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[mnomaha]

@mayra...Yeah, they probably "forgot" it was there. LOL And I totally wanted to faceplant Garrus into the Memorial wall and show him Thane's name.

[Moira-chan]

Redrose2727 wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

hossa... i've missed a big discussion. oh man...
i guess i have to be awake longer at night, because it seemed like i really missed the funny things because i have to sleep xD
tomorrow is my last exam so i can be awake longer afterwards, yeah.
so i don't have to read 5 new pages every morning xD

ok, i find it great to get support from garrusmancer and so on just wonderfull how the fans stay together, because i love garrus, too (not so much as thane, but he's actually pretty cool too) and my best friend also is a garrusmancer from the bottom of her heart, but she can understand so well, how i feel, why i am disappointed. T_T that helped quite a lot.

someone in the life support? no way! never! just throw him out! javik. do your job (actually you're right, these two would have been nice to hear talking to each other)
but i was really confused about this too. first time i was, because liara stayed in miris room and i was thinking: wait? what about miranda? she won't come back? huuu....sad, it was fun arguing with her.
and mordins place has been destroyed T_T it hurts, just went through to come to the bridge and hearing this two women talking about anyting?
i would like to hear "cannot talk...how does the itch came aboard?" but at that way i knew, that will see him again, so ist was hard, but ok...

Did Javik ever mention anything about Thane? I know he said something about grunt and jack but I wonder if I missed anything. I also wonder how Javik would get along with him hmmmm.
But yeah they better never put someone other than Thane in Life support or my game disc will go flying out the window lol.


*edit ha Garrus is my bro and Mordin, well lets just say this game has been making me eat a lot of soy dream lately*

yes javik did. 2 times i think. when he shows his skills of feeling memories he talked about a drell in life support, which has been very ill, shepard nodded and just said: thane...
i don't know if he says something when you romanced thane, because he said something after my romance night with kaidan (of course another shepard than the one who was in love with thane, my shepard is faithfull)

garrus was my bro all the time, he is so funny and mordin was always "my shakespear burner" i loved his humour and in german his voice is even better than in english. i always went out giggling when i talkes towards him xD

Modifié par Moira-chan, 29 mars 2012 - 09:30 .

[utaker1988]

I just cried everytime I walked off the elevator. It was right there, in my face and after awhile I figured it was done in spite. I know it wasn't but after awhile you can tell yourself anything and believe it. Just like no matter where I was supposed to be going, I immediately stepped off the elevator and headed for Life Support. Old habits die hard. I'd be standing there crying and then think, "where was I supposed to be going?"

And speaking of old habits, I am going to try to write again. To go into that dark place in my mind where all the dirty imps live. I'll start small, like real small. But not as small as Thane's dialogue in ME3.

[Moira-chan]

but isn't it, that garrus say just something when you killed kai leng, after meeting him with tali, something like "so you finally killed kai leng? it's good to now, that thane find revenge" but that was the only thing i noticed


[Edit]
ok, no he doesn't just watch the scene again and he just mentioned kai leng and not more. thats freaky...

Modifié par Moira-chan, 29 mars 2012 - 09:34 .

[sunnie7699]

Moira-chan wrote...

Redrose2727 wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

hossa... i've missed a big discussion. oh man...
i guess i have to be awake longer at night, because it seemed like i really missed the funny things because i have to sleep xD
tomorrow is my last exam so i can be awake longer afterwards, yeah.
so i don't have to read 5 new pages every morning xD

ok, i find it great to get support from garrusmancer and so on just wonderfull how the fans stay together, because i love garrus, too (not so much as thane, but he's actually pretty cool too) and my best friend also is a garrusmancer from the bottom of her heart, but she can understand so well, how i feel, why i am disappointed. T_T that helped quite a lot.

someone in the life support? no way! never! just throw him out! javik. do your job (actually you're right, these two would have been nice to hear talking to each other)
but i was really confused about this too. first time i was, because liara stayed in miris room and i was thinking: wait? what about miranda? she won't come back? huuu....sad, it was fun arguing with her.
and mordins place has been destroyed T_T it hurts, just went through to come to the bridge and hearing this two women talking about anyting?
i would like to hear "cannot talk...how does the itch came aboard?" but at that way i knew, that will see him again, so ist was hard, but ok...

