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[mnomaha]

Yep, that's the one.

[Tracido]

Moira-chan wrote...

wildannie wrote...


They wasted resources on plotlines that nobody would have missed (Joker & EDI springs to mind).  I don't mind EDI in ME3 but I *much* preferred her in ME2.  I found the whole Joker EDI thing creepy and a bit insulting to Joker... what are they trying to say? that he couldn't get a *real* woman?  

It's pathetic that they included this content when they hadn't satisfactorly concluded plotlines that were going to be crucial to sections of their customers enjoyment of their product.  Only after they were sure that the existing arcs had been thoughtfully executed in a way that was going to be enjoyable to their paying customers should silly side plots been added.  They had their priorities all wrong, its like they created the game in a vacuum...

i don't think so. i actually find them so cute together and i loved them. i think it should give this synthetic/organic conflict which rises in 2 another area.
in 2 you learn, that synthetics can be your friends (legion, edi) and now they fall in love...so its a kind of new connection between them.

Thank you Moira, that was my only reason for siding with the Geth and fighting through the hell it was building up 2 games of outcomes to ensure I could solve the Quarian conflict peacefully, they had a soul, like EDI, and they weren't just creepy robots, neither of them.

As for you annie, that's just as selfish to wipe-out one section of characters as it was for them to wipe out Thane's, let alone, not even acknowledging, EDI was alive and so were the Geth, I also near shed tears when I had to stop him from uploading the code the first time (Legion) and he asked Tali as he kneeled down to die, "...do I have a..."

The other reason they (EDI & Joker) were added was so that the whole damn thing wasn't so helplessly depressing and had moments of humor.  Let's not also forget, he gets his arm broken from being rescued, he cannot be with a normal girl in his condition.  EDI can make her body as soft as she wants in any place Joker might need it, & yes it's in the dialog.

I still say Thane deserved better than what he got, and I will stand by that.  Also as for the comment earlier, I said hugely popular, the pages alone are in the 1000+ for some characters, as I said, that is where this made me sick, popular or not, give more closure when a romance dies, otherwise it's insulting.

Modifié par Tracido, 28 mars 2012 - 06:55 .

[wildannie]

as for you @Tracido WTF are you talking about? the Joker EDI romance was a NEW plotline I'm not trying to deny anyone anything that they already had, you wouldn't have missed it because it wasn't there before. I know they were good friends in ME2 and I loved EDI in ME2. I think what they did in ME3 cheapened her character by making it sexual which *I* found to be a bit creepy (its just my opinion). I didn't even mention the Geth, obviously that was a storyline that needed resolving as it was important in the other two games.
As for me not acknowledging that EDI was alive... did I say that she wasn't?? no, I don't think I did.

[Benathorn]

Ok I'm not a Thane romancer but I do find that the poor treatment of his romance in ME3 was not right for you guys who did engage him. I always found Thane alluring in a way but I will always be a Turian girl. Still when I saw his death I felt really bad and then wondered how bad this must be for everyone who did romance the guy. Anyway what I'm trying to say is I support you guys and I hope Thane comes back in some way, shape or form cause it just isn't right how they tossed him aside like that.

[Cosmochyck]

Benathorn wrote...

Ok I'm not a Thane romancer but I do find that the poor treatment of his romance in ME3 was not right for you guys who did engage him. I always found Thane alluring in a way but I will always be a Turian girl. Still when I saw his death I felt really bad and then wondered how bad this must be for everyone who did romance the guy. Anyway what I'm trying to say is I support you guys and I hope Thane comes back in some way, shape or form cause it just isn't right how they tossed him aside like that.

Thank you thank you!
Garrus is one of my faves out of ME, and I'm glad that you Garrusmancers did not have to endure the atrocities committed in the Thane romance.  Ugh.
We'd love to have him back!  Cure quest, hanar/drell war assets - voila!  Everyone happy!!  Shep & Thane go to the desert and let everyone else rebuild earth. 

[RShara]

For those throwing in their support, please sign too!

http://www.thepetiti...-game-petition/

[mnomaha]

@Benathorn...thanks for that! We need all the community support we can get, as there is none from bw themselves.

