrifice" while still allowing for an uplifting ending.

[coldwetn0se]

braxy29 wrote...

SeaSunny wrote...

I see that most of the things going through my head has already been written, still, I wanted to do something, show my support. ME3 is such a great game, even if it broke my damn heart.
After Thane's death I just sat and stared at the screen in disbelief. The love of my Shepard's life was gone and she didn't seem to care. She kept no memento. No one spoke of he loss. Everyone, even my Shepard, acted like Thane hadn't mattered.
So I'm not just mourning Thane, I'm mourning my Shepard. Because my Shepard died in that room with him.

hugs here as well.  i can't even tell most people why i am so incredibly bummed right now, because they won't get it, even a lot of mass effect fans don't get it, which is depressing.  i am amazed that i had such an attachment to a fictional character, but the fact is that, between me 2 and my current play through on me3, i have put in 140 hours, plus at least that many on the fic i started, probably double when i think of the time i spent researching and working it out in my head.  i'm so disgusted about it all, i don't think i will finish the fic.

i really feel like i lost a friend, and i feel like an ass for having been so involved in the fandom.  i feel fairly well mocked by bioware's handling of this (what?  they FORGOT that thane was an LI?), and i'm disappointed that i've lost the motivation to write about it.  every time i start to think about how i will handle it in my fic, i feel foolish all over again for having gotten so into it and then for being so disappointed about it.

i'm trying to force myself to finish the game (what for?  the ending sucks), but when i hit a rough spot last night (i'm better suited to fighting cerberus than husks and rachni), i had to ask myself why it was worth the bother.

you know, the thane romance was such a disappointment, but the ending on top of it is so depressing.  as someone else around here said, i don't invest 100 hours of my life into something for a depressing ending, i want to walk away feeling like a hero.  i have heard some people compare the game to a movie or a book; who is this bummed about a sad movie ending?  the fact remains that i did not spend only 2 hours on a movie and feel moved to tears at the end.  i have invested a LOT of time in this, and i almost think that bioware lost sight of a) what made us love mass effect and what gaming is supposed to be about.

at times like this, i just have to remind myself that i read a quote from one of the bioware peeps about how me3 concluded the series theme of "sacrifice."  i was mistaken when i played me2 and thought it was more about having hope against impossible odds.

Bolded for truth.  I have felt EXACTLY like you.  I decided last week to "embrace the crazy"  (see what I did there.....embrace the crazy, embrace eternity.....anyone....no?)  I never finished either my newly created Shep or my first (and only) imported Thanemancer Shep.  Just had no will to do it.  I keep hoping something will come out of all of this, but don't really expect it will.  In the meantime though, I am grateful to have others to share these thoughts with, and I'm hoping that it will encourage me to go back at some point to play ME1 & ME2.  They feel tainted at the moment, but I really did love playing those games, so here's hoping...

Side note: Hoping to have another PDS installment in a few hours.  Trying to get dinner ready and typing at the same time.....messy.

[wildannie]

braxy29 wrote...


hugs here as well.  i can't even tell most people why i am so incredibly bummed right now, because they won't get it, even a lot of mass effect fans don't get it, which is depressing.  i am amazed that i had such an attachment to a fictional character, but the fact is that, between me 2 and my current play through on me3, i have put in 140 hours, plus at least that many on the fic i started, probably double when i think of the time i spent researching and working it out in my head.  i'm so disgusted about it all, i don't think i will finish the fic.

i really feel like i lost a friend, and i feel like an ass for having been so involved in the fandom.  i feel fairly well mocked by bioware's handling of this (what?  they FORGOT that thane was an LI?), and i'm disappointed that i've lost the motivation to write about it.  every time i start to think about how i will handle it in my fic, i feel foolish all over again for having gotten so into it and then for being so disappointed about it.

i'm trying to force myself to finish the game (what for?  the ending sucks), but when i hit a rough spot last night (i'm better suited to fighting cerberus than husks and rachni), i had to ask myself why it was worth the bother.

you know, the thane romance was such a disappointment, but the ending on top of it is so depressing.  as someone else around here said, i don't invest 100 hours of my life into something for a depressing ending, i want to walk away feeling like a hero.  i have heard some people compare the game to a movie or a book; who is this bummed about a sad movie ending?  the fact remains that i did not spend only 2 hours on a movie and feel moved to tears at the end.  i have invested a LOT of time in this, and i almost think that bioware lost sight of a) what made us love mass effect and what gaming is supposed to be about.

at times like this, i just have to remind myself that i read a quote from one of the bioware peeps about how me3 concluded the series theme of "sacrifice."  i was mistaken when i played me2 and thought it was more about having hope against impossible odds.

