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[Archereon]

I've been seeing all this talk on these forums about how everyone's united in hatred of Mass Effect 3's endings, not just BSN, but a lot of other communities as well...

But I'm afraid that's simply not true.

All those polls and petitions that people have been holding up as evidence for this?

Even if we do not consider people voting in more than one poll, the total number of votes is less than 1% of Mass Effect's total purchasing base.

The ending will NOT be changed for our sake I'm afraid, though I wouldn't be surprised if it gets retconned or hand waved to make room for ME4; EA milks games until they're no longer profitable, and prequels really don't have much room to manuever with the endings being the way they are.

To the rest of the world, the people asking for the endings to be changed are a bunch of sad, basement dwelling, arrogant, entitled fanchildren riding on a mile high horse.

So that's it, the endings are here to stay until ME4 gets greenlit. Can we please move on to complaining about something else?

Edit: I do believe I was a bit unclear about this thread. I meant to say that the people actually calling for the ending to be changed by DLC/patch/retcon are the vocal minority, most players have simply accepted the endings and moved on, and are unlikely to purchase DLC that changes those endings simply because it offers them better endings.

Modifié par Archereon, 11 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[Tartilus]

Archereon wrote...

I've been seeing all this talk on these forums about how everyone's united in hatred of Mass Effect 3's endings, not just BSN, but a lot of other communities as well...

But I'm afraid that's simply not true.

All those polls and petitions that people have been holding up as evidence for this?

Even if we do not consider people voting in more than one poll, the total number of votes is less than 1% of Mass Effect's total purchasing base.

The ending will NOT be changed for our sake I'm afraid, though I wouldn't be surprised if it gets retconned or hand waved to make room for ME4; EA milks games until they're no longer profitable, and prequels really don't have much room to manuever with the endings being the way they are.

To the rest of the world, the people asking for the endings to be changed are a bunch of sad, basement dwelling, arrogant, entitled fanchildren riding on a mile high horse.

So that's it, the endings are here to stay until ME4 gets greenlit. Can we please move on to complaining about something else?

Your response to individuals drawing a conclusion from a limited and biased sampling is to draw the opposite conclusion from that same limited and biased sampling?

Modifié par Tartilus, 11 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[Archereon]

My response is based on how this community is regarded alongside 4chan as one of the most immature, entitled, and volatile places on the Internet. I've checked on other communities, and fans seem to have resigned themselves to the endings as they are, rather than trying something absolutely crazy like asking BioWare to retcon the endings.

[Aedan276]

I think the anger over the ending is pretty universal, if the response to Fallout 3 is any gauge. Aside from diminishing the significance of our choices in ME1 and ME2, even the choices of ME3 itself became totally irrelevant because of the ending. It's like a really bad conversation choice, except it envelops the entire series instead of just one isolated interaction/mission. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 11 mars 2012 - 02:03 .

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Tartilus wrote...

Archereon wrote...

I've been seeing all this talk on these forums about how everyone's united in hatred of Mass Effect 3's endings, not just BSN, but a lot of other communities as well...

But I'm afraid that's simply not true.

All those polls and petitions that people have been holding up as evidence for this?

Even if we do not consider people voting in more than one poll, the total number of votes is less than 1% of Mass Effect's total purchasing base.

The ending will NOT be changed for our sake I'm afraid, though I wouldn't be surprised if it gets retconned or hand waved to make room for ME4; EA milks games until they're no longer profitable, and prequels really don't have much room to manuever with the endings being the way they are.

To the rest of the world, the people asking for the endings to be changed are a bunch of sad, basement dwelling, arrogant, entitled fanchildren riding on a mile high horse.

So that's it, the endings are here to stay until ME4 gets greenlit. Can we please move on to complaining about something else?

Your response to individuals drawing a conclusion from a limited and biased sampling is to draw the opposite conclusion from that same limited and biased sampling?

We have a winner!

Basically, don't presume to know whether or not this is just a vocal minority. We don't know either way yet (game sales early on is not a good indication, especially since reviews never mention the ending at all, either way, which is rather telling).

[Dranume]

"To the rest of the world, the people asking for the endings to be changed are a bunch of sad, basement dwelling, arrogant, entitled fanchildren riding on a mile high horse."

this is a bad assumption to make, as with most of us have jobs, have families, have social lives.

[Sorayai]

I don't get why you are being so mean. so what if fans want a better ending?

the fact they are asking for it means they care about the series... it's not really being entitled.

we are human, we are allowed to have our opinions and voice them. you shouldn't say your opinion is worth more than ours ... that's just wrong.

