I personally didn't like the ending because all the species still got screwed. I was okay with me or my crew dying, but In my eyes the reapers sorta won.
Think of all the people that are now stuck and scattered all over the galaxy. It will be hundreds or thousands of years before they can truly "Rebuild". I hated that the "Destroy" Ending killed all technology and not just synthetic life only.
Why exactly didn't you like the ending?
Débuté par
Madcat 124
, mars 10 2012 08:55
#1
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 08:55
#3
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 08:56
I didn't like the ending cause it pretty much made all the decisions I made all the way back to ME1 pointless. It was just depressing as all hell.
#4
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 08:57
Normandy crash and my crew stuck and left for dead on some jungle planet.
#5
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 08:58
Because no matter your choices you made in the all the games, it comes down to one choice, with almost identical consequences. And all the plot holes.
#6
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 08:58
I don't like that Shepard is dead, I don't like that half of my crew is dead. I don't like that there is no explanation of what will happen after. I don't like that there is no real choice. I don't like this kid. I don't like the idea that all my efforts led to nothing. Well, I suppose that's all. I just want a happy ending, like in DAO.
#7
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:00
Plot holes. Lack of closure. Lack of choice. Lack of consequences.
#8
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:00
There are a lot of threads, but I will add my opinion here one last time.
I like the endings.
What I don't like is the scene with the Normandy. It's either unexplained or completely illogical, especially with my squad being teleported up there.
That just doesn't make sense.
I like the endings.
What I don't like is the scene with the Normandy. It's either unexplained or completely illogical, especially with my squad being teleported up there.
That just doesn't make sense.
#9
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:01
this and the fact that no matter what you do you die or ar stranded I dont mind that but I see even the best ending as a fail and I wish they ended the trilogy on a high like they did with the other two. but no we get this dark dipressing crap for a ending.
#10
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:04
Reasons I didn't like the ending:
-Everything was wrapped up too fast / felt rushed
-Shepard has to die (most commonly)
-Normandy + crew stranded on some random planet
-Members with you on the final mission appear on said random planet
-Even if Shepard dies, there is no closure -- I'd at least like to see her buried/mourned/honored for her sacrifice, but no. It just ends abruptly.
Shepard was always about hope and making it through to the end, so to see her die without ever getting any shred of happiness for herself is, well... depressing.
It just felt bad... there was so much epic build-up over 3 games, and then it just.... dies.
I didn't even feel awesome in the last 20 minutes, I felt horrible. like, why did i beat it? oh god... why did i do something wrong to get this awful ending?
there was no final boss or anything, just a choice of how to die. a very lame, rushed, vague ending to an epicly built-up series.
disappointing... =/
-Everything was wrapped up too fast / felt rushed
-Shepard has to die (most commonly)
-Normandy + crew stranded on some random planet
-Members with you on the final mission appear on said random planet
-Even if Shepard dies, there is no closure -- I'd at least like to see her buried/mourned/honored for her sacrifice, but no. It just ends abruptly.
Shepard was always about hope and making it through to the end, so to see her die without ever getting any shred of happiness for herself is, well... depressing.
It just felt bad... there was so much epic build-up over 3 games, and then it just.... dies.
I didn't even feel awesome in the last 20 minutes, I felt horrible. like, why did i beat it? oh god... why did i do something wrong to get this awful ending?
there was no final boss or anything, just a choice of how to die. a very lame, rushed, vague ending to an epicly built-up series.
disappointing... =/
#11
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:06
What really gets me about the ending isn't that they're all, in some way or another, sad. I don't need a happy ending. It's more than that, though. They're bad enough to make assimilation by the Reapers seem tempting. I mean, the middle ending, did they really consider the consequences of that? Billions are going to die because they're cut off. It could mean no one is ever going to visit a different cluster of stars again, because the technology is gone, and there's a very good chance those pockets that now remain are going to destroy themselves before ever rediscovering the technology.
The Renegade ending is a non-starter, because it doesn't solve the underlying problems.
The Paragon ending is more complicated, because at least it doesn't doom galactic civilization. Not immediately, anyway. If it were just a bitter-sweet ending where Shepard has to sacrifice himself, that might have worked, maybe. But it's predictable, it's sloppy, it's unsatisfying. I don't mind Shepard not surviving,
The Renegade ending is a non-starter, because it doesn't solve the underlying problems.
The Paragon ending is more complicated, because at least it doesn't doom galactic civilization. Not immediately, anyway. If it were just a bitter-sweet ending where Shepard has to sacrifice himself, that might have worked, maybe. But it's predictable, it's sloppy, it's unsatisfying. I don't mind Shepard not surviving,
#12
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:07
Destruction of galactic society after you spent so much effort bringing it together. I could have delt with shepard and some of the crew sacrificing themselves on earth, but the destruction of society did it for me.
#13
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:08
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The ending 10 minutes is entirely divorced from all the consequences of the choices made throughout the trilogy. No matter what choices you made, you get the same ending. I personally wanted a large variety of permutations, cinematics and epilogues to reflect the consequences of my many choices throughout the trilogy.
