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[Rhayth]

Yes you do see her face...it was photoshopped, but basically they look human with like graph or tattoo-ish markins, and of course the three fingers. Think like tattooed elves. Which is fine by me cause I know alot o' people complained about it, but it fit some of the concept designs they have for Quarians without masks on so it doesn't bug me.

[Greed1914]

Adugan wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Adugan wrote...

So what is this Tali issue? How did we see her face and what is the problem with it?

We got a phtoshopped image picture.

Where did we see it though? On Rannoch when she took off the mask or the LI photo in Shep's room?

The photo in Shep's room.  It wasn't a big deal to me.  I wouldn't have known if I wasn't on these forums, and it's not like Bioware hasn't used real people before.  We have Sheploo, Miranda, and Tallis from DA2 that all use a real person's face. 

[eternalYouth304]

Adugan wrote...

So what is this Tali issue? How did we see her face and what is the problem with it?

****spoiler so you might not want to know (just saying)****

if you choose to ally the geth at the expense of the Quarians, the geth wipe them out and Tali jumps off a cliff because of the grief. 

we see her face later when Shepard is looking at a framed picture of Tali.  it took about 10 hours after release for someone to find out that the picture used in the frame was actually a stock photo found on web page and BW adjusted it to look 'more alien.'  when you see the photos side-by-side it's laughable how bad of a job they did rendering the photo.  terrible chop job.  

[jess05]

If they do alter the endings, I hope its a patch .. NOT DLC

That would be a huge slap to gamers ..
"We are happy to announce we fixed the issues everyone was upset about, and provided more alterntaive conclusions in which decisions have a greater impact. For only $10 you can add it to your game."

Modifié par jess05, 11 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[RealTerminal]

Rhayth wrote...

defenestrated wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

This. Very much this.

Same any form of threat or insults only discredit our grievances.  We need to maintain a clear, mature, rational
, and logical stand point.  We must hold the line!

I'm sorry to have to tell you this man but, they basically did the equivelent of angering 4chan here.
Say your goodbyes to Mac.

[Rhayth]

eternalYouth304 wrote...

Adugan wrote...

So what is this Tali issue? How did we see her face and what is the problem with it?

****spoiler so you might not want to know (just saying)****

if you choose to ally the geth at the expense of the Quarians, the geth wipe them out and Tali jumps off a cliff because of the grief. 

we see her face later when Shepard is looking at a framed picture of Tali.  it took about 10 hours after release for someone to find out that the picture used in the frame was actually a stock photo found on web page and BW adjusted it to look 'more alien.'  when you see the photos side-by-side it's laughable how bad of a job they did rendering the photo.  terrible chop job.  

It's a spoiler filled forum...just sayin'

[devSin]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

The photo in the room. We never see her physical face.

That hand still makes me chuckle.

I feel bad, but God, that thing is awesome!

[Beldamon]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

I agree with this 100%.  One of the interesting things about this whole reaction to the ending of the game is for once, on the whole, those who could be labelled 'complainers' are coming across quite reasonable (alibiet, quite passionately).

On the other hand, the people who enjoyed the endings are more incline to recduce to name calling and outright insults (calling people childish, or f**s, or 'entitled').  Not all, certainly but it seems to me to be more often the case.

The only way to be taken seriously is to present the case seriously.

(I don't want to give the impression I hold any hope it will amount to anything.  The only real hope is the Dev team might understand why they are getting the strong negative reaction they are getting.)

[Militarized]

RealTerminal wrote...

Rhayth wrote...

defenestrated wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

This. Very much this.

Same any form of threat or insults only discredit our grievances.  We need to maintain a clear, mature, rational
, and logical stand point.  We must hold the line!

I'm sorry to have to tell you this man but, they basically did the equivelent of angering 4chan here.
Say your goodbyes to Mac.

I feel we've actually been pretty civil so far... I had never really partaken of the BSN before and had no idea of it's "reputation" until I finished ME3 really. I've been here since I finished ME3... hanging out my window... mad as hell. Not gonna take it anymore. 

[Skypezee]

Bendok wrote...

We might hate the endings but don't discount the rest of the game's writing which was for the most part amazing.

This.
Seriously, I liked Mass Effect 3. I liked it a lot.... but sadly the endings just ruined it for me. It gave me a sense of my actions not having any meaning along with any relationships I made being a waste of time. At the very least, have a decent ending where if Shepard lives the Normandy Crew doesn't get blasted away and/or the LI is there with Shepard. On top of that, have a decent narrative that explains the consequences of your actions better, the fate of Shepard and compatriots, the fate of other species, etc. You know... kind of like how the epilogue to Dragon Age: Origins went over your actions and told you the consequences of what you did along with where the other characters are now.

And hey, I was also expecting a really bad ending where Shepard fails. Or even if Shepard dies, the crew of the Normandy is around to pay respects.

I guess my overall beef and question about the endings is this..... how did you go from having a great story for ME3 (and the series in general) to having the endings we got now? Seriously, everything was fine up until that point and I want to know what happened. And it would be great if a dev or especially the writer himself would explain something.

Modifié par Skypezee, 11 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[eternalYouth304]

Rhayth wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...

Adugan wrote...

So what is this Tali issue? How did we see her face and what is the problem with it?

