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[mnomaha]

I'll be working on the facebook page in a couple hours. Any suggestions?

[Visii]

mnomaha wrote...

I'll be working on the facebook page in a couple hours. Any suggestions?

Hnn. Well the foreshadowing that lead people to believe that there would be a way to cure Thane for starters.

- the in-game mention of the Hanar cure.
- the mention of his transplant candidacy in Lair of the Shadow Broker dossier.
- the CDN mention of the "Medigel for the Lungs" an article that was of no use or interest to any in the fanbase but Thane fans.

... also, the way that we were denied a way to save him, even though several other romanceable characters are afforded that opportunity, "because the emotional payoff would be worth it" ... only, it wasn't.

Modifié par Visii, 13 mars 2012 - 12:58 .

[mnomaha]

Oh yes, definately those things.

Thanks!

[Visii]

mnomaha wrote...

Oh yes, definately those things.

Thanks!

Oh, and of course the attention that the Cure Thane in ME3 banner got. Why recognize that at all, when an action such as posting a picture of it hanging in the office would be tantamount to saying, "We hear you, we know what you want" and then turning around and doing the direct opposite!

Modifié par Visii, 13 mars 2012 - 01:01 .

[Sarah1281]

But she was still over it - they never even mention that death in ME2. If it was an issue, it should have been addressed then.

But if that's the standard we're using then it took Shepard the amount of time it takes to walk back to the ship to get over Thane.

[JGO1013]

Squeegee83 wrote...

I would love nothing more but to start a thread in this forum about supporting and demanding better ME2 romances. However the only two fanbases right now I can defend is Jacob and Thane. Unless I come to understand the viewpoints of the Miranda and Jack fanbases, I wouldn't be able to defend it like it deserves. If people want to work with me, I will start one. However if there someone out there who understands all the fanbases, they should start one.

If anything I like to start a "Fight for the Achievement" thread. Us Thane and Jacob fans may have been screwed over, but it still doesn't mean we aren't entitled to our damn achievement.

Agreed I wasn't going to w h o r e  my shepard out just because Kaiden wanted me I actually thought I would have got the achievement just by being devoted to Thane:innocent:

Modifié par JGO1013, 13 mars 2012 - 01:07 .

[JECW]

mnomaha wrote...

I'll be working on the facebook page in a couple hours. Any suggestions?

The fact that we get no paramour achievement. This romance did happen, and we should have gotten one just like the other romances did.

The fact that Bioware told us these romances would all get equal treatment, but that's not what happened.

Modifié par JECW, 13 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[mnomaha]

We should have had our own achievement.

[lyssalu]

22percent wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

22percent wrote...

I have a Shepard that romanced Thane and a Shepard that romance Jacob, I feel that I got shat on twice with this game. But since it was the Thane romance that I was looking forward to the most and I didn’t find out about Jacob until after I beat the game, it was Thane’s treatment that bothered me more.

It wasn’t that fact that he died that bothered me. I was one of those fans who wouldn’t have minded it. But the fact that he dies so early in the game, getting only got one short conversation beforehand, and no acknowledgments from others about his death was what got me upset. If he was going to die, I wanted him to die near the end so that our Shepards would have gotten more time with him, have a date like you can with other characters, and get the paramour achievement.

So with the poor treatment of Thane, the poor treatment of Jacob, no other male options if Kaidan is dead (I made a post in the other thread about this), and the bad endings, it all leaves some really grumpy feelings for me and makes me not want to do a second play through.  I don’t think I’m even going to import my male Shepard that was with Jack since apparently she doesn’t have much romance screen time either.

gurl me and you

this was my situation exactly, right down to the maleshep who romanced jack

Glad I'm not alone in this. As a bonus: my Shepard that romanced Thane was a vanguard. I'm pretty sure my combat style got even more aggressive and even more suicidal when Thane died.

...

my shepard that romanced thane is also a vanguard

r u me

[utaker1988]

JGO1013 wrote...