Did Javik ever mention anything about Thane? I know he said something about grunt and jack but I wonder if I missed anything. I also wonder how Javik would get along with him hmmmm.
But yeah they better never put someone other than Thane in Life support or my game disc will go flying out the window lol.


*edit ha Garrus is my bro and Mordin, well lets just say this game has been making me eat a lot of soy dream lately*

yes javik did. 2 times i think. when he shows his skills of feeling memories he talked about a drell in life support, which has been very ill, shepard nodded and just said: thane...
i don't know if he says something when you romanced thane, because he said something after my romance night with kaidan (of course another shepard than the one who was in love with thane, my shepard is faithfull)

garrus was my bro all the time, he is so funny and mordin was always "my shakespear burner" i loved his humour and in german his voice is even better than in english. i always went out giggling when i talkes towards him xD

You know I reckon Thane and Javik would have gotten on really well, seeing as Thane is a witty, no-bull**** kind of guy too. I can imagine Javik bashing all the other races, saying that protheans were superior, I can imagine them arguing/debating in a civil manner, and Javik actually enjoying himself But I guess we'll probably never see this..

[sunnie7699]

jamesb71486 wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

So you'd prefer to find some random, unheard of cure for a disease that is written into the genetics of Drell caused by the environment that they eventually caused themselves to live in in the first place?

While we're at it.. let's add in a cure for the Quarian immune system or make Tuchanka a cleaner, healthier place to live for the Krogans. It's basically what your asking for with a straight out cure for the Kepral's Syndrome for the Drell after all.

I could explain in detail why so many people ended up upset but it's obviously clear that you did not take the time out to read what the thread was about and some of the user's posts before responding. So I won't waste my time explaining it. However I will say this much, there is clearly two different opinions on the subject. Because if there weren't, this thread and many like it would not exist. I will keep fighting for Thane regardless what people like you say.

Why couldn't Thane survive? I mean, if you sit back and think the whole game through... it really isn't that silly. THE WHOLE DAMN THING IS FICTIONAL. Besides, who in the hell is this person to say that Thane dying should be the only outcome?

Anywhos, Troll #2 should be also ignored due to the fact that he/she did not take the time out to read about both sides of the issue and come up with an opinion showing that. I'm still waiting on the day when someone comes into this thread and says "Well I read and understand where you guys are coming... and based on that and my own opinion, this is what I think..." One thing I have learned in my lifetime, people don't read s***.

First off, calling people who disagree with you 'trolls' is hardly befitting of a just argument. Second off, no I didn't read the entire thread.. that would've been boring and frustrating.

Lastly, all I see are people who wanted a happily ever after. Thane died, you guys are upset.. I get that. You guys are even more upset that the romances in this game were handled like crap. Once Thane dies, there's never another mention of him, when he gets stabbed there's not a lot of emotion from FemShep. The whole thing was impersonal and treated like just another interaction, there wasn't even a 'depression' scene afterwards where Shepard goes off and gets drunk or has another 'dream'.

I don't think Bioware ever intended for Shepard to get her 'happily ever after' especially in terms of romance. Hell I had more interaction with Wrex with my femshep than I did with her romance option Kaidan who she was loyal to since ME1 and Wrex was only on the ship a few missions.

I just don't see how they could possibly give Thane a cure without making it painfully obvious that it was done simply to appease people. I'm not debating that his romance wasn't handled poorly, I am debating how a 'cure' could be possible without tearing apart everything Thane has said for the past two games.

