33 réponses à ce sujet

[Pelle6666]

carlogz wrote...

He is part synthetic... and the implants given to him from the Lazarus Project made him strong enough... like EDI...Plus count the factors that he is Part Reaper now too..

The only way you can get the breath scene were Shepard is still alive is if you choose to kill all synthetic life. The synthetic parts of Shepards body would also have been destroyed, just like the reapers, Edi and the geth.

[ed87]

killnoob wrote...

Master Che wrote...

killnoob wrote...

Master Che wrote...

You all need to listen and read up on indoctrination theory. It's the only thing that can redeem what was presented.

i prefer Bioware Screw-Up theory, it simple, elegant, and explain everything as well...

I don't because it's dismissive, tends to be based on raw emotions and assumes that the company just threw their hands up on the ending after having spent millions of dollars on the franchise. 

It doesn't explain why they screwed it up and putting the entire franchise, which could still rake in huge money, at risk of jumping the shark.

you do realize that sometimes people/company do make unintentional mistakes right?

I know girls who are stuck in crappy relationships because they cant believe the guy that was so amazing at the start turned out to be so horrible. If anything, believing in the indoctrination theory because you cant fathom the idea of the writers you admire making a mistake is more of an emotional response than simply saying "look Bioware, you screwed up."

[Machazareel]

carlogz wrote...

He is part synthetic... and the implants given to him from the Lazarus Project made him strong enough... like EDI...Plus count the factors that he is Part Reaper now too..

He's still human, and thus still contains water in his body, which in the vacuum of space would evaporate and bloat him to up twice his normal size before eventually killing him. He would have to be hurled at an incredible momentum to re-enter the atmosphere before vacuum exposure proved lethal, but would then of course be subject to flat out disintegration upon re-entering the atmosphere.

Him being alive really doesn't make sense if one is to take the ending cinematics at face value.

[NM_Che56]

ed87 wrote...

killnoob wrote...

Master Che wrote...

killnoob wrote...

Master Che wrote...

You all need to listen and read up on indoctrination theory. It's the only thing that can redeem what was presented.

i prefer Bioware Screw-Up theory, it simple, elegant, and explain everything as well...

I don't because it's dismissive, tends to be based on raw emotions and assumes that the company just threw their hands up on the ending after having spent millions of dollars on the franchise. 

It doesn't explain why they screwed it up and putting the entire franchise, which could still rake in huge money, at risk of jumping the shark.

you do realize that sometimes people/company do make unintentional mistakes right?

I know girls who are stuck in crappy relationships because they cant believe the guy that was so amazing at the start turned out to be so horrible. If anything, believing in the indoctrination theory because you cant fathom the idea of the writers you admire making a mistake is more of an emotional response than simply saying "look Bioware, you screwed up."

Dismissive. 

What specifically about IT sounds so unplausible?  I haven't read one succesful argument as to why it can't be true.  It's not that I can't believe they could screw up.  It's just that I doubt they would do it so obviously.  Companies are always trying new things and to be innovative.  This would be pretty new and innovative for a video game and, if you actually consider it with an open mind instead of automatically going to the "oh, get the tin foil hats" thing, has support within the narrative.

Before you start trying to debunk it, let me point out this out: IT does not state he IS indoctrinated but that the reapers are trying to indoctrinate him.

[Nykara]

carlogz wrote...

He is part synthetic... and the implants given to him from the Lazarus Project made him strong enough... like EDI...Plus count the factors that he is Part Reaper now too..

You mean the same implants that ment Shepard was supposed to die with destroy according to the space kid who gave the options in the first place?

[Nightdragon8]

heh you know its kinda sad that the IT is even pluasable I mean with amount of Plot holes in the story you may as well make up your own story for the end.

[MrGuse]

Master Che wrote...

Dismissive.

Of course it's dismissive. How else do you counter wild speculation? 

[Xandurpein]

I think that what most people want is an intellectually and emotionally satisfying ending. That can certainly be achieved by an end with either a happy, bittersweet or possibly even quite sad tone, although a really sad/negative ending seems to break with the overall tone of the narrative.

[NM_Che56]

MrGuse wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Dismissive.

Of course it's dismissive. How else do you counter wild speculation? 

It's dismissive to call it "wild" speculation.  How is it wild?