****spoiler so you might not want to know (just saying)****

if you choose to ally the geth at the expense of the Quarians, the geth wipe them out and Tali jumps off a cliff because of the grief. 

we see her face later when Shepard is looking at a framed picture of Tali.  it took about 10 hours after release for someone to find out that the picture used in the frame was actually a stock photo found on web page and BW adjusted it to look 'more alien.'  when you see the photos side-by-side it's laughable how bad of a job they did rendering the photo.  terrible chop job.  

It's a spoiler filled forum...just sayin'

thanks.

[GBGriffin]

Beldamon wrote...


I agree with this 100%.  One of the interesting things about this whole reaction to the ending of the game is for once, on the whole, those who could be labelled 'complainers' are coming across quite reasonable (alibiet, quite passionately).

On the other hand, the people who enjoyed the endings are more incline to recduce to name calling and outright insults (calling people childish, or f**s, or 'entitled').  Not all, certainly but it seems to me to be more often the case.

Actually...yeah. Like I said, I've seen people who like the ending without feeling the need to attack or talk down to those who don't, and I respect the people who do this and see why people would be upset to begin with even more.

[Cosmar]

I thought Mac Walters did a good job with Garrus' dialogue in ME. And as lead writer it seemed he did a fine job throughout most of ME3. I don't know where that ending came from, but for some reason I feel like BW felt the need to change it last minute after the "real" ending had been leaked too soon.

It's just hard for me to believe that he came up with that ending and truly felt really good about it in light of his previous work on the series, which was good. I'm just going to tell myself it was because of time/budget constraints...

[Drake_1000]

Beldamon wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

I agree with this 100%.  One of the interesting things about this whole reaction to the ending of the game is for once, on the whole, those who could be labelled 'complainers' are coming across quite reasonable (alibiet, quite passionately).

On the other hand, the people who enjoyed the endings are more incline to recduce to name calling and outright insults (calling people childish, or f**s, or 'entitled').  Not all, certainly but it seems to me to be more often the case.

The only way to be taken seriously is to present the case seriously.

(I don't want to give the impression I hold any hope it will amount to anything.  The only real hope is the Dev team might understand why they are getting the strong negative reaction they are getting.)

Well said.

If i made this thread its not for see this man being trolled. I just want to know why he did what he did and if he think its a good job. But im pretty sure he dont read anything here.

Modifié par Drake_1000, 11 mars 2012 - 03:59 .

[Michael177]

Not everyone is how you say Beldamon... I for one enjoy the ending, but it's annoying that the majority are being perceived that way.

[AlexXIV]

I really hate to take things out on single people. I rather just blame Bioware in general. Because they are all kinda in one boat. And I guess one person alone can't just write an ending and put it in without anyone else knowing or agreeing with. As tempting as blaming scapegoats is. And we don't really know who did what and why. It's all wild speculation atm.

[Nyaore]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

A-****ING-MEN.
I'm just as mad as the rest of you, but devolving into petty insults is not only disrespectful - it's also the fastest way for them to stop taking us seriously. Would YOU want to listen to some random person on a forum who just called you all manner of names and demanded your head on a pike? No, chances are most of you would try to ignore that person or argue with them for a bit before eventually giving up. 
We're better than this. Don't turn this into another DA2 fiasco. Yes, the endings were bad, but you don't need to insult the man in order to let him know that.

[Rhayth]

eternalYouth304 wrote...

Rhayth wrote...

eternalYouth304 wrote...

Adugan wrote...

So what is this Tali issue? How did we see her face and what is the problem with it?

****spoiler so you might not want to know (just saying)****

if you choose to ally the geth at the expense of the Quarians, the geth wipe them out and Tali jumps off a cliff because of the grief. 

we see her face later when Shepard is looking at a framed picture of Tali.  it took about 10 hours after release for someone to find out that the picture used in the frame was actually a stock photo found on web page and BW adjusted it to look 'more alien.'  when you see the photos side-by-side it's laughable how bad of a job they did rendering the photo.  terrible chop job.  

It's a spoiler filled forum...just sayin'

thanks.

Welcome

[Drake_1000]

AlexXIV wrote...

I really hate to take things out on single people. I rather just blame Bioware in general. Because they are all kinda in one boat. And I guess one person alone can't just write an ending and put it in without anyone else knowing or agreeing with. As tempting as blaming scapegoats is. And we don't really know who did what and why. It's all wild speculation atm.

One of the writer said the ending part was from Mac Walters. So its his stuff, his idea, his work. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Siegdrifa]

defenestrated wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

This. Very much this.

I think the guy already go through lot of stress due to the franchise and his role as a lead (easy target sadly), it's definitly more healty for both party (especialy the fan) to be polite and in the worst case, to agree to desagree with the man.

[Gamer Granny]

Must suck to wake up one morning and realise you're the idiot that killed a franchise.

[Cirreus]

I never could relate to the movie Misery . It just seemed, foreign the idea that someone could sh*t in your cereal to the point of revenge . I'm making light of the situation that happened on the forums late last month, but f*ck ! It crossed my mind 




I never even went on a gaming website forum to complain about a game until Mass Effect 3 ... but now I understand Kathy Bates' character ... 

I feel sick

Modifié par Cirreus, 11 mars 2012 - 03:44 .

[AxisEvolve]

Yes... I posted this a few hours ago.

[Drake_1000]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Yes... I posted this a few hours ago.

Thanks, couldn't find this anymore.

[kbct]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Yes... I posted this a few hours ago.

Mac just got thrown under bus!