I just thought of this... Anderson not being my Councilor I got... I read in the codex that he got sick of the poltical crap and went back to what he knows best, millitary.
But... what happened to the All human council? In my ME2 game I am fairly certain that my council was all human... am I remembering wrong, or did this change also between games?
What happened to my All Human Council?
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AbsolutGrndZer0
, mars 10 2012 09:15
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:16
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They changed a lot of choices in this game to make it fit their story better.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:20
AbsolutGrndZer0
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Well, was it actually retconned or was it changed like Anderson quit and Udina took over? Cause as I said, the codex plainly stated that so it wasn't a retcon. But the council was?
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:22
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My council was of mixed species in the second game.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:27
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I made a topic like this the other day. Yeah, I have no idea what is up with this.
Would've much preferred an all-human council, and having Garrus or someone contact me about Palaven.
Would've much preferred an all-human council, and having Garrus or someone contact me about Palaven.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 09:53
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tekkaman fear wrote...
My council was of mixed species in the second game.
Hmmm I did not SPEAK to them but I remember Miranda said something about an all human council at the beginning of my game and I had said that "I did it so we could take over" option.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:07
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This is an example of either a lack of budget (that should have put multiplayer on the chopping block) or laziness of the writing team. The ME games are all about demonstrating the results of your actions several years after you've taken them, to show you consequences. So far the only games that really seem to satisfy this are The Witcher games.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:09
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Yeah, that was sadly ignored. Just like the rachni.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:09
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If the old council died, then you get a 'Human dominated' council. This is not the same as a 'all human' council, which I recall no mention of, and if there was one, I'd chalk it up to a typo/mistake.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:09
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If I remember right it was never an all human council it was a human dominated council if you let them die in ME1
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:19
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If you did intentionally destroy the Council as a Renegade Shepard, humanity raised a Council with no other races involved.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 02:15
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hawat333 wrote...
Yeah, that was sadly ignored. Just like the rachni.
No, the Rachni wasn't "ignored" if you killed the Rachni in ME1, then there is an explanation of why there is more Rachni. The Reapers cloned/genetical recreated them from DNA fragments. My Shepard was like WTF I killed her that whole mission then talked to the new queen and she didn't know me. So, in this case it's not an oversight or laziness or ignored.
As for the Council thing, I'll recheck my ME2 and see if the poster that said "Dominated" is right... I and others might just have been thinking that meant all humans when it wasn't they just had more power.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 02:49
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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
hawat333 wrote...
Yeah, that was sadly ignored. Just like the rachni.
No, the Rachni wasn't "ignored" if you killed the Rachni in ME1, then there is an explanation of why there is more Rachni. The Reapers cloned/genetical recreated them from DNA fragments. My Shepard was like WTF I killed her that whole mission then talked to the new queen and she didn't know me. So, in this case it's not an oversight or laziness or ignored.
As for the Council thing, I'll recheck my ME2 and see if the poster that said "Dominated" is right... I and others might just have been thinking that meant all humans when it wasn't they just had more power.
Just because they gave a crappy explanation as to why there's a new Rachnai queen doesn't mean they respected player choice. If there are no Rachnai left in the galaxy, there should be no Rachnai left in the galaxy. This is railroading and laziness on the part of BioWare. The advantage to having gone Renegade for that choice in ME1 should be the elimination of Rachnai units that the Reapers use ingame. Disadvantage being you don't get Rachnai forces on your side.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 03:19
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ArmyKnifeX wrote...
AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
hawat333 wrote...
Yeah, that was sadly ignored. Just like the rachni.
No, the Rachni wasn't "ignored" if you killed the Rachni in ME1, then there is an explanation of why there is more Rachni. The Reapers cloned/genetical recreated them from DNA fragments. My Shepard was like WTF I killed her that whole mission then talked to the new queen and she didn't know me. So, in this case it's not an oversight or laziness or ignored.
As for the Council thing, I'll recheck my ME2 and see if the poster that said "Dominated" is right... I and others might just have been thinking that meant all humans when it wasn't they just had more power.
Just because they gave a crappy explanation as to why there's a new Rachnai queen doesn't mean they respected player choice. If there are no Rachnai left in the galaxy, there should be no Rachnai left in the galaxy. This is railroading and laziness on the part of BioWare. The advantage to having gone Renegade for that choice in ME1 should be the elimination of Rachnai units that the Reapers use ingame. Disadvantage being you don't get Rachnai forces on your side.
If you want to look at it that way. I look at it as showing more of how powerful the Reapers are with genetic manipulation. Now, if you kill off the NEW Rachni Queen and still get bunches of Rachni forces coming against you later in the game, then I kind of agree.
Besides, just because you killed the Queen doesn't mean that every Rachni was killed. Just as there was that egg that Binary Helix found, there easily could be other eggs out there. Insects are notoriously difficult to totally wipe out. cockroaches and twinkies man, cockroaches and twinkies.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 03:23
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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
hawat333 wrote...
Yeah, that was sadly ignored. Just like the rachni.
No, the Rachni wasn't "ignored" if you killed the Rachni in ME1, then there is an explanation of why there is more Rachni. The Reapers cloned/genetical recreated them from DNA fragments. My Shepard was like WTF I killed her that whole mission then talked to the new queen and she didn't know me. So, in this case it's not an oversight or laziness or ignored.
As for the Council thing, I'll recheck my ME2 and see if the poster that said "Dominated" is right... I and others might just have been thinking that meant all humans when it wasn't they just had more power.
It's more like the Udina/Anderson change from what I understand, there are different Councilors and all that. Humanity lost the ability to 'dictate' terms to the rest of the Council races after the events in ME2 [prolly just the influence from 'We saved the Citadel!' wearing off rather than anything specific that happened].
That said, I haven't done a playthrough where I let the Destiny Ascension fall, so not personal experience, just hearsay.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 03:33
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Yea I too have killed the council in one of my shep yet the old council is still there. Acting like I saved them.
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 03:46
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firefireblow wrote...
Yea I too have killed the council in one of my shep yet the old council is still there. Acting like I saved them.
Hmm now THAT is a bug because I can say for sure that my Paragon Shepard that saved the council has the original councilors, but my Renegade Shepard has totally different councilors.