[Benathorn]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

Ok I'm not a Thane romancer but I do find that the poor treatment of his romance in ME3 was not right for you guys who did engage him. I always found Thane alluring in a way but I will always be a Turian girl. Still when I saw his death I felt really bad and then wondered how bad this must be for everyone who did romance the guy. Anyway what I'm trying to say is I support you guys and I hope Thane comes back in some way, shape or form cause it just isn't right how they tossed him aside like that.

Thank you thank you!
Garrus is one of my faves out of ME, and I'm glad that you Garrusmancers did not have to endure the atrocities committed in the Thane romance.  Ugh.
We'd love to have him back!  Cure quest, hanar/drell war assets - voila!  Everyone happy!!  Shep & Thane go to the desert and let everyone else rebuild earth. 

Well if it was anyone else's romance being thrown away like that then you would have a thread just like this. Garrusmancers, Talimancers, etc, can all understand that if this happened to them they would be raging just as hard. I'll be rooting for you guys and I was hoping to do some mission in ME3 to where I could help cure Thane but instead he just ends up dying. Kind of made me confused as to why I saw so little of him when they could have done so much more. I don't know, there are a lot of things wrong with ME3 that we are all fighting for so keep up the good fight and know there are others who support you!

Modifié par Benathorn, 28 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[wildannie]

@Benathorn it feels good getting support from the other fans, I also love Garrus, he was always a good friend to my sheps

[Tracido]

wildannie wrote...

as for you @Tracido WTF are you talking about? the Joker EDI romance was a NEW plotline I'm not trying to deny anyone anything that they already had, you wouldn't have missed it because it wasn't there before. I know they were good friends in ME2 and I loved EDI in ME2. I think what they did in ME3 cheapened her character by making it sexual which *I* found to be a bit creepy (its just my opinion). I didn't even mention the Geth, obviously that was a storyline that needed resolving as it was important in the other two games.
As for me not acknowledging that EDI was alive... did I say that she wasn't?? no, I don't think I did.

Then certainly Thane was creepy to others, I'm sure.  Probably why it was kept so tame in the first place.  Guess that's going to be my opinion then. ^.^

They clearly had something building especially towards the ending of ME2 EDI and Joker, and it fits.  The geth were just a comparison of another form of life like hers.

Benathorn wrote...

Well if it was anyone else's romance being thrown away like that then you would have a thread just like this. Garrusmancers, Talimancers, etc, can all understand that if this happened to them they would be raging just as hard. I'll be rooting for you guys and I was hoping to do some mission in ME3 to where I could help cure Thane but instead he just ends up dying. Kind of made me confused as to why I saw so little of him when they could have done so much more. I don't know, there are a lot of things wrong with ME3 that we are all fighting for so keep up the good fight and know there are others who support you!

Agreed.  I saw some character deaths and got ahold of some other ideas that got dropped and well I can certainly imagine, how that would have turned out.

Modifié par Tracido, 28 mars 2012 - 07:50 .

[JECW]

wildannie wrote...

They wasted resources on plotlines that nobody would have missed (Joker & EDI springs to mind).  I don't mind EDI in ME3 but I *much* preferred her in ME2.  I found the whole Joker EDI thing creepy and a bit insulting to Joker... what are they trying to say? that he couldn't get a *real* woman?  

It's pathetic that they included this content when they hadn't satisfactorly concluded plotlines that were going to be crucial to sections of their customers enjoyment of their product.  Only after they were sure that the existing arcs had been thoughtfully executed in a way that was going to be enjoyable to their paying customers should silly side plots been added.  They had their priorities all wrong, its like they created the game in a vacuum...

Joker and EDI was strange, but I could see that coming. I was pretty indiffernt to their relationship. I just don't know why they gave her a body, and put her on my squad. I do like EDI, but I was a bit surpised that she was a squad member.

