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[wildannie]

@squeegee83 you're not a lone warrior

[sunnie7699]

I was just thinking, if Thane 'had' to die, it would have been nice (on top of squadmates actually acknowledging that Shep lost the man she loved, getting the paramour achievement, and having a scene before the end where shepard would at least look at a picture of thane as if remembering him) if shepard could have talked to Cortez about Thane when Cortez was putting up a picture of his husband on the citadel memorial wall. Maybe Shep could have put up a picture of thane too.

[braxy29]

Hainkpe wrote...
Like the embodiment that was so visceral in ME and ME2 is gone. The spirit, the soul, is lacking. This game was not made with love this game was made to make money. I get that, now. Get through a second time. This time, my Shepard dies. What's there left for her? Thane's dead so is the entire galaxy. Fine with me.

 

that is exactly how i felt.  i've tried to explain it to others, that something about this game just seemed cold compared to me2, but no one else seemed to understand what i meant when i have mentioned it.

i do think the interactions with anderson and hackett and cortez were well-done, and are the highlight of the conversations for me at this point.  whenever i talk to certain me2 squadmates (specifically garrus, liara and joker) on the ship, i don't sense as much of a rapport.  oh, and admittedly, mordin's story totally made me cry.

i see that someone else mentioned that shep could have shared her grief with cortez (i'm not sure how to quote both posts, and i'm pretty sleep-deprived atm).  wow, that would have made all of this so much better.  even if shep didn't say a word to anyone else, even if none of the rest of the crew mentioned his death, a few lines about it with cortez would have made it seem that the romance really was acknowledged by bw.  it would have made perfect sense.

[Big stupid jellyfish]

Guys, I noticed that some are already making videos for flashbacks in order to replace Liara's one with it. Can we make one on our own? As far as I understand, it's not that difficult, you just need to have some basic experience with any video editing software.

[Cyansomnia]

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Guys, I noticed that some are already making videos for flashbacks in order to replace Liara's one with it. Can we make one on our own? As far as I understand, it's not that difficult, you just need to have some basic experience with any video editing software.

I'm going to put something together, soonish, that shows what I personally didn't like about the whole Thane experience.  I wouldn't even call it a romance at all, at this point.

Liara's face in my flashback, included.  <_< 

[mnomaha]

sunnie7699 wrote...

I was just thinking, if Thane 'had' to die, it would have been nice (on top of squadmates actually acknowledging that Shep lost the man she loved, getting the paramour achievement, and having a scene before the end where shepard would at least look at a picture of thane as if remembering him) if shepard could have talked to Cortez about Thane when Cortez was putting up a picture of his husband on the citadel memorial wall. Maybe Shep could have put up a picture of thane too.

We didn't even get a picture. We got nothing but broken hearts and unfinished games.

[Visii]

mnomaha wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...

I was just thinking, if Thane 'had' to die, it would have been nice (on top of squadmates actually acknowledging that Shep lost the man she loved, getting the paramour achievement, and having a scene before the end where shepard would at least look at a picture of thane as if remembering him) if shepard could have talked to Cortez about Thane when Cortez was putting up a picture of his husband on the citadel memorial wall. Maybe Shep could have put up a picture of thane too.

We didn't even get a picture. We got nothing but broken hearts and unfinished games.

If Shepard got a picture of anyone in their cabin, it should have been Thane. A picture of them on their desert vacation, just before she turned herself in to the Alliance. Or just a picture of him. Anything!

[Cyansomnia]

Yeah, the vacation. What the heck happened to that? Did they spend any time together or did Shepard turn herself in immediately after Arrival? The timeline of what happened between ME2 and ME3 seems so wonky to me. Especially when he mentions "My doctor gave me three months to live, nine months ago."

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 21 mars 2012 - 02:40 .

[Hisilome]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Yeah, the vacation. What the heck happened to that? Did they spend any time together or did Shepard turn herself in immediately after Arrival? The timeline of what happened between ME2 and ME3 seems so wonky to me. Especially when he mentions "My doctor gave me three months to live, nine months ago."

From  that comment, I deduced they actually spent no time together between Arrival and ME3! Which is even sadder, considering the way things are going in ME3-not there yet, lol, I'm really  playing slowly and scanning for resources and whatnot...postponing the inevitable, I guess!

[mythlover20]

Hainkpe wrote...

