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[hawat333]

Nah, we just have a bunch of... whiners, let's say, who can't settle with an ending that's not all sunshine and bunnies and would go any length to undermine the game's reputation.

[Farbautisonn]

hawat333 wrote...

Nah, we just have a bunch of... whiners, let's say, who can't settle with an ending that's not all sunshine and bunnies and would go any length to undermine the game's reputation.

-Riddle me this: what happens if a Mass Relay explodes? 

[Clayless]

You should never base your opinion on something by listening to the opinions of others.

Decide for yourself.

[Farbautisonn]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

You should never base your opinion on something by listening to the opinions of others.

Decide for yourself.

-This is too hilarious...

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

hawat333 wrote...
Nah, we just have a bunch of... whiners, let's say, who can't settle with an ending that's not all sunshine and bunnies and would go any length to undermine the game's reputation.

Yeah, cannot be able to affect the ending and getting illogical auto-game over ending is so good.
Like some already said you cannot play your Shepard, it just have worst effect on the ending that on the rest of your game.

[AkiKishi]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

You should never base your opinion on something by listening to the opinions of others.

Decide for yourself.

Unless you have the ability to return the game , that would be kinda stupid. Like eating a cake that might be poisoned, just to see if it is.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 11 mars 2012 - 01:17 .

[loungeshep]

Oh god no, regardless of the end, this game is still better than da2

[Weskerr]

DanEzra633 wrote...

Professional Reviews: 92/100
User reviews: 3.2/10

I bought Dragon Age 2 based on how much I enjoyed the previous game, its DLCs, and strong reviews. After the disappointment of that game, I lost faith in 'professional' game reviews.

I'm looking forward to this game, but based on the above scores it looks like there's a real danger of repeating disappointment, inflated reviews, and cut corners. Is this the case with ME3?

From what I've been reading and hearing, most people loved the game until the last 10 minutes of it. I don't understand the justification of giving a game a bad score only because the conclusion was bad while everything else was outstanding. (I played the demo and thought the introduction was terrible, but that's neither here nor there).

[harrier25699]

The game overall is excellent, however the ending of the series, as a matter of individual opionion, is complete crap and massive anticlimax. Get the game and make up your own mind.

[SmellyMetal]

"Yeah, I agree that user reviews are much more honest"

Yes, user reviews are honest...

Just like the 0/10's I just saw on Metacritic, just because "the end is awful"

/facepalm

I'm reading the 0/10 user reviews and can't believe what I'm reading...This is the only time I'll be ignoring user reviews. METACRITIC has a serious problem.

You can hate the ending, you can hate the fact that there is a DLC, but there is NO WAY this game deserves a 0, or even a 3/10

[kbct]

A 0 rating is justifiable if the ending makes you NOT want to replay ME1, ME2, or ME3.

[steeto1979]

I'm new, but have been playing ME games religiously for the last years. Thought I'd contribute, based on what little time I've spent with ME3 so far, and in light of all the "it's more a shooter than an RPG" comments.

I'm actually of the opinion that this game is closer in feel to ME1, and therefore, has much more depth than ME2. I think, that while it's certainly not a bonafide RPG, it certainly takes it's lead from the first game more than the second; more customisation options and a heavy log of sidequests = yay. What it lifts from ME2 is improved combat and pacier mission structure. So far, so darn good. I don't think the dialogue scenes have been dumbed down noticeably, i've had plenty of conversations where i've had the opportunity to select the "investigate" option, but there are a LOT of NPCs who you cannot interact with. Just like in, say, ME1 or ME2.

My main criticisms (setting aside the From Ashes/face import controversies, although both are disappointing) concern the inadequacies of the game engine. The textures are improved here and there, but it runs a lot less smoothly than the last iteration. The in-game cut-scenes are marred by jerkiness and frame-rate problems. It's a fast and smooth game during combat, but when you hit those important story scenes, it stutters and disappoints. There is also a problem with quest-tracking. I cannot think of why they decided to redesign the quest logs. The entries are all listed in one column, and it soon piles up and becomes daunting, as a lot of quests time out.

