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[disc0nnect7]

mnomaha wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...
 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

Sorry, I had to step away for a bit. I lost a friend to liver cancer two years ago. She was 32 years old with a 12 year old daughter. I get really tired of people talking about death as if it were insignificant.

*hugs* I'm with ya luv!

*hugs mnomaha too* I'm sorry about your friend, my heart goes out to you and her daughter. We've all felt the pain of loss, it just would have been so great to see Thane beat his illness. To prove he wasn't defined by it. I think it would have been inspiring, although most people seem to think it would "cheapen" his character. That logic frustrates me so, so much.

[mnomaha]

Yeah,me too.

Especially since I have a close family friend with a daughter with CF. Hmmm, she is a typical kid. Who goes to the hospital a fair bit. And she is a *typical* kid. Let's hope nobody finds out she has CF, that would define her for the rest of her life. Bloody wankers.

[disc0nnect7]

With the logic people apply to Thane's condition, it's pretty much like marking anyone with a chronic illness with a big black stamp that says "I am my illness".

We should be giving those people the respect they deserve, they're dealing with much more than the average healthy person has to. I admire people strong enough to fight against their illness, to strive not to let it define them or their lives.

[disc0nnect7]

mayrabgood wrote...

Edit: oops wrong thread 

But did someone say Liam Neeson? hehe I love that man 

Hehe, me and Redrose mentioned Liam Neeson. Huzzah for Liam lovers! *sigh* What a man

Err to make this relevant-Support a cure for Thane! Fight for a better Thane romance!

I'm out for the night-keep fighting ladies! 

Modifié par disc0nnect7, 29 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[mnomaha]

Awww Night D!

[Redrose2727]

mnomaha wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...
 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

Sorry, I had to step away for a bit. I lost a friend to liver cancer two years ago. She was 32 years old with a 12 year old daughter. I get really tired of people talking about death as if it were insignificant.

*hugs* I'm with ya luv!

 *hugs* mnomaha

I'm sorry about your friend and her daughter . I honestly cannot imagine what life would be like without my mom in it. I also just get so peeved as to why someone would think an illness would define a character or when people say Thane has to die to complete his character arc?! I just think that’s such bull. Life can be depressing enough and we can’t even replay a video game to escape it (at least I can’t) without feeling worse.
Sometimes when people talk about death like it’s not a big deal, all I can think is that they probably never lost someone close to them.

BioWare really dropped the ball here.

Modifié par Redrose2727, 29 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[mnomaha]

*sigh* yeah. I can only assume (I could be wrong) that these are maybe really young people who really have never experienced death by disease. I mean, can you imagine not wanting to save someone close to you just because they have a disease? I can't.

Yeah, they did drop the ball. I just wish it would bounce back and hit them as hard as they hit us.

[Redrose2727]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

 
 I have a feeling that you are not intending to be mean but it makes me feel kind of depressed that you would imply that Thane is a loser because he has a dead wife. I have a really close friend that was widowed two years ago and she is not a lesser person because of it and most of all she is not a loser. If you were just joking and I’m taking it the wrong way or something then I’m sorry but it did come across as kind of tacky..

*hugs*
Redrose, don't take what he/she says personally. I'd hate to see anyone get offended from somone's ignorant post.

Liam Neeson is a widow and he's definitely not a loser. He's a badass

*hugs back*

Thank you Disc0nnect7, I'm fine and I know there is always going to be a troll trolololing under some bridge somewhere, but such is life. I need to get a thicker skin anyway; I am learning.

And I love Liam Neeson, you have great taste.

The internet will always have those lovely bridges for said people to camp under. Thoughtful of you to defend your friend, I would have done the same thing. Sometimes the ignorant things posted on the forums hits too close to home, we all have those moments.

You love Liam too?! I adore him, I always thought it'd be epic if Bioware hired him to do some voice acting in Mass Effect. I thought he did really well in Fallout 3. His voice can rival Keythe's (Thane's VA) in sexiness

Yup! I'm a big Liam fan. I loved him in fallout 3 and everything else he does.  I could just listen to his voice for hours.......... *excuse me while I wipe the drool off my keyboard for a sec*

[Redrose2727]

mnomaha wrote...

*sigh* yeah. I can only assume (I could be wrong) that these are maybe really young people who really have never experienced death by disease. I mean, can you imagine not wanting to save someone close to you just because they have a disease? I can't.

Yeah, they did drop the ball. I just wish it would bounce back and hit them as hard as they hit us.

Oh let the ball bounce them hard enough to pound the sense back in! pleaseeeeeeeeee.