Yes, I know that there are hanar working on a 'cure' for the disease but even Thane said that it was doubtful that his body would draw breath before they made a viable breakthrough. So yes, they could've sped it up but then you'd have people questioning the logic and making arguments on why the did it and raising stink about Bioware being inconsistent with their games.

As far as the Genophage working, it didn't work if you didn't have the data.. not completely.. Mordin made the same mistakes that Maelon did and it cost Eve her life if you lacked the data. Would that have been a better way for Thane to go out? Dying in the initial cure stages as opposed to going out a hero?

His romance was handled poorly as were 8/10ths of the romances in this game. You get your reunion and maybe a scene later but that's it.. even from a romance point of view I think it made a lot of sense the way Thane died with his last thoughts and prayers being for you. I agree with most of the points made.. my only argument is how they could make a 'cure' seem viable without tearing apart everything Thane said since ME2.

I see where you're coming from with the cure, but I still think some sort of treatment breakthrough just to extend his life and allow him to fight again for sometime wouldn't have been too much to ask, at least as a compromise to satisfy those who romanced him. And like i said before, it could have only been romanced femshep who would have been able to convince him to get the treatment.

[Moira-chan]

yeah i guess the discussions between them would have been so interessting. even javik changed in the whole game, at the end he accepted the new species.
i would like to hear them, both, talking about everythign and anything... it would be some kind of different to garrus/vegas "who is stronger" conversations (which i also enjoyed hearing )

[Moira-chan]

sunnie7699 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

So you'd prefer to find some random, unheard of cure for a disease that is written into the genetics of Drell caused by the environment that they eventually caused themselves to live in in the first place?

While we're at it.. let's add in a cure for the Quarian immune system or make Tuchanka a cleaner, healthier place to live for the Krogans. It's basically what your asking for with a straight out cure for the Kepral's Syndrome for the Drell after all.

I could explain in detail why so many people ended up upset but it's obviously clear that you did not take the time out to read what the thread was about and some of the user's posts before responding. So I won't waste my time explaining it. However I will say this much, there is clearly two different opinions on the subject. Because if there weren't, this thread and many like it would not exist. I will keep fighting for Thane regardless what people like you say.

Why couldn't Thane survive? I mean, if you sit back and think the whole game through... it really isn't that silly. THE WHOLE DAMN THING IS FICTIONAL. Besides, who in the hell is this person to say that Thane dying should be the only outcome?

Anywhos, Troll #2 should be also ignored due to the fact that he/she did not take the time out to read about both sides of the issue and come up with an opinion showing that. I'm still waiting on the day when someone comes into this thread and says "Well I read and understand where you guys are coming... and based on that and my own opinion, this is what I think..." One thing I have learned in my lifetime, people don't read s***.

First off, calling people who disagree with you 'trolls' is hardly befitting of a just argument. Second off, no I didn't read the entire thread.. that would've been boring and frustrating.

Lastly, all I see are people who wanted a happily ever after. Thane died, you guys are upset.. I get that. You guys are even more upset that the romances in this game were handled like crap. Once Thane dies, there's never another mention of him, when he gets stabbed there's not a lot of emotion from FemShep. The whole thing was impersonal and treated like just another interaction, there wasn't even a 'depression' scene afterwards where Shepard goes off and gets drunk or has another 'dream'.

I don't think Bioware ever intended for Shepard to get her 'happily ever after' especially in terms of romance. Hell I had more interaction with Wrex with my femshep than I did with her romance option Kaidan who she was loyal to since ME1 and Wrex was only on the ship a few missions.

I just don't see how they could possibly give Thane a cure without making it painfully obvious that it was done simply to appease people. I'm not debating that his romance wasn't handled poorly, I am debating how a 'cure' could be possible without tearing apart everything Thane has said for the past two games.