Modifié par scyphozoa, 10 mars 2012 - 09:08 .
#14
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:08
It felt contrived and out of nowhere, bringing in a theme that had until now been minor in ME.
It was filled with plot holes big enough to drive the Normandy through (and then have it crash).
It was unnecessarily grim and dark, both on a personal and galactic level.
It didn't reflect our past choices in any way, instead giving us nothing more than three lights to choose from.
It gave absolutely no closure on anything.
It was filled with plot holes big enough to drive the Normandy through (and then have it crash).
It was unnecessarily grim and dark, both on a personal and galactic level.
It didn't reflect our past choices in any way, instead giving us nothing more than three lights to choose from.
It gave absolutely no closure on anything.
#15
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:13
Sorayai wrote...
there was no final boss or anything, just a choice of how to die. a very lame, rushed, vague ending to an epicly built-up series.
WHAT.
Modifié par Zhuinden, 10 mars 2012 - 09:13 .
#16
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:14
Everything. All of your choices boil down to three choices, and those are basically the same thing.
I might not be understanding the lore, but I'm usually okay with understanding the lore, but I feel like if you choice any one of them, you're dooming every one, FTL travel takes fuel, and most of the fuel depots were destroyed by the reapers, plus, I don't think there is one in the Sol system, due to the fact that most home worlds, colonies, ect. were destroyed by the Reapers, and most refugees were on the Citadel, I don't see how food supplies are going to last with the Mass Relays destroyed, especially for Turians and Quarians.
So, in the end, you might have killed the Reapers (which, even though Mr.Starkid said you were part synthetic, and that this would kill all synthetic life, you apparently don't die in, huh.), or controlled them ( and killed Shepard), or merged with them (and, from what I've heard, killed Shepard.), which is very odd, all things considered. But everyone's doomed anyway, so, yeah, and don't forget that this happens even if you do everything in you power to stop it.
I might not be understanding the lore, but I'm usually okay with understanding the lore, but I feel like if you choice any one of them, you're dooming every one, FTL travel takes fuel, and most of the fuel depots were destroyed by the reapers, plus, I don't think there is one in the Sol system, due to the fact that most home worlds, colonies, ect. were destroyed by the Reapers, and most refugees were on the Citadel, I don't see how food supplies are going to last with the Mass Relays destroyed, especially for Turians and Quarians.
So, in the end, you might have killed the Reapers (which, even though Mr.Starkid said you were part synthetic, and that this would kill all synthetic life, you apparently don't die in, huh.), or controlled them ( and killed Shepard), or merged with them (and, from what I've heard, killed Shepard.), which is very odd, all things considered. But everyone's doomed anyway, so, yeah, and don't forget that this happens even if you do everything in you power to stop it.
Modifié par x0 Misfit 0x, 10 mars 2012 - 09:17 .
#17
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:17
Zhuinden wrote...
Sorayai wrote...
there was no final boss or anything, just a choice of how to die. a very lame, rushed, vague ending to an epicly built-up series.
WHAT.
There wasn't unless you count Harbinger shooting you in the face while you're scurrying to the Conduit.
In any case, I keep saying the same damn thing over and over. They used deus ex machina to wrap up the story. It was pulled out of someon'e rear last minute and made no sense at all.
#18
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:17
ME3 ending messed that game big time. I mean, it's not only sad, unsatisfying and unrewarding. It's plainly stupid. What the hell happend to Normandy? How come, Liara was on board (when I took her with me for final mission? ). Seriously where the hell are they now? If they jumped to other system and relays are gone, even if Shep survived they wont be able to meet in his lifetime.
And why the hell Joker run away like a little b****, when Normandy, the most advanced Alliance ship was to lead Sword forces above Earth? I mean it would be much better if in the end they landed in the heart of London, where the beam was instead of some frickin random planet.
Also, to get Perfect Ending where Shep actually lives, my Paragon commander (who destroyed Collectors Base) had to sacrifice Geth - Geth that were the victims in the war with Quarians and yet Geth that decided to work with their creators and fight together in the joined army.
GG Bioware. That was realy inspiring.
And why the hell Joker run away like a little b****, when Normandy, the most advanced Alliance ship was to lead Sword forces above Earth? I mean it would be much better if in the end they landed in the heart of London, where the beam was instead of some frickin random planet.
Also, to get Perfect Ending where Shep actually lives, my Paragon commander (who destroyed Collectors Base) had to sacrifice Geth - Geth that were the victims in the war with Quarians and yet Geth that decided to work with their creators and fight together in the joined army.
GG Bioware. That was realy inspiring.
Modifié par Livein, 10 mars 2012 - 09:18 .
#19
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:18
damn, I made a thread just like this, the fourm is too active to see the topics with out doing a massive search to tell what is happening.
#20
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:19
There were many unanswered questions:
What happened to my crew? I only saw 3 team members leave the ship: Jpker, EDI, and Liara. Where is everyone else? I went into the final battle at 100% readiness, but there are no details of the whereabouts of anyone of them.
