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[Hisilome]

Niemalna wrote...

As much as I'm just pissed that Kaidan's all, "You cheated on me after being dead for two years and me moving on and dating some doctor and chewin' you out on Horizon and blahblah" I feel so bad for the guy in that scene.
Just wanna give him another pillow.

At the risk of sounding somewhat mean here...if Kaidan was alive in my Thane-romanced playthrough and he told my Shepard he 'forgave her for cheating on him', I'd go Javik on him-itching to try out that airlock!

[Moira-chan]

Hisilome wrote...

Niemalna wrote...

As much as I'm just pissed that Kaidan's all, "You cheated on me after being dead for two years and me moving on and dating some doctor and chewin' you out on Horizon and blahblah" I feel so bad for the guy in that scene.
Just wanna give him another pillow.

At the risk of sounding somewhat mean here...if Kaidan was alive in my Thane-romanced playthrough and he told my Shepard he 'forgave her for cheating on him', I'd go Javik on him-itching to try out that airlock!

haha omg o.o but i can understand it. it is cruel, really cruel, how bioware wants to push us into kaidans/liaras  arms

[Emeraldfern]

Hisilome wrote...

Niemalna wrote...

As much as I'm just pissed that Kaidan's all, "You cheated on me after being dead for two years and me moving on and dating some doctor and chewin' you out on Horizon and blahblah" I feel so bad for the guy in that scene.
Just wanna give him another pillow.

At the risk of sounding somewhat mean here...if Kaidan was alive in my Thane-romanced playthrough and he told my Shepard he 'forgave her for cheating on him', I'd go Javik on him-itching to try out that airlock!

He could join Allers on that trip:



After her argument with one of the crewmembers about Terra Nova this is exactly what I wanted.
After Kaidan's "I forgive you for cheating" the sentiment extended to him as well.

/Off-topic
Me and my brother who both love Mass Effect have an inside joke abot Diana Allers being "too young",
Because in Sweden, one of the most tacky magazines full of trash novels and articles about fashion whose primary demography are 40+ ladies, is called Allers. It's also been published since 1877.

[Moira-chan]

haha how funny
i never got the idea, even if i like javik so much, never got this on my mind
poor kaidan...did he deserve this? maybe...
would my shepard do it? definetly

[Hisilome]

LOL Yup, he can totally join Allers on that trip, no argument there-as said, I so want to try out the airlock,plus, it would definitely win Shepard cookie points with Javik, lol! Plus...he told her off on Horizon, and then comes back, fully expecting to be forgiven and taken back, as if nothing happened, and has the nerve, on top of everything else to tell Shepard he 'forgives' her? Really?? There should have been a renegade option there, or at least a 'will you shut up, you idiot?' option on the conversation wheel! :/

Not to say anything is...remiss for Shepard and totally not in character-and OK, I can accept for some, it might feel right and alright, but at least give the conversation wheel option for those whose Shepards WOULD sooner tell Kaidan off/throw him out of the airlock than allow him to be patronizing and self-righteous towards her-especially, for crying out loud, after Horizon!!

[utaker1988]

I had said before that when Javik got on me about throwing Legion out the airlock that it would not be Legion I tossed but Kaidan. But my FemShep will never get the chance, Kaidan got in her way of Udina and he had to go down. So, I never got the hitting on after Thane died but I heard it.

As stated earlier when Thane said, "seems there will be no one to mourn me when I die." I heard it again the other day while replaying, that was the point when I screamed, "oh the pain, it's true Thane, it's true they all forget except my poor Shep who runs back to life support and sniffs your chair just for your scent and then cries herself into a coma." I shut the game off after he said that and cried.

[Cosmochyck]

Tracido wrote...

Trust me, while I am lover of the franchise and there were plenty of amazing things throughout, the ending wasn't the only crap it's been dealt from pure business concerns, ehem. Artistic integrity my arse. He just wasn't as hugely popular as several others and it was blatant from the total disregard from everyone else when he died.

I also personally liked him. Even though I played a pure lesbian fem Shep and a partway through straight male Shep, I did consider my own character's romance with him (only male option in all 3 of games I had actually considered). It's a damn fantasy experience after all and I really thought he was a special character (who was dying in the first place) especially after I watched my friend play a romance with him, I actually felt a bit low like I'd missed an opportunity to make someone happy before they passed on, hell my in game LI might not have ever known anyway with how soon he's gone. (Amazing how some game actually did that, so yeah the writers did get several things right, hell she really honest to goodness cried when he died in game, I almost did myself)

Why they refuse to release a tool kit for fans to design scenes, add dialog, et cetera at the very least and such, complex as hell or not, I'll never know.

Considering he was ME2 poster boy, I find it hard to believe that he wasn't as popular as other characters.  I think the fanbase was just nice and polite, and we got ignored.  A "cure for Thane" banner was even created and sent to Bioware!  They hung it in their office!  And then ME3 comes out and BAM - dead.  Barely a word with him.  And the romance dialogue was atrocious.  I wanted to punch my own Shep - she would NEVER say the things BW made her say.  Awful.