Yes, I know that there are hanar working on a 'cure' for the disease but even Thane said that it was doubtful that his body would draw breath before they made a viable breakthrough. So yes, they could've sped it up but then you'd have people questioning the logic and making arguments on why the did it and raising stink about Bioware being inconsistent with their games.

As far as the Genophage working, it didn't work if you didn't have the data.. not completely.. Mordin made the same mistakes that Maelon did and it cost Eve her life if you lacked the data. Would that have been a better way for Thane to go out? Dying in the initial cure stages as opposed to going out a hero?

His romance was handled poorly as were 8/10ths of the romances in this game. You get your reunion and maybe a scene later but that's it.. even from a romance point of view I think it made a lot of sense the way Thane died with his last thoughts and prayers being for you. I agree with most of the points made.. my only argument is how they could make a 'cure' seem viable without tearing apart everything Thane said since ME2.

I see where you're coming from with the cure, but I still think some sort of treatment breakthrough just to extend his life and allow him to fight again for sometime wouldn't have been too much to ask, at least as a compromise to satisfy those who romanced him. And like i said before, it could have only been romanced femshep who would have been able to convince him to get the treatment.

i also understand, that not all want a cure, i can also deal with it, that he died, but i was always for a cure. especially bioware gave us some kind of "backdoors" like transplantations. well, thane will never accept one, but i would like to speak to him about it, yelling, begging that he please do it, just for longer time, so that he can survive until hanar find one.
if other gamers don't want to, i'm ok with it, but there should be a choice. Every player should get the chance to decide what is unlogical for him
(also like with the happy ending, where everyone survided, i know, that the chances are low, but i know, that my shepard could had handle it)

Modifié par Moira-chan, 29 mars 2012 - 10:05 .

[Dunizel]

jamesb71486 wrote...

Lastly, all I see are people who wanted a happily ever after. Thane died, you guys are upset.. I get that. You guys are even more upset that the romances in this game were handled like crap. Once Thane dies, there's never another mention of him, when he gets stabbed there's not a lot of emotion from FemShep. The whole thing was impersonal and treated like just another interaction, there wasn't even a 'depression' scene afterwards where Shepard goes off and gets drunk or has another 'dream'.

Exactly this and only this as far as I am concerned.
I'm one of those that didn't really fight for a cure, I like sweetly tragic things in a sense. But, just like the debate on the endings, to have a possibility for those who might want it. But I still can understand if a cure wasn't possible, that's not my issue at all.

And really, if you don't consider theories, the endings have their fair share of space-macix involved. A cure that could at least, with time, make him feel better, wasn't so  hard to believe. And I might even add that maybe you could save him only If you took certain actions and dialogues at the coup attempt.. Like, "stay/make someone stay with Thane" so you could offer help and maybe avoid some blood loss.

[jamesb71486]

Hell, I wish there was a way for a 'happy ending' in general.. save Legion, Mordin, Thane.. bring them all on board the Normandy.. defeat the reapers, retire to some sunny planet with your lover... this game seems designed to make people a lot of people unhappy it seems..

[Moira-chan]

jamesb71486 wrote...

Hell, I wish there was a way for a 'happy ending' in general.. save Legion, Mordin, Thane.. bring them all on board the Normandy.. defeat the reapers, retire to some sunny planet with your lover... this game seems designed to make people a lot of people unhappy it seems..

yepp, after bioware promised "a felt thousand different ends" i accept everything. peace between reaper and shepard, shepard become king of the universe, saving everyone, no one and so on...

i would like to save these 3 T_T i loved them, they were 3 from 4 fav charas. T_T just garrus was left...i really missed my sniper and my technical burner...

[Moira-chan]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...
I could explain in detail....

jamesb71486 wrote..
First off, calling people who disagree with you 'trolls....

Actually, I wasn’t calling people who disagree with me trolls. I was calling people who didn’t take the time out to form an opinion based on both sides of the issues, trolls. There is clearly a difference. I didn’t say to read the entire thread. I, myself wouldn’t do that at all. However I would have read a few posts and get an idea before running my mouth.

