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The more I think about it, the more the endings make sense


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#51
eye basher

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Closure you stoped the reapers and broke the cycle that's what ME was about from the start.

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eye basher wrote...

Closure you stoped the reapers and broke the cycle that's what ME was about from the start.


Really? Because I thought it was also a character driven RPG, and no hint of closure was proffered toward that aspect of the game.

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Nineteen wrote...

I wouldn't say I'm defending it, per se, just trying to make sense of it in my own mind. And I'm doing it because that's all we've got. I love the rest of the series, and I'm trying to come to terms with the ending, instead of replacing it with headcanon. I do agree with you that the last 10 minutes don't quite fit with the rest of the game. Maybe that's why I'm trying to figure it out.


Well... I can respect that sir. I wish you the best of luck. I can neither accept it or headcanon it.... it just haunts me lol. I loved ME so much... ugh. 

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The more I think about it, the less sense the endings make. Can I have whatever you're having? 

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OP's sentiments are largely in line with mine. But I think the endings feel wrong simply because the final choice you have to make is one you are ill-equipped to make. You're not really told about the cycle, why it is needed, and almost no hint of this 'conflict' between synthetics and organics is dropped until Space-child-God drops it on your Shepard's sorry and injured bottom. There's simply not enough information given during the ending, or indeed during the whole game, about this cycle problem. I mean, I was kinda expecting Harbinger in there, and I was so tripped out with Space-child-God that I completely forgot which colour was which choice and just said to myself "To hell with this, middle beam here I come." And then everyone turned green.

Had we been given more info, been given a chance to argue further with Space-child-God about the merits of the lifeforms in this cycle, then perhaps it'd be clearer from the get go. But as it is, everyone's Shepards get a sackful dropped on them too quickly. I dunno, it's just unsatisfying.

I've said it time and time again, the ending's themes and issues isn't entirely illogical. The execution of it was pretty poor though. You're not left with any cathartic moment from where you can release all that emotion you've built up from the time someone died on Virmire to the end of ME3. I just felt confused at the end, and a little dazed that my Shepard has essentially become, er, Space-Jesus.

And how Liara survives when I took her and Garrus with me to the beam is just too much "Er wot?" for me. Gave up trying to rationalise that bit =P

I'm trying very hard to not let the ending/last 10mins taint what was, for me, an incredibly emotive and stunning experience (Thane's death is still bringing tears to my eyes, I'm such a wuss). No game has really ever reached that plain of emotions that ME3 managed to reach for me. So for it to just suddenly drop off a cliff was a bit disappointing. Good post OP, much appreciated.

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Dapper Pomegranate

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Dynomite15 wrote...

In mine when you are on the roof in London and call for a rescue he flies in and gets hit by something and crashes. Later Garrus says to me "Cortez WAS a great pilot" or something along those lines.

How do you stop him from dying?

Romance him? I don't know. In my playthrough, when he got hit Shepard yelled out "Steve!" (and did it so well. my heart stopped as I nervously clutched my pearls) but it is quickly established that he did not die. Then talking to him through the hologram later, Shepard was all "seeing you go down. I never want to feel like that again" and it was all touching and makes me super depressed when I then think of Shepard up and dying on Cortez....And it seems I've derailed myself. Anyway, perhaps you need near-max war assets? Or you have to help him get over Robert? Or maybe you actually do have to romance him? Though it would be odd if that were the only way to ensure he survived.

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well if what God child says is true then the Paragon choice (blue light) make no difference what so ever.....and the cycle have to continue, this time with Shepard as some sort of reaper energy thingy

Modifié par Rm80, 11 mars 2012 - 12:04 .