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[mnomaha]

Okay, I'll start it but it won't be for a few hours as I'm at work. Unless someone else wants to do it...

[mnomaha]

lyssalu wrote...

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

I think it's a good idea, we're stronger together 

miranda and jack should be included in this, as well.  they may not have been as screwed over as jacob and thane by virtue of them being male player love interests, but they still got shafted in comparison to the priority romances.  we were promised equality in content, not  this crap.

Yep, I will definately include them. Also, can you give me a link for this pic? It is all kinds of awesome win!

[JECW]

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

It think its a great idea.

[lyssalu]

mnomaha wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

wildannie wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

So, I went AWOL for awhile.

Is anyone still interested in the combined (jacob/thane) facebook lament page?

I think it's a good idea, we're stronger together 

miranda and jack should be included in this, as well.  they may not have been as screwed over as jacob and thane by virtue of them being male player love interests, but they still got shafted in comparison to the priority romances.  we were promised equality in content, not  this crap.

Yep, I will definately include them. Also, can you give me a link for this pic? It is all kinds of awesome win!

http://28.media.tumb...94e9jo1_500.gif

there ya go!

[lyssalu]

liesandpropaganda wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Melanie24 wrote...

Same here, glad more people think this way.
I'm so disappointed in the thane romance part of me3. Just finished the mission where he dies and I really feel like I don't even want to play me3 anymore now. 

But don't you guys think that's sort of the point?

Look at yourselves. You love Thane so much that when he dies, you can't even bring yourself to finish the game you've been waiting for 5 years to play. Clearly they struck a right chord in you if you guys love Thane that much. I think Bioware might be onto something here.

no, it's not like that

see, for example i love Mordin and his death was really emotionally loaded for me

but it was the best moment in the game so far and i'd gladly replay it 1000 times over

but Thane's death is kinda

oh hey that's just

um

what just happened? 

also eveyone asks you how you're feeling about Mordin, and Thane is just a ghost nobody knew about

it's not the sadness thing for many people, but the realization that this particular issue was forgotten and half assed because they remembered too late

THIS

[mnomaha]

Thanks lyssalu. I had to post that one on the Demand facebook page.

[Hadeedak]

I THINK Garrus says something in front of the wall. Then again, only lost the one could refer to whoever got Virmire'd.

Either way, I can live with the lack of lines and achievement, but I'd REALLY like people to worry more about losing Thane than losing Ash/Kaidan. IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO, PEOPLE. Thane going out saving the council and your Shepard finding out that for once in her life, she can't fix it with fetch quests (I can get more drell blood!) is so much more recent and should be a lot rawer.

I'd also like more lines, romanced or not. And an achievement. But Garrus sort of caring, maybe, is way too little.

[JECW]

Garrus does say something, but not about Thane.
No one says anyting about Thane.

Modifié par JECW, 12 mars 2012 - 09:44 .

[lyssalu]

JECW wrote...

Garrus does say something, but not about Thane.
No one says anyting about Thane.

except for kai leng "HE WENT OUT LIKE A COWARD YO"

lmfao, nice one bioware

[Eliza]

Sarah1281 wrote...

One thing I would like to add o all the other hints that Thane should have a chance to be cured or simply to be in good condition in ME 3 is this: In ME 2 he tells Shepard, that for the next 9-12 months he will be fine and his illness will not affect his performance. So, if ME 3 is taking place only 6 months after ME 3 - why is the Kepral syndrome now in the final state? There should be at least 3 months until the Kepral syndrome becomes worse or worst. Even the dossier in the LotS tells us, that Thane's condition is not too bad.

When does he say that he has 9-12 months? If it's any point in time before the final love scene then you have to assume that time has passed between him saying it and the end of the game. And then there's six months between destroying the Collector base and/or blowing up that Mass Relay and the start of the game and then there's more time that passes before you meet up with Thane again.

Thane mentioned his expected lifespan when you talk to him after his recruitment.
Of course it is free for interpretation how much time has passed until you go to the collector's base. But I don't think that Shep is cruising through the galaxy for months until this happens. Maybe some weeks but not more than 6 months. So considering the worst case (6 months until the Omega-4 relay plus 6 months until ME 3) the Kepral's should not be in the final phase.

