20 réponses à ce sujet

[ScooterPie88]

Two possibilites: they intend to release a DLC with the "real" endings or we are stuck with what we have.

Both of these options are pretty bad.  The first one releases a DLC with content that should've been in the game.  I don't pay $60 for a book and the last chapter isn't included the same goes for a video game.  Worse there is probably a significant amount of the community that is already lost because of these shenanigans.

Option two may even be worse.  If what is included is all they intend for the ending then their next franchise is going nowhere.  Bioware has built a name creating universes where you choices matter.  In the last 15 minutes of ME3 they threw all that away.

Maybe they are operating on the assumption that any press is good press but I disagree.  An overwhelming majority of the playerbase wants nothing to do with the game (and rightfully so).

[I Ryukage I]

I'm curious as well. Maybe a crazy amount of sales initially?? DA2 sold less than Origins (at least over a million copies less on 360 alone)

I'm VERY curious.

[Grumpy Midget]

More interesting would be the # of copies sold back to gamestop within the first few weeks.

[Evil_medved]

ScooterPie88 wrote...

Two possibilites: they intend to release a DLC with the "real" endings or we are stuck with what we have.

Both of these options are pretty bad.  The first one releases a DLC with content that should've been in the game.  I don't pay $60 for a book and the last chapter isn't included the same goes for a video game.  Worse there is probably a significant amount of the community that is already lost because of these shenanigans.

Option two may even be worse.  If what is included is all they intend for the ending then their next franchise is going nowhere.  Bioware has built a name creating universes where you choices matter.  In the last 15 minutes of ME3 they threw all that away.

Maybe they are operating on the assumption that any press is good press but I disagree.  An overwhelming majority of the playerbase wants nothing to do with the game (and rightfully so).

bethseda did it with Fallout 3 and got away just fine. <_<

[shnellegaming]

Only way we know that is to see how many people buy the next DLC if they don't fix the endings. Rest of the world just got it yesterday so we won't have a full count til the end of the week probably.

[GoblinSapper]

They've already sold 3.5 million copies. Business wise, they're doing fine.

[zr0iq]

They did screw up pretty badly:
First they make you feel bad about playing their game, then they leave you dissatisfied at the end. Please what? How are they expecting to make money on their next franchises?

I think I am going back to playing Alpha Protocol for SP. Were I actually do have a choice or a good illusion thereof.

[pomrink]

I read a few articles on forbes condemning their business practices. If these kind of thing happen again with them, us, as gamers, with have to take action against bioware. Hopefully voting with our wallets with give them the message,

[Almostfaceman]

There's already a precedent for changing a dreary nonsensical ending, and that's Fallout 3. I actually never replayed the game until I hear that dlc came out.

In general, it's not wise business practice to tick off your customers, so I think that pretty much covers that question.

[KorPhaeron]

GoblinSapper wrote...

They've already sold 3.5 million copies. Business wise, they're doing fine.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Stop that

They shipped to the stores, not sold.

[trifecta739]

If they don't address these complaints (since the complaints are coming from the majority) then they will lose a significant portion of their fanbase which will impact future sales. The best thing that can be done is to release free DLC with a new set of endings that give everyone the range we would've liked to see originally. I can understand if it is not free though, and would happily pay up to $20 for it if it meant fixing the series. It's rough but it can be solved. Paying for satisfying endings should not become a trend, but I can't foresee this situation being resolved with anything but DLC and EA will not allow free DLC so we're going to have to accept it as is. And if instead we get some "deal with it" statement on their behalf or basically anything other than a fix, they lose many of their long-time fans and future customers. It only makes sense for them to fix this so that this doesn't scar them.

[Dreogan]

It'll be just like DA2's launch: lots of copies sold the initial few weeks, then the sales fall off a cliff once the negative sentiment reaches a critical mass.

[Verkir]

Evil_medved wrote...

ScooterPie88 wrote...

Two possibilites: they intend to release a DLC with the "real" endings or we are stuck with what we have.

Both of these options are pretty bad.  The first one releases a DLC with content that should've been in the game.  I don't pay $60 for a book and the last chapter isn't included the same goes for a video game.  Worse there is probably a significant amount of the community that is already lost because of these shenanigans.

Option two may even be worse.  If what is included is all they intend for the ending then their next franchise is going nowhere.  Bioware has built a name creating universes where you choices matter.  In the last 15 minutes of ME3 they threw all that away.

