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coldlogic82

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Literally.

And I can't line up a shot for crap.

I'm not blaming vanguard players, but it would be nice if maybe the whole screen didn't shake for every player within 50 miles of a vanguard every time they sneezed. 

Anotherwords, any hope for a shorter "area" of disturbance in the future?

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Cyonan

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I played a match earlier today where it was me(Salarian Infiltrator) and 3 Vanguards.

I'm amazed that I was able to actually hit anything.

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mysticforce42

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Don't follow Vanguards around if you can help it. On some maps that's easier said than done, but that's what you have to live with sometimes.

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BloodClaw95

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The "RAWR" you hear all over the place from their Novas has slipped into my nightmares.

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RaikonHawke

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lol it dont matter everyone gets same xp and creds i embrace them dont have to do much

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What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?

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Maria Caliban

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AdamTaylor wrote...

What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?

Max Charge. Max Nova. Grab the fourth Soldier talent that increases the weight you can hold.

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AdamTaylor wrote...

What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?


If you elect to be an Asari Vanguard, your heavy melee is now your Nova. Has some drawbacks, but also advantages.

In other words:

Heavy risk.
But the priiiiiize.

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Cyonan wrote...

I played a match earlier today where it was me(Salarian Infiltrator) and 3 Vanguards.

I'm amazed that I was able to actually hit anything.


Games with 3 or 4 Vanguards that are decent at the game are hilarious against Cerberus and Geth. 

... but then you get Reapers and everybody goes 'Awww, Banshees.  We're screwed.'

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Knight_Quack

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Just had a game with 3 vanguards, 1 human, 1 drell and I was asari. Rounding up was a Quarian Infiltrators. Funniest game I ever had, nothing like charging a geth prime.

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Jaron Oberyn

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Asari Vanguard = winning. We don't have Nova :P

-Polite

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KelbornX

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As an Human Engineer... I can at least get off Overload (triple chain on my human female) while the Vanguard's are charging. XD

Just played a game with 2 Vanguards and a Sentinel... pretty much just spammed Overload and my Combat Drone the whole time. I don't think I actually managed to shoot a single enemy...

So many good Vanguard players in my games...  and I'm so terrible with them.  :(  

Modifié par KelbornX, 11 mars 2012 - 06:40 .


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PapVogel

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Worst thing about vanguards is the apparent IQ it takes to play one, alot of vanguards are so used to owning up the place and getting all the kills, that yesterday, on 3 occasions, i had vanguards ragequit my game when they saw that the lvl 6 quarian infiltrator was getting more points than them... I mean...c'mon its a bloody coop game!

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coldlogic82 wrote...

Literally.

And I can't line up a shot for crap.

I'm not blaming vanguard players, but it would be nice if maybe the whole screen didn't shake for every player within 50 miles of a vanguard every time they sneezed. 

Anotherwords, any hope for a shorter "area" of disturbance in the future?


http://social.biowar...3/index/9719370  :D

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Maria Caliban wrote...

AdamTaylor wrote...

What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?

Max Charge. Max Nova. Grab the fourth Soldier talent that increases the weight you can hold.


Which skills you should take?  I have points to use but I'm not sure if increasing damage is better than being able to hit two extra guys, for example.

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PapVogel wrote...

Worst thing about vanguards is the apparent IQ it takes to play one, alot of vanguards are so used to owning up the place and getting all the kills, that yesterday, on 3 occasions, i had vanguards ragequit my game when they saw that the lvl 6 quarian infiltrator was getting more points than them... I mean...c'mon its a bloody coop game!


I really like this generalization you make, saying Vanguards are played by stupid people. This is obviously not sarcasm, because as a Vanguard lover, I am too stupid for sarcasm.

And I have totally not seen any improportionally dumb playing from other classes, it is obviously that only Vanguards are dumb people, or by reverse logic, which I obviously can't indulge in, as the quoted user stated, I am far too stupid for that, that only stupid people play Vanguards.

What my inferiour mental capacity devises from this obviously false argumentation, as I am too stupid to do that properly, is that stupid players that are bad only play as Vanguards is a fundamentally incorrect way of higher than myself thinking (because you know, I am stupid and all that), but actually merely an expression of mathematical chance and individual perception preferences narrowing your viable version of your reality (which is obviously less tupid than mine) into something less diverse to deal with for psychological self-elevation and -promotion as a means of distinguishing your obviously intellectually superiour being onto realms us stupid Vanguard players can not hope to comprehend.



