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[FiGhTiNCoWBoY]

The endings all blow, but that's been said already.  What makes zero sense to me, is despite just being around Earth and seeing Shepard off, and then rejoining Arrow team in the fight, for some reason Joker is hauling ass trying to outrun the Mass Relay explosions.  Are we to just assume that every other fleet in the galaxy that we just assembled for the final conflict got roflstomped?  

And if that's not bad enough, what the hell is the squad that was JUST WITH ME, probably less than 10 minutes ago making a suicide run for the beam, suddenly doing back on the damn Normandy?  Did they all go "Oh snap, Shepard got hit by that beam, lets GTFO guys!  Joker pick us up, we're getting out of here before Reapers murder everything!"  

After 5 years of loving mass effect, I really feel like this ending is Bioware's way of taking a massive hot crap on the entire franchise.  Only thing left now is Mass Effect "Giligan's Island" DLC where you get to watch Joker die because his bones are just about to shatter from the explosion and then play as the remaining 2 squad memebers foraging for berries and making shelter from broken Normandy parts.

[Almostfaceman]

To center in on the question in the title, we have no idea why Joker is flying away from the battle. None. If I were Joker, I'd be flying into the Citadel as soon as the arms opened up to see if I could support Shepard somehow, you know, because the fate of the galaxy is at stake. And Joker likes Shepard. And so does the rest of the Normandy crew.

[dslmc]

I couldnt tell if the Normandy was outrunning the Mass Relay explosion, or for whatever reason just in transit when it sent thru the Catalyst Reaper-be-gone blast.

[idunhavaname]

He dun goofed

[I_Jedi]

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers. Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic disorder.

[BrotherFluffy]

Nope, nobody knows why the hell Joker's fleeing a battle when everyone know's you're still alive(Hackett calls you by name right after the Crucible docks). He'd NEVER leave while there was still hope that Shepard was still alive and could pull this off, and neither would your crew.

[FiGhTiNCoWBoY]

Oh man..just watched the Synthesis ending. Now I feel even worse. My poor Garus is going to be a perma third-wheel while Joker and EDI make weird little human/synthetic babies...

[FiGhTiNCoWBoY]

I_Jedi wrote...

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers. Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic disorder.

If only it were true it would make everything alright lol.

[DrowNoble]

Well this issue is one of the many with The End of ME3. Liara and Garrus were my endgame squadmates. They were just with me on the tank when we wrecked but somehow 20 mins later they: got picked up by the Normandy (with Harbinger like 50 ft away), flew across the galaxy, got shot down and crash landed on an alien planet.

Seriously Bioware what were you thinking?

[Almostfaceman]

I_Jedi wrote...

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers. Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic disorder.

I would sorta buy this out of desperation if it were not for the Stargazer grandpa bit.

[Greed1914]

See, this is one of the fundamental questions that makes me wonder how they actually thought that these endings were acceptable. The only reason for the Normandy to be in a relay at that time is so they could show us the galactic reset, but the problem is there is no reason for that. Joker wouldn't leave like that, and he'd have no reason to leave if the fight was still going. If they wanted to show us the galactic reset, why didn't it crash on Earth. Then at least I could assume my crew helped rebuild and had a way to potentially get back home.

It's one thing to make an ending that people might not like, it's another to go with something that does not make sense for the characters or the situation.

[I_Jedi]

Almostfaceman wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers. Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic disorder.

I would sorta buy this out of desperation if it were not for the Stargazer grandpa bit.

I have an explanation for that too. You see, Shepard started hearing voices of the kid and his grandpa in his head. The epilogue takes place when Shepard is in the mental hospital.

And yes, he does do this in the game. Don't forget those visions he had of the kid in that forest.

[Varus Torvyn]

Seemed to me Joker was trying to outrun that wave from the Crucible.

[Karrie788]

Not to mention we're talking about a character who stayed onboard a half-destroyed ship at the beginning of ME2, hoping to save it.

Joker would never leave Shepard and the others behind. Him fleeing is completely out of character.