I get that Shepard may have had to die, but what about life directly after him. My love interest this time around was Liara. Did her and Shepard have a little "Asuman" baby?
What about my team that went into the final battle with me? At least on the second game, you knew who died at the end.
I know that things like "The effects of the Genophage cure, the fate of the other races (if this is right, all of the different species are stuck in the SOL Relay), and even the Rachni can be told in additional ME stories, but these endings fast forward things waaaay into the future after the "Heroes" are nothing but stories told around a camp fire.
I loved the ME saga so much that I've played both ME1 and ME2 6x each, but after this lack of detail in the endings, it makes me not want to play this installment with the same passion as I have so willingly had for the past 2 games.
I felt like I was watching an awesome movie that TOTALLy fell apart due to the ending...C'mon bioware...where's the love for your true fans?
Anyone knew to the story could live with this...not ME Veterans.
What happened to my crew? I only saw 3 team members leave the ship: Jpker, EDI, and Liara. Where is everyone else? I went into the final battle at 100% readiness, but there are no details of the whereabouts of anyone of them.
I get that Shepard may have had to die, but what about life directly after him. My love interest this time around was Liara. Did her and Shepard have a little "Asuman" baby?
What about my team that went into the final battle with me? At least on the second game, you knew who died at the end.
I know that things like "The effects of the Genophage cure, the fate of the other races (if this is right, all of the different species are stuck in the SOL Relay), and even the Rachni can be told in additional ME stories, but these endings fast forward things waaaay into the future after the "Heroes" are nothing but stories told around a camp fire.
I loved the ME saga so much that I've played both ME1 and ME2 6x each, but after this lack of detail in the endings, it makes me not want to play this installment with the same passion as I have so willingly had for the past 2 games.
I felt like I was watching an awesome movie that TOTALLy fell apart due to the ending...C'mon bioware...where's the love for your true fans?
Anyone knew to the story could live with this...not ME Veterans.
#21
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:20
I want my unicorns and butterflies ending, please, why is it all poo????
#22
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:20
There's nothing wrong with the ending, except that it should had been one of many completely different outcomes to the story.
#23
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:21
1) No closure
2) No variety
3) All previous decisions rendered pointless
4) Deus/Diabolus Ex Machina embodied in the Catalyst
5) The universe is broken by the destruction of the Relay Network
6) Broke from all the established major themes in order the emphasize a minor one.
7) Excessively 'Space Magic' ending.
2) No variety
3) All previous decisions rendered pointless
4) Deus/Diabolus Ex Machina embodied in the Catalyst
5) The universe is broken by the destruction of the Relay Network
6) Broke from all the established major themes in order the emphasize a minor one.
7) Excessively 'Space Magic' ending.
#24
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:22
- Made no sense. Why were your companions in the Normandy when they were at your side moments before? What's up with the child from Earth being the master of the reapers?
- Made ME1-3 decisions meaningless
- All the big questions remained unanswered
- Made ME1-3 decisions meaningless
- All the big questions remained unanswered
#25
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:23
Mass Effect as a series has been about action and exploration filled with epic storylines, memorable characters and moral dilemmas.
However, the end switches to...nothing. In the end, the boy says "Machines are teh bad, there are three ways to get rid of them. You have no other options." And sheps like "Oh, well I ignored the council, I ignored my superiors, I ignored the Reapers, but if you say its bad, than golly I guess I was wrong." And goes into three ends, none of which are especially happy endings.
Its not a moral dilemma, all three result in more or less the same outcome that only differs in the fine details. It has no connection to anything that has happened before, creates thousands of plot holes, flies in the face of Mass Effect's theme (nothing is black and white), and does nothing with the characters it spent the last three games developing. All your choices are meaningless. The world of Mass Effect is destroyed, hundreds if not thousands of aliens will die on earth, etc.
It seems like a pointlessly obtuse ending to an otherwise amazing series. Its as if someone was trying to be deep, but Im not really sure what about. "AI is Bad?" "Our best choice is to become machines?" "Space magic is cool?" As someone said, we were given a round peg to put in a square hole. And the peg was made of poo.
However, the end switches to...nothing. In the end, the boy says "Machines are teh bad, there are three ways to get rid of them. You have no other options." And sheps like "Oh, well I ignored the council, I ignored my superiors, I ignored the Reapers, but if you say its bad, than golly I guess I was wrong." And goes into three ends, none of which are especially happy endings.
Its not a moral dilemma, all three result in more or less the same outcome that only differs in the fine details. It has no connection to anything that has happened before, creates thousands of plot holes, flies in the face of Mass Effect's theme (nothing is black and white), and does nothing with the characters it spent the last three games developing. All your choices are meaningless. The world of Mass Effect is destroyed, hundreds if not thousands of aliens will die on earth, etc.
It seems like a pointlessly obtuse ending to an otherwise amazing series. Its as if someone was trying to be deep, but Im not really sure what about. "AI is Bad?" "Our best choice is to become machines?" "Space magic is cool?" As someone said, we were given a round peg to put in a square hole. And the peg was made of poo.





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