[Cosmochyck]

Also folks, another good forum should anyone be interested! Might generate some new support!

http://www.holdtheline.co/

[EvanesceKunoichi]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Tracido wrote...

Trust me, while I am lover of the franchise and there were plenty of amazing things throughout, the ending wasn't the only crap it's been dealt from pure business concerns, ehem. Artistic integrity my arse. He just wasn't as hugely popular as several others and it was blatant from the total disregard from everyone else when he died.

I also personally liked him. Even though I played a pure lesbian fem Shep and a partway through straight male Shep, I did consider my own character's romance with him (only male option in all 3 of games I had actually considered). It's a damn fantasy experience after all and I really thought he was a special character (who was dying in the first place) especially after I watched my friend play a romance with him, I actually felt a bit low like I'd missed an opportunity to make someone happy before they passed on, hell my in game LI might not have ever known anyway with how soon he's gone. (Amazing how some game actually did that, so yeah the writers did get several things right, hell she really honest to goodness cried when he died in game, I almost did myself)

Why they refuse to release a tool kit for fans to design scenes, add dialog, et cetera at the very least and such, complex as hell or not, I'll never know.

Considering he was ME2 poster boy, I find it hard to believe that he wasn't as popular as other characters.  I think the fanbase was just nice and polite, and we got ignored.  A "cure for Thane" banner was even created and sent to Bioware!  They hung it in their office!  And then ME3 comes out and BAM - dead.  Barely a word with him.  And the romance dialogue was atrocious.  I wanted to punch my own Shep - she would NEVER say the things BW made her say.  Awful.

You are so right!! 
And I really wanted to knock my Shep out because she kept worring about Kaidan, You're supposed to be in love with Thane, not no Kaidan! X(

@Cosmochyck sorry wrong message part

Modifié par EvanesceKunoichi, 28 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[JECW]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Considering he was ME2 poster boy, I find it hard to believe that he wasn't as popular as other characters.  I think the fanbase was just nice and polite, and we got ignored.  A "cure for Thane" banner was even created and sent to Bioware!  They hung it in their office!  And then ME3 comes out and BAM - dead.  Barely a word with him.  And the romance dialogue was atrocious.  I wanted to punch my own Shep - she would NEVER say the things BW made her say.  Awful.

I think you are right. 
Thane may not seem that popular here, but BSN is actually a small minority so you can't go off of that. There are a lot more people out there who play the game and never come here. We haven't always been as vocal as some other groups, and have mostly kept to ourselve. Maybe that's why Bioware thought it would be ok to do this to us.

Modifié par JECW, 28 mars 2012 - 05:34 .

[Moira-chan]

JECW wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Considering he was ME2 poster boy, I find it hard to believe that he wasn't as popular as other characters.  I think the fanbase was just nice and polite, and we got ignored.  A "cure for Thane" banner was even created and sent to Bioware!  They hung it in their office!  And then ME3 comes out and BAM - dead.  Barely a word with him.  And the romance dialogue was atrocious.  I wanted to punch my own Shep - she would NEVER say the things BW made her say.  Awful.

I think you are right. 
Thane may not seem that popular here, BSN is actually a small minority so you can't go off of that. There are a lot more people out there who play the game and never come here. We haven't always been as vocal as some other groups, and have mostly kept to ourselve. Maybe that's why Bioware thought it would be ok to do this to us.

i think thane has a huge fanbase, bigger than most people guess. every mass effect gamer i met, just love thane or (most male players) actually like him. i did not met anyone that actualle...well hate is to hard, dislike him. everyone like him (at least)

[EvanesceKunoichi]

They wrote me again, they say they love him...but that's untrue

@masseffect Thane is my favorite character! So can we get more of him...Pretty please...(With a DLC on top!) ^.^

@eva_kunoichi Thanks for sharing! We love him too!

[JECW]

I think Thane is a lot more popular than people might think, but it shoudn't matter anyway.
They told us that all LI's would get a satisfactory conclusion, and that didn't happen. We didn't get any kind of equal treatment. They put absolutely no real effort in his romance in ME3. How coud he go from so much exposure in ME2 to pretty much nothing. Thane was treated as an afterthought. All the ME2 LI's were. Even Miranda didn't get much, and she is very popular.

[mnomaha]

I need a screen shot guys. The hospital scene with Shep and Kaidan. With the dialogue wheel please. I promise it will be worth your while.

[Xeyska]

mnomaha wrote...

I need a screen shot guys. The hospital scene with Shep and Kaidan. With the dialogue wheel please. I promise it will be worth your while.

Okie dokie. Working on it.

[wildannie]

JECW wrote...

I think Thane is a lot more popular than people might think, but it shoudn't matter anyway.
They told us that all LI's would get a satisfactory conclusion, and that didn't happen. We didn't get any kind of equal treatment. They put absolutely no real effort in his romance in ME3. How coud he go from so much exposure in ME2 to pretty much nothing. Thane was treated as an afterthought. All the ME2 LI's were. Even Miranda didn't get much, and she is very popular.

