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[mnomaha]

*looks at signature* yeah, I noticed they were all sh!t.

[wildannie]

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'll agree to all of that but let's be honest..

Most "love interest" scenes in this game were crap to begin with unless they were in your active crew. Hell, Jacob cheats on you and gets another girl pregnant because he "couldn't wait forever".

He could barely run without it hurting him, a mission with him would've most likely been a 'defend Thane while he hacks the terminal' mission.

Again you're upset about Thane's romance path but his romance path is shared by nearly every other romance path.. only difference is that he dies.

Yeah, but that's a pretty BIG difference.   It made the whole game a depression fest for me.

[disc0nnect7]

mayrabgood wrote...

If space magic can happen  ....then anything can happen including a cure. It is a video game after all not real life.

Exactly-and a SCI-FI video game nonetheless. Space magic ftw

[jamesb71486]

I'm just saying that it was pretty much confirmed in ME2 that he was going to die. They all but said "he won't live to see the end of ME3". I just don't get how it came as a shock to people.

[mnomaha]

And I just don't get why the hell you are still here in our thread. I mean did the IQ just drop significantly since I posted the list on the previous page.

We are here because we want to be. This is our thread. If you don't support it and/or don't like it move the hell along.

Modifié par mnomaha, 29 mars 2012 - 07:33 .

[sunnie7699]

jamesb71486 wrote...

So you'd prefer to find some random, unheard of cure for a disease that is written into the genetics of Drell caused by the environment that they eventually caused themselves to live in in the first place?

While we're at it.. let's add in a cure for the Quarian immune system or make Tuchanka a cleaner, healthier place to live for the Krogans. It's basically what your asking for with a straight out cure for the Kepral's Syndrome for the Drell after all.

The codex said that there was currently no cure in ME2, but leading hanar scientists were working on a genetic adaptation, if this is what you are referring to. Just because it wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that their scientists weren't working on treatment and possibly a cure as well.
Bioware could have made it an OPTION, there could have been at least some sort of breakthrough in the six months that Shepard was under house arrest that hanar scientists created a really good treatment that prevented further damage and maybe even slowly started repairing damage done to other organs (if shepard can magically be revived from pulp then surely in the future a bit of organ damage can be repaired with a few credits, and not like shep can't provide the money).
It doesn't have to mean thane is completely cured but it could mean his life is extended past the end of ME3 so that he has a chance to be alive for a future cure at least. And maybe it would have only been possible to convince him to undergo this treatment if you had romanced him, that would make sense.

[wildannie]

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'm just saying that it was pretty much confirmed in ME2 that he was going to die. They all but said "he won't live to see the end of ME3". I just don't get how it came as a shock to people.

because they gave us hope by waving treatments infront of us in CDN and LotSB.  If they were going to make him unsaveable they should have made his death canon in ME2 rather than have his fans wait expectantly for 2 years for ... that 

[jamesb71486]

Really? Good luck getting support for your 'cause' with that kind of attitude. "Support us or STFU" really?

At least the whole "ending sucks" people were willing to listen to other forms of discussion.. and insulting my intelligence? Really?

"Good Luck", I mean that.. truly..

[disc0nnect7]

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'm just saying that it was pretty much confirmed in ME2 that he was going to die. They all but said "he won't live to see the end of ME3". I just don't get how it came as a shock to people.

Some of us believed that bw wouldn't just kill off a character that they spent so much time and effort on. I personally thought that bw might give those who romanced Thane a choice to save, or at least keep him around a little longer. Maybe have a big decision thrown in there, maybe go to Kahje and cure Keprals once and for all. All just hopeful musings though.

Thane saying that he's dying isn't really confirming he'd die in ME3 though. With everything Thane said-how he never wanted to die beeping away on some machinery in a hospital, how he is not at peace with his death-it kind of hinted at something, possibly his character arc taking a different direction instead of imminent death. I took it that way at least, and I'm sure a lot of Thane-mancers did as well.

[jamesb71486]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'm just saying that it was pretty much confirmed in ME2 that he was going to die. They all but said "he won't live to see the end of ME3". I just don't get how it came as a shock to people.

Some of us believed that bw wouldn't just kill off a character that they spent so much time and effort on. I personally thought that bw might give those who romanced Thane a choice to save, or at least keep him around a little longer. Maybe have a big decision thrown in there, maybe go to Kahje and cure Keprals once and for all. All just hopeful musings though.

Thane saying that he's dying isn't really confirming he'd die in ME3 though. With everything Thane said-how he never wanted to die beeping away on some machinery in a hospital, how he is not at peace with his death-it kind of hinted at something, possibly his character arc taking a different direction instead of imminent death. I took it that way at least, and I'm sure a lot of Thane-mancers did as well.

Exactly instead he died due to wounds substained in combat saving the Salarian Councilor having 'worked with' Shepard through the Citadel invasion. Could they have handled it better? Definitely but it became clear after the first dialogue with him in ME3 that there wasn't going to be a miracle cure.. it was either go out like he did.. or hooked up to machines slowly drifting away.

