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This is something that Bioware actually wrote once upon a time:


Klencory (planet) is famously claimed by the eccentric volus billionaire Kumun Shol. He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light." These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."



Your interpretation of this may be different. But I render it as there being a form of "Anti-Reapers". The Reaper's polar opposite. Maybe they never existed. Maybe they were defeated. Maybe they are still around, waiting. 


Lets assume for a minute that this isn't complete garbage.
 


Here is the main concept for the Anti-Reapers:

They originated as members of an advanced race that managed to evade the Reaper's destruction. Over time they began matching the Reaper's technology to use against them. 

Simple right?

Of course they must continue to grow their strength, using similar but "less brutal" techniques as the Reapers do. Before an advanced species is completely annihilated the "beings of light" save a handful of those that are left. They "convert" them, similar to how Reapers harvest organics. But they aren't being killed or liquified.. They are being preserved.

Using a "synthesis" type method, they are connected to the Anti-Reaper. (Imagine how the Geth plug into the pods to get into the Consensus. It would be very similar to this.) Each organic life form powers it and controls it.

Every few cycles the Anti-Reaper races wake up and continue working on their super weapon/upgrading their technology to match the advances the Reapers have made. But they are mostly in an advanced form of stasis until their time of activation (The Crucible.)

All of this technology was created by the "beings of light". But it would be revealed that the original creators are actually all dead. Only their machines are left to continue their work. 


You may be thinking that my inspiration for this has something to do with 2001: A Space Odyssey, that's true.

"Bowman is transported via the monolith to a star system far outside our galaxy. During this journey, he goes through a large interstellar switching station, and sees other species' spaceships going on other routes; he dubs it the 'Grand Central Station' of the universe. Bowman is given a wide variety of sights; from the wreckage of ancient civilizations to what appear to be life-forms, living on the surfaces of a binary star system.
He is brought to what appears to be a nice hotel suite, carefully constructed from monitored television transmissions, and designed to make him feel at ease. Bowman goes to sleep. As he sleeps, his mind and memories are drained from his body, and he is made into a new immortal entity, a Star Child, that can live and travel in space"
(That starchild was a hell of a let better than the one we got.)


When Shepard activates the Crucible it alerts the Anti-Reaper that a cycle has come far enough to finally stop the Reapers. The Crucible isn't the weapon but it signals the weapon..


The Anti-Reaper is summoned. It would be pure white in appearance. The way you might imagine an "Anti-Reaper" might look. But of course it would look less threatening than the Reaper we are accustomed to seeing.


In coopertation with the intelligent races of the current cycle, the Anti-Reaper (or Anti-Reapers) would destroy or disable all of the Reapers in the Galaxy.


Yes, I'm talking about brute force. A real battle, with heavy losses.



Depending on your assets. The Anti-Reaper would:


-Low assets: The attempt fails completely. The superweapon is not enough to stop the Reapers.

-Medium assets: The Anti-Reaper self destructs upon destroying the Reapers. Every organic lifeform in the Solar System is wiped out. But organic life will be free to evolve in peace.

-High assets: Reapers are destroyed. The Anti-Reaper disappears - Shepard also vanishes.

-Max assets: Reapers are destroyed. The Anti-Reaper disappears. Shepard lives a happy life with his crew.


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This is just me brainstorming what they might have done if they went with this idea. Feedback is welcome.

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 07 avril 2012 - 07:34 .


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Wow, no one replied to this? That's a pretty damn good read.

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Luan wrote...

Wow, no one replied to this? That's a pretty damn good read.

Ha. Thank you. It's just me trying to plot a game from a planet description. 

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the Catalyst kid kinda looks like... a being.... of light... doesn't it...
where did you find this anyway? where is it from?

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suusuuu wrote...

the Catalyst kid kinda looks like... a being.... of light... doesn't it...
where did you find this anyway? where is it from?

Yes.. but the Star Child in Arthur C. Clarke's books is way cooler.

It's from a planet description of Klencory. Mass Effect 1 I think...

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory 

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AxisEvolve wrote...

suusuuu wrote...

the Catalyst kid kinda looks like... a being.... of light... doesn't it...
where did you find this anyway? where is it from?

Yes.. but the Star Child in Arthur C. Clarke's books is way cooler.

It's from a planet description of Klencory. Mass Effect 1 I think...

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory 


I always hated the ending of 2001, mainly because it made no sense to me.
The first thing I compared ME3's ending with to everyone was 2001 A Space Odissey.

That Star Child is just FREAKY.

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Klencory is visitable in me3 too, and still has that description + a note that the guy who has this prophecy is on the planet with a suite of bodyguards and they'll probably be wiped out with a quick reaper orbital bombardment while they're on their way to scrap some place more important.

I got a chuckle that it specifically mentions that he's not important.

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My brains are all over the floor now. Thanks OP! (But seriously great find OP)

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kojomon wrote...