[Visii]

Hadeedak wrote...

I THINK Garrus says something in front of the wall. Then again, only lost the one could refer to whoever got Virmire'd.

Either way, I can live with the lack of lines and achievement, but I'd REALLY like people to worry more about losing Thane than losing Ash/Kaidan. IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO, PEOPLE. Thane going out saving the council and your Shepard finding out that for once in her life, she can't fix it with fetch quests (I can get more drell blood!) is so much more recent and should be a lot rawer.

I'd also like more lines, romanced or not. And an achievement. But Garrus sort of caring, maybe, is way too little.

THIS!

I was so ready to hunt down Feron. I mean, what IS he up to, anyway? And why even tell us that he needs more blood if it won't actually help? My heart started slamming around inside my chest when I got the option to say, "I'll get some blood." And even that was a tease!

[lyssalu]

Eliza wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

One thing I would like to add o all the other hints that Thane should have a chance to be cured or simply to be in good condition in ME 3 is this: In ME 2 he tells Shepard, that for the next 9-12 months he will be fine and his illness will not affect his performance. So, if ME 3 is taking place only 6 months after ME 3 - why is the Kepral syndrome now in the final state? There should be at least 3 months until the Kepral syndrome becomes worse or worst. Even the dossier in the LotS tells us, that Thane's condition is not too bad.

When does he say that he has 9-12 months? If it's any point in time before the final love scene then you have to assume that time has passed between him saying it and the end of the game. And then there's six months between destroying the Collector base and/or blowing up that Mass Relay and the start of the game and then there's more time that passes before you meet up with Thane again.

Thane mentioned his expected lifespan when you talk to him after his recruitment.
Of course it is free for interpretation how much time has passed until you go to the collector's base. But I don't think that Shep is cruising through the galaxy for months until this happens. Maybe some weeks but not more than 6 months. So considering the worst case (6 months until the Omega-4 relay plus 6 months until ME 3) the Kepral's should not be in the final phase.

yep, i noticed this too

bioware ur maths tho

[JGO1013]

Instead of wasting their time on a multiplayer mode and the whole kinect voice command im sure we would have had everything we wanted in this game.

Modifié par JGO1013, 12 mars 2012 - 10:35 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

Eliza wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

One thing I would like to add o all the other hints that Thane should have a chance to be cured or simply to be in good condition in ME 3 is this: In ME 2 he tells Shepard, that for the next 9-12 months he will be fine and his illness will not affect his performance. So, if ME 3 is taking place only 6 months after ME 3 - why is the Kepral syndrome now in the final state? There should be at least 3 months until the Kepral syndrome becomes worse or worst. Even the dossier in the LotS tells us, that Thane's condition is not too bad.

When does he say that he has 9-12 months? If it's any point in time before the final love scene then you have to assume that time has passed between him saying it and the end of the game. And then there's six months between destroying the Collector base and/or blowing up that Mass Relay and the start of the game and then there's more time that passes before you meet up with Thane again.

Thane mentioned his expected lifespan when you talk to him after his recruitment.
Of course it is free for interpretation how much time has passed until you go to the collector's base. But I don't think that Shep is cruising through the galaxy for months until this happens. Maybe some weeks but not more than 6 months. So considering the worst case (6 months until the Omega-4 relay plus 6 months until ME 3) the Kepral's should not be in the final phase.

I'm not comfortable with the idea that Shepard and Thane fell in love in the matter of weeks. Sorry, I'm not big on love at first sight and my Shepard certainly didn't fall for him for a while. I say at least three months spent together between meeting and then Shepard being arrested.

edit: Not to mention all the other characters and their loyalty missions and all the side missions. Weeks between meeting and the suicide mission and then a few weeks before Arrival. No. There's not enough time in weeks for all that.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 12 mars 2012 - 10:47 .

[mnomaha]

JGO1013 wrote...

Instead of wasting their time on a multiplayer mode and the whole kinect voice command im sure we would have had everything we wanted in this game.