Going through Thanes death the second time felt so, wrong. From when you meet Thane in the hospital to that moment. In the beginning Shepard wanted Thane. He missed her. Then he died and she just stood there. No. NO! WUT?! No.

This is not acceptable. Its like they couldn't figure out what someone in that moment should feel. So they just went silent. BS! NO. Ugh. The second time just left me feeling void, null.

There is no reminder of him anywhere. No picture then you get the letter from LotSB again. I cried then. Not because of Thanes death but because this is the best that could be done? This?

EA has taken the soul of BW and the BW that gave me KOTOR and BG is gone. Just gone.

The first time through I was pretty shocked numb. I just played. Did all the paragon choices. Just pick the top, get through. Now, I am looking at it again and again, I feel numb. Its like, something is missing from this game. Like the embodiment that was so visceral in ME and ME2 is gone. The spirit, the soul, is lacking. This game was not made with love this game was made to make money. I get that, now. Get through a second time. This time, my Shepard dies. What's there left for her? Thane's dead so is the entire galaxy. Fine with me.

Wow. I knew there was something incredibly off with this game, apart from the obvious, but I was never able to figure it out. Now I know.

I haven't felt any desire to replay this game yet. Yeah, it's still sitting in my PS3, but that's just because I haven't got anything else to play at the moment. I replayed DA:O about 9 times, 7 of them back-to-back. ME2 I played 2/3 times, (would have been more but I only got it about 6 months ago and it was lying around for a couple before I started), but this. It's just.... wrong. Yeah, the Garrus romance is the best they've ever done, and yeah Mordin dying made me cry, and Thane dying gave me a migraine from crying myself to sleep afterwards, but now, it's just... meh. That and there's so many little things. It's... rush. That's what it is. Rushed. The lead writers leaving didnt' help either, and the new lead writers weren't given enough time to familiarise themselves with the world they were now in control of.

Honestly, I'm starting to wish that EA hadn't bought out Bioware, and that bw just went into liquidation. Doesn't make much sense, because I think EA had bought it before DA:O came out, and I absolutely loved that game. But bw has defnintely taken a steep downward fall since EA got their hands on them.

[utaker1988]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Yeah, the vacation. What the heck happened to that? Did they spend any time together or did Shepard turn herself in immediately after Arrival? The timeline of what happened between ME2 and ME3 seems so wonky to me. Especially when he mentions "My doctor gave me three months to live, nine months ago."

That is probably what happened but in mine (since My Shep has always been a rebel) I imagined that they had to come seize the Normandy while it was docked at the Citadel and drag her out of her cabin and Thane's arms since that is where I last left her.  

[braxy29]

i just posted this on the thane thread, but here is a link to an artist on deviantart who takes commissions for jewelry. she might be willing to do a "fight for thane" something for us, or barring that we can just commission our own mementos.

http://solardiamond....allery/26667424

Modifié par braxy29, 21 mars 2012 - 03:07 .

[Hisilome]

Miss Krios wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok, dropping this here because it's awesome and she's a fabulous artist - and she's as heartbroken as we are!!

by Smailika07

It is amazing:wub:

Breathtaking, indeed!!

[braxy29]

mythlover20 wrote...
... and Thane dying gave me a migraine from crying myself to sleep afterwards, but now, it's just... meh. That and there's so many little things. It's... rush. That's what it is. Rushed. The lead writers leaving didnt' help either, and the new lead writers weren't given enough time to familiarise themselves with the world they were now in control of.

Honestly, I'm starting to wish that EA hadn't bought out Bioware, and that bw just went into liquidation. Doesn't make much sense, because I think EA had bought it before DA:O came out, and I absolutely loved that game. But bw has defnintely taken a steep downward fall since EA got their hands on them.

can someone explain this to me?  i saw some reference to it earlier.  when ea bought bioware, all the writers from me2 left?  i had no idea about this, only read the one comment from a writer that thane's romance had been forgotten due to the large writing team this time.  i had no idea that a whole new group of writers was determining the development of our favorite characters.   

[braxy29]

utaker1988 wrote...
That is probably what happened but in mine (since My Shep has always been a rebel) I imagined that they had to come seize the Normandy while it was docked at the Citadel and drag her out of her cabin and Thane's arms since that is where I last left her.  

that is how i imagined it as well.    would certainly explain thane's reaction when he sees her in the hospital, and his comment that his messages probably didn't make it past the guards.

