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[Terminus Echoes]

For the record, I never looked up anything about the endings before I finished the game. I knew about it as it happened.

Alright, so I JUST finished the game, and I believe I got the best ending possible. I destroyed the Reapers (no synthesis BS or whatever that stupid kid was talking about), and the Normandy crashlands on that tropical planet, with Joker, Tali, and Garrus stepping out, much to my relief. I also then see my Shepard gasping at the end, meaning that he is alive.

So now, what do I think?

I still think the endings sucked. BioWare went way too philiosphical on a series that was pretty straightforward. They created a universe, built us up to save it, and didn't let us, even though I got the best ending possible, playing Mass Effect 1, 2, and of course, 3.

I'd think it'd be better if Shepard was on the planet with the surviving Normandy crew, and they could all live happily ever after. I think a lot of us would like that better than going into this bizarre and pointless deal with controlling, destorying, or synthesizing. I heard that Shepard is on Earth, which destroys the idea that maybe he did meet up with the remaining crew. So, in other words, our dreams are ultimately crushed.

We don't want a philosophy, we want an ending. We don't want to build a "legend" through more gameplay and DLC, we want closure.

Despite having a full Paragon bar, I couldn't do the last Charm option on the Illusive Man, and I was thinking about maybe playing through to see what would happen. Minutes later, I decided against that. I may go back in for achievements and whatnot, but I can't see myself playing through again, or even buying another Mass Effect game.

I grew attached to my Shepard and the characters, and I did everything right, had 5000+ assets, 100% readiness, everything. But it seems that none of it makes a single difference.

I think with this all taken into account, from the pixel-sized problems to those that expand farther than the game itself, Mass Effect is pretty dead. Drew Karpyshyn, the main writer, left BioWare, and with the massive uproar from the community and lack of address from BioWare, no future Mass Effect game will ever be very successful, especially if it's trying follow ME3.

Why? Well, anything before it, we know it won't matter. Anything after it is pretty much ruined by what came before it. So unless BioWare addresses these issues and decides to fix what is perhaps the biggest letdown in gaming history, Mass Effect is nothing but a ghost.

[John Locke N7]

as we know it? yes

[United_Strafes]

For me absolutely. Have several completionist imports ready all the way from level 60 ME1 characters. ZERO motivation to ever play Mass Effect again ever.

I also did not spoil myself on the endings, just finished a few hours ago, disgusted.

[Der Estr Bune]

For me, yeah. I was really excited to go back and replay the other games before the ending, but now I don't really want to touch them. Even 1 is spoiled by the fact that I know my choices will amount to absolutely nothing.

[thesnake777]

I feel no desire to play any of the games again...

[Apocsapel91]

Here's for hoping Bioware can pull off the Lazarus Project on ME3.

*raises glass*

Modifié par Apocsapel91, 10 mars 2012 - 11:16 .

[The5Virtues]

There were a few early interviews that stated they had no current plans to continue Mass Effect after this game, and with Rumors of Baldur's Gate and with the next Dragon Age game coming up I imagine that's probably true... so yeah, regardless of the lousy conclusion to ME3 it seems this was going to be the end no matter what.

At least until EA says "Let's make some more money off Mass Effect."

[Su37]

No, I don't really think so. I didn't hate the endings, but I didn't like them either. I still plan on going back to Mass Effect 1 and playing all the way through the third game multiple times; I'm not going to let the endings ruin my favorite series.

Modifié par SU37, 10 mars 2012 - 11:17 .

[trifecta739]

The story will never feel quite the same. The magic is gone.

[idunhavaname]

yes until BioWare fixes the ending.

[Asuka Bianchini]

Same feeling. As I was playing, I was just imagining what my other plays would be.
But at the end... it's been 2 days I can't really concentrate on anything, and just looking at my ME games, hurts.

[Cainne Chapel]

Actually I have 5 more playthroughs going right now. The ending while a let down, doesn't disrupt the awesome fun I had WHILE playing. Best 38 hours of my life!

Seriously though I did enjoy the game immensely and look forward to insanity

[Terminus Echoes]

The5Virtues wrote...

There were a few early interviews that stated they had no current plans to continue Mass Effect after this game, and with Rumors of Baldur's Gate and with the next Dragon Age game coming up I imagine that's probably true... so yeah, regardless of the lousy conclusion to ME3 it seems this was going to be the end no matter what.