I don't understand why it matters so much to you. if it's annoying, just ignore it. let people say what they want about the ending. there's no point in being so close-minded and mean about it. seriously.

[Gigerstreak]

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Gigerstreak, 11 mars 2012 - 02:02 .

[Chief Martini]

So you claim us to be a bunch of sad, basaement dwelling, arrogant, entitled fanchildren riding on mile-high horses while you apparently represent Bioware and make their decisions for them, whereas we state our opinions and are emotionally attached to the game, thus wishing for a proper ending. So far even Bioware personell stated they're listening.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Archereon wrote...

My response is based on how this community is regarded alongside 4chan as one of the most immature, entitled, and volatile places on the Internet. I've checked on other communities, and fans seem to have resigned themselves to the endings as they are, rather than trying something absolutely crazy like asking BioWare to retcon the endings.

Gee, so fans in other communities are just as dissapointed and disillusioned as we are? That's a pretty damning fact.

The difference is that we're on the official forums, and the devs read and respond, so we're trying to actually make a difference and raise hell.

[Megaolix]

I'm starting to wonder if Bioware started to try propaganda here to calm the players. There's an influx of threads trying to be supportive of the endings all of a sudden.

Modifié par Megaolix, 11 mars 2012 - 02:03 .

[malkuth74]

Blah Blah.. Let the people speak...

Let them talk...

Let them be free...

Go play COD.

[Lexagg]

Archereon wrote...

Even if we do not consider people voting in more than one poll, the total number of votes is less than 1% of Mass Effect's total purchasing base.

Which is a statistically significant sample size. So no, we aren't.

[Aedan276]

Megaolix wrote...

I'm starting to wonder if Bioware started to try propaganda here to calm the players. There's an influx of threads trying to be supportive of the endings all of a sudden.

I'm wondering a lot of things about Bioware. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 11 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[Archereon]

Gigerstreak wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

And that is what the rest of the Internet sees you as.


I don't presume to judge about anyone doing something crazy like asking for a new ending for this game, I'm just pointing out that the vast, vast, majority of the Internet seems to have accepted the endings for what they are (bad), and moved on, rather than putting up such a huge resistance to them.

[Cosmar]

OP. Everyone = most people who regularly post on these boards. I was and am not under any illusions that I and these others are not in the minority. Which is why I'm depressed in the knowledge that BW will ignore us.

[AlexXIV]

You assume that the silent majority does not agree with this vocal minority. Just because they are silent doesn't tell what they feel about it. Maybe they don't care, or mind, or whatever. But considering how many different people on the BSN think the same thing lifts the chances that we are not the only ones tbh.

[Archereon]

Lexagg wrote...

Archereon wrote...

Even if we do not consider people voting in more than one poll, the total number of votes is less than 1% of Mass Effect's total purchasing base.

Which is a statistically significant sample size. So no, we aren't.

This is not a statistically significant forum. Hell, I'd rate this forum worse than /v/ in terms of its credibility and how representitive it is of the overall consumer base.

I'd estimate less than .05% of the acutal consumer base is represnted in these polls (and that said .05% is the most fanatical and arguably unreasonable demograph in the consumer base), considering double voting and voting on multiple polls.

Modifié par Archereon, 11 mars 2012 - 02:07 .

[Militarized]

IT'S INDOCTRINATION! COVER YOUR EARS or... wtf do you do to combat indoctrination?

[Aedan276]

Archereon wrote...

Gigerstreak wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

And that is what the rest of the Internet sees you as.


I don't presume to judge about anyone doing something crazy like asking for a new ending for this game, I'm just pointing out that the vast, vast, majority of the Internet seems to have accepted the endings for what they are (bad), and moved on, rather than putting up such a huge resistance to them.

Obviously most people won't actively petititon to alter a game's ending. 

Anyway, the fact the fans of Fallout 3 successfully bartered for Broken Steel undermines your argument. Events with historical precedent aren't 'crazy', they're economic facts. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 11 mars 2012 - 02:07 .

[Archereon]

Indeed, and that's why it won't be changed.

[eternalYouth304]

Megaolix wrote...

I'm starting to wonder if Bioware started to try propaganda here to calm the players. There's an influx of threads trying to be supportive of the endings all of a sudden.

i've noticed that as well.  i guess it could be from more people completing the game and giving their opinion.... hard to say, but considering the numbers we're seeing it doesn't seem likely.

[Goose1004]

Gigerstreak wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

I prefer this one

 

[kbct]

Archereon, you're not gonna stop the flood of discontent. Don't you know that?