And the fact that we have to ask ourselves those questions proves how bad the ending is.

[Shepard needs a Vacation]

DrowNoble wrote...

Well this issue is one of the many with The End of ME3. Liara and Garrus were my endgame squadmates. They were just with me on the tank when we wrecked but somehow 20 mins later they: got picked up by the Normandy (with Harbinger like 50 ft away), flew across the galaxy, got shot down and crash landed on an alien planet.

Seriously Bioware what were you thinking?

yeah like wtf bioware?

[Xellith]

Tell me more of "the shepard" DIE CHILD DIE!!!

[KainrycKarr]

Varus Torvyn wrote...

Seemed to me Joker was trying to outrun that wave from the Crucible.

By the relay. By himself. Away from the fleet. With the squadmates that were on earth that somehow magically teleported back aboard.

That kid forgot to mention the wormhole bit.

[Tapkomet]

Joker saw Space Magic coming and thought "No, I'm not going to be part of that mysterious space mystery stuff, and neither are my friends", so he took your squadmates and tried to escape. Didn't happen,though.

[Almostfaceman]

Varus Torvyn wrote...

Seemed to me Joker was trying to outrun that wave from the Crucible.

Why would he? The wave doesn't destroy ships.

Why would he desert Shepard? Joker would be flying around the Citadel talking to Shep and zeroing in on his location, then dropping teams to give him medical aid and help with the Illusive Man.

And why the Flock doesn't Shep radio for medical aid when Hackett calls him?

[I_Jedi]

I_Jedi wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard
got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually
still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have
been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with
the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The
relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers.
Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you
would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a
long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic
disorder.

I would sorta buy this out of desperation if it were not for the Stargazer grandpa bit.

I
have an explanation for that too. You see, Shepard started hearing
voices of the kid and his grandpa in his head. The epilogue takes place
when Shepard is in the mental hospital.

And yes, he does do this in the game. Don't forget those visions he had of the kid in that forest.

Xellith wrote...

Tell me more of "the shepard" DIE CHILD DIE!!!

This is shepard who's thinking that. see above.

[KingSnake661]

Not only was he flying, but, when did he pick up the rest of my team. EVERYONE was on earth before i went to the citidal... And, also, in ME lore, at trip between relays is INSTANT. As in, no time. It's IMPOSSIBLE for what the ending showed, being BETWEEN relays, there is no between with instant movement....

[Luvinn]

Varus Torvyn wrote...

Seemed to me Joker was trying to outrun that wave from the Crucible.

If the wave caught up to a ship that was in between relays, i doubt joker would have the reaction time to see it, say oh crap i better outrun it, and then leave. Talking faster than light speed after all!

[Wikkr]

amen op. Moving on from the fact that my entire team was scattered in the heavilly infested streets of london and tali was WITH ME when i made the run for the beam both edi and tali made it back onto the normandy in under 30 minutes and then instead of comming to help out on the citadel decided to try and run for it.

My team wouldnt do that. Tali certainly wouldnt have deserted love interest shep...

Blah i could go on but you all know what i mean. not one of the team shep had would have ran. not one. especially when the fate of the galaxy hangs in the balance

[Jaulen]

Karrie788 wrote...

Not to mention we're talking about a character who stayed onboard a half-destroyed ship at the beginning of ME2, hoping to save it.

Joker would never leave Shepard and the others behind. Him fleeing is completely out of character.

And the fact that we have to ask ourselves those questions proves how bad the ending is.

I just had a mind-fart of why Joker is taking off (don't ask me about the squad mates other than if the Normandy somehow all of a sudden got teleportation, I can't figure that out)

Joker resepcts Shepard, but Joker loved the Normandy, and Joker loves EDI, and EDI is the Normandy.....so he's proabbly thinking at that point "Shepard can handle themselves, I'm getting my LI outta here!"

Okay.....never mind.....becuase then adding in Hackets comment about your squad never leaving you and believing in you, and being willing to trust you to go through something like the Omega 4 relay....

It just makes no sense to me