Agreed I wasn't going to w h o r e  my shepard out just because Kaiden wanted me I actually thought I would have got the achievement just by being devoted to Thane:innocent:

This, I was stunned beyond belief that Thane didn't count.  He counted in 2 and it was stated that if you romanced 2 people you would have to make a choice.  Choice implies that you are choosing one romance over another.  I clearly made my choice and like many of us, got punished for it because what?  It wasn't the choice they wanted me to make.  Too bad, I still don't have the achievement and I won't, Thane counted whether they agree or not.  I also don't want them dancing around the wording either.  The achievement does say, "Establish or Rekindle a Romantic Relationship."  The fact my Shep was stuck on Earth away from Thane, then has to tell Thane that Kaidan was in the past (basically), kisses him and he acknowledges with "I see you want to pick up where we left off" (or close to it), then the make out session (yikes, in a room full of people), that pretty much tells me it was "Rekindled".   Poo on them for thinking otherwise.  My Shep is many things but a tramp, she is not.

[JECW]

utaker1988 wrote...

JGO1013 wrote...


Agreed I wasn't going to w h o r e  my shepard out just because Kaiden wanted me I actually thought I would have got the achievement just by being devoted to Thane:innocent:

This, I was stunned beyond belief that Thane didn't count.  He counted in 2 and it was stated that if you romanced 2 people you would have to make a choice.  Choice implies that you are choosing one romance over another.  I clearly made my choice and like many of us, got punished for it because what?  It wasn't the choice they wanted me to make.  Too bad, I still don't have the achievement and I won't, Thane counted whether they agree or not.  I also don't want them dancing around the wording either.  The achievement does say, "Establish or Rekindle a Romantic Relationship."  The fact my Shep was stuck on Earth away from Thane, then has to tell Thane that Kaidan was in the past (basically), kisses him and he acknowledges with "I see you want to pick up where we left off" (or close to it), then the make out session (yikes, in a room full of people), that pretty much tells me it was "Rekindled".   Poo on them for thinking otherwise.  My Shep is many things but a tramp, she is not.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the many things they forgot to do when it came to Thane.

Modifié par JECW, 13 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[Alknost]

I demand a patch. No DLC, a patch. Since the writers admitted they "forgot" about Thanemancers, I expect them to fix it. Whether or not bioware will follow through to fix this horrible blunder remains to be seen.

For the non-romanced storyline, it was somewhat sufficient (the Kai Leng fight was good, and so was the death), but the character flip-flop where Thane suddenly decides he's OK with dropping dead (after finding a reason to live in ME2) was hard to forgive. But for romance, wow, thanemancers may as well have their hearts ripped out and flushed down the toilet- I'm not referring to Thane's death, we all saw that coming- but the lack of closure and emotional disembowelment from being forced into the cold friend zone, it wasn't written like a romance at all. What was the point of having him romanceable in ME2 if there's nothing to look forward to in ME3?

[MakeMineMako]

Durgon Ironfist wrote...

He was terminally ill and still sought redemption. The man charged the most dangerous man in the galaxy and held his own. He was stabbed in the chest and still got up to return fire and as he was on his death bed he asked his gods to help his best friend/love. How in the sodding hell could they have done this any better?! You people are either dumb or insane! Perhaps both!

Agree for the most part.

Since I don't play FemShep (I play a Sheploo character who considered Thane a friend), I thought this was a good way for Thane to check out. He was dying from an incurable disease. It made perfect sense that a hero of his caliber would die a hero, defending his friends and the Council, rather than rotting away on his deathbed.

Besides, watching a terminally ill Thane show up Kai Leng was priceless. Mr. Space Ninja was forced to run like a chicken-sh*t when Thane proved to be a handful.

The final scene between him, his son, and close friend (Shepard) actually made me tear up.

On the other hand, I understand the frustration that Thanemancers feel. Mostly because just about all of the ME2 characters (that didn't appear in ME1) got the shaft in the romance department (except possibly Jack, who had some good scenes).