ME1 is one of my all-time favourites. It's also the buggiest game i've ever played.

[Nilofeliu]

As many have said before, the low ratings are basically a way to protest about Bioware's poor job on the game. If I was looking at a stand alone game, I would rate it a solid 8 before the ending. If I consider how it ended it would be a 5.

However, this game is not a stand alone game. It is supposed to be the final chapter of a great saga. It was meant to bring us the answers ans solutions we have been looking for the past 5 years, since Mass Effect was launched in 2007.

Also, I can't phantom why the critics have given an average 8.5/10 to the original Mass Effect and much higher scores to the followups. The first game wa a genre breaking one. It brought new concepts of RPG elements into PC gaming and to those of us who enjoy a good role playing game, it was great. I know it had bugs and the combat system was not perfect, but that was not the game focus. On ME2 the focus shifted to a more action oriented system, but at least many of the rpg elements from ME1 remained.

Now, on ME3, they are just gone. People usually mistake conversations with RPG. They are not the same, especially when you have no control over the conversations. I agree that ME3 looks beautiful, and I had some fun playing it. I really enjoyed how walking around you would learn things and get new missions, or just watch your squadmates talking to each other. The atmosphere was immersive and you felt like you belong in a general way.

However, on the other hand, as the play progessed I came to realise more and more that the Sheppard I was playing was not MY Sheppard. The choices I had made on the previous games didn't matter, such as choosing Anderson as Council member and just watching Udina in ME3 without any proper explanation. I chose Ashley as my LI in my main save, and imported it all the way to ME3. I must say I found it weird when Liara made a pass on me... And those are just a couple of the main examples.

Comparing ME3 to DA2, both were failures because they cared more about making money than they care about player's entertainment. They also followed similar rules, such as a directed and overall controlled story line, instead of the freedom of choice from the original games. But at least for me, ME3 is far worse than DA2 for one simple reason, I can still go back and play DA:O. The same doesn't happen on the Mass Effect universe, since we now know that every choice we made through the games are irrelevant. I can't even get myself to play my other imports, since the endings are basically all the same, why bother?

Bioware/EA managed to cheat me out of the replay value the series offered me. I've lost count of how many hours I played both ME1 and ME2, but all that is meaningless to me now. I just makes me feel worse for investing my time in a game that just doesn't add up. As the game stands, a final chapter for a wonderful saga, I cannot in good conscience rate it any thigher than 0, for it destroyed all the games for me.

So, back on topic, and sorry for my rantings, it's hard to accept the professional reviews when they take a flawed game and rate it a 9. They have done that for evey major title, and there are rumors saying that these critics are somehow forced into giving these games higher scores than the deserved ones. After watching hwhere the gaming industry is heading, I don't find it hard to believe these rumors.

Modifié par Nilofeliu, 11 mars 2012 - 02:07 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Metacritic user scores are like turds floating in the sea meaning something to avoid.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2012 - 02:11 .

[SalsaDMA]

Niddy' wrote...

"Professional Review" more like paid review.

Well... Technically, to be a professional means to get paid for it, so.. yeah....

[Iamnotahater]

For me it wasn't just the ending.

1. This game has serious Technical problems
-non-syncing dialogue
-Stuck characters
-Buggy quests
-Bad textures
-random crashes

2. Major Plot holes
-Don't want to get too much into them (spoilers) they have already been discussed ad nasuem

3. Forced Multi-player
-Lied about getting the perfect ending without MP
-Effort to make more money (decrease used game sales)
-Bland and uninspiring
-Broken with rampant cheating

4. Romance
-Imported save not always accurate
-Gay propaganda added.
-Romances seem to be written through the lens of a 12 year girl. Not the intended audience of gaming males. Sheppard is the supposed hero and most eligible bachelor in the known universe yet he gets strung along every step of the way and in the face of reaper annihilation has to fully commit to one of the them in order to get some.