Exactly! Who's stupid idea was it to implement a multiplayer on the last game in a trilogy? I'm not saying multi is a bad thing, because people seem to like it, but not for this game. They could have, and should have, done something about it later. After they finished the game perhaps.

Did they even test this game? The collisions are through the room. Probably literally at some points.


edit: that was supposed to be through the roof, but i have actually seen through the walls.

Modifié par mnomaha, 12 mars 2012 - 10:48 .

[22percent]

I have a Shepard that romanced Thane and a Shepard that romance Jacob, I feel that I got shat on twice with this game. But since it was the Thane romance that I was looking forward to the most and I didn’t find out about Jacob until after I beat the game, it was Thane’s treatment that bothered me more.

It wasn’t that fact that he died that bothered me. I was one of those fans who wouldn’t have minded it. But the fact that he dies so early in the game, getting only got one short conversation beforehand, and no acknowledgments from others about his death was what got me upset. If he was going to die, I wanted him to die near the end so that our Shepards would have gotten more time with him, have a date like you can with other characters, and get the paramour achievement.

So with the poor treatment of Thane, the poor treatment of Jacob, no other male options if Kaidan is dead (I made a post in the other thread about this), and the bad endings, it all leaves some really grumpy feelings for me and makes me not want to do a second play through.  I don’t think I’m even going to import my male Shepard that was with Jack since apparently she doesn’t have much romance screen time either.

[mopotter]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Aello89 wrote...
I would ask those;  are you willing to trade your LI’s story, interactions and scenes with ours? Would you like to swap places?
Would you like to see be stripped of choice like us, stripped of choice that you have?

My Jacobmancing Sheps would make that trade in a heartbeat. Just sayin.

In my opinion, Thane dying without player choice is an ok thing on it's own. He was a dying man. We all knew that when we met him. That doesn't bother me. It's something that was a part of his character form the very start.

What does is that there was not nearly enough romantic discussion between them, and, as you mentioned, no opprotunities to mention the relationship again. Hell, why couldn't we talk to Kolyat later on the Citadel, where he could even ask just what his father meant to Shepard? Or why not just a flashback if you enter his old room on the Normandy? I'm not asking to put him on equal par with the Squadmate romances, as that's quite a pull on developer time. But a few more mentions here or there would be nice.

Also, along with ANY of the LIs, it should be his face Shepard flashes back to last at the end, after Joker and Anderson. Not Liara. If they provided an alternate for the VS roamnces, they should have done the same for everybody else.

Thane was one of my favorite romances in ME2.   I didn't hate the ME3 bit but it could have been much better.  The make-out session at the hospital, where I blinked and it was over, they could have at least shown them leaving the area holding hands, and it did need some more conversations, maybe a lunch out would have been nice and yes, speeking to his son later.  But  I never expected Thane to make it through to the end of ME3 and my Shepard was prepared for his death.  Sad, but prepared.   She also lost Kaidan in ME1 so her romantic judgment isn't totally healthy.    I would certainly not have complained if they had miraculously found a cure for him, but his fight with Kai Leng definitly gave me one more reason to want him dead.  If Thane had not been ill, he would have won that fight.

I do agree 100% -  Jacob's romance is really really flawed.  How they could have done that is beyond my comprehension.  

Also agree that the last person Shepard thinks of is their LI, Liara is ok for my Shepards who didn't romance anyone, but again, what were they thinking.  The answer - They were not thinking.  

[lyssalu]

JGO1013 wrote...

Instead of wasting their time on a multiplayer mode and the whole kinect voice command im sure we would have had everything we wanted in this game.

right?

[lyssalu]

22percent wrote...

I have a Shepard that romanced Thane and a Shepard that romance Jacob, I feel that I got shat on twice with this game. But since it was the Thane romance that I was looking forward to the most and I didn’t find out about Jacob until after I beat the game, it was Thane’s treatment that bothered me more.

It wasn’t that fact that he died that bothered me. I was one of those fans who wouldn’t have minded it. But the fact that he dies so early in the game, getting only got one short conversation beforehand, and no acknowledgments from others about his death was what got me upset. If he was going to die, I wanted him to die near the end so that our Shepards would have gotten more time with him, have a date like you can with other characters, and get the paramour achievement.