He got to say goodbye to his son and his friend/siha. All in all, his death could've been handled a lot worse. He could've been confined to a wheelchair and talking like a Volus for example.

[sunnie7699]

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'll agree to all of that but let's be honest..

Most "love interest" scenes in this game were crap to begin with unless they were in your active crew. Hell, Jacob cheats on you and gets another girl pregnant because he "couldn't wait forever".

He could barely run without it hurting him, a mission with him would've most likely been a 'defend Thane while he hacks the terminal' mission.

Again you're upset about Thane's romance path but his romance path is shared by nearly every other romance path.. only difference is that he dies.

Actually, Thane's romance was not up to the quality that Miranda's or even Jack's was. No real 'private time' or anything. And Jacob didn't even get a romance, at all. So I think it's more that a romanced Thane was treated like sh*t, and on top of Jacob having no romance it makes us feel like femshep got seriously shafted in this game in terms of equality. Sure Kaiden and Garrus had awesome romances, but it seemed like a big popularity contest in the romance department for ME3 and femshep romances got most of the hit.

[PsyrenY]

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

[jamesb71486]

sunnie7699 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'll agree to all of that but let's be honest..

Most "love interest" scenes in this game were crap to begin with unless they were in your active crew. Hell, Jacob cheats on you and gets another girl pregnant because he "couldn't wait forever".

He could barely run without it hurting him, a mission with him would've most likely been a 'defend Thane while he hacks the terminal' mission.

Again you're upset about Thane's romance path but his romance path is shared by nearly every other romance path.. only difference is that he dies.

Actually, Thane's romance was not up to the quality that Miranda's or even Jack's was. No real 'private time' or anything. And Jacob didn't even get a romance, at all. So I think it's more that a romanced Thane was treated like sh*t, and on top of Jacob having no romance it makes us feel like femshep got seriously shafted in this game in terms of equality. Sure Kaiden and Garrus had awesome romances, but it seemed like a big popularity contest in the romance department for ME3 and femshep romances got most of the hit.

This I will most definitely agree to. They even made Kaidan homosexual and gave not 1 but 2 new romance (for each sexuality ) options as opposed to the new 1 for femshep (for girl-on-girl only).

[sunnie7699]

jamesb71486 wrote...

disc0nnect7 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'm just saying that it was pretty much confirmed in ME2 that he was going to die. They all but said "he won't live to see the end of ME3". I just don't get how it came as a shock to people.

Some of us believed that bw wouldn't just kill off a character that they spent so much time and effort on. I personally thought that bw might give those who romanced Thane a choice to save, or at least keep him around a little longer. Maybe have a big decision thrown in there, maybe go to Kahje and cure Keprals once and for all. All just hopeful musings though.

Thane saying that he's dying isn't really confirming he'd die in ME3 though. With everything Thane said-how he never wanted to die beeping away on some machinery in a hospital, how he is not at peace with his death-it kind of hinted at something, possibly his character arc taking a different direction instead of imminent death. I took it that way at least, and I'm sure a lot of Thane-mancers did as well.

Exactly instead he died due to wounds substained in combat saving the Salarian Councilor having 'worked with' Shepard through the Citadel invasion. Could they have handled it better? Definitely but it became clear after the first dialogue with him in ME3 that there wasn't going to be a miracle cure.. it was either go out like he did.. or hooked up to machines slowly drifting away.

He got to say goodbye to his son and his friend/siha. All in all, his death could've been handled a lot worse. He could've been confined to a wheelchair and talking like a Volus for example.

Yes it could have been worse, but that would have just made no sense considering what his disease actually is, and also Thane wouldn't have allowed himself to get to that stage anyway. So no, I guess it couldn't have been worse actually. It SHOULD have been a lot better, considering a disease like this should have atleast interested SOME Salarian scientists and there should be at least some progress towards a cure or at least some form of viable treatment.

Even if we can't get a cure because space magic applies to everything but Drell, a better romance in general would be nice. Until then, I can't even play ME3, the game is ruined for me. So I'm going to keep fighting.

[disc0nnect7]

jamesb71486 wrote...

disc0nnect7 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

I'm just saying that it was pretty much confirmed in ME2 that he was going to die. They all but said "he won't live to see the end of ME3". I just don't get how it came as a shock to people.

Some of us believed that bw wouldn't just kill off a character that they spent so much time and effort on. I personally thought that bw might give those who romanced Thane a choice to save, or at least keep him around a little longer. Maybe have a big decision thrown in there, maybe go to Kahje and cure Keprals once and for all. All just hopeful musings though.

Thane saying that he's dying isn't really confirming he'd die in ME3 though. With everything Thane said-how he never wanted to die beeping away on some machinery in a hospital, how he is not at peace with his death-it kind of hinted at something, possibly his character arc taking a different direction instead of imminent death. I took it that way at least, and I'm sure a lot of Thane-mancers did as well.