5. Styling
-Like the menu and other interface upgrades
-Hate the new Micheal Bay like explosion interactive movie atmosphere. Especially having to chase the kid...
-Ship was hard to navigate at first. Characters moved around from Mass Effect 2 for no apparent reason.

6. Gameplay
-No maps of planets suck. Sometimes (often) when exploring the map for mods I forgot where I was and where I needed to go.
-Planet Scanning more broken then ever. Randomness of finding assets totally removed even shows the "percentage" at the top. Can't buy maps for planets but by some magical force you are innately aware when you have all the items from a given system. Thanks Bioware.
-Cover system completely broken. Be prepared to die often because of bad controls.

7. Ending
-All endings suck. Makes me never want to play Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 again

All that for me adds up to a 5/10 and 6/10. While it may not be the 1 and 0's that other reviewers have given (I believe that these scores should be reserved for games which are fundamentally broken see Big Rigs: Over the Road racing) .

Which is what you'll find when dealing with user reviews. They may have had the same bad experience but since you are dealing with a personal scale the resulting score might be higher/lower.

I think when looking at user reviews whats most important when seeing the low score is reading the comments and seeing what influenced the low score and if that would ruin/negatively impact your own gaming experience.

Modifié par Iamnotahater, 11 mars 2012 - 02:43 .

[Shinobu]

ME3 outclasses DA2 in EVERY respect. The first 97% is AMAZING. 9.5/10. (I'd give DA2 a 6/10.)

The last 3% is a place you don't want to go. Like DA2, the adage "it's not the destination that matters, it's the journey" doesn't hold true. That's the only similarity.

Take how you felt about the end of DA2. Multiply by 1000X.

[weremutt]

The game is good but it has a lot of auto dialogue and not very many conversation choices. It is not really something I liked, but game play wise it is a good game.

[rkp1]

 I gave it a ZERO on Metacritic.

Don't ship a broken game.

[ShadyKat]

I love how people claim that sites like ign and Gamespot are paid off, yet there is no proof of this happening. Yet people have openly admitted to trolling on Meta Critic. Yet people trust Meta Critic more?




Play the game yourself, and form your own opinion. I for one thought that ME3 was the best game of the trilogy. The ending was lame, but the rest of the game was spot on.

[cljqnsnyc]

If the game makes you so upset that it renders both ME1 and ME2 either pointless and/or unplayable, how could I possibly be convinced to buy ME3 knowing what's in store?

[glacier1701]

The whole point of the series was that it was all about YOUR Shepard and YOUR choices yet at the end it all seemed pointless as a flawed illogical reasoning was used to 'justify' everything that had occured over the whole series. Quite frankly it seems as for the writing of the last 10 minutes or so of the game BioWare left the building and let some monkeys type up something. There was no satisfactory closure and after the stellar writing of the whole of ME3 up until those last minutes it comes as quite a shock. I know that after I got to the end I sat stunned for a few minutes trying to figure out how what had just seen made sense and I cannot see any. So IF I had to rate the game I'd say that it needs to be split up - everything until the end 9/10 but the ending can only muster 1/10 and thats being charitable.

 Oh and as to the original intent of the thread - its not another DA2 - the game just fails in a completely different way.

Modifié par glacier1701, 11 mars 2012 - 04:13 .

[Gigamantis]

The low scores are because people didn't like that all of your decisions don't have a drastic impact on the ending of the game. If you were only interested in the ending, like a lot of people here apparently were, than just look it up and save yourself some money.

If you enjoy actually playing games then ME3 is a great one. Likely going to be a GOTY contender.

[Dansayshi]

DA2 was genuinely garbage and completely ruined a promising franchise.

ME3 is pretty good though, parts of the script and writing are absolutely appauling though, including the ending. But its still a solid game.

[submarinex1]

rkp1 wrote...

 I gave it a ZERO on Metacritic.

Don't ship a broken game.

and that will mean what to people, no one cars if people give it a 0 you look at forums and metacritc you can work out genuine posts and plenty more useful sources around.

Modifié par submarinex1, 11 mars 2012 - 04:38 .