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[LolaLei]

It's a shame the other crew mates never mentioned his death, though I think that's probably a glitch like the Liara and her father glitch.

[Isis 524]

LolaLei wrote...

It's a shame the other crew mates never mentioned his death, though I think that's probably a glitch like the Liara and her father glitch.

It's no glitch - they just didn't write it in. Would have been nice though.

[JECW]

LolaLei wrote...

It's a shame the other crew mates never mentioned his death, though I think that's probably a glitch like the Liara and her father glitch.

It isn't a glitch. They just forgot.

Modifié par JECW, 12 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[DarkPhoenixAsh]

Squeegee83 wrote...

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote…

It is a game but it's hard not to have some feelings, especially when certain storylines remind you of something that may have happened in your own life.

I completely understand and I agree. In ME2, Thane explains “Disconnected” in such a nice way. When you can’t control the outcome and/or feel that you’re body is working against you, it’s easy not to feel like a whole person. This term can apply in other areas as well (ie. Kolyat).

I believe for players like us, we can understand this term on a deeper level. However I will apply it lightly to the game. Mass Effect is about creating a character, making choices that determine the outcome and connecting with the characters. In a way, I feel that most of us see our Shepard as a little extension of ourselves.

The “disconnected” conversation was explained well.  Personally, it touched me because I know that feeling well at times.  I agree:  people like us would understand it on a deeper level.  (Unfortunately, I’ve also talked to a few people that didn’t understand it at all and claimed it was a cop out.  But whatever.)

You’re right about some of us seeing our Shepard as an extension of ourselves (I do).  It does explain a lot of the mixed feelings going around right now.

Now I think I nearly speak for everyone when I say that most of us became disconnected. Your little Shepard who is in a romantic relationship with a dying man, finds herself in a water down relationship and acting cold. This is not portraying how the player is feeling and therefore you start emotionally withdrawing from the game. I believe that is why most of us are getting quite upset.

When my femshep was talking to Hackett after Thane’s death, all I saw was an empty shell of a character. Her words and my concern to save the galaxy were no longer there. I wasn’t allowed the option to at least determine
one man’s fate and for players like you and me, who carry experience…. it’s like being stabbed in the chest. I know my femshep would have moved mountains to find either a cure or a way to prolong his life. I know you must have wanted the choice to ease his illness or cure it completely.

Watering down the relationship and the coldness did hurt.  They downplayed, chopped, and changed so much of the romance.  It’s sad because it had a lot of potential in this game.  You’re right:  I wanted a choice.  It didn’t have to be a “magical” cure, but I wanted to try prolonging his life at the very least.  With all the hints and discussions, I thought there was a chance.  Even if I had to go out of my way and do a really long quest chain in order to obtain it, my Shepard would have done it without thinking about it twice.

I believe the main problem here is that the writers deemed Thane’s character and romance unworthy. I feel they wanted us to be rid of him asap and move onto the other romance options in the game. I suppose you
can say they might have thought that we would just get over it. This may be true for the other failed ME2 romances. But when you are dealing with a sensitive subject like illness and death, they needed to do the responsible thing and handle it properly. Even if saving/prolonging Thane’s life doesn’t fit into the storyline, there is the right and wrong way of executed the death of a beloved character.

Agreed: it seems like they wanted us to move on right after he died.  As soon as I got back on the Normandy everyone wanted to “take it to the next level”.  Horrible timing.

Also agree with the bolded part.  You are absolutely right.  The ball was dropped and it wasn't handled well at all.

Modifié par DarkPhoenixAsh, 12 mars 2012 - 07:06 .

[Visii]

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Agreed: it seems like they wanted us to move on right after he died.  As soon as I got back on the Normandy everyone wanted to “take it to the next level”.  Horrible timing.

Also agree with the bolded part.  You are absolutely right.  The ball was dropped and it wasn't handled well at all.

They didn't just drop the ball, they hit us in the face with it.

[DarkPhoenixAsh]

Visii wrote...

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Agreed: it seems like they wanted us to move on right after he died.  As soon as I got back on the Normandy everyone wanted to “take it to the next level”.  Horrible timing.

Also agree with the bolded part.  You are absolutely right.  The ball was dropped and it wasn't handled well at all.

They didn't just drop the ball, they hit us in the face with it.

*Nods*
I wish I could disagree but I can't.

Modifié par DarkPhoenixAsh, 12 mars 2012 - 07:19 .

[Aeyl]

I feel worse about Thane's character reversal (is that the right word?), unavoidable death, and subsequent disappearance from almost everything than I am about the game's ending.