[wildannie]

Tracido wrote...

wildannie wrote...

as for you @Tracido WTF are you talking about? the Joker EDI romance was a NEW plotline I'm not trying to deny anyone anything that they already had, you wouldn't have missed it because it wasn't there before. I know they were good friends in ME2 and I loved EDI in ME2. I think what they did in ME3 cheapened her character by making it sexual which *I* found to be a bit creepy (its just my opinion). I didn't even mention the Geth, obviously that was a storyline that needed resolving as it was important in the other two games.
As for me not acknowledging that EDI was alive... did I say that she wasn't?? no, I don't think I did.

Then certainly Thane was creepy to others, I'm sure.  Probably why it was kept so tame in the first place.  Guess that's going to be my opinion then. ^.^

They clearly had something building especially towards the ending of ME2 EDI and Joker, and it fits.  The geth were just a comparison of another form of life like hers.

I have no idea what your point is.  Are you getting shi**y toward Thane because I find a plotline a bit creepy?? Why should you care that I perceive it to be creepy??
Do you think that if Joker and EDI hadn't become an item in ME3 there'd be an active protest thread about it?... hardly.  
My point is that they sidelined existing plots that were already important to players,  to make way for new ones that, while enjoyed by many, would not have been MISSED because they were NEW.

@JECW  I agree, there was a connection between them in ME2 and it was quite charming, I didn't really like the way they took it in ME3 though.

Modifié par wildannie, 28 mars 2012 - 07:56 .

[lyssalu]

Benathorn wrote...

Ok I'm not a Thane romancer but I do find that the poor treatment of his romance in ME3 was not right for you guys who did engage him. I always found Thane alluring in a way but I will always be a Turian girl. Still when I saw his death I felt really bad and then wondered how bad this must be for everyone who did romance the guy. Anyway what I'm trying to say is I support you guys and I hope Thane comes back in some way, shape or form cause it just isn't right how they tossed him aside like that.

thank you

and i want your shepard and garrus to be able to adopt little krogan babbies!

[Benathorn]

lyssalu wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

Ok I'm not a Thane romancer but I do find that the poor treatment of his romance in ME3 was not right for you guys who did engage him. I always found Thane alluring in a way but I will always be a Turian girl. Still when I saw his death I felt really bad and then wondered how bad this must be for everyone who did romance the guy. Anyway what I'm trying to say is I support you guys and I hope Thane comes back in some way, shape or form cause it just isn't right how they tossed him aside like that.

thank you

and i want your shepard and garrus to be able to adopt little krogan babbies!

And not just Krogan babies. I'm wanting me some mutant turian babies and little orphan human babies too lol. I digress though, you guys don't even get that and that makes me really feel for you. I'd be devestated if that happened to my Shep and her romance so i can totally see where your coming from. Also i signed the petition and I hope that you get more signatures <3

[Tracido]

wildannie wrote...

Tracido wrote...

wildannie wrote...

as for you @Tracido WTF are you talking about? the Joker EDI romance was a NEW plotline I'm not trying to deny anyone anything that they already had, you wouldn't have missed it because it wasn't there before. I know they were good friends in ME2 and I loved EDI in ME2. I think what they did in ME3 cheapened her character by making it sexual which *I* found to be a bit creepy (its just my opinion). I didn't even mention the Geth, obviously that was a storyline that needed resolving as it was important in the other two games.
As for me not acknowledging that EDI was alive... did I say that she wasn't?? no, I don't think I did.

Then certainly Thane was creepy to others, I'm sure.  Probably why it was kept so tame in the first place.  Guess that's going to be my opinion then. ^.^

They clearly had something building especially towards the ending of ME2 EDI and Joker, and it fits.  The geth were just a comparison of another form of life like hers.

I have no idea what your point is.  Are you getting shi**y toward Thane because I find a plotline a bit creepy?? Why should you care that I perceive it to be creepy??
Do you think that if Joker and EDI hadn't become an item in ME3 there'd be an active protest thread about it?... hardly.  
My point is that they sidelined existing plots that were already important to players,  to make way for new ones that, while enjoyed by many, would not have been MISSED because they were NEW.

My point is are you 12?  Creepy, what a childish word.

