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[LilyasAvalon]

I envy everyone who can play a vanguard in MP, I freeze up and screw up if I'm using one outside of SP.

[Sealy]

Yah, I haven't read the thread, just the title but no, vanguards, no you really don't... you steal my kills after I energy drain them and get them down to no health, you knock around my carefully scoped sniper victim, and you're noisey... also you die and intead of waiting for me to save you with my tactical cloak you use a medigel... in round one and get mad when I won't kiss a banshee ass to save you in round six. You also take your heavy hitter self to do the mission stuff while the engineers/infiltrators cover you, instead of letting the people with drones, tactical cloak and decoys are made to do mission stuff do it without fear of being shot at while give them the minor cover they may need. Why does no one bother to look at what their teams tactics are and battle accordingly? why?!

[Sussurus]

Honestly it's not the class, it's the player.
Either Vanguards are to powerful, or too weak and prone to rescue.

A strong vanguard I like, if the foe goes down quick I don't care by whom.
Weak ones that still have the syndrome of lone ranger are bad, either they must learn or quit.. Preferably not mid game, leaving the team a player down.

Just tried the Asari vanguard, must say no faults there.
Stick back use stasis for the team, knock out hard hitters, use heavy pistol.
When the fighting kicks off go martial biotic and blitz cqc.

The only times I've needed reviving so far are when completely flanked by waves during objectives.
First time a revive occurred it was me helping out.

As for objectives, sometimes players take the direct route... and get killed.
If taking on infinite waves best not head directly for it. If your team is bottle necked trying to reach it, the best course of action is to stay up and get the objectives quickly and safely.
Plus it then allows you to draw aggro, reset the spawn points and help out from a better position.

Stupid thing is getting kicked from a multiplayer just because you play as a vanguard once.
I can understand if bad, or great, but not joining up and getting booted for no other reason than class at menu.
If a player can't experiment and see what tricks they can pick up, it's a major waste.

Modifié par Sussurus, 12 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[RicHSAD]

A great combo is a Human Vanguard paired with a Drell Adept. Have the Adept just follow the Vanguard and spam Reave on everything. Almost everything that the Vauguard will do will result in a biotic explosion.

[Maria Caliban]

I grouped with a Vanguard who used Shockwave all the time and had no problem aiming. I'm going to guess this is a sniper problem?

[FabricatedWookie]

Fleshdress wrote...

Yah, I haven't read the thread, just the title but no, vanguards, no you really don't... you steal my kills after I energy drain them and get them down to no health, you knock around my carefully scoped sniper victim, and you're noisey... also you die and intead of waiting for me to save you with my tactical cloak you use a medigel... in round one and get mad when I won't kiss a banshee ass to save you in round six. You also take your heavy hitter self to do the mission stuff while the engineers/infiltrators cover you, instead of letting the people with drones, tactical cloak and decoys are made to do mission stuff do it without fear of being shot at while give them the minor cover they may need. Why does no one bother to look at what their teams tactics are and battle accordingly? why?!

y u no communicate?

[Arppis]

Maria Caliban wrote...

AdamTaylor wrote...

What's a good newbie build for a Vanguard? And which one should I be?

Max Charge. Max Nova. Grab the fourth Soldier talent that increases the weight you can hold.

And forget about Shockwave... or should I say SHOCKFAAAAIL!?

Maria Caliban wrote...

I grouped with a Vanguard who used
Shockwave all the time and had no problem aiming. I'm going to guess
this is a sniper problem?

WHUT U SAY!?

Modifié par Arppis, 12 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[Lumicko]

Suggestions for asari build and weapons?

[Sealy]

FabricatedWookie wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...

Yah, I haven't read the thread, just the title but no, vanguards, no you really don't... you steal my kills after I energy drain them and get them down to no health, you knock around my carefully scoped sniper victim, and you're noisey... also you die and intead of waiting for me to save you with my tactical cloak you use a medigel... in round one and get mad when I won't kiss a banshee ass to save you in round six. You also take your heavy hitter self to do the mission stuff while the engineers/infiltrators cover you, instead of letting the people with drones, tactical cloak and decoys are made to do mission stuff do it without fear of being shot at while give them the minor cover they may need. Why does no one bother to look at what their teams tactics are and battle accordingly? why?!

y u no communicate?

Ha, I communicate, and after the fourth time saying "Hey let the engineer turn that Turret on to our team and then still stay out of its sight..." Flash Vanguard is thrashing our friendly turret.  

[Lumicko]

Whats the best setup armor for Vanguard? Im on insanity im not using Nova im using shotgun + pistol . What means +10% dmg in close ? IT means meeele dmg or the distance from target?

[Majestyk16]

BloodClaw95 wrote...

The "RAWR" you hear all over the place from their Novas has slipped into my nightmares.

Yup, I play vanguard a lot and I dream of that charge/nova yell.

[Sky Stormsong]

Cyonan wrote...

I played a match earlier today where it was me(Salarian Infiltrator) and 3 Vanguards.

I'm amazed that I was able to actually hit anything.

I play the vanguard most of the time along with the infiltrator class whenever I feel like using a sniper rifle. I can get where people are coming from with the everything shaking thing  I try not to hang around players that need to aim to get the shots.

[Sinapus]

KelbornX wrote...