Klencory is visitable in me3 too, and still has that description + a note that the guy who has this prophecy is on the planet with a suite of bodyguards and they'll probably be wiped out with a quick reaper orbital bombardment while they're on their way to scrap some place more important.

I got a chuckle that it specifically mentions that he's not important.


Yeah I saw this as well, its basically BioWare subtly telling you that the theory is nonsense.

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Luan wrote...
I always hated the ending of 2001, mainly because it made no sense to me.
The first thing I compared ME3's ending with to everyone was 2001 A Space Odissey.

That Star Child is just FREAKY.

The movie had great visuals, but it lacked depth in storytelling. The book however... was great. It explained a lot of what I didn't understand. The ending actually blew my mind.. I really enjoyed it. I'm finished reading 2010: Odyssey  Two a while ago (the Star Child gets explained a little bit more bit in this one). I'm still debating on whether or not to finish the series.. The rest of the books have generally unfavorable reviews. But I might take the plunge. 


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My brains are all over the floor now. Thanks OP! (But seriously great find OP)

 
No problem. I really thought this + Haestrom would play some part of ME3 but they had to overhaul their ending, several times I guess.

:(

kojomon wrote...

Klencory is visitable in me3 too, and still has that description + a note that the guy who has this prophecy is on the planet with a suite of bodyguards and they'll probably be wiped out with a quick reaper orbital bombardment while they're on their way to scrap some place more important. 

I got a chuckle that it specifically mentions that he's not important.

Wow. Didn't see that.. I don't think I was ever given the option to visit there. I couldn't do the Volus or Elcor missions. My import is seriously bugged.

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This was buried way too quickly! A very interesting find... between this and the numerous hints at dark energy, I seriously can't imagine why the ending didn't implement all of this foreshadowing.

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Not bad, I could go with this.

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I like it, but it's just too corny and full of space magic...

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

I like it, but it's just too corny and full of space magic...

Welcome to Mass Effect.
:wizard:

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Mass Effect has "borrowed" enough from Babylon 5. We don't need Vorlons, too.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

I like it, but it's just too corny and full of space magic...

Welcome to Mass Effect.
:wizard:


Post-harby roasting shep Mass Effect that is.

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Let's not trade one form of Space Magic for another.

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Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Let's not trade one form of Space Magic for another.

There will never be an ending that isn't space magic. I'm sorry. 

A surviving species using the same methods as the Reapers, to fight the Reapers. How is that any more space magic than anything else?

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 20 mars 2012 - 04:37 .


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AxisEvolve wrote...

Luan wrote...
I always hated the ending of 2001, mainly because it made no sense to me.
The first thing I compared ME3's ending with to everyone was 2001 A Space Odissey.

That Star Child is just FREAKY.

The movie had great visuals, but it lacked depth in storytelling. The book however... was great. It explained a lot of what I didn't understand. The ending actually blew my mind.. I really enjoyed it. I'm finished reading 2010: Odyssey  Two a while ago (the Star Child gets explained a little bit more bit in this one). I'm still debating on whether or not to finish the series.. The rest of the books have generally unfavorable reviews. But I might take the plunge.



So then I think I'll pick up the books. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare used more 'old sci-fi' space magic plots to tie the ending together. Maybe they'll even catch your theory here :P

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Probably my favorite planet entry from the first game and I was glad to find it in the last game. It said something along the lines of "as it turned out his theory wasn't that crazy after all".

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Holy crap, this is good.

Also, why has nobody really mentioned the definition of "Crucible" yet?

Definition: A place or occasion of severe test or trial: "the crucible of combat".

Definitely makes sense in this context.

I am a supporter of the indoctrination/hallucination theory, and this certainly fits with it. (Stands on it's own pretty well too.) Possibly the Crucible's "test" is seeing if the "hero" can shrug off indoctrination, which would prove them worthy to summon the anti-reaper.

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Chewie07 wrote...

Holy crap, this is good.

Also, why has nobody really mentioned the definition of "Crucible" yet?

Definition: A place or occasion of severe test or trial: "the crucible of combat".

Definitely makes sense in this context.

I am a supporter of the indoctrination/hallucination theory, and this certainly fits with it. (Stands on it's own pretty well too.) Possibly the Crucible's "test" is seeing if the "hero" can shrug off indoctrination, which would prove them worthy to summon the anti-reaper.

Thanks. 

That's right.. The Crucible could have just been a huge amplifier that signaled for help.

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Dam, it would be kickass if the crucible is a giant microphone that calls the anti-reaper forces from the other side of dark space. Then they can space wrestle each other.

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This isn't an ending I would personally get behind, but it is an interesting thought. Especially compelling is the fact that it would make more sense.

EDIT: actually, the more I think about it, maybe I would get behind it. :?

Modifié par cinderburster, 20 mars 2012 - 04:56 .


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I like this.