When I beat this game last night, I did the synthesis ending. Not really because I wanted to ... but I was so freakin' confused and taken aback by the terrible shift in plot at the last minute that I just kind of ... stumbled into it.
Needless to say, I didn't get the little "Shep lives" teaser right before the credits.
Today, I reloaded the last save and did the ending again ... going with the renegade option which, all things considered, feels like the, um, 'best' of the three choices. This time I got the little teaser of Shep being alive at the end.
If you do the Paragon option, do you still get this?
Having had some time to let it sink in, I really couldn't be any more disgusted with these endings. The star child nonsense (unforgivable), the cheap and confusing Normandy scene ... ugh.
Is the only way to "survive" the ending to go the Renegade path?
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MattFini
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:28
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Yeah, if you either go green or blue, everything that Shepard is, was, and will be, is absorbed, either to control the Reapers, or to create a fusion of organic/synthetic life.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:29
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There is no Renegade or Paragon path. But yes, if you want Shep to live you have to go with ****ty Ending #3.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:30
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Finishing what you came to do is not Renegade.
You went through the Conduit to save galactic government. Saving the Council was paragon.
You went through the Omega-4 Relay to destroy the Collectors. Destroying the base was paragon.
You went to the Citadel to destroy the Reapers....
You went through the Conduit to save galactic government. Saving the Council was paragon.
You went through the Omega-4 Relay to destroy the Collectors. Destroying the base was paragon.
You went to the Citadel to destroy the Reapers....
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:33
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Nothing is explicitly paragon/renegade, but the game goes so far as to actually color the option red, and it's clearly the most negative option (Unnecessarily killing millions of beings), while "control" is colored blue, and it's not exactly like the color/alignment connection is new to this game. Either it's meant to be renegade, or BioWare thought that getting tricky and mixing things up at the end was a good idea (it was not).
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:36
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NoUserNameHere wrote...
Finishing what you came to do is not Renegade.
You went through the Conduit to save galactic government. Saving the Council was paragon.
You went through the Omega-4 Relay to destroy the Collectors. Destroying the base was paragon.
You went to the Citadel to destroy the Reapers....
lol
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:37
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Any path that has me commit genocide is not "paragon."
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:37
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NoUserNameHere wrote...
Finishing what you came to do is not Renegade.
You went through the Conduit to save galactic government. Saving the Council was paragon.
You went through the Omega-4 Relay to destroy the Collectors. Destroying the base was paragon.
You went to the Citadel to destroy the Reapers....
So was destroying the geth after negotiating a peace also paragon?
Was killing EDI after helping her and Joker to fall in love paragon?
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:48
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Kastien wrote...
NoUserNameHere wrote...
Finishing what you came to do is not Renegade.
You went through the Conduit to save galactic government. Saving the Council was paragon.
You went through the Omega-4 Relay to destroy the Collectors. Destroying the base was paragon.
You went to the Citadel to destroy the Reapers....
So was destroying the geth after negotiating a peace also paragon?
Was killing EDI after helping her and Joker to fall in love paragon?
Yeah, that "Also, you kill the same robot dudes you've been helping all game." was kinda dumb.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:55
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To get the best ending you have to have all seasons of doctor who on zune saved. Then you get the Everybody Lives Ending.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:00
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I didn't see Destroy as the Renegade path. My Shepard was full Paragon, but I still chose Destroy. My reasoning was that I know EDI and the Geth (with their newfound individualism) would gladly sacrific themselves - just as I was - so their creators could live without fear of the Reapers ever returning in one form or another. That was my first choice, and I didn't even bother going back to see the other two, figuring they were just as bad as that one.
I was also surprised by the "Shepard Lives" easter egg at the end of it.
I was also surprised by the "Shepard Lives" easter egg at the end of it.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:01
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No matter what, even though I was a paragon throughout the entire series... killing the reapers has been my one and only goal, so if I have to choose the one and only renegade to do it I'll take it. But lets face it no matter what you do in the end it doesn't really matter...
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:02
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Huh. When you put it like that, I bet all of the people my Renegade Shep gunned down (Wrex included) were probably happy to... uh... "sacrifice themselves", too.GuyWithFace wrote...
My reasoning was that I know EDI and the Geth (with their newfound individualism) would gladly sacrific themselves so their creators could live without fear of the Reapers ever returning in one form or another.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:03
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GuyWithFace wrote...
I didn't see Destroy as the Renegade path. My Shepard was full Paragon, but I still chose Destroy. My reasoning was that I know EDI and the Geth (with their newfound individualism) would gladly sacrific themselves - just as I was - so their creators could live without fear of the Reapers ever returning in one form or another. That was my first choice, and I didn't even bother going back to see the other two, figuring they were just as bad as that one.
I was also surprised by the "Shepard Lives" easter egg at the end of it.
