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Why did Sovereign have to go through all that if the citadel itself was on his side?


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Harbinger of your Destiny

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So the citadel itself is sentient why did Soveriegn have to open to take control of it himself if he wanted to open the relay?

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GoblinSapper

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Space God works in mysterious ways.

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Cosmar

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 "Because it's part of the cycle."
Whatever the hell that means. <_<

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thesnake777

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A giant plot hole......

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John Locke N7

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the keepers dangit, THE KEEPERS!!!!

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The plot hole wasn't QUITE big enough to fly the Reaper fleet through.  That's why Soveriegn had to take control and expand it.<_<

Modifié par Grumpy Midget, 10 mars 2012 - 11:34 .


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Tapkomet

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A unicorn pony space wizard did that all.

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Superninfreak

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Space Magic.

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Nyaore

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Because it's pretty obvious the Guardian wasn't added into the story until the final hour. They literally did no back writing, no foreshadowing, and put hardly any effort into it's execution. When you throw stuff in that fast, there's bound to be holes. I'm still wondering what the hell they were thinking when they dropped the Dark Energy endings. Sure they weren't the best, but at least they were hinted at throughout the previous entries. Not to mention they didn't completely negate the events of ME1.

Modifié par Nyaore, 10 mars 2012 - 11:49 .


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Mass Effect 3: Space Jesus and Shepard's Acid Trip

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DthJk34

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Was it actually in control of the citadel or just living there, though? If it was in control, then that is a plot hole, but if it just resided there that is completely different.

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my reaction when he said that;

"then WTF did we need to stop Sovereign if your the freaking evil mastermind?".

i dont know, if anyone can explain the final part of ME3 let me know. 5 years of loving ME-universe. Bioware destroyed it in 1 hour :s.

"we can do prequals". yeah that sounds great, run and gun your ass off and know that in the future everything and everyone gets screwed regardless.

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I get it! The reaper's true intentions were to create a gigantic plot hole in Mass Effect universe through which they could escape to Star Wars.

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Cosmar wrote...

 "Because it's part of the cycle."
Whatever the hell that means. <_<


It means... that.

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Going to find that Shepard wakes up in Mass Effect 4 and all of Mass Effect 3 was a dream and also JR is alive again!

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Actually, there's no need to be this dismissive. It's easily explainable that the cycle isn't meant to go on forever. The cycle is meant to go on until a better solution comes up. It is basically a Litmus Test. Stand up to the test and show if you can change the game. Don't, and just get wiped out.

The fact that the reapers don't come and immediately destroy everything but that it instead happens over time leaves the kind of room for the test to take place in a remotely fair manner. The Protheans stood up for about a century or so struggling against fatality, and since they could not bring up anything but sheer armed resistance, they went the way of the dodo.

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balmyrian wrote...

Actually, there's no need to be this dismissive. It's easily explainable that the cycle isn't meant to go on forever. The cycle is meant to go on until a better solution comes up. It is basically a Litmus Test. Stand up to the test and show if you can change the game. Don't, and just get wiped out.

The fact that the reapers don't come and immediately destroy everything but that it instead happens over time leaves the kind of room for the test to take place in a remotely fair manner. The Protheans stood up for about a century or so struggling against fatality, and since they could not bring up anything but sheer armed resistance, they went the way of the dodo.


It would be cool if BioWare would explain it in this way. Since your are not them, this is just as valid as Tali mud wrestling fanfiction.

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balmyrian wrote...

Actually, there's no need to be this dismissive. It's easily explainable that the cycle isn't meant to go on forever. The cycle is meant to go on until a better solution comes up. It is basically a Litmus Test. Stand up to the test and show if you can change the game. Don't, and just get wiped out.

The fact that the reapers don't come and immediately destroy everything but that it instead happens over time leaves the kind of room for the test to take place in a remotely fair manner. The Protheans stood up for about a century or so struggling against fatality, and since they could not bring up anything but sheer armed resistance, they went the way of the dodo.

Just a minor correction, but it's referenced several times that it took them centuries to conquer the Protheans - not just one.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

balmyrian wrote...

Actually, there's no need to be this dismissive. It's easily explainable that the cycle isn't meant to go on forever. The cycle is meant to go on until a better solution comes up. It is basically a Litmus Test. Stand up to the test and show if you can change the game. Don't, and just get wiped out.

The fact that the reapers don't come and immediately destroy everything but that it instead happens over time leaves the kind of room for the test to take place in a remotely fair manner. The Protheans stood up for about a century or so struggling against fatality, and since they could not bring up anything but sheer armed resistance, they went the way of the dodo.


It would be cool if BioWare would explain it in this way. Since your are not them, this is just as valid as Tali mud wrestling fanfiction.


Which is now available as Day 4 $5 DLC! Enjoy!

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Lexagg wrote...

I get it! The reaper's true intentions were to create a gigantic plot hole in Mass Effect universe through which they could escape to Star Wars.



Why... The Reapers would finally get curbstomped in a full on fight with the Imperial Fleet!

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

balmyrian wrote...

Actually, there's no need to be this dismissive. It's easily explainable that the cycle isn't meant to go on forever. The cycle is meant to go on until a better solution comes up. It is basically a Litmus Test. Stand up to the test and show if you can change the game. Don't, and just get wiped out.

The fact that the reapers don't come and immediately destroy everything but that it instead happens over time leaves the kind of room for the test to take place in a remotely fair manner. The Protheans stood up for about a century or so struggling against fatality, and since they could not bring up anything but sheer armed resistance, they went the way of the dodo.


It would be cool if BioWare would explain it in this way. Since your are not them, this is just as valid as Tali mud wrestling fanfiction.


I understand and share your pain about the catastrophic ending. But you have absolutely no need nor position to be this rudely dismissive.

You may hate the ending as many of us do, but there is a logic to the cycle that is in fact quite clearly explained in the Space Kid scene. What I am saying here is just based on that logic.

Tali Mud Wrestling, however, has nothing to do with logic, it's as you say yourself got everything to do with fan fiction.

Modifié par balmyrian, 11 mars 2012 - 12:10 .


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Nyaore wrote...

Just a minor correction, but it's referenced several times that it took them centuries to conquer the Protheans - not just one.


Oops, thank you for the precision.

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Think of the stupid kid as a sort of judge. He's not going to help you or your opponent but just tells you who wins. The idiot did say that his solution failed, so he is not on the Reaper's side, rather the Reapers are just tools for his solution

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WarGriffin

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...Is there a shot the little Weasel option?

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simple really

http://www.oxmonline...they-went-along