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[The Angry One]

AntariuzX wrote...

Remember arrival from ME2? The blast destroyed the whole system. Joker was trying to outrun the blast (meaning blast destroyed solar system also).

He was in FTL relay transit when this happened.
That means he was already using a relay when the pulse fired.
That means he ran away BEFORE it was.

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

Tapkomet wrote...

Joker saw Space Magic coming and thought "No, I'm not going to be part of that mysterious space mystery stuff, and neither are my friends", so he took your squadmates and tried to escape. Didn't happen,though.

Joker we've been over this, you only run when the space magic is purple!

[BND88]

Dude, if you had a chance to run to a frelling paradise or hang around the apocalyptic wasteland known as Earth, what would you do?

[Troubleshooter11]

Joker "flees" with the Normandy in every ending right? As in also during the synthesis and control choices? Considering the soldiers on Earth were unaffected by the wave if the Crucible was properly build, and actually cheering and fistpumping, why the heck indeed would Joker need to run from the blast wave, and why would it damage the Normandy at all?

If it was ONLY in the Destruction ending, then it could be Joker trying to save the Normandy/EDI as she's synthetic and uses some Reaper code. But even then, EDI would probably slap Joker for thinking about running insted of trying to help Shepard. As would Liara and Garrus.

If it was a Normandy powered FTL flight then they couldnt not have reached another garden world like Earth that quickly, suggesting they were in mass relay transit, but again the relay would have been too far away and the travel-time in transit near-instantaneous. (Look at the Omega-4 relay video, it takes them several seconds in-transit before arriving. So it's not completely instant, just very short)

[hunt27]

BND88 wrote...

Dude, if you had a chance to run to a frelling paradise or hang around the apocalyptic wasteland known as Earth, what would you do?

I would fight to the end and would never leave my commander, knowing if we lose, all is lost anyway.... the part i don't get the most is after the beam hit why would my team mate that was charging with me end up on the Normandy when they should have been going up the beam with me...... oh wait because it's all indoctrination. which is why they show you still on earth and still alive..  and why do they all suddenly retreat saying everyone is dead when Anderson their admiral and Shepard are still alive and going up the beam, makes no sense they all said they only need a small team up there and that seems like a small team to me..

[Spectre 117]

I_Jedi wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard
got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually
still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have
been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with
the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The
relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers.
Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you
would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a
long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic
disorder.

I would sorta buy this out of desperation if it were not for the Stargazer grandpa bit.

I
have an explanation for that too. You see, Shepard started hearing
voices of the kid and his grandpa in his head. The epilogue takes place
when Shepard is in the mental hospital.

And yes, he does do this in the game. Don't forget those visions he had of the kid in that forest.

Xellith wrote...

Tell me more of "the shepard" DIE CHILD DIE!!!

This is shepard who's thinking that. see above.

Please let's not make ME the space Alan Wake<_<

[AntariuzX]

The Angry One wrote...

AntariuzX wrote...

Remember arrival from ME2? The blast destroyed the whole system. Joker was trying to outrun the blast (meaning blast destroyed solar system also).

He was in FTL relay transit when this happened.
That means he was already using a relay when the pulse fired.
That means he ran away BEFORE it was.

Normandy was in FTL, yes. But normandy can fly in FTL speeds without a relay.

[Knight Terror]

Did you guys notice how Joker is desperately hammering away the the Normandy's controls as he's flying away at FTL speed? He just realized the beta/test ending fired for everyone playing the game, and he's trying whatever means to fix it. The gigantic blast that is chasing him is 3.5 million souls screaming out in agony over what they just witnessed.

[Paulinius]

Why Joker, why? Wasn't dying to save you once not enough to satiate your bloodlust?

[The Angry One]

AntariuzX wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

AntariuzX wrote...

Remember arrival from ME2? The blast destroyed the whole system. Joker was trying to outrun the blast (meaning blast destroyed solar system also).

He was in FTL relay transit when this happened.
That means he was already using a relay when the pulse fired.
That means he ran away BEFORE it was.

Normandy was in FTL, yes. But normandy can fly in FTL speeds without a relay.

Why would the pulse be following them if they weren't in a transit tunnel?

Modifié par The Angry One, 13 mars 2012 - 12:21 .

[FarynUEA]

Thing is, Joker never knew what was going to happen. So the crucible/citadel powers up and Joker decides to run? Wouldnt Joker rather assume, Shepard did it, and would stick around to see what happens?

[Spectre 117]

The Angry One wrote...

AntariuzX wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

AntariuzX wrote...

Remember arrival from ME2? The blast destroyed the whole system. Joker was trying to outrun the blast (meaning blast destroyed solar system also).