As an Human Engineer... I can at least get off Overload (triple chain on my human female) while the Vanguard's are charging. XD

Just played a game with 2 Vanguards and a Sentinel... pretty much just spammed Overload and my Combat Drone the whole time. I don't think I actually managed to shoot a single enemy...

I tend to do that with Engineers as well. Drones to the rear and then keep shocking them and... oh I can shoot too!

[NikkoJT]

Lumicko wrote...

Whats the best setup armor for Vanguard? Im on insanity im not using Nova im using shotgun + pistol . What means +10% dmg in close ? IT means meeele dmg or the distance from target?

I think you meant to post that in the single-player forum.

[Sussurus]

Lumicko wrote...

Suggestions for asari build and weapons?

One I run.
Max charge, force and damage, weapon synergy, full shield recharge.
Max Stasis, Strength, bonus power, bubble.
Max Fitness: melee.
Justicar: Power damage.
Lift Grenade: Three ranks.

[Apollys]

Clever. +1 and I agree

[sorentoft]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

How many soldiers spam their Assault rifles' magazines into Guardians in the faint slot some stray bullets hit through the mailslot, without thinking about using CS.

Yeah but running up to the guardians and headshotting them is way easier.

[Lumicko]

Sussurus wrote...

Lumicko wrote...

Suggestions for asari build and weapons?

One I run.
Max charge, force and damage, weapon synergy, full shield recharge.
Max Stasis, Strength, bonus power, bubble.
Max Fitness: melee.
Justicar: Power damage.
Lift Grenade: Three ranks.

Fitness meele suck as asari heavy meele isnt so good.. ye it got aoe but the cast time and after u cast it u cant move for like 1-2sec. So you are very vulnerable

[Sussurus]

Yes it's a last action, anything above bronze you're going down in a crowd no matter what.
That's what warping away mashing the space bar is for.. if I ever get it right and not hug cover at stupid times.

The really heavy AoE melee is to hammer home the direct attack and push back foes.

Plus 200% cool down and the stasis perk allows for a chance to use two powers no cool down.
So Bubble.. charge.. Melee AoE damage, repeat charge.

It's all how you try and play, instant charge = chance of death no matter the shields.

However I'll say again, I'm seeing just as many sensible Vanguards as non these days.
Seems like support the team and getting to objectives has sunk in.. Other characters seem to be losing that directive though at times.

It's like science fiction, see Vanguard, compete with vanguard for kills ignore other stuff.
Vanguard secures objective first, sticks close, charges threats only, gets to LZ.. still ranks first.

Modifié par Sussurus, 15 mars 2012 - 07:10 .

[humes spork]

As a vanguard, I don't just run around spamming nova or shockwave for no reason. Nor do I (usually) fight at midrange or longer unless I'm defending an objective, the extraction, or laying down some suppressive fire or softening up/finishing off enemies.

Hint: If I'm close to you, and I'm using nova or shockwave, you just might want to unscope and look around. Nine times out of ten that cirumstance happens it's because somebody packing a precision weapon completely failed in the situational awareness department and is mortally close to getting their ass gnawed, chopped, stabbed and/or shot off.

Modifié par humes spork, 15 mars 2012 - 07:20 .

[Sussurus]

Lol true.. why I check out players gear before a match.
If it's one weapon: Sniper rifle.. I know at some point whatever character I'm playing is going to be fighting a large group swarming. Wishing someone with a pistol or AR would shoot the gits and provide enough support so I can run away and regroup.

Modifié par Sussurus, 15 mars 2012 - 08:34 .

[Cthulad]

KelbornX wrote...

As an Human Engineer... I can at least get off Overload (triple chain on my human female) while the Vanguard's are charging. XD

Just played a game with 2 Vanguards and a Sentinel... pretty much just spammed Overload and my Combat Drone the whole time. I don't think I actually managed to shoot a single enemy...

So many good Vanguard players in my games...  and I'm so terrible with them.    

As a human vanguard I actually love when the other classes set up tech/biotic combos and I try to charge toward targets affected by those powers that can detonate.

So don't worry, we love you too

[UKStory135]

I've been playing a lot with my Asari Vanguard lately. I use her in two completely different ways. If I have a lot of Infiltrators, I will sit back and spam Stasis, while watching their flanks. I also go wrecking ball mode with my stasis, charge, heavy melee, and Katana, combo.

[GracefulChicken]

What are you guys talking about? The RAAAH sound female vanguards make is sexy, that can slip into my dreams any night. And Vanguards are fine. Just find a good one. Hint: A sniper-toting Vanguard is automatically not "a good one".

[Hyrist]

Arppis wrote...


And forget about Shockwave... or should I say SHOCKFAAAAIL!?

It's called Lift Shockwave with full reach and extra lenght. My Human Female Vanguard has it built on her for higher difficulties, and it's VERY useful.

Stick with a heavy pistol and use it as a support function. Fairly spammable, sets up Biotic Explosions, detonates biotic explosions from other players' abilities. Forces enemies hit to stagger and take continual damage.

It is the best ability to hold specific areas such as hack or activate/deactivate targets as well as good for extraction when you're dealing with multiple targets. Bypasses walls and cover.

Charge-Nova hogs are not as powerful in Gold, but this abilitiy keeps you in the game.