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[Ultra Prism]

I am feeling depressed after ending, inconclusive and unsatisfied. I mean how could they think that they could pull off hopeless move

[Dean_the_Young]

They didn't. There's plenty of room for hope about just about every issue but Shepard's survival... which is hardly cause for despair.

[Wynne]

MOELANDER wrote...

 A few months back I was in a mental hospital curing depression. I overcame it. I had a new outlook on life. I felt healed and ready for action. This kept.

Now I played ME3 and saw, that I didn't get a satisfying ending.

All off a sudden, I feel the same as I did before I went to the clinic. I feel the same old urges to just hide under my blanket, to end everything, to keep everything away. My family is extremely alarmed. I am trying to rationalize with myself: "It's only a game! Calm down! It's not the end of the world!"
It doesn't effin work! I can't switch this huge feeling of betrayal off. BioWare promised so much and delivered not! I liked the game. I hated, absolutely hated the lacking ending (there is only ONE with small variations).

After I was released from hospital, I put a lot of work into a Savage Worlds Conversion for Mass Effect. Savage Worlds is a Pen and Paper Roleplaying system. I poured my heart into it, now it's worthless, the Galaxy I wrote it for didn't survive or will never rebuild. The Stargazer ending confirmed it.

My family doesn't understand my grief. They try to help, and I am optimistic, that this wound will heal with time, too.
But for now it's a major setback in my mental stability.

Please help me...

I understand, Moelander. The end of the game broke my heart. It's just not worthy of the Mass Effect legacy in any way. Bioware crafted this amazing dream, talked so much about how hard they were working... and the worst part is, in some places, it shows. In others, like the ending... it's just a mess. My love interest got stabbed in the stomach and died, and no one ever mentioned it outside of the little pocket that was Huerta. His name was on the wall--that's it. I have to send out a great big WTF to Liara, Garrus, Tali, and Kaidan who like an hour later accused me of cheating even though he had called me a traitor after not having seen me for two years and then we never said a word to each other when I was doing that whole suicide mission thing. Sure, ask me about earth and everything else, never about the person I loved who just died--those aren't the friends I knew.

But up until the ending, I had hope that it would all come together... it didn't. It got worse. All of what I did, all my work and hope and everything that the first game had made me imagine... it just turned into a nightmare where if you think about it, nothing good can happen. Regardless of anything else, all the species they made us love are pretty much stranded in the destroyed Sol system with too few resources to even live--especially the quarians/turians. 

It's a horrible, dark ending. Casey apparently lied, unless this is some huge bug, about the amazing, definitive ending we were going to get if we did everything right. All I saw was a lot of slow walking during repetitive dream sequences and a railroad into a nightmare from which no good could come. 

But that's not real life. That's exactly what distressed me about these endings--they were pseudo-philosophical, esoteric bs, not a pragmatic or emotional ounce located anywhere within them. This was not the intelligent sci-fi I fell in love with. This was fear of cliches taken to extremes. 

Considering how unpopular this static three-colored ending was, I have to think we can change this. It's what Shepard would say, isn't it? Screw this nonsense--I'm going to fight until it's fixed. So don't let this depress you. Believe that the Mass Effect series was more than what we've seen, and that it can be more again.

Modifié par Wynne, 11 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[ReD BaKen9]

dude that sucks

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

If you're feeling depressed, watch some My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

That is not a joke.

[Sashimi_taco]

I've been to inpatient treatment as well. I know how it feels.

May i suggest you bring this to your therapist? This game has been your coping mechanism, just as it was for me. When i didn't get the ending I needed for my escape I kinda lost it for a bit.

I ended up doing a lot of head cannon for me to be able to deal with it and I feel better. A lot of people don't get why a video game would mean so much, but I get it. Mass Effect made me feel like I was in control of something, and If i worked hard enough I could get the happiness I have such a hard time getting in myself. Thats what they tell me at therapy, if you just keep working you will get better.

I"m mostly better now because of hard work, but the endings really put me in a downer. I guess I don't really know the solution but I know how you feel. I was already having some pretty bad dreams before the game came out about feeling helpless. I have nightmares all the time because of the stuff I talk about in therapy, but after I finished the game they have been worse. But now they incorporate mass effect for some reason.

I know this is not mass effect's fault, it just really sucks. I know I have these dreams because of me.

Modifié par Sashimi_taco, 11 mars 2012 - 04:37 .

[syllogi]

OP, I'm sure you already know this, but you should definitely speak to a therapist and or family doctor if your mood doesn't improve soon. Depression can be an ongoing disorder, and it may be something you will deal with for the rest of your life. Don't let people tell you to "suck it up", when you could be getting help.