Exactly instead he died due to wounds substained in combat saving the Salarian Councilor having 'worked with' Shepard through the Citadel invasion. Could they have handled it better? Definitely but it became clear after the first dialogue with him in ME3 that there wasn't going to be a miracle cure.. it was either go out like he did.. or hooked up to machines slowly drifting away.

He got to say goodbye to his son and his friend/siha. All in all, his death could've been handled a lot worse. He could've been confined to a wheelchair and talking like a Volus for example.

It's just a 180 from the person he was in ME2, he was content to just sit in a hospital on the Citadel, resigned to death. It's not the Thane we knew. Even after that first conversation with him in ME3 I still had flickers of hope we'd do a mission with him and find a way to cure or prolong his life. That was before I realized all ME2 characters had cameo roles. Can't blame me for hoping, I just wanted to believe bw would give us more than we got. Even if Thane were to die, they could have added more scenes for a Shep who romanced him. Maybe she dreams about him after he dies, or she has flashbacks of her time with him. Corny perhaps, but I think it might have helped the Thane-mancers deal with his death. If I had my way I would have dragged him onto the Normandy, set him up in Shep's cabin, and he could get his medical treatment from Dr Chakwas. Even if he wasn't able to assist in combat he could have have some other role on the Normandy.

I believe the "Attending doctor" you talk to states they were able to fix up the stab wound, but due to Keprals he was unable to survive with Kolyats blood transfusion. So it's more like he died due to Keprals, the wound just speeded it up.

[sunnie7699]

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

I personally don't find any appeal in the Jacob romance, and I only mildly liked his character, but saying Thane is a loser is basically saying every man who's previous wife died but finds new love is a loser. You're clearly a nice person.

[disc0nnect7]

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

Why are you posting on the main Thane thread and this one if you think he's a loser?

[mnomaha]

^^^ninja'd

edit: actually he's been visiting the Jacob thread too.

Modifié par mnomaha, 29 mars 2012 - 07:25 .

[Redrose2727]

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

Modifié par Redrose2727, 29 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[utaker1988]

Did someone say Space Magic? Oh yes, that wonderful thing that "cures" people from death (Shepard) and clones organs (Mass Effect: Revelation). You know what gets me is that if Liara, Tali, VS, Garrus got shafted and steamrolled into a one way path with one dialogue and no acknowledgement of a romance, I'd be standing there supporting them. I would not be standing here, with one or two fingers up and saying, "well, too bad for you." I want everyone who put their heart, their time, and paid their money to be satisfied with this series. Notice I didn't say "happy", I said satisfied or at least content. So, if having a better romance resolution to Thane and Shep's story is going to make some of us happy, why not just let us voice our displeasure. Don't chastise us for wanting what others experienced in their story, I'm not over in the Liara thread saying, "ha, no blue babies for you" or in Tali's saying, "ha, no house for you" because that is just mean and serves no purpose other than to upset them. If it makes them happy to ask for it, then all by all means let them ask. It is entirely possible that none of us will get anything but it never hurt to ask.

[disc0nnect7]

Redrose2727 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

*hugs*
Redrose, don't take what he/she says personally. I'd hate to see anyone get offended from somone's ignorant post.

Liam Neeson is a widow and he's definitely not a loser. He's a badass

[Redrose2727]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

*hugs*
Redrose, don't take what he/she says personally. I'd hate to see anyone get offended from somone's ignorant post.

Liam Neeson is a widow and he's definitely not a loser. He's a badass

*hugs back*

Thank you Disc0nnect7, I'm fine and I know there is always going to be a troll trolololing under some bridge somewhere, but such is life. I need to get a thicker skin anyway, however I am learning.

And I love Liam Neeson, you have great taste.

Modifié par Redrose2727, 29 mars 2012 - 07:44 .

[mnomaha]

Redrose2727 wrote...
 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

Sorry, I had to step away for a bit. I lost a friend to liver cancer two years ago. She was 32 years old with a 12 year old daughter. I get really tired of people talking about death as if it were insignificant.

*hugs* I'm with ya luv!

[disc0nnect7]

Redrose2727 wrote...

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

*hugs*
Redrose, don't take what he/she says personally. I'd hate to see anyone get offended from somone's ignorant post.

Liam Neeson is a widow and he's definitely not a loser. He's a badass

*hugs back*

Thank you Disc0nnect7, I'm fine and I know there is always going to be a troll trolololing under some bridge somewhere, but such is life. I need to get a thicker skin anyway; I am learning.

And I love Liam Neeson, you have great taste.

The internet will always have those lovely bridges for said people to camp under. Thoughtful of you to defend your friend, I would have done the same thing. Sometimes the ignorant things posted on the forums hits too close to home, we all have those moments.

You love Liam too?! I adore him, I always thought it'd be epic if Bioware hired him to do some voice acting in Mass Effect. I thought he did really well in Fallout 3. His voice can rival Keythe's (Thane's VA) in sexiness