I agree with you, this sums up how i feel pretty much (esp bolded sections), I can't justify what BW did in my head AT ALL I never imagined they could or would let us down so badly in every way with Thane's romance, it shows such a disregard for fans.   I am also totally sickened by the selfish and dismissive comments from other fans who were not invested in the character, its just another reminder (if we needed it) that many people are only out for themselves, even if that means ruining things for others.

@coldwetnose  ... PDS?  yes please 

Modifié par wildannie, 21 mars 2012 - 12:22 .

[braxy29]

wildannie wrote...

@coldwetnose  ... PDS?  yes please 

i just asked this privately.  yes, where can we find this pds???  

[wildannie]

braxy29 wrote...

wildannie wrote...

@coldwetnose  ... PDS?  yes please 

i just asked this privately.  yes, where can we find this pds???  

coldwetnose has been cheering us up and keeping us entertained with Perpetually Drunk Shepard in the original Thane thread social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/7627292/303#10300118 being one example

Modifié par wildannie, 21 mars 2012 - 12:56 .

[braxy29]

@wildannie, much thanks

[SeaSunny]

braxy29 wrote...

SeaSunny wrote...

I see that most of the things going through my head has already been written, still, I wanted to do something, show my support. ME3 is such a great game, even if it broke my damn heart.
After Thane's death I just sat and stared at the screen in disbelief. The love of my Shepard's life was gone and she didn't seem to care. She kept no memento. No one spoke of he loss. Everyone, even my Shepard, acted like Thane hadn't mattered.
So I'm not just mourning Thane, I'm mourning my Shepard. Because my Shepard died in that room with him.

hugs here as well.  i can't even tell most people why i am so incredibly bummed right now, because they won't get it, even a lot of mass effect fans don't get it, which is depressing.  i am amazed that i had such an attachment to a fictional character, but the fact is that, between me 2 and my current play through on me3, i have put in 140 hours, plus at least that many on the fic i started, probably double when i think of the time i spent researching and working it out in my head.  i'm so disgusted about it all, i don't think i will finish the fic.

i really feel like i lost a friend, and i feel like an ass for having been so involved in the fandom.  i feel fairly well mocked by bioware's handling of this (what?  they FORGOT that thane was an LI?), and i'm disappointed that i've lost the motivation to write about it.  every time i start to think about how i will handle it in my fic, i feel foolish all over again for having gotten so into it and then for being so disappointed about it.

i'm trying to force myself to finish the game (what for?  the ending sucks), but when i hit a rough spot last night (i'm better suited to fighting cerberus than husks and rachni), i had to ask myself why it was worth the bother.

you know, the thane romance was such a disappointment, but the ending on top of it is so depressing.  as someone else around here said, i don't invest 100 hours of my life into something for a depressing ending, i want to walk away feeling like a hero.  i have heard some people compare the game to a movie or a book; who is this bummed about a sad movie ending?  the fact remains that i did not spend only 2 hours on a movie and feel moved to tears at the end.  i have invested a LOT of time in this, and i almost think that bioware lost sight of a) what made us love mass effect and what gaming is supposed to be about.

at times like this, i just have to remind myself that i read a quote from one of the bioware peeps about how me3 concluded the series theme of "sacrifice."  i was mistaken when i played me2 and thought it was more about having hope against impossible odds.

It's good to know that I'm not alone in feeling disappointed.
Honestly, I always feel bad criticize a game. There's so much good in ME and many people worked hard on making it that way, but I just can't be okay with what happened.

In a way, I had no problems with the ending I got. But really, I would have been alright with watching the entire galaxy burn. I just wanted to see whatever was left of my Shepard get to the end so that she could meet Thane again across the sea.

Don't feel bad for getting involved in the fandom (I'm curious about your fic, is it something I can read?). I don't regret getting attached to Thane. If Shepard won't remeber him then at least we will.

[bazzag]

For my part, i have nothing against Thanes death. I thought it was written well, and it was nice that he died a hero, as opposed to popping his clogs through illness, which i thought would most likely be the case.

However, i do understand that those who romanced him want more of a romance with him, or maybe exclusive choices or events, like with talis face. And so i agree with you, because
a) it would be nice 4 the character
all the ME2 romances (with exception of tali and garrus) appear to be quite basic
c) it would be nice for femsheps as their romances are far inferior through numbers and depth than man sheps.