Even if it's *just a game*, for someone suffering from cyclical or recurrent depression, having your favorite form of entertainment end can be a trigger. It may sound ridiculous to someone looking at it from the outside, but you don't need to justify yourself to them.

[JasonDaPsycho]

Thanks for sharing. My mother fought depression as well and was somewhat suicidal. This stuff is no joke.

Just try to take it personal with the writers instead of seeing it as a crappy endings. Not saying you should go on twitter and send them messages of hate. Just try and see the ending as products of crappy writers instead of a canon ending to a great universe. Easier said than done my friend. Take it easy. Start doing something else. Pick up a TV series to follow or something.

[moteh]

Xrissie wrote...

Christ man, seems like you need some more therapy. Seriously, depression over a ****ing game?

I'm sorry if I sound rude, but come on.

I'm sorry, but I hate when people say "it's only a game"  It cheapens the medium as a whole.  I rarely see people go "it's just a movie" over something like Shindler's List when people are crying, why does a game get lesser respect when most games have far more superior experiences than a movie does (I didn't say storyline, I said experiences).

If something is emotional involving for someone, movies, books, games, does it matter how it's seen to you?  You are basically putting the person down because they don't enjoy the same thing you do the same way.  We all have so few bright spots in our reality, why harp on someone for finding one in a fictional world?

[Sywen]

MOELANDER wrote...

Thanks!

All of you! Even the rude ones!

I will be back and then we fight for a better ending any way possible!

But first Paper Mario calls my name. And my friends!

MOELANDER out

It gets better!  I think this is one of the only places Iwill find people who understand how I'm feeling.  My husband thinks I'm nuts lol (he thought that before but I'm getting alot more sidelooks now).

Modifié par Sywen, 11 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[Scarpo]

Haha not gonna' like but I cried and was seriously depressed (and still am) trying to comprehend what the **** just happened.

Can someone clarify this for me? I was reading the different endings in the strategy guide at work and apparently there's about 10 different variations of the ending and the best one is to have 4,000 - 5,000 Readiness Rating and Shepard lives regardless of "saving" Anderson or not.

So Shepard can live?

BTW, I thought the ending was terrible and having the possibility of my Shepard surviving would make it less horrible.

[GBGriffin]

moteh wrote...

I'm sorry, but I hate when people say "it's only a game"  It cheapens the medium as a whole.  I rarely see people go "it's just a movie" over something like Shindler's List when people are crying, why does a game get lesser respect when most games have far more superior experiences than a movie does (I didn't say storyline, I said experiences).

People have dismissed it as "just a game" to me as well. I've started phrasing it as "it's a passion". People, at least the people I talk to, understand that and can relate to it easier.

The thing is, all of us have our passions. Someone else gave the excellent example of fixing up a car and then having someone key it on your first drive. Even if people can't relate to having the ending of a game ruined, I'd hope that, at the very least, they can understand what it's like to have a passion, one that has built up over years, just torn apart in, literally, minutes.

[Evil_medved]

Use you feelings man, dont let bioware get out of that so easily. We'll see it trough and we'll make sure that better ending will be added to the game.

[Okuto]

Thank you OP for sharing this as I too felt very down after the ending......

Although I only lost one night's sleep I'm happy you shared this as I felt a bit embarrassed to tell anyone a video game's ending kept me up at night,,,,,,

I had a feeling there would be a grimdark ending option thus I started with my paragon character only to be cheated again.....as I near the end with my renegade character I can't bear finishing the game to see that depressing mess......

[Turtlicious]

WildGunsTomcat wrote...
If you get depressed at a video game...you need real mental assistance that cannot be provided by anyone other than a trained professional. 

Seriously. 

This coming from a trained professional who understands the finer nuances of depression, and how it affects people, and how it's triggered and how litt~

oh no, it's just a troll on the internet, carry on. You totes don't seem uneducated and a bit dickish right now.

[Lucy Glitter]

 Hey Moe, suffer from Depression, too. Was in hospital recently. 

I am going through the same thing as you Getting out of the house really helps me when I want to hide away. I sleep a lot, too. Especially in my dark times. That and binge eating. 

Try to get out for a bit, go for a shop or get dinner out with someone. I hope things look up. Truly. I go to that place a lot, like you. The ending really hit me, too. It was like watching Pocahontas 2 when I was a kid. Same thing. Ignore the people saying to get over it, too. They just don't understand mental illness like others do

xoxoxoxo

*cuddle*



edit: I also use gaming as a coping mechanism. I try to not spend too long on them at a time, though. They do help a lot Same with movies for me. 

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 11 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[fish of doom]

moteh wrote...

I'm sorry, but I hate when people say "it's only a game"  It cheapens the medium as a whole.  I rarely see people go "it's just a movie" over something like Shindler's List when people are crying, why does a game get lesser respect when most games have far more superior experiences than a movie does (I didn't say storyline, I said experiences).