Well now apparently I am going to have to get into it.

Yes you stand corrected that there was a hint of the Hanar forming a cure and there was also a hint that Thane was eligible for a lung transplant (in the shadow broker level). Bioware themselves even ran a “Cure for Thane” promotion on facebook. There was so much hope that Thane could be cured/prolonged that people went in thinking there was going to be an option to save him at least.

Now there is a big problem with this. There is many, like myself who have experienced lost/illness in their lives. If you take the time out to ask the users in this thread if they carry such experience, you’ll probably be surprise on how many say “yes”.  Hell, you can even see my own post on the third or fourth page of this very thread about this topic. Many connected with Thane because of this reason.

So take the moment out and think to yourself, if you were someone like this and you went into the game with hope to only get a slaughtered romance and gut wrenching death scene. How would you feel? Personally, I thought the whole thing was just cruel.

Now you can argue with me that it’s just a game, it’s fictional. Yeah I agree, but I can argue back since it was just a game that there is no reason why Bioware couldn’t give an option. Mass Effect is based on options and not all of us believed that Thane was defined by his illness.

Thane was an Assassin, Father, Drell, etc. In matter of fact, if you romanced him in the end of ME2… Thane, himself (written by Bioware) made it clear that he was no longer defined by his illness. He wanted to live for Shepard and his son.

Now if that isn’t a big flashing red sign suggesting that this was the whole point of his romance… “Save Thane so he can live on and put an end to his tragic character”.

For someone who did not romance him, they would just see him as a dying man.  But for those who romanced him… we all were left with a big wth expression on our faces.

Writing a cure/prolonging Thane into the game isn’t impossible. Think back to the Genophage. In the first game it went as “Well, the Krogan is screwed”, in the second game “Oh look, we can cure it” and in the third game “Go cure it… because now you can.” I have read many books and played many games that started off in one direction and ended up in a different direction. It’s completely possible to cure/prolong Thane simply because they have already mentioned how to in ME2.

Anyways to conclude what I am been trying to say, there should have been an option. An option would have please both parties. Maybe that option should have only be given to those who romanced him. For us, who gotten to know Thane beyond his illness… curing/prolonging him would make complete sense.

oh squeegee you don't know how i wish there is a "like" button here too, that was totally what i thought ^-^ thanks to point out, what we all feel

[stysiaq]

daily post to bump the thread.

Most simple idea to prolong Thane's life? Keep the existing material as it is.

After Citadel coup (where Thane still gets stabbed) IF some prerequisitions are satisfied (loyalty, romance*) Thane gets to live, and he gets lungs transplant. Then, for even more win, he gets a re-match with Kai Leng** and this time he pawns his generic cyber ninja ass.

* because of romance Thane has enough will to live to go through the surgery

** possibilities: additional squaddie, temporary squaddie, or even an extra level where you play as Thane (playable Drell model already exists and looks like Thane). For more lulz Shep actually HIRES Thane to kill Kai. Give Thane cutscene power to the max, for Grunts satisfaction level.

Who's with me?

[stysiaq]

I tweeted them 'bout it. I think my idea could be implemented without much pain, and it (of course) allows you to get that paramour achievement with Thane.

[Moira-chan]

stysiaq wrote...

daily post to bump the thread.

Most simple idea to prolong Thane's life? Keep the existing material as it is.

After Citadel coup (where Thane still gets stabbed) IF some prerequisitions are satisfied (loyalty, romance*) Thane gets to live, and he gets lungs transplant. Then, for even more win, he gets a re-match with Kai Leng** and this time he pawns his generic cyber ninja ass.

* because of romance Thane has enough will to live to go through the surgery

** possibilities: additional squaddie, temporary squaddie, or even an extra level where you play as Thane (playable Drell model already exists and looks like Thane). For more lulz Shep actually HIRES Thane to kill Kai. Give Thane cutscene power to the max, for Grunts satisfaction level.

