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[MrAtomica]

Madecologist wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Actually ya, I do need to be more accurate.

ME1: Soveriegn acting like a murderous machine with free will

ME2: Harbinger acting like a murderous machine with free will

ME3: Army of reapers acting like murderous machines with free will

Final 5 minutes of ME3: lol, jk some kid is controlling the reapers on the citadel  /roll credits

Darn it... I haven't even considered that... I don't even know how to classify this one. The more I think about it the more I am getting displeased with the whole Guardian (Star Child) element of the ending.

Wait wait... oh no... no... if the Citadel houses the 'nexus' of the Reapers, why did it allow the Protheans of Ilos to modify the Keepers signal code so that Soveriegn's 'wake up' call to the Citadel wouldn't work?

As long as the Citadel merely remained as the nexus of the Mass Relay Network and a gateway to 'Dark Space', it made sense why the Ilos plan worked -and- why the Reapers need to protect it from getting the Crucible hooked up to it. But the minute you say the Citadel had a controlling conscienceness that is 'above' the Reapers... then the need to protect it still makes sense but... why did it let the Ilos Prothean modify it's operation... Doesn't have to stop them per say, just let them think they succeeded, they died off anyways.

oh... no... I should stop extrapolating here... because then I realised the Keeper are not needed for the activation of the Dark Space conduit. All they need to do is maintain the place (which they did) and the Guardian would send the trigger. It may or may not need a Vanguard, maybe the Guardian doesn't take an active roll and the Reapers don't know about it. So the Vanguard serves the same role it did before (keeping an eye on galactic civilization and then sending the signal when it is time), but the trigger would be recieved by the Guardian who would intiate the Dark Space conduit. The Keepers only being eternal janitors and maintainece crew.

It would be foolish to be an avatar of the Reapers Proginator and monitor their activities with absolutely no control over any of the systems of your most important component... no one would do that... oh... wait...

Great my opinion of the ending just got worst...

Different writers. Nuff said.

Seriously, there is NO logical reasoning to connect the divide here. The Reapers were presented as independent beings acting under some form of (maligned) free will. Turns out they're just a kid's remote controlled toy army.

[NukaRaider]

 So happy I am not the only one that hates the ME3 ending.. Everything was great ! The moments were emotional, and people went down in ways the made up for the fact I would not see them anymore. But this ending is just.. UHH.. makes me wanna pull my hair out.

[JohnCena94]

If they wanted to unite us they have, but we shall be the vanguard of their destruction. Seriously we need to stay united through hate, in the process we need to get change or boycott the next DLC. Keep in mind we need to stick together through the next few weeks ,and keep reminding them about how the ending is awful and they must fix it!

[Umbrellamage]

Mx_CN3 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

ME1: Soveriegn acting like a murderous machine with free will

ME2: Harbinger acting like a murderous machine with free will

ME3: lol, jk some kid is controlling the reapers on the citadel.

To be fair, most of ME3 definitely gave the impression that Reapers were still the murderous machines with free will.  If the last 5 minutes didn't exist, it would still be that way.  (This is what probably pissed me off the most about the endings, btw.)

Agreed.

It would make more sense for the reapers to have just been a dark space dwelling life that has to consume advanced civilizations to replicate.  They constructed the mass relays to speed up that advancement when a civilization crossed a certain threshold.  Instead they tried to go deep and philosophical in the last 5 minutes, and cheapened the ending.  The thing that gets me is that a trilogy like ME deserves an actual ending and not this deus ex cop out.

[JohnTSCC]

I just beat it and I don't know what just happen? I understood Shepard taking down Cerberus, the battle of Earth, and stoping the Illusive Man on the Citadel. after that what? I chose the blue path which means paragon right? I would appreciate if someone could PM the meaning of the ending!

[Spatchmo]

JohnTSCC wrote...

I just beat it and I don't know what just happen? I understood Shepard taking down Cerberus, the battle of Earth, and stoping the Illusive Man on the Citadel. after that what? I chose the blue path which means paragon right? I would appreciate if someone could PM the meaning of the ending!

I don't think there is a meaning, I am just going to keep telling myself the end was all just a dream or a hallucination caused by getting shot by a big reaper laser.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

I was just thinking about this very thing today...

I registered on BSN right when I got ME2, and in the little over 2 years since, I have NEVER seen it united like this.

[chairslayer]

Hey guys, be sure to like the FB group

http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

And follow the Twitter Feed

https://twitter.com/#!/RetakeME3

The faster we spread the word, the better chance we have of getting a response from Bioware.

[JohnCena94]

QuadDamage85 wrote...

You would have though Bioware would have learned a thing or two from Dragon Age 2, apparently not.

I was content with DA2. I am not with ME3.

[mattahraw]

I'm not one for BSN ragerants and complaing about ea or dlc.

I understand that devs do their best and have time and budget constraints. The dev team are actually really great and i really love when they take the time to interact on twitter and the boards.

But as someone who has spent years in this universe and this story.... The last few minutes left me pretty unsatisfied and sad.

I loved the game otherwise. But unfortunately the last 5 mins have somehow soured the whole thing. Leaves me sad because i love the franchise so much.

Modifié par mattahraw, 11 mars 2012 - 05:54 .

[SupR G]

Spatchmo wrote...

Seriously, it is kind of amusing the way these forums will have people that will argue about almost anything (not that there's anything wrong with argument / debating) but nearly every single person hates the end. Pages and pages of threads full of end hate.

I have faith that Bioware will make it right by us. It just sucks that we have to wait.

Oh, and I know Casey Hudson or whoever said Mass Effect 3 would be the end of Shepard's story, but I am attached to the character and his/her crew so I wouldn't mind a Mass Effect 4, or even a Mass Effect 3-2 starring Shepard as the protagonist... In the same vein as Final Fantasy X-2 but much, much less terrible than Final Fantasy X-2 was, preferably.

Do you honestly think they are going to re-write the entire ending? Man that's naive. It's there to stay, sad to say.

[Solduri]

SupR G wrote...

Spatchmo wrote...

Seriously, it is kind of amusing the way these forums will have people that will argue about almost anything (not that there's anything wrong with argument / debating) but nearly every single person hates the end. Pages and pages of threads full of end hate.

I have faith that Bioware will make it right by us. It just sucks that we have to wait.

Oh, and I know Casey Hudson or whoever said Mass Effect 3 would be the end of Shepard's story, but I am attached to the character and his/her crew so I wouldn't mind a Mass Effect 4, or even a Mass Effect 3-2 starring Shepard as the protagonist... In the same vein as Final Fantasy X-2 but much, much less terrible than Final Fantasy X-2 was, preferably.

Do you honestly think they are going to re-write the entire ending? Man that's naive. It's there to stay, sad to say.

two words "broken steel" 
look it up
hint: fallout 3

[Madecologist]

mattahraw wrote...

I loved the game otherwise. But unfortunately the last 5 mins have somehow soured the whole thing. Leaves me sad because i love the franchise so much.

Specifically the part of your post I quoted. I think this really does sum up why so many are so upset. Overall most people were pleased with the game up to this point (you obviously have criticism about other part of the game too but overall most people start their anti ending rants with "I really liked this game untill I reached the end..."), but once they reached it... the dismay begins.

For the lack of better terms, it is like having dramatic whiplash. The ending stands out as the sour note, and the more you pick at it, the more you realise the loose threads it has. Start pulling at them and the end unravels before you as a pile of messy strings.

[JamesYHT]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Bioware are the reapers and EA is the catalyst and BSN is shepard.

hahaha, well said