Same. EDI specifically says that the Reapers must be destroyed, and that she would be willing to die to accomplish it. I hated sacrificing them, but it was the only way to truly break the cycle, imo.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:03
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the ending is being wildly misinterpreted. Star child? WTH are you talking about? It was a being from another galaxy taking on a form that was important to SHepard.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:04
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What, synthesis results in pretty green lights so it has to be Paragon? Shouldn't you have picked Blue then?
Realistically, all endings are Renegade options - kill all Reapers, brainwash Reapers and control them, or forcibly convert everyone to green husks (because you personally believe them to be "the next stage in evolution")
Realistically, all endings are Renegade options - kill all Reapers, brainwash Reapers and control them, or forcibly convert everyone to green husks (because you personally believe them to be "the next stage in evolution")
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:05
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Der Estr Bune wrote...
Huh. When you put it like that, I bet all of the people my Renegade Shep gunned down (Wrex included) were probably happy to... uh... "sacrifice themselves", too.
Well, I came up with that reasoning after I thought "Why the hell should I trust this stupid little god-kid? For all I know, the Control option could backfire, and running into a beam of light might just kill me and solve nothing. Now, physically shooting at and destroying a part of something that controls the Reapers? That's probably my best bet to actually get some results."
Why Bioware made our Shepards blindly trust whateverthehellthatkidthingwas was utterly stupid. Where was the option to say "I don't believe you, or care. You control the Reapers? Hey, Hackett, come pick me up and destroy the Citadel; it's what's controlling the Reapers."
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:08
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TheLostGenius wrote...
the ending is being wildly misinterpreted. Star child? WTH are you talking about? It was a being from another galaxy taking on a form that was important to SHepard.
I know that ... that was just my shorthand for being disdainful.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:10
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I don't know, but I think that you destroying the Citadel is my new favorite idea for a Renegade ending.GuyWithFace wrote...
Why Bioware made our Shepards blindly trust whateverthehellthatkidthingwas was utterly stupid. Where was the option to say "I don't believe you, or care. You control the Reapers? Hey, Hackett, come pick me up and destroy the Citadel; it's what's controlling the Reapers."
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:10
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Shepard is having an hallucination. Your 2 team members are trying to wake you up with slaps while you are being introcnated by Harbringer (And that guy is ****ing huge). So your team members have no choice, they take you to the normandy and escape the Sol sistem before the Reapers blew up Normandy.
Or...Sheperd was having an haluccination when the Reapers (i think it was harbringer) whiped out the tank squad. Your team members are trying to wake you up.
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Well, that's what i think that happend while Shepard was on Harbringer drugs.
Or...Sheperd was having an haluccination when the Reapers (i think it was harbringer) whiped out the tank squad. Your team members are trying to wake you up.
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Well, that's what i think that happend while Shepard was on Harbringer drugs.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:16
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Frocharocha wrote...
Shepard is having an hallucination. Your 2 team members are trying to wake you up with slaps while you are being introcnated by Harbringer (And that guy is ****ing huge). So your team members have no choice, they take you to the normandy and escape the Sol sistem before the Reapers blew up Normandy.
Or...Sheperd was having an haluccination when the Reapers (i think it was harbringer) whiped out the tank squad. Your team members are trying to wake you up.
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Well, that's what i think that happend while Shepard was on Harbringer drugs.
I'm curious, though... how the hell did Hackett know that was Harbinger? All "Capital Ship" Reapers are the same size, and even though Harbinger is said to be the largest, how would he be able to tell at a glance? Does Harbinger have its name painted in big shiny letters on its hull or something?
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:43
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Since Harby disengaging makes absolutely no sense (the goal is destorying the Crucible, which can be best achieved by the largest superdreadnoughts shooting at infantry... really?), how about we ignore that bit too?
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 12:06
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GuyWithFace wrote...
Frocharocha wrote...
Shepard is having an hallucination. Your 2 team members are trying to wake you up with slaps while you are being introcnated by Harbringer (And that guy is ****ing huge). So your team members have no choice, they take you to the normandy and escape the Sol sistem before the Reapers blew up Normandy.
Or...Sheperd was having an haluccination when the Reapers (i think it was harbringer) whiped out the tank squad. Your team members are trying to wake you up.
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Well, that's what i think that happend while Shepard was on Harbringer drugs.
I'm curious, though... how the hell did Hackett know that was Harbinger? All "Capital Ship" Reapers are the same size, and even though Harbinger is said to be the largest, how would he be able to tell at a glance? Does Harbinger have its name painted in big shiny letters on its hull or something?
Harbringer have 6/4 glowing eyes. When i saw the massive Reaper before he blewed up the tank squad i instantly noticed that the Reaper looked alot like Harbringer from the codex and ME2
