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[dragonflight288]

I watched the Dark Knight. lol.

[TEWR]

I'm having two feelings right now:




and....

[dragonflight288]

lol.

[DPSSOC]

Nizaris1 wrote...
You guys just cannot accept the fact that DA:O is actually a broken mess game.

 
And you cannot accept that you don't actually know what that word means.  Were the game broken in all the areas you claimed it wouldn't be playable, nobody would ever be able to finish it.  It's flawed certainly but broken is something completely different.

Nizaris1 wrote...
It is because you guys don't enjoy the later one so you guys just up to defend the first one even though it is a broken mess.

Who says we don't enjoy DA2?  I find DA2 to be more flawed than DA:O, but that's partly because the game was rushed out.

Nizaris1 wrote...
And what you guys really enjoy in DA:O is not the game, really, you guys just love the sex, the story isn't great either, just sex

I don't even... no, just no.  I enjoy the characters in DA:O which is usually my favourite part of any Bioware RPG.  The story is interesting (if cliche), the world's engaging, and I really feel like I'm accomplishing something as I go along.  This can't be said for DA2 where I accomplish nothing, I'm never given any reason to become invested in the world, and I'm thrust into problem after problem my character realistically shouldn't give a crap about.  That's why I enjoy DA:O, flaws and all, more than DA2; DA:O gave me motivation.  I had a reason to stop the Blight for every character, even just simple self interest.  DA2 only motivates a Hawke who is, for some reason, attached to Kirkwall, and I never developed that attachment.  Honestly for most of my characters the game should have ended after Act 1, complete the expedition, get rich, move back to Fereldan, buy a big house.

[Urzon]

Remember the advice of the wise old Chinese man, "Don't feed the trolls after midnight..."

Modifié par Urzon, 19 mars 2012 - 11:49 .

[DPSSOC]

Nizaris1 wrote...
@DPSSOC

The game is broken, do you forgot all the complains on the vanilla game? Do you forget how hard players going through the game when it released? Yes you forget because you now play with mods, patches and DLCs.

I played the vanilla game for the better part of a year where I had no internet connection, I had no issues.  Now maybe I just got lucky but that's how it stands.  Also 360 so no mods.

Nizaris1 wrote...
Without these things the game is unplayable. There are countless broken things in it, just look at bug fix mods and patches notes. Look at new things DLC add. Without it the game totally broken.

Obviously not I completed it twice before ever so much as patching the damn thing.

Nizaris1 wrote...
You and others forget it all, you guys give praise on something that have been covered in latest version, i complain the first release, you guys talking about latest version.

 
Ok so we should judge cars, not by present models, but by the original design of each model?  Yes we judge it by the latest version because Bioware took steps to fix problems.  If you look at the vanilla game you're going to end up complaining about problems that don't exist anymore.  Maybe the vanilla version was broken, it's been fixed, we then evaluate the game based on how well that fix worked.

Nizaris1 wrote...
Just look at You Tube, forums, not just here in Bioware own forum, look at other forums people complains about this game. Look at Lets Play on You Tube, Lets Play on Something Awful forum, Dragon Age have a lot of complains than any other games in game industry.

And Bioware keep getting wrong feed back from guys like you and now Bioware name is lowest from any game company because of their recent games...SWTOR and Mass Effect 3

If DA2 wasn't a clear indication that Bioware isn't listening to people like me I don't know what is.  Everything I enjoyed about DA:O was thrown out the window, lit on fire, and shot for good measure.  Bioware's recent stumbles stem from the fact they are trying new things to get out of their niche market, and RPG's are a niche.  Any time you try new things you run the risk of screwing up.  Bioware is not going to crumble as a company because some of their fans have patience.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Why are you even bothering DPSSOC? If Nizaris1 isn't trolling, he is deadset on disliking DA:O, if he is trolling, you are just feeding his vanity.

[DPSSOC]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Why are you even bothering DPSSOC? If Nizaris1 isn't trolling, he is deadset on disliking DA:O, if he is trolling, you are just feeding his vanity.

I know, I know.  I suppose I'm just holding on to a fool's hope that with enough persistence I can teach him what broken actually means.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Sometimes I think they should add "abbandon all hope" in the terms of aggreement to use this forum... 

Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 20 mars 2012 - 01:04 .

[dragonflight288]

For once, I agree with you Emperor. lol.

[TiaraBlade]

I will admit that DA:O reused a great deal of traditional fantasy tropes but those tropes are popular for a reason. I think that we all liked the big quest, decision points, and the traditional strong characters and story that Bioware is known for.

That noted, I like that Bioware tried something different for DA2; it didn't work but the attempt was noble and worthwhile; might have worked in fact with more time and resources.