Maybe they are operating on the assumption that any press is good press but I disagree.  An overwhelming majority of the playerbase wants nothing to do with the game (and rightfully so).

bethseda did it with Fallout 3 and got away just fine. <_<

yeah but the inital ending of Fallout 3 didn't come into your house bend you over a chair have at you for 12 hours then thank you for your time and expect another date to be arranged.

Fallout 3 atleast made some sense and made for kick ass heroic ending but it cut the game rather short.

[dave1904]

trifecta739 wrote...

If they don't address these complaints (since the complaints are coming from the majority) then they will lose a significant portion of their fanbase which will impact future sales. The best thing that can be done is to release free DLC with a new set of endings that give everyone the range we would've liked to see originally. I can understand if it is not free though, and would happily pay up to $20 for it if it meant fixing the series. It's rough but it can be solved. Paying for satisfying endings should not become a trend, but I can't foresee this situation being resolved with anything but DLC and EA will not allow free DLC so we're going to have to accept it as is. And if instead we get some "deal with it" statement on their behalf or basically anything other than a fix, they lose many of their long-time fans and future customers. It only makes sense for them to fix this so that this doesn't scar them.

I am stupid enough to pay but they better not because most people dont waste their money on an ending apologie dlc

[Ona Demonie]

3.5 million copies shipped, but not all have sold. I heard that there has been a huge rate of people turning in their ME3 copies and people are buying ME3 pre-owned.

[ScooterPie88]

Evil_medved wrote...

ScooterPie88 wrote...

Two possibilites: they intend to release a DLC with the "real" endings or we are stuck with what we have.

Both of these options are pretty bad.  The first one releases a DLC with content that should've been in the game.  I don't pay $60 for a book and the last chapter isn't included the same goes for a video game.  Worse there is probably a significant amount of the community that is already lost because of these shenanigans.

Option two may even be worse.  If what is included is all they intend for the ending then their next franchise is going nowhere.  Bioware has built a name creating universes where you choices matter.  In the last 15 minutes of ME3 they threw all that away.

Maybe they are operating on the assumption that any press is good press but I disagree.  An overwhelming majority of the playerbase wants nothing to do with the game (and rightfully so).

bethseda did it with Fallout 3 and got away just fine. <_<

Big difference you had one game worth of connection to the companions and they were for the most part boring.  That's a far cry from a trilogy which was built around characters that you interacted with and developed alongside.  You are comparing organges with worm ladden apples it makes no sense.

[Hellkite]

For the short run... Yes.

But the long run this may yet be detrimental. 

I for one hope for {Free fix} in the form an epilogue. it woul do a lot to mend this.
   

[Pyromatic Tabby]

Evil_medved wrote...

bethseda did it with Fallout 3 and got away just fine. <_<

Well, I'd rate FO3 original ending 'Unpleasant' to 'I wasn't expecting that', ME3 ending goes all the way to 'Bull****'.

[JimJohnJim]

They sold a lot of games, yes.. but the fans and some news outlets won't ever let them live this game down. In the future, the may even have to resort to saying "Don't worry guys, this wont be another Mass Effect" which is pretty bad... Unless they do... something, their reputation will defiantly have a huge gash on it that will take YEARS to heal, if ever.

[matthius299]

Mass Effect 3 sales won't be hurt at all, honestly it is a great game minus the ending. It deserves the excellent scores from the critics because overall it is a good game.But I have been a Bioware fanboy since Baldur's Gate. I own every game, including DA 2 witch I liked despite it's flaws and SWTOR despite swearing I would never play another MMO after a string of disappointments (Aion, Warhammer, AOC). The honest truth is, even after my initial anger and sorrow over the end of ME3 has lessened to a rational numbness, I can't see myself buying anything else Bioware produces. Maybe they will do something to change my opinion, but Bethesda is looking like my last great hope for RPGs.

Modifié par matthius299, 11 mars 2012 - 01:09 .

[Zeppex]

3.5mil shipped, but is that counting the digital sales on Origin? Cuz I would think they would make more money selling through Origin then through say gamestop. I donno how maker to store works. But each game costs ea 10 the disc itself and they ship to gamestop and they buy it for 45-50? then sale for 60, if it works anyway like that wouldn't them pushing Origin sale be ideal, no discs to make and you charge what a retailer would, so more money.