I would pay my 10$ soul for a DLC where we go to Kahje and find a cure or something.

[Aello89]

Aeyl wrote...

I would pay my 10$ soul for a DLC where we go to Kahje and find a cure or something.

Ironically, Mr. Weeks did tweet something about Kahje and a mission taking place there. But that was already quite some time ago. 

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/117053879211925504
"CONFIRMED. Major event happens at Kahje!!! :)"

"You really shouldn't worry about these things. Dekuuna matata!"


twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/117054809449832448
"Oh god, now when I see Kahje come up un the storyline, SOMEONE'S GON' DIE."

It seems it was all just another false hope given. Not to mention the conversation in the leaked script that looked like there was a possibility to save Thane. Though I can't guarantee if that's what it really implied on.

[Sarah1281]

I don't think it's really a character reversal when he goes from accepting his death to being scared and wanting to live to accepting it again. He was on his own for quite a few months since Shepard was busy being under house arrest and I think it's good that he managed to find peace again and - though still not happy about dying - accept it.

[Visii]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I don't think it's really a character reversal when he goes from accepting his death to being scared and wanting to live to accepting it again. He was on his own for quite a few months since Shepard was busy being under house arrest and I think it's good that he managed to find peace again and - though still not happy about dying - accept it.

It's change the same way Liara changed between Mass Effect 1 and 2. We don't get to see that change. It happens off camera. It cheapens the resolve he found at the end of ME2.

[wildannie]

Aeyl wrote...

I feel worse about Thane's character reversal (is that the right word?), unavoidable death, and subsequent disappearance from almost everything than I am about the game's ending.

I would pay my 10$ soul for a DLC where we go to Kahje and find a cure or something.

Me too, I think evokes the same felings in us as the endings  have for so many, except they brought it forward to near the beginning of the game.  The way people are feeling about the endings fits my feelings exactly.  I don't like the endings, but unless they fix Thane's romance I have little interest in any fix for them  (although I support it for the sake of everyone else).

[Cosmochyck]

In my game, I was just getting over SPOILER Mordin's death , and then poor Thane! It was too much too soon.

And I agree that the endings are a nightmare as well. So poorly written.

[mnomaha]

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

[wildannie]

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

I think it's a good idea, we're stronger together 

[lyssalu]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Melanie24 wrote...

Same here, glad more people think this way.
I'm so disappointed in the thane romance part of me3. Just finished the mission where he dies and I really feel like I don't even want to play me3 anymore now. 

But don't you guys think that's sort of the point?

Look at yourselves. You love Thane so much that when he dies, you can't even bring yourself to finish the game you've been waiting for 5 years to play. Clearly they struck a right chord in you if you guys love Thane that much. I think Bioware might be onto something here.

lol, we might be feeling that if the scene were done right

most people rage quit because of how poorly everything was handled

don't give bioware too much credit, boo

[EvanesceKunoichi]

I want a Cure for Thane DLC, in addition to a full game romance, as well as an option to have a happy ending with him by my side...Is that really to much to ask for?
And for those of you who actually liked the outcome of the game, that's fine they can leave it like that. All I'm saying is I would like to have these added options on top of the original ones, rather then them being forced upon me...

[lyssalu]

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

I think it's a good idea, we're stronger together 

miranda and jack should be included in this, as well.  they may not have been as screwed over as jacob and thane by virtue of them being male player love interests, but they still got shafted in comparison to the priority romances.  we were promised equality in content, not  this crap.

[Visii]

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

Oh, I am! Who's making one?

[lyssalu]

JECW wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's a shame the other crew mates never mentioned his death, though I think that's probably a glitch like the Liara and her father glitch.

It isn't a glitch. They just forgot.

yes, they admittedly forgot!

[Aello89]

lyssalu wrote...

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

I think it's a good idea, we're stronger together 

miranda and jack should be included in this, as well.  they may not have been as screwed over as jacob and thane by virtue of them being male player love interests, but they still got shafted in comparison to the priority romances.  we were promised equality in content, not  this crap.

I agree with lyssalu about this. Together we're stronger. Fully support the facebook page idea.

Modifié par Aello89, 12 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[lyssalu]

liesandpropaganda wrote...

yeah i didn't import a jack romance first but even the frond contend was NOT ENOUGH

kinda scared to import the romance even

all the feels will get stomped

you will rage if you import the romance don't do eet

esp if you're romancing liara right now

also thanks for the gif

[Cosmochyck]

I'm on board for facebook - definitely stronger together.

[Aello89]

double post

Modifié par Aello89, 12 mars 2012 - 09:16 .