They wasted resources on plotlines that nobody would have missed (Joker & EDI springs to mind).  I don't mind EDI in ME3 but I *much* preferred her in ME2.  I found the whole Joker EDI thing creepy and a bit insulting to Joker... what are they trying to say? that he couldn't get a *real* woman?  

It's pathetic that they included this content when they hadn't satisfactorly concluded plotlines that were going to be crucial to sections of their customers enjoyment of their product.  Only after they were sure that the existing arcs had been thoughtfully executed in a way that was going to be enjoyable to their paying customers should silly side plots been added.  They had their priorities all wrong, its like they created the game in a vacuum...

[utaker1988]

All they wanted us to do is go running for one of the chosen LI's. Sad but true. Unfortunately when you give us a character to RP and tell us to mold it in our own image (throwback from some of their vids and ads in 2007 when they were announcing the first ME), some of us actually do that. I did. My Shep was me in so many ways, her thoughts, her feelings and they gave enough dialogue options in the first two games to reflect just about every mindset. Then comes 3 and they toss it all out the window, I sat there sometimes for a few moments thinking about what I was going to say because neither option fit my Shep.

Oh the way she treated Thane, it was awful. She came across as some horny teenager just anxious to get in his pants. WTF..that was not my Shep, she loved him and she was given the opportunity to fine tune and feel that love based on the decisions BW gave us to choose from in ME2. So, yes I do feel like they said, "Yeah, we let you get invested in Thane but guess what Shep we really want you to choose Kaidan, and should he be Virmire'd, here's Liara." No thank you, had I wanted those for my Shep, guess what? I would have chosen them to begin with.

Six months of separation and he obviously thought about her, he tried to send messages. After all that time, what we get is one flippin' convo about Kepral's and that make out scene which is out of place. Let's say for giggles that it is good, well it's placed as an option at the WORST possible time. He just tells you how is health is failing and this is what you want my Shep to do? Really? Are you serious? Yeah, let's make it more obvious that he's nothing more than a booty call.

After that time apart, I wanted to know the following: How was he doing? How are things going with Kolyat? Is there anything I can do for him? Why has his attitude changed? Is it because he now is closer to death? Did feeling like Shep abandoned him cause him sadness and loss of hope? Why did he not go for the lung transplant? Was it too late for him? Then after getting answers, I would have liked to tell him that I loved him, I thought about him, I missed him and I'm sorry. Sorry for being gone for so long, time never changed how I felt. He is free to pack up his crap and get out of this depressing hospital and join me, if not for anything more than spending time together. Reminds me of two painful pieces of dialogue in ME2, "Time is short for me, Siha, but any I have is yours to take" and "I will always be here to talk." Oh really? No you won't because the writers have a crappy story lined up for you. We won't be able to talk, you won't always be there, I won't have any more of your time because someone apparently didn't have time to research your character properly.

[Kaija]

@Jecw I agree. I think what we can really take from ME3 is that it was rushed or they were concentrating on something else besides writing the story. It's obvious they just threw in a few character deaths to try to emotionally shock us into not recognizing the nonsense they were throwing us throughout the game. A lot of what we got just seemed like cheap writing tricks when what we should have had was choices. ...Like to cure Thane.

[zennyrpg]

wildannie wrote...
They had their priorities all wrong, its like they created the game in a vacuum...

Its like they created this game in 2 years when they should have taken 3...

Seriously.  Think ME3 with 50% more content.  *Drools*

[Xeyska]

Xeyska wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

I need a screen shot guys. The hospital scene with Shep and Kaidan. With the dialogue wheel please. I promise it will be worth your while.

Okie dokie. Working on it.

I'm not sure if this is what you wanted. If you need a different one, let me know.

[Moira-chan]

wildannie wrote...


They wasted resources on plotlines that nobody would have missed (Joker & EDI springs to mind).  I don't mind EDI in ME3 but I *much* preferred her in ME2.  I found the whole Joker EDI thing creepy and a bit insulting to Joker... what are they trying to say? that he couldn't get a *real* woman?  

It's pathetic that they included this content when they hadn't satisfactorly concluded plotlines that were going to be crucial to sections of their customers enjoyment of their product.  Only after they were sure that the existing arcs had been thoughtfully executed in a way that was going to be enjoyable to their paying customers should silly side plots been added.  They had their priorities all wrong, its like they created the game in a vacuum...

i don't think so. i actually find them so cute together and i loved them. i think it should give this synthetic/organic conflict which rises in 2 another area.
in 2 you learn, that synthetics can be your friends (legion, edi) and now they fall in love...so its a kind of new connection between them.

[mnomaha]

@Xeyska, thanks!!! Do you also have the "sorry" one? Not sure which one I need right now.

[Moira-chan]

mnomaha wrote...

@Xeyska, thanks!!! Do you also have the "sorry" one? Not sure which one I need right now.

are you gonna add a kick ass choice? ^-^

[mnomaha]

It's a surprise...and totally Visii's idea. But you're gonna love it!!

[Xeyska]

mnomaha wrote...

@Xeyska, thanks!!! Do you also have the "sorry" one? Not sure which one I need right now.

The "sorry" one? Is that where Shepard romanced Kaidan and Thane?