Who's with me?

me too, thats sounds soo great *_*

i loved to play as joker in me2, to be thane would be interessting experience ^-^

[Moira-chan]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...
I could explain in detail....

jamesb71486 wrote..
First off, calling people who disagree with you 'trolls....

Actually, I wasn’t calling people who disagree with me trolls. I was calling people who didn’t take the time out to form an opinion based on both sides of the issues, trolls. There is clearly a difference. I didn’t say to read the entire thread. I, myself wouldn’t do that at all. However I would have read a few posts and get an idea before running my mouth.

Well now apparently I am going to have to get into it.

Yes you stand corrected that there was a hint of the Hanar forming a cure and there was also a hint that Thane was eligible for a lung transplant (in the shadow broker level). Bioware themselves even ran a “Cure for Thane” promotion on facebook. There was so much hope that Thane could be cured/prolonged that people went in thinking there was going to be an option to save him at least.

Now there is a big problem with this. There is many, like myself who have experienced lost/illness in their lives. If you take the time out to ask the users in this thread if they carry such experience, you’ll probably be surprise on how many say “yes”.  Hell, you can even see my own post on the third or fourth page of this very thread about this topic. Many connected with Thane because of this reason.

So take the moment out and think to yourself, if you were someone like this and you went into the game with hope to only get a slaughtered romance and gut wrenching death scene. How would you feel? Personally, I thought the whole thing was just cruel.

Now you can argue with me that it’s just a game, it’s fictional. Yeah I agree, but I can argue back since it was just a game that there is no reason why Bioware couldn’t give an option. Mass Effect is based on options and not all of us believed that Thane was defined by his illness.

Thane was an Assassin, Father, Drell, etc. In matter of fact, if you romanced him in the end of ME2… Thane, himself (written by Bioware) made it clear that he was no longer defined by his illness. He wanted to live for Shepard and his son.

Now if that isn’t a big flashing red sign suggesting that this was the whole point of his romance… “Save Thane so he can live on and put an end to his tragic character”.

For someone who did not romance him, they would just see him as a dying man.  But for those who romanced him… we all were left with a big wth expression on our faces.

Writing a cure/prolonging Thane into the game isn’t impossible. Think back to the Genophage. In the first game it went as “Well, the Krogan is screwed”, in the second game “Oh look, we can cure it” and in the third game “Go cure it… because now you can.” I have read many books and played many games that started off in one direction and ended up in a different direction. It’s completely possible to cure/prolong Thane simply because they have already mentioned how to in ME2.

Anyways to conclude what I am been trying to say, there should have been an option. An option would have please both parties. Maybe that option should have only be given to those who romanced him. For us, who gotten to know Thane beyond his illness… curing/prolonging him would make complete sense.

oh squeegee you don't know how i wish there is a "like" button here too, that was totally what i thought ^-^ thanks to point out, what we all feel

no problem at all too bad this isn't facebook, we all got use to the "like" button. lol

we really are xD don't know how much i supposed to push the button and noticed: oh well it's bsn, not fb xD so i have to write how much i like the post

[PsyrenY]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

Why are you posting on the main Thane thread and this one if you think he's a loser?

People were squeeing over the Thane poetry thing so I posted a way they could record it. I'm being helpful.

And I spoke poorly, I don't think Thane is a loser. But I do think he's a really bad choice for a romance. Are you going to share him with his wife when you all end up across the sea together? What if that's not HER idea of a happy afterlife?

[Moira-chan]

Optimystic_X wrote...

disc0nnect7 wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

I agree that Femshep should have had better romances, but seriously? Thane and Jacob? The guy whose wife is waiting for him across the sea and the guy that secretly wanted Miranda instead of you? (Or I guess anybody in a Cerberus uniform will do it for him, really.)