At least until EA says "Let's make some more money off Mass Effect."

Well, no current plans. I've heard before that there could be more Mass Effect games, but just not with Shepard.

For example, a Mass Effect MMORPG would have been great. A future game with Mass Effect multiplayer deathmatches would have been cool. There was so much potential with this series. But, if what you say is true and indeed they didn't have any plans to expand the series, then perhaps they really just didn't care about Mass Effect at all, given the current state of things.

Likely, though, EA will pass the franchise along to another developer, much like with Bungie, Microsoft, and Halo. Maybe they'll give more care and attention, like Mass Effect and this community deserve.

[Eterna]

No, irrational fans will tell you otherwise.

[Asuka Bianchini]

The5Virtues wrote...

There were a few early interviews that stated they had no current plans to continue Mass Effect after this game, and with Rumors of Baldur's Gate and with the next Dragon Age game coming up I imagine that's probably true... so yeah, regardless of the lousy conclusion to ME3 it seems this was going to be the end no matter what.

At least until EA says "Let's make some more money off Mass Effect."

They will continue with ME series (dunno how, but...) and I think that is one strong reason we had those endings. They need more of a narrowed closure to continue ME. There was too many loose ends like DA:O, and they already saw how it played on DA2.
I can think of many possible scenarios to continue ME with the variety of choices that were given still.

[Terminus Echoes]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Actually I have 5 more playthroughs going right now. The ending while a let down, doesn't disrupt the awesome fun I had WHILE playing. Best 38 hours of my life!

Seriously though I did enjoy the game immensely and look forward to insanity

I will not deny that the rest of the game was good. Fantastic, even (except for that damn Reaper on Rannoch). However, that's merely the means to the end, and the end is the destruction of the means, so playing through a second time isn't really something I'd see worthy of considering.

[DaddyFoxDerek]

trifecta739 wrote...

The story will never feel quite the same. The magic is gone.

Couldn't state it any better than this....

[zr0iq]

Mass Effect is harvested. The reapers took it.

j/k; a story can be as good as you want, but someone has clearly not thought about marketing when creating ME3.

[Alpha-Centuri]

I don't know if I'd pay for Baldur's gate with the Bioware of ME3 and DAII. They lost the ability to close stories.

[DarkSpider88]

Unfortunately I doubt it. The pre-sales have been great so they will bring out another one. I however will not be partaking in the next adventure unless Shepard's trilogy gets fixed.

[Dreogan]

Bioware took a dump on the writer/reader contract with this ending by:

-Trivializing choices made throughout the three games by simply ignoring them at the end.
-Showing us a gun on the wall (dark energy) and never firing it.
-Forming relationships between many supporting characters, then forgetting about those relationships completely at the end.
-Forcing Shepard to break character by blindly accepting the Catalyst's solutions.

As far as I'm concerned, I play Bioware's games because I like their stories. If they can't get something as basic, as elemental, as the writer/reader contract right then I have absolutely no reason to trust them with plot or characterization in the future. They either show me they can resolve what they've presented as a trilogy time and time again, or they are dead to me.

Modifié par Dreogan, 10 mars 2012 - 11:37 .

[Terminus Echoes]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Unfortunately I doubt it. The pre-sales have been great so they will bring out another one. I however will not be partaking in the next adventure unless Shepard's trilogy gets fixed.

Pre is bolded because that's what it is: pre, as in before. Before we knew what the endings were and how none of what is done matters.

We were all anticipating a solid ending to one of the greatest game universes in history, and what we got was a mushy ending that a good 90% or more of the community obviously has a distaste for.

[Fjordgnu]

If there is a Mass Effect 4, it will have to establish which of the ME3 endings is the canonical one, which is a risky proposition. Otherwise, it would have to take place hundreds or thousands of years in the future, in a time so distant that the endings of ME3 sort of start to blend together into rumor and half-truth.

If that does happen, my money is on "the Reapears retreated into Dark Space and were never seen again; the galaxy eventually recovered and discovered how to create marginally more primitive mass relays based on the same technology that created the Crucible."

[sorentoft]

If they do not fix the endings: Yes. It is dead as an RPG.

[morrie23]

For me, Mass Effect is severely damaged. The 'revelations' in the end critically undermine the whole trilogy.