[braxy29]

TO MASS EFFECT 3 PLAYERS, FROM DR. RAY MUZYKA, CO-FOUNDER OF BIOWARE
POSTED ON MARCH 21, 2012 BY DARKLARKE

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

[braxy29]

much thanks for your reply, hainkpe

[Aeyl]

Hey guys. I just wanted to say that if I'm able to do any art it'll be this weekend (still have a busy Thursday and Friday ahead of me)

I love reading the conversations on the thread. Makes you feel better when you know that you're not alone

[Cosmochyck]

braxy29 wrote...

TO MASS EFFECT 3 PLAYERS, FROM DR. RAY MUZYKA, CO-FOUNDER OF BIOWARE
POSTED ON MARCH 21, 2012 BY DARKLARKE

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

Already read it, and posted my 2 cents on the ME facebook page, as well as on Demand a better ending.

It's wonderful that the critics love it - but how many gamers buy something because a critic loved it?  I certainly don't as they have been known to be wrong.  Like now.
Forget the endings - there are fundamental issues here - bugs, flaws, lack of choice, lack of dialogue on the wheel, too much dialogue with no control in other places, and then the poor treatment of most of the ME2 squad!  Argh!! 

My Shep also never turned herself in.  She was holed up somewhere with Thane until they pried her from him.  Which is also why all the "cold" lines when you meet him in the hospital are so odd.  The whole thing is just a cluster****.

And keep up the tweeting, posting, whatever it takes to fight for Thane!

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 21 mars 2012 - 05:37 .

[Lilunebrium]

Hainkpe wrote...

I think they were given guidelines and a budget and told you can do this and this with these limited resources as well as include MP.

The MP function wasn't done by the same studio that was working on the SP campaign. No resources wasted there, unless people demand all BioWare studios should be working on the same project.

[coldwetn0se]

I really feel like they wanted to direct a movie (which I know has been said before). Using the term "artistic Integrity" felt like they could then dismiss the Role Playing aspect of the game (which is mostly gone for me).

On a funny aside, I was reminded of a movie quote while reading the statement from Dr. Ray, "......without us, you'd have no damn phone (game). At&t (bioware); we're tired of taking your ***t!" -Darryl Hannah, Crazy People

[disc0nnect7]

Cosmochyck wrote...

braxy29 wrote...

TO MASS EFFECT 3 PLAYERS, FROM DR. RAY MUZYKA, CO-FOUNDER OF BIOWARE
POSTED ON MARCH 21, 2012 BY DARKLARKE

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

Already read it, and posted my 2 cents on the ME facebook page, as well as on Demand a better ending.

It's wonerful that the critics love it - but how many gamers buy something because a critic loved it?  I certainly don't as they have been known to be wrong.  Like now.
Forget the endings - there are fundamental issues here - bugs, flaws, lack of choice, lack of dialogue on the wheel, too much dialogue with no control in other places, and then the poor treatment of most of the ME2 squad!  Argh!! 

My Shep also never turned herself in.  She was holed up somewhere with Thane until they pried her from him.  Which is also why all the "cold" lines when you meet him in the hospital are so odd.  The whole thing is just a cluster****.

And keep up the tweeting, posting, whatever it takes to fight for Thane!

I'm so sick of the endings being the only thing BW acknowledges-there's a lot more wrong in this game than the endings. If BW really read the forums along with FB and Twitter they'd see that fans are not only complaining about the endings. I know not everyone is complaining about only the endings in that feedback thread they put up a bit ago.

I hate that we have less dialogue, and choice over what Shep says. What happened to the conversation wheel? It seems like that only pops up every few conversations. Less player choice when it comes to interaction with the characters we love, and most of them have been reduced to lame cameo roles as well.

I know what you guys mean about the game feeling empty, it's really lacking in what makes Mass Effect great. The emotion and heart isn't really there, maybe it tries but it never makes it. It's like losing an old friend-they've changed and nothing feels the way it used to.

I think Mass Effect is all about the action, the combat, and the flashy (albeit few) cutscenes. We've got more weapons and the ability to mod them, and more options when it comes to custimizing armor-is that what BW thought was more of the "RPG element" people  said they were missing? Along with the addition of MP,BW is focusing less on RPG and more on action. Kill this, destroy this, blow up this-I just want more time to see the story unfold. To see Shepard deal with the immense responsibilty thrust upon her/him. And of course, to spend more time with the drell she loves.