[Moira-chan]

hossa... i've missed a big discussion. oh man...
i guess i have to be awake longer at night, because it seemed like i really missed the funny things because i have to sleep xD
tomorrow is my last exam so i can be awake longer afterwards, yeah.
so i don't have to read 5 new pages every morning xD

ok, i find it great to get support from garrusmancer and so on just wonderfull how the fans stay together, because i love garrus, too (not so much as thane, but he's actually pretty cool too) and my best friend also is a garrusmancer from the bottom of her heart, but she can understand so well, how i feel, why i am disappointed. T_T that helped quite a lot.

someone in the life support? no way! never! just throw him out! javik. do your job (actually you're right, these two would have been nice to hear talking to each other)
but i was really confused about this too. first time i was, because liara stayed in miris room and i was thinking: wait? what about miranda? she won't come back? huuu....sad, it was fun arguing with her.
and mordins place has been destroyed T_T it hurts, just went through to come to the bridge and hearing this two women talking about anyting?
i would like to hear "cannot talk...how does the itch came aboard?" but at that way i knew, that will see him again, so ist was hard, but ok...

[mnomaha]

I love Garrus. I let him win the sniper contest up on the Presidium.

And Mordin's room. Yeah, that sucked. Even more so because of that stupid security station. Why do I *need* to stop every time.

[Redrose2727]

Moira-chan wrote...

hossa... i've missed a big discussion. oh man...
i guess i have to be awake longer at night, because it seemed like i really missed the funny things because i have to sleep xD
tomorrow is my last exam so i can be awake longer afterwards, yeah.
so i don't have to read 5 new pages every morning xD

ok, i find it great to get support from garrusmancer and so on just wonderfull how the fans stay together, because i love garrus, too (not so much as thane, but he's actually pretty cool too) and my best friend also is a garrusmancer from the bottom of her heart, but she can understand so well, how i feel, why i am disappointed. T_T that helped quite a lot.

someone in the life support? no way! never! just throw him out! javik. do your job (actually you're right, these two would have been nice to hear talking to each other)
but i was really confused about this too. first time i was, because liara stayed in miris room and i was thinking: wait? what about miranda? she won't come back? huuu....sad, it was fun arguing with her.
and mordins place has been destroyed T_T it hurts, just went through to come to the bridge and hearing this two women talking about anyting?
i would like to hear "cannot talk...how does the itch came aboard?" but at that way i knew, that will see him again, so ist was hard, but ok...

Did Javik ever mention anything about Thane? I know he said something about grunt and jack but I wonder if I missed anything. I also wonder how Javik would get along with him hmmmm.
But yeah they better never put someone other than Thane in Life support or my game disc will go flying out the window lol.


*edit ha Garrus is my bro and Mordin, well lets just say this game has been making me eat a lot of soy dream lately*

Modifié par Redrose2727, 29 mars 2012 - 08:45 .

[Redrose2727]

mayrabgood wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

hossa... i've missed a big discussion. oh man...
i guess i have to be awake longer at night, because it seemed like i really missed the funny things because i have to sleep xD
tomorrow is my last exam so i can be awake longer afterwards, yeah.
so i don't have to read 5 new pages every morning xD

ok, i find it great to get support from garrusmancer and so on just wonderfull how the fans stay together, because i love garrus, too (not so much as thane, but he's actually pretty cool too) and my best friend also is a garrusmancer from the bottom of her heart, but she can understand so well, how i feel, why i am disappointed. T_T that helped quite a lot.

someone in the life support? no way! never! just throw him out! javik. do your job (actually you're right, these two would have been nice to hear talking to each other)
but i was really confused about this too. first time i was, because liara stayed in miris room and i was thinking: wait? what about miranda? she won't come back? huuu....sad, it was fun arguing with her.
and mordins place has been destroyed T_T it hurts, just went through to come to the bridge and hearing this two women talking about anyting?
i would like to hear "cannot talk...how does the itch came aboard?" but at that way i knew, that will see him again, so ist was hard, but ok...

Did Javik ever mention anything about Thane? I know he said something about grunt and jack but I wonder if I missed anything. I also wonder how Javik would get along with him hmmmm.

But yeah they better never put someone other than Thane in Life support or my game disc will go flying out the window lol.

He mentions that he can sense that a sick drell used to be aboard the Normandy and Shepard responds by saying "Thane".

Thank you! I wonder how I missed that.

[mnomaha]

Pfft, I'm surprised bw didn't cut that too.

[utaker1988]

I let Garrus win it too. Least I could do for someone who has followed me into Hell on more than one occasion. I imagined that scenario with Shep and Thane. Oh yes I did. It was well....oh we need more Thane!!!!!

[mnomaha]

That was totally in my head cannon. FemShep (before she was BitterShep) on top of the presidium, bare ass nekkid and going for it. That would have been epic.