I think you guys should channel your energy somewhere more productive, like Vega romance DLC. Hell, Javik would be a better choice than these two losers.

Why are you posting on the main Thane thread and this one if you think he's a loser?

People were squeeing over the Thane poetry thing so I posted a way they could record it. I'm being helpful.

And I spoke poorly, I don't think Thane is a loser. But I do think he's a really bad choice for a romance. Are you going to share him with his wife when you all end up across the sea together? What if that's not HER idea of a happy afterlife?

oh really, if you don't like him, than stay off. you don't have to support us. it is our opinion and if you romanced him, you will notice, that he's not so simple as you tell it.
no one is forcing you to like him, but let us be, as we are. we love him for everything and do not say anything against vega, miranda or anyone else.
just ingore it if you don't like it and acutally nothing gave the allowness to judge thane. i did not judge anyone of the crew either. every member is a preciouse character with their special, own meaning. EVERY ONE!

[Hisilome]

Hainkpe wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

daily post to bump the thread.

Most simple idea to prolong Thane's life? Keep the existing material as it is.

After Citadel coup (where Thane still gets stabbed) IF some prerequisitions are satisfied (loyalty, romance*) Thane gets to live, and he gets lungs transplant. Then, for even more win, he gets a re-match with Kai Leng** and this time he pawns his generic cyber ninja ass.

* because of romance Thane has enough will to live to go through the surgery

** possibilities: additional squaddie, temporary squaddie, or even an extra level where you play as Thane (playable Drell model already exists and looks like Thane). For more lulz Shep actually HIRES Thane to kill Kai. Give Thane cutscene power to the max, for Grunts satisfaction level.

Who's with me?

I like how you think.  You got my vote!

You got my vote too! Very nice thinking!

[Cosmochyck]

Optimystic_X wrote...

 *snips*

People were squeeing over the Thane poetry thing so I posted a way they could record it. I'm being helpful.

And I spoke poorly, I don't think Thane is a loser. But I do think he's a really bad choice for a romance. Are you going to share him with his wife when you all end up across the sea together? What if that's not HER idea of a happy afterlife?

Why is he a bad choice?  Because he's already been married?  That happens in REAL life all the time.  And yes, he is dying.  But that still doesn't make him a bad choice because he tells you they are working on a cure, and you find out he's a candidate for a lung transplant.  Both viable options.  If he loves Shep, then he's probably more likely to want to fight to stay alive - awakened from "battle sleep" and all.  Again, like someone in real life might be. 

They also put incredible effort into creating him, so it seems a shame that they wasted all that development in ME3 to just toss him aside. 

And for all those that have posted other possibilities for Thane's story - they are all great!  Hope BW is listening!

[Julia_xo]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

So...either you haven't played the game or your Quarians and Geth didn't get along...

No, my Quarians and Geths got along.. but there is no cure for the Quarian Immune system save for time.. the cure for the Kepral's syndrome? also time as Hanar Scientists are working on a genetic adaption for it but that would likely only effect drell children not those already afflicted with the disease.. especially not an advanced end-stage case such as Thane's..

wildannie wrote...
while we're at it lets cure the genophage, and death.... oh wait.

He could have had a lung transplant before the encounter with Leng and been able to survive the wound

Except in Thane's case it had probably spread beyond just his lungs.. he was in the end stages of it so it would've most likely required more than a simple lung transplant for him to be saved.. if it was that easy then the blood transfusion from Kolyat would've kept him alive for a bit longer too..

As far as the Genophage, that was a bio-engineered plague.. meaning that the cure could be reverse engineered by a smart enough individual (Mordin/Maelon) but it would take time to do so.

Mordin stated that even with Maelon's data they were still possibly years away from curing the genophage. He was able to do it in what, six months? Shepard died and was brought back-the damage due to vacuum exposure would seem irreversible, more so than any damage that Keprals would do to Thane's body. Yet bw made it possible for Shep to be brought back.