[Alknost]

mnomaha wrote...

JGO1013 wrote...

Instead of wasting their time on a multiplayer mode and the whole kinect voice command im sure we would have had everything we wanted in this game.

Exactly! Who's stupid idea was it to implement a multiplayer on the last game in a trilogy? I'm not saying multi is a bad thing, because people seem to like it, but not for this game. They could have, and should have, done something about it later. After they finished the game perhaps.

Did they even test this game? The collisions are through the room. Probably literally at some points.


edit: that was supposed to be through the roof, but i have actually seen through the walls.

There were a lot of things I felt were a waste of time, where they could have opted for a simplier solution for many things in order to focus more on the LIs.

One of many things that struck me as a waste of development resources were the little details in the game regarding trivial members characters who weren't in any quests in the previous games. I don't care about the former SR1 Alliance crew or the SR2 cerberus crew enough to want to have Shep go out of her way to reinstate them to the ship or have long, pointless conversations written for them. The time to write all the pointless stuff and animate the scenes could have been allocated for the LIs instead.

It doesn't matter whether someone romanced a ME1 or ME2 character, because both are equally important to the player. Someone who romanced Ash is going to be just as emotionally invested as someone who decided to romance Thane or Jacob. It sucks that all LIs didn't get equal treatment. 

[mnomaha]

Well said Squee!

[Lucky Thirteen]

I really enjoy multiplayer and from my understanding, a completely different team worked on multiplayer. It was not the same team as the singleplayer portion of the game.

I also really enjoyed having crew members from the previous games back. Especially happy to get Adams, Donnelly, and Gabby back. They were some of my favorite random NPCs.

I wouldn't want the entire game focused on the LI, this isn't a dating simulator. The romances add to the overall experience and it's not the only reason I play this game. I just would have liked a couple more conversations with Thane, couple of slightly more romantic, affectionate lines with Thane, a framed picture of Thane on the desk for my Shepard to pout at, and a damn paramour achievement.

One, damn, paramour achievement for Thane.

[JECW]

Squeegee83 wrote...

I am really starting to resent people who didn't romance Thane coming into this thread and leaving their 2 cents. Unless you picked Thane as your main LI, ya are not going to fully understand. Read the posts, there is quite a few in here that makes valid points before responding. Let's not add more insult to injury. I'm glad ur LI survived and you didn't have to witness their death, in a cold stoic way like we did. We are not whining for no reason. I just think having a really good romance like everyone else did isn't much to ask. After all, we did pay for the game like you did.

I agree
Most of the time it is people who didn't even do the romance or really talk to Thane who say things like that.
Luckily that guy was on the first page and never came back.

Modifié par JECW, 13 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[Kaija]

The point, for those who do not understand why we are upset, is that while other characters (such as Tali who had choices like jump off a cliff or have her immune system fixed!) had options Thane did not. Before jumping in here to comment try reading a few pages back to see our detailed reasons.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Kaija wrote...

The point, for those who do not understand why we are upset, is that while other characters (such as Tali who had choices like jump off a cliff ...

um....I don't think that's a good example sweetheart.

[Kaija]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Kaija wrote...

The point, for those who do not understand why we are upset, is that while other characters (such as Tali who had choices like jump off a cliff ...

um....I don't think that's a good example sweetheart.

Why is that? Some people were content with the storyline, some not. Some would just like more adequate dialog. All points are valid for those who have an interest in the character.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Kaija wrote...
Why is that? Some people were content with the storyline, some not. Some would just like more adequate dialog. All points are valid for those who have an interest in the character.

Because she's commiting suicide. Why is that a good example? You want Thane to commit suicide?

[forthary]

I would much rather see Thane's death be treated with more reaction with the crew than to bring Thane back. Yeah, he was cool, he reminded me of Morpheus, and all that stuff. But he knew he was going to die. A option to find a 'cure' for him would also be nice as well, because after all, where there's a will, there should be a way, and I think this game has the capability of demonstrating that well...although there are some bad examples of that in this game.