My point also is that if it was overshadowed it certainly wouldn't have been by that, it was a small part in the overall.  There were tons of unfinished things and it was clear if they gave up that it wouldn't have been Thane that got focused on, it would have been another source for humor to balance the story's direction.

My next point is attacking other characters side relations for your own singular one just shows that maybe business was the best approach, everyone only cares most for their own specifics so focus on the most important to sales and let go of the rest.

Modifié par Tracido, 28 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[JECW]

wildannie wrote...

@JECW  I agree, there was a connection between them in ME2 and it was quite charming, I didn't really like the way they took it in ME3 though.

I understand. Giving her that body didn't help. I admit I would have much prefered Joker be with a real woman though. I did like his relationship with EDI in ME2.

[Cosmochyck]

I was ok with Joker & EDI. There were some funny lines, and I really didn't care that much about either of them anyway.
Whether or not they sidelined other things remains to be seen, and I suspect that if anything was getting the budget, it was the multiplayer, not other story lines.

Why, BW, why sideline Thane?

[Benathorn]

JECW wrote...

wildannie wrote...

@JECW  I agree, there was a connection between them in ME2 and it was quite charming, I didn't really like the way they took it in ME3 though.

I understand. Giving her that body didn't help. I admit I would have much prefered Joker be with a real woman though. I did like his relationship with EDI in ME2.

Ok I'm not siding with anyone on here but the whole EDI and Joker thing in ME2 was cute and being the naive person I am I really did not expect EDI to get a body and then she hooks up with Joker in ME3. My exact quote to this during my NG+ was "Oh so you can give EDI a shiny new body so she can live out her and Joker's creepy robo fantasy but you can kill Thane off like it was nothing?" Still I guess I just thought the whole thing was awkward to be honest.

[RShara]

Tracido: I don't get your point either here. I don't really care one way or another about Joker/EDI, but I can see how others can find it creepy.
And no, creepy isn't a childish term. I use it frequently to describe particularly disturbing things.

Yes, people only care the most about the characters and plots they like the most. That doesn't mean they can't see the points of, and respect, other people's viewpoints and opinions.

Example: I'm not a big Tali fan, but I can see how they can be pissed and upset at the cheap way BW handled her "face."

[Tracido]

Which merely clarifies the last point, business did what sells to the broader audience and selfish attitudes only get what they want in majority, simple, problems solved for the income and the 'opinions'.

[Shepard Krois]

Edi and joker romance felt like something from a fanfiction. I really didn't like he new body. I would trade her in for a me2 team mate anyday. (Thane or jack hell even miri).

[Tracido]

Jack and Miri, now this could have been a good replacement, those two had humor, and larger popularity (although I think Miri won pop contest by a landslide) but mainly it was just when they were together, would have had to bring both of them in for it to work.

[wildannie]

@Benathorn I think I love you

@Shepard Krois me too (preferably Thane though)

@RShara thanks for sticking up for my use of language 

Modifié par wildannie, 28 mars 2012 - 08:36 .

[JECW]

Benathorn wrote...

JECW wrote...

wildannie wrote...

@JECW  I agree, there was a connection between them in ME2 and it was quite charming, I didn't really like the way they took it in ME3 though.

I understand. Giving her that body didn't help. I admit I would have much prefered Joker be with a real woman though. I did like his relationship with EDI in ME2.

Ok I'm not siding with anyone on here but the whole EDI and Joker thing in ME2 was cute and being the naive person I am I really did not expect EDI to get a body and then she hooks up with Joker in ME3. My exact quote to this during my NG+ was "Oh so you can give EDI a shiny new body so she can live out her and Joker's creepy robo fantasy but you can kill Thane off like it was nothing?" Still I guess I just thought the whole thing was awkward to be honest.

This is pretty much how I saw it too.

[RShara]

Still not understanding what you are trying to say, but okay...

Also in most polls, Thane gets a better showing than Jack, and sometimes more than Miranda. He's generally first in the ME2 romancable characters (Tali and Garrus had established bases from1, so I tend to count them as from-1)