So with the poor treatment of Thane, the poor treatment of Jacob, no other male options if Kaidan is dead (I made a post in the other thread about this), and the bad endings, it all leaves some really grumpy feelings for me and makes me not want to do a second play through.  I don’t think I’m even going to import my male Shepard that was with Jack since apparently she doesn’t have much romance screen time either.

gurl me and you

this was my situation exactly, right down to the maleshep who romanced jack

[mopotter]

22percent wrote...

I have a Shepard that romanced Thane and a Shepard that romance Jacob, I feel that I got shat on twice with this game. But since it was the Thane romance that I was looking forward to the most and I didn’t find out about Jacob until after I beat the game, it was Thane’s treatment that bothered me more.

It wasn’t that fact that he died that bothered me. I was one of those fans who wouldn’t have minded it. But the fact that he dies so early in the game, getting only got one short conversation beforehand, and no acknowledgments from others about his death was what got me upset. If he was going to die, I wanted him to die near the end so that our Shepards would have gotten more time with him, have a date like you can with other characters, and get the paramour achievement.

So with the poor treatment of Thane, the poor treatment of Jacob, no other male options if Kaidan is dead (I made a post in the other thread about this), and the bad endings, it all leaves some really grumpy feelings for me and makes me not want to do a second play through.  I don’t think I’m even going to import my male Shepard that was with Jack since apparently she doesn’t have much romance screen time either.

I'm planning on doing one more playthrough with a male Shepard, but that's it.  I'm not finishing any of the other Shepards that have a LI I care about.  Not unless they give us a dlc with a hopeful ending. I really need one ending where Shepard and whoever the LI is survives together.  And since that really can't happen with Jacob, poor Jacob is never going to go farther with Shepard than ME2.

So far as we probably have all mentioned somewhere, this is not a game I'm going to be replaying.  Yes, also sad and grumpy.

[Cyansomnia]

I support this thread. The ME2 characters and romances were not done justice. I doubt they'll ever care enough to fix it, but if the outcry of disappointed and angry people is overwhelming enough...

We'll see.

[Sarah1281]

Either way, I can live with the lack of lines and achievement, but I'd REALLY like people to worry more about losing Thane than losing Ash/Kaidan. IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO, PEOPLE.

But Shepard was dead for two of those years so for her it's like it was a year ago. Still longer than Thane was dead but not the three years it was for everyone else.

[Cosmochyck]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Either way, I can live with the lack of lines and achievement, but I'd REALLY like people to worry more about losing Thane than losing Ash/Kaidan. IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO, PEOPLE.

But Shepard was dead for two of those years so for her it's like it was a year ago. Still longer than Thane was dead but not the three years it was for everyone else.

But she was still over it - they never even mention that death in ME2.  If it was an issue, it should have been addressed then. 

[22percent]

lyssalu wrote...

22percent wrote...

I have a Shepard that romanced Thane and a Shepard that romance Jacob, I feel that I got shat on twice with this game. But since it was the Thane romance that I was looking forward to the most and I didn’t find out about Jacob until after I beat the game, it was Thane’s treatment that bothered me more.

It wasn’t that fact that he died that bothered me. I was one of those fans who wouldn’t have minded it. But the fact that he dies so early in the game, getting only got one short conversation beforehand, and no acknowledgments from others about his death was what got me upset. If he was going to die, I wanted him to die near the end so that our Shepards would have gotten more time with him, have a date like you can with other characters, and get the paramour achievement.

So with the poor treatment of Thane, the poor treatment of Jacob, no other male options if Kaidan is dead (I made a post in the other thread about this), and the bad endings, it all leaves some really grumpy feelings for me and makes me not want to do a second play through.  I don’t think I’m even going to import my male Shepard that was with Jack since apparently she doesn’t have much romance screen time either.

gurl me and you

this was my situation exactly, right down to the maleshep who romanced jack

Glad I'm not alone in this. As a bonus: my Shepard that romanced Thane was a vanguard. I'm pretty sure my combat style got even more aggressive and even more suicidal when Thane died.