Bioware dropped hints about possibly writing a cure for Thane-medigel for the lungs, Thane being a viable transplant candidate, the Hanar working on a cure, the "Cure Thane Krios" movement that they wholeheartedly supported.

It didn't have to be impossible to save Thane, Bioware just chose not give the option to do so. It's their game, they've done crazier things than curing a sick drell.

Tell me about it. Shepard died and was clinically braindead but her brain was kept ~intact~ by a helmet allowing Cerberus scientists to somehow resurrect him/her. The cure for the Genophage was supposedly "years away" but 6 months later Mordin whips one up. So much dumb stuff happens in the game. The Geth taking over environmental controls inside some of the Quarian's suits will somehow speed the process of environmental
adaptation?  How quaint.

Or the fact that in one of the endings Shep can give her/his essence to ~magically~ turn everyone into synthetic/organic hybrids.

Don't you dare suggest a treatment for Kepral's syndrome though because THAT would be taking things too far!

Give me a break. Why is Thane the exception to all the space magic at work in this game?

I'd be fine with the lung transplant which LoTSB presents as an option for him. If BW release a DLC to fix this, one way they could do it is to have Thane undergo the lung transplant while Shepard is locked up on Earth (depending on if he is romanced/loyal, maybe). That way when Shep meets him at the hospital he will be recovering, not dying. If necessary, the fight with Kai Leng could still happen except Thane would be healthy enough to survive the stab wound. Or maybe he could even successfully fight Leng off and send him running.

Thane never needed to die. This is fiction and everything is subject to the whim of the writers. They chose the easy way out for themselves. It's easier to kill a character off than to keep them alive and put work into creating content for them.

What gets to me the most is that they forced Thane's death but didn't even bother making the scene different for players who romanced him. It's the same for everyone. Miranda's death is optional and had more emotion than Thane's forced death. How come M!Shep/Miranda can say they love each other and get a final kiss but F!Shep/Thane get nothing at all? Shepard's lack of emotion and concern for Thane was infuriating to me.

Modifié par Julia_xo, 29 mars 2012 - 01:56 .

[cogsandcurls]

Julia_xo wrote...

I'd be fine with the lung transplant which LoTSB presents as an option for him. If BW release a DLC to fix this, one way they could do it is to have Thane undergo the lung transplant while Shepard is locked up on Earth (depending on if he is romanced/loyal, maybe). That way when Shep meets him at the hospital he will be recovering, not dying. If necessary, the fight with Kai Leng could still happen except Thane would be healthy enough to survive the stab wound. Or maybe he could even successfully fight Leng off and send him running.

Thane never needed to die. This is fiction and everything is subject to the whim of the writers. They chose the easy way out for themselves. It's easier to kill a character off than to keep them alive and put work into creating content for them.

What gets to me the most is that they forced Thane's death but didn't even bother making the scene different for players who romanced him. It's the same for everyone. Miranda's death is optional and had more emotion than Thane's forced death. How come M!Shep/Miranda can say they love each other and get a final kiss but F!Shep/Thane get nothing at all? Shepard's lack of emotion and concern for Thane was infuriating to me.

Quoting for truth, and because I really like your DLC proposal. That's one of the things that really got me: Thane says that Shepard managed to drag him out of his self-imposed isolation and that it's basically the best thing she could have done for him. Chakwas's report on him in Shadow Broker says that it's best for him to keep having a decent amount of interpersonal contact so he can get the mental and emotional stimulation he needs to stay on top of things.

Then you start ME3 and he's back to having sat through six more months of isolation? In a hospital no less? It was horrible. At least the lung transplant option would be a good excuse for this.

Also yes, Thane's death scene (if you can forgive Shep's emotional detatchment/ the complete lack of physical contact, and that's quite a lot to forgive) was pretty powerful for me....until I watched the non-romanced version and realised that really, the Sheps who loved Thane got nothing special at all.