[Mallgore]

TiaraBlade wrote...

I will admit that DA:O reused a great deal of traditional fantasy tropes but those tropes are popular for a reason. I think that we all liked the big quest, decision points, and the traditional strong characters and story that Bioware is known for.

That noted, I like that Bioware tried something different for DA2; it didn't work but the attempt was noble and worthwhile; might have worked in fact with more time and resources.

Thats fair.

I guess my OP was filled with too much rage. I just want something more and i see now that i am never going to get it. Sorry if i came off as a troll.

[Askia32]

For me, the story of DAO was boring. From the beginning, you're told that you must kill the archdemon. To do so, you have to grab the armies and go to town on the darkspawn. Meaning, it felt like my character was just simply playing a role. If he wasn't there, than someone else would be playing that role. The blight happens over and over, and this time my character gets to end it.

The twist, was that whoever kills the Archdemon dies. This was the first time in the entire game that I felt a little shocked, even though it was hinted. Than, soon after, the Warden gets a convenient cop-out. Make love to a sexy witch, and you get to live. A deal that makes you feel stupid if you don't take it

Some may feel that I'm over simplifying the game, but honestly, this is how it felt to me while playing. I probably shouldn't even be going this deep into the matter because it seems like a lot of people on these forums take "offence" to even the slightest negative comment about DAO.

Honestly, I don't care that much if my Warden appears in more games or not.  He played his part and the next Warden/s will be there for the next blight.  Even though DA2 wasn't the greatest game either, I still feel more invested in Hawke.  I was taken through a journey of his and her life, and already miss the fact that my time with playing with them, is over.  Especially when it seems like their influence is still needed.  

Modifié par Askia32, 09 avril 2012 - 07:00 .

[Asch Lavigne]

I liked Origins' companions far better and that went a long way in making me like Orgins over 2.

Yes, Origins' story was a simple, there's the bad guy go get him. However, all the little stories that made up that story (meaning all the things that went on with each army you had to recruit) fleshed out the world, races and the characters well. I thought it was a good introduction to the DA world. 2 was set in Kirkwall the whole time and felt like a different universe almost. I wonder if it would've been better if 2 took place throughout the whole Free Marches instead. 2 had a better plot but it was executed poorly. I also felt that the whole Qunari thing was pointless. I get it helped Hawke to become the Champion but in a story about mages and templars it felt like they were trying to do two plots in one game and should've stuck to one.

And just because it's my #1 reason why Origins is better than 2: Morrigan.

[rolson00]

the origin storys are much much longer than da2s prologue? at least you get to know them first its not like oh my brother/sister has been kill then "why hello flemith how do you do, im smashing although these darkspawn fellows arn't very sporting"

[Kail Ashton]

Only the DLC recycled stages in origins and the plot didn't fall apart at the final act?

Course origins is one of the ugliest games i've ever played, truely a last gen port abomination, if bioware didn't slap a coat of current gen paint on a last gen game and tried to market it as new, i'd be very shocked and everyone who worked on the visuals should be fired, out of a canon, into the sun

Truely, truely a hideous looking game, it's the kind of thing a 5 year old would draw and as a parent you dred putting it on your fridge so others can see it, this is the type of embaressment bioware should've felt releasing origins

But i could go on forever about the visual travesty that was origins, otherwise it's pretty good, thus the general hipster support it gets, in reality however both games are mediocre with snappy writting & a combat system ripped off from the vastly more succusful Final Fantasy XII (where bioware gets it's voice talent from too apparantly)

[Urzon]

Kail Ashton wrote...

But i could go on forever about the visual travesty that was origins, otherwise it's pretty good, thus the general hipster support it gets, in reality however both games are mediocre with snappy writting & a combat system ripped off from the vastly more succusful Final Fantasy XII (where bioware gets it's voice talent from too apparantly)

The only reason FFXII was succusful was solely because it was a Final Fantasy game, same goes with FFXIII.  While the graphics in DAO did belong in a PS2, the writing more than made up for it. That can't be said for the Final Fantasy series though. If you played a single Final Fantasy game, you basically get the gist of the storyling of every single game they have. I might have enjoyed those kinds of stories when i was younger, but all they seem to do now is bore me to tears.

Not mention, made me waste 60$ on a game series i only stick to because of loyalty. Which is running out very quickly.

Modifié par Urzon, 09 avril 2012 - 12:27 .

[TEWR]

FFXII is amazing.

[esper]

FFXII, made me give up on the series.

[r3dKrypt0nite]

From Origins to DA 2, let's see...

Combat was dumbed down.
Leveling was dumbed down.
Innovatory was dumbed down.
Skills and talents were dumbed down.
Player conversations were dumbed down.