If something is emotional involving for someone, movies, books, games, does it matter how it's seen to you?  You are basically putting the person down because they don't enjoy the same thing you do the same way.  We all have so few bright spots in our reality, why harp on someone for finding one in a fictional world?

THIS!

fiction is fiction, and games are INTERACTIVE fiction, which makes the personal impact even greater. how are people not supposed to get involved emotionally with it, when the game is purposefully designed to grip you by the metaphorical balls emotionally, and then goes and pulls something like those endings on you?

[Vajraja]

Yeah definitely enjoy some time away with friends - play pool or something you enjoy outside.

Sorry you went through that but stay strong!

[fish of doom]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 Hey Moe, suffer from Depression, too. Was in hospital recently. 

I am going through the same thing as you Getting out of the house really helps me when I want to hide away. I sleep a lot, too. Especially in my dark times. That and binge eating. 

Try to get out for a bit, go for a shop or get dinner out with someone. I hope things look up. Truly. I go to that place a lot, like you. The ending really hit me, too. It was like watching Pocahontas 2 when I was a kid. Same thing. Ignore the people saying to get over it, too. They just don't understand mental illness like others do

xoxoxoxo

*cuddle*

KITTY!!!

[Lucy Glitter]

Kitties make things better. PewDiePie (YT gamer who only does horror) does this when he gets too scared. 

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 11 mars 2012 - 05:00 .

[nitefyre410]

me well I going to play one of- it all 3 of these fighting games. SSf 4, SF X TK and UMC 3 and every fight I am going picture the AI/God kid... give him the beat down of all time.

Especially with Doctor Doom... almost makes my want to make a shepard named Victor "Doom" Shepard just to have be a ME version of Doctor Doom and just break that smug little brat down with the sheer awesome that is Doom.

[SSVDisappoint]

I didn't quote it but a previous poster said this thread restored their faith in humanity and I have to say I agree it's good to see people understanding something like this!.

I can finally say I feel as if im in mourning for the games universe..I felt weird at first when i thought of it like that but it seems a lot of people are going through the same!.

[Turtlicious]

People build emotional connections with things that have been in there lives for long periods of time, be it books movies or literature. People would feel the same way if the LOTR movies ended because gandalf teleported the ring into mordor in the last 5 minutes of the movie. And they'd feel the same if Rowling decided to say eff it, and make Harry Potter a cyborg with a megaman blaster arm that his Mom gave him.

We build these connections because that's how the human psyche works, and when you already have a... for lack of a better word "damaged system" these connections grow stronger and hurt more when something happens to that connection. I have clinical depression, going to psychologist soon because sometimes I'm too lazy to even shower or eat. It get's so bad that even leaving my bad for a cigarrette is a chore.

Yes, I built a connection with pixels. Yes, I'm creepy as **** for it.

BUT, that's normal for people with my condition, it's something that happens, and it's something that you have to deal with.

I kinda forgot where I was going with this. But please don't bash those with depression.

And those with depression don't feel weird that you're mourning the loss of something important in your life.

And normal people. Suck a dick, you guys are the minority, and honestly I don't care about your opinion so nyeh. (No you guys are cool)

EDIT: I only took like 2 semesters of Psychology in JC, so take my words with a grain of salt.

Modifié par Turtlicious, 11 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[oneyedjohn]

 I know how you feel. Depresion and anxiety runs in my family.

In the spring of 2007, I was suicidally depressed, as in knowing how cold a metal blade is aganst your feash.it took me years of therapy and Meds to deal with it.

But on that night where I really close to doing myself in. one of the major thoughts thoughts that prevented me from plunging that blade into my neck was

"I want to play mass effect" and it did not disappoint

 I know it is just a game to most people,but when you have a severe level of depression, the strangest can become lifesavers. 

As for lighting your mood. MST3K and music always works for me.

best of luck

[aspyinthehouseoflove]

I was surprised to see this in the threads, really, and I just wanted to say you are not alone in this. I've never had a video game effect me this way and it took me two days to realize I was lapping into one of my depressed states. Since most of my family has an issue with depression I have learned to recognize the signs in myself. I have to admit that I'm going through the five stages of grief over a video game. I'm so angry about Thane and then the ending in tandem, that given half the choice I would stop playing Bioware games if I knew this is what they were going to keep doing to me. But part of me is holding out hope, I know the endings so far, so I will wait until more DLC comes out to continue it... or maybe I never will. I may not want to put myself though more emotional trauma, maybe I'll just give it a few days and grieve, prepare myself. Then again, there is the beauty of fanfiction and headcanon to get through this. Here is me wishing you well!