And please do not let me get started on my dumbfonded argumentation on what I think of that infamous "IQ", it might just strain my underdeveloped neurons trying to express what exactly I think of it and its relevance.

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 11 mars 2012 - 07:05 .


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Uchimura

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firehawk12 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

AdamTaylor wrote...

What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?

Max Charge. Max Nova. Grab the fourth Soldier talent that increases the weight you can hold.


Which skills you should take?  I have points to use but I'm not sure if increasing damage is better than being able to hit two extra guys, for example.


http://social.biowar...3/index/9711975

My suggestions are fifth post down.

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firehawk12

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Thanks!

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Maria Caliban

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Blueberry Slaughter wrote...

AdamTaylor wrote...

What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?


If you elect to be an Asari Vanguard, your heavy melee is now your Nova. Has some drawbacks, but also advantages.

In other words:

Heavy risk.
But the priiiiiize.

Most newbies won't be rocking an asari vanguard.

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AndanteInBlue

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I played my asari vanguard quite a bit and I didn't really find the heavy melee very useful. The stagger at the end of it was way too risky if I can't be sure I kill my target(s). I do enjoy the more "supporty" feel of her over the human vanguard though. What is the asari vanguard's big "draw" for vet players?

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KelbornX

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

PapVogel wrote...

Worst thing about vanguards is the apparent IQ it takes to play one, alot of vanguards are so used to owning up the place and getting all the kills, that yesterday, on 3 occasions, i had vanguards ragequit my game when they saw that the lvl 6 quarian infiltrator was getting more points than them... I mean...c'mon its a bloody coop game!

[sarcastic rage]


There's stupid all over the place, since this is the Internet...  and even more on console platforms.  

But I have to admit, the majority of Vanguard players I've seen have just been incredibly reckless (low IQ is probably a bad term to use).  Trying to solo Geth Primes, Brutes, and Atlases (wtf is the plural?), for example.  Bum rushing 3 Ravagers and wonding why they got insta killed...  just generally not playing with the rest of the team.  I get the whole playstyle of the class is Charge > Nova > hope things died and gtfo to do it again; but seriously.  

Every now and then there's someone who knows what he's doing, but most I've seen just charge all over the map ignoring objectives or kill stealing.  

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The only real stupidity I see around here right now is that ever since the demo came out, people were raging around the Vanguards and calling them, and by proxy me, stupid idiots, when I could just as well point at soo many other other people playing just as ineffective with any other class.

How many Sentinels think once they have their TEch Armor on makes them invincible, just tu run straight into enemy hordes?
How many soldiers spam their Assault rifles' magazines into Guardians in the faint slot some stray bullets hit through the mailslot, without thinking about using CS.
How many Adepts have I seen that simply cast Throw after Throw after Throw.
How many Infiltrators seem to live only within their scope-vision, seemingly not noting the three enemies that just thankfully shoot them in the back whilst they try to score one more nice headshot.
How many Engineers do I see spamming Incinerate on shielded targets.

There is some level of n00bishness everywhere, but people are irrationally channeling it all onto the Vanguards. What twisted reality do those people live in?

I wasn't being sarcastic when I said I couldn't comprehend that thinking!

#23
GracefulChicken

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I love skeet-shooting the launched Nova victims. Hitting launched people with a pull or throw or concussive shot is so rewarding lol

A good vanguard is always welcome on my team. A good one. One that sets off stasis bubbles, doesn't die in the middle of nowhere, and uses their skillset to clear rez-chain sites instead of just dying to rez the silly engineer in the middle of a group.

Plus, I find the female vanguards Nova sound kinda sexy. RAAAHHH

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Only problem I have with the Vanguards is when I am about to shoot someone with my Black Widow, only for someone to fly across the map and steal the kill. Not really their fault though, just annoying.

I haven't actually noticed this screen shaking people are complaining about, and I play as an Infiltrator a lot. Strange.

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If I'm in a group of VG's I wont use a *Scope* instead I'll whip out the Nade launcher and pistol an or SMG and still get slightly more or close to the same points as a VG, other then that Stay Far from them as a sniper your better off helping them from a distance, that way you Can line up a shot :P.