He was in FTL relay transit when this happened.
That means he was already using a relay when the pulse fired.
That means he ran away BEFORE it was.

Normandy was in FTL, yes. But normandy can fly in FTL speeds without a relay.

Why would the pulse be following them if they weren't in a transit tunnel?

Well the only logical explanation is.....Ancient Aliens.

[blind black]

Paulinius wrote...

Why Joker, why? Wasn't dying to save you once not enough to satiate your bloodlust?

10/10 would reply again 

but seriously. wtf joker. HURR LET ME JUST FLY THE SHIP AND LEAVE SHEPARD BEHIND DURR.

[Uezurii]

FarynUEA wrote...

Thing is, Joker never knew what was going to happen. So the crucible/citadel powers up and Joker decides to run? Wouldnt Joker rather assume, Shepard did it, and would stick around to see what happens?

This. No one knows what the outcome is, and when the God child explains it to Shepard, he never contacts anyone about it. So no one besides Shepard and the God Child know what the choices do.
Meaning that Joker would indeed still be in the battle above Earth and should be there when the first explosion happens on the Citadel and would be too late to get to the Relay in time to use it, since the Crucible fires at it and destroys it.
Or is Joker psychic? There is space magic too after all.

[commanderkai]

He forgot his wallet in orbit around Horizon.

[ReachEtaruN74]

I_Jedi wrote...

I'll explain it to you:

Shepard got instantly indoctrinated after the beam hit. His team is actually still there, but Shepard thinks they're dead. The Reapers on Earth have been destroyed by the fleet. The fleet and the Normandy leave Earth with the exception of a small defense force to help Earth inhabitants. The relays exploding and the catalyst are visions created by the Reapers. Shepard's squad and the battle's survivors are still as fine as you would expect; however, Shepard will be in a rehabilitation center for a long time to help remove his indoctrination and post-traumatic disorder.

... Wait... so the reapers were destroyed by the fleet. Please think about that for a second. If the fleet was able to destroy the reapers, the entire game saying "we need the catalyst" or "we can't win through conventional means" was all BS. If it was possible to defeat the reapers, we should have just had an epic space battle cut screen with a "you win, good job" ending and the catalyst concept should have been entirely scrapped.

[Soaringeagle78]

How did the writers even come up with this?!

Modifié par Soaringeagle78, 13 mars 2012 - 12:46 .

[The Angry One]

At the start of the game, Reapers were decimating ill prepared fleets and ravaging planets.
By the end we were finding Reaper weak points and sending them straight to hell.
So yeah, why not a conventional battle?

[LeonRoughan]

He was trying to escape Bioware's bull**** endings.

[Rawgrim]

Joker never left. Thats just images in Shep`s head. Hoping his friends made it.

[Zered]

LeonRoughan wrote...

He was trying to escape Bioware's bull**** endings.

This just killed me

[K_nthan]

 Aaaargh, Biowaaare. Ok. I don't think this makes sense but the only thing I could come up with was EDI.  Could it have been EDI instead? She's got a relationship with Joker so she gives him top priority. When the battle got too intense, she 'panicked', turned around and tried to get Joker to safety maybe? Actually, after re-reading that, I'll stick with space magic. <_<

[The Angry One]

K_nthan wrote...

 Aaaargh, Biowaaare. Ok. I don't think this makes sense but the only thing I could come up with was EDI.  Could it have been EDI instead? She's got a relationship with Joker so she gives him top priority. When the battle got too intense, she 'panicked', turned around and tried to get Joker to safety maybe? Actually, after re-reading that, I'll stick with space magic. <_<

I refuse to believe EDI would do that either, and if that were the case Joker would be telling her to stop.
Regardless of the fact that Joker is clearly flying the ship.
And EVEN THEN if Joker and EDI were on some psychotic trist and wanted to get away, the next thing you'd logically see is the crew beating the tar out of them both for this.

How would any of them go along with this? How would Garrus? How would Kaidan/Ashley? How would Mr. "I will see the Reapers die" Javik!?

It just makes no sense! WHY DOES NONE OF IT MAKE ANY SENSE! WHY!!!

[Yuoaman]

Didn't happen. Seriously, how something so silly found it's way into the game I'll never know.

[WickedSP00N]

Joker would've pulverized himself into goo kamikaze-ing the Normandy after Shepard left. He would've "done his part" since for all they know they can assume Shepard wasn't coming back they all would have given their lives (especially Joker) for him and what he believed in. If he ended up alive, they would've died so retrieving him as well. I just don't understand the Normandy simply running away from a "fate of the galaxy" conflict.