[jamesb71486]

Squeegee83 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

So you'd prefer to find some random, unheard of cure for a disease that is written into the genetics of Drell caused by the environment that they eventually caused themselves to live in in the first place?

While we're at it.. let's add in a cure for the Quarian immune system or make Tuchanka a cleaner, healthier place to live for the Krogans. It's basically what your asking for with a straight out cure for the Kepral's Syndrome for the Drell after all.

I could explain in detail why so many people ended up upset but it's obviously clear that you did not take the time out to read what the thread was about and some of the user's posts before responding. So I won't waste my time explaining it. However I will say this much, there is clearly two different opinions on the subject. Because if there weren't, this thread and many like it would not exist. I will keep fighting for Thane regardless what people like you say.

Why couldn't Thane survive? I mean, if you sit back and think the whole game through... it really isn't that silly. THE WHOLE DAMN THING IS FICTIONAL. Besides, who in the hell is this person to say that Thane dying should be the only outcome?

Anywhos, Troll #2 should be also ignored due to the fact that he/she did not take the time out to read about both sides of the issue and come up with an opinion showing that. I'm still waiting on the day when someone comes into this thread and says "Well I read and understand where you guys are coming... and based on that and my own opinion, this is what I think..." One thing I have learned in my lifetime, people don't read s***.

First off, calling people who disagree with you 'trolls' is hardly befitting of a just argument. Second off, no I didn't read the entire thread.. that would've been boring and frustrating.

Lastly, all I see are people who wanted a happily ever after. Thane died, you guys are upset.. I get that. You guys are even more upset that the romances in this game were handled like crap. Once Thane dies, there's never another mention of him, when he gets stabbed there's not a lot of emotion from FemShep. The whole thing was impersonal and treated like just another interaction, there wasn't even a 'depression' scene afterwards where Shepard goes off and gets drunk or has another 'dream'.

I don't think Bioware ever intended for Shepard to get her 'happily ever after' especially in terms of romance. Hell I had more interaction with Wrex with my femshep than I did with her romance option Kaidan who she was loyal to since ME1 and Wrex was only on the ship a few missions.

I just don't see how they could possibly give Thane a cure without making it painfully obvious that it was done simply to appease people. I'm not debating that his romance wasn't handled poorly, I am debating how a 'cure' could be possible without tearing apart everything Thane has said for the past two games.

Yes, I know that there are hanar working on a 'cure' for the disease but even Thane said that it was doubtful that his body would draw breath before they made a viable breakthrough. So yes, they could've sped it up but then you'd have people questioning the logic and making arguments on why the did it and raising stink about Bioware being inconsistent with their games.

As far as the Genophage working, it didn't work if you didn't have the data.. not completely.. Mordin made the same mistakes that Maelon did and it cost Eve her life if you lacked the data. Would that have been a better way for Thane to go out? Dying in the initial cure stages as opposed to going out a hero?

His romance was handled poorly as were 8/10ths of the romances in this game. You get your reunion and maybe a scene later but that's it.. even from a romance point of view I think it made a lot of sense the way Thane died with his last thoughts and prayers being for you. I agree with most of the points made.. my only argument is how they could make a 'cure' seem viable without tearing apart everything Thane said since ME2.

Modifié par jamesb71486, 29 mars 2012 - 08:53 .

[mnomaha]

@jamesb71486 ...Optional DLC. We know it's not likely to happen. What we want more than anything else is a fix to the rest of it. That would not be hard. Which is why we suggested you read the earlier posts.

Modifié par mnomaha, 29 mars 2012 - 08:56 .

[utaker1988]

Unfortunately what I had in my head would go into the short story territory and I swore to myself 10 years ago that I would not write that kind of stuff again. I did, I wrote lots of fanfic and some of it would make even the dirtiest of minds blush. If I started again, it would not be pretty, I'd be here all day wiping drool off my face and running for the shower.

[mnomaha]

utaker1988 wrote...

Unfortunately what I had in my head would go into the short story territory and I swore to myself 10 years ago that I would not write that kind of stuff again. I did, I wrote lots of fanfic and some of it would make even the dirtiest of minds blush. If I started again, it would not be pretty, I'd be here all day wiping drool off my face and running for the shower.

but...but...I like lemons. I really, really like lemons. Please make me some lemony goodness to wipe away the pain.

[Redrose2727]

mnomaha wrote...

Pfft, I'm surprised bw didn't cut that too.

I'll admit I loled a little bit. As for garrus, who wouldn't let that teddy bear win? I would feel so evil if I didn't ha! Anyway good night and thanks for everyone in this thread being so awesome. I might lurk less often now.