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[Pedro Costa]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

[Drake_1000]

Cheesy Blue wrote...

Guy's we can't be mad at Mac. We should be mad at the sick mother ****er who approved it.

I can be mad with both of them. Still we are not here for trolling, we just want to understand.
And want Bioware to fix this after that.

[Aedan276]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Agreed. Can't stress this enough. 

Modifié par Aedan276, 11 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[SlottsMachine]

^Ditto

Also, I love how Weekes throws Walters under the bus. lmao

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 11 mars 2012 - 06:46 .

[Optimus J]

shnellegaming wrote...

Guys Mac has been writing Mass Effect since the beginning so you DO like his writing cause you liked ME1, ME2, and before the ending ME3. Remember there were leaks that there was an ultimate happy ending that got cut? He probably wrote that ending. I'm thinking everything they created got slimmed down and cut cause they ran out of time or money. Remember the problem here is the lack of exposition. The endings wouldn't have seemed that bad if we had been told who lived and who died, what the situation was for the crew and galaxy. It was probably written just never implemented.

No dude.

Marguerita Walters willing wrote that Mass relays are blown up with almost all the military of the galaxy is on Earth.

Marguerita Walters willing wrote that we know things until the moment that Shepard fire the Crucible, but to hell to what happens after the ray finishes its work. It's everywhere in the internets that ME3 is Shepard's story ending.

[JohnCena94]

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

[Jahannam]

Optimus J wrote...

shnellegaming wrote...

Guys Mac has been writing Mass Effect since the beginning so you DO like his writing cause you liked ME1, ME2, and before the ending ME3. Remember there were leaks that there was an ultimate happy ending that got cut? He probably wrote that ending. I'm thinking everything they created got slimmed down and cut cause they ran out of time or money. Remember the problem here is the lack of exposition. The endings wouldn't have seemed that bad if we had been told who lived and who died, what the situation was for the crew and galaxy. It was probably written just never implemented.

No dude.

Marguerita Walters willing wrote that Mass relays are blown up with almost all the military of the galaxy is on Earth.

Marguerita Walters willing wrote that we know things until the moment that Shepard fire the Crucible, but to hell to what happens after the ray finishes its work. It's everywhere in the internets that ME3 is Shepard's story ending.

Maybe English isnt your language but screw margueritas Im just gonna take a straight shot and stop trying to decipher this.

[Militarized]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Zulenka wrote...

Militarized wrote...

O RLY? ....well, now we know who to target.

BSN FLEET, ENGAGE!

I'll take point. 

Just realized that Mock Effect 3 could easily be about uniting all the fanboys for a massive fleet action against the writers.

****... I'd lend my voice. 

Volion wrote...

Militarized wrote...

O RLY? ....well, now we know who to target. 

BSN FLEET, ENGAGE!

That made me smile, thank you. 

 

You're welcome  

[nitefyre410]

if this true I would like to know how a professional writer... in the last 15 minutes of a story... manages to pull a Diablos Ex Machina, Jump the Shark and Failure is the Only Option all at once. In a story that was building to Earn Your Happy Ending.

Secondly... The AI/ God child logic... an explanation of it because the logic is broken. Just plan broken. Its whole standing point is locked a point of view that does not take in account the possibility that opposite happens. Its almost like a child seeing things only from its point of view... Ironically it takes the for a child... Heh go figure. Not taking to account the Synthetics may want peace with Organics and Organics accept Synthetics. The Geth prove it wrong.. not once but TWICE. 300 years earlier the let the Quarians leave when they could have killed them off.

[Jahannam]

JohnCena94 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

Disapprove of how he does his job enough and thats like saying fire him...but dissaproving and saying why is the right way. Rather than fire this*&^% He sucks a fat *&^%. I hates him and I want him and his family to live in poverty because my LI died in a video game! How dare you violate my pixels like that!

[Drake_1000]

JohnCena94 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

All i want is him explain what is his feeling about a ending like that.
Maybe it was epic in his mind at the start, i don't know...

[Jahannam]

Drake_1000 wrote...

JohnCena94 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

All i want is him explain what is his feeling about a ending like that.
Maybe it was epic in his mind at the start, i don't know...

Whats the point in trying to explain? Theres thousands of posts about why people hate the ending...if he tried to explain hes facing a virtual army of haters and thats a no win situation. No...I understand silence. Saying something is kicking a beehive.

Modifié par Jahannam, 11 mars 2012 - 05:34 .

[JasonTan87]

To be fair, Mac did his job well for the most part. There are some inconsistent writing across the characters, but it was well within reasonable standards (ie. it was still good stuff). There was also some absolutely incredible narrative portions -- I felt that Liara's project was the most amazing bit of video game writing I've ever seen. It was quietly self-reflexive, immensely powerful and touching.

As for the ending, the writing for the ending was incredible right up until Shepard made his choice; then the narrative imploded with the mass relays. The writing for the resolution is incredibly sloppy.

The final sequence of images before the credits added absolutely nothing to the narrative. I kept wondering: what motivated Shepard to pick his/her choice? What was he thinking in his defining moment? What did he hope to achieve? They could have answered this actively (through monologue -- as the ending did in Deus Ex) or retroactively (through the reactions and thoughts of the supporting cast -- as the ending did in Metal Gear Solid 4).

It was a waste of a fantastic opportunity; if they managed to nail the resolution, the ending could be as powerful as Solid Snake's farewell at the end of MGS4.

Modifié par JasonTan87, 11 mars 2012 - 05:41 .

[JohnCena94]

Jahannam wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

JohnCena94 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

All i want is him explain what is his feeling about a ending like that.
Maybe it was epic in his mind at the start, i don't know...

Whats the point in trying to explain? Theres thousands of posts about why people hate the ending...if he tried to explain hes facing a virtual army of haters and thats a no win situation. No...I understand silence. Saying something is kicking a beehive.

Your arguemnt is like what Shepard was given in the end by that kid. Just because it most likely won't work, does not mean it shouldn't be tried, it fits for the game and what you said.

Modifié par JohnCena94, 11 mars 2012 - 05:41 .

[MoarToast4U]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

I want to stress the above point. Don't start shifting focus on the lead writer. Vent your frustrations/anger/confusion/etc at the scene itself. Have your reasons and stand strongly by them! If we have any hope of getting a DLC of a "good" ending, we can't turn this into a flame war against the devs. It's just going to turn into another Hepler incident, people will end up getting banned, and Bioware will discredit all of our points due to a few bad apples. Bioware has to realize that this is something that the majority fanbase shares and that we can be mature and honest about our aversion towards these "endings."

[Drake_1000]

Jahannam wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

JohnCena94 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

All i want is him explain what is his feeling about a ending like that.
Maybe it was epic in his mind at the start, i don't know...

Whats the point in trying to explain? Theres thousands of posts about why people hate the ending...if he tried to explain hes facing a virtual army of haters and thats a no win situation. No...I understand silence. Saying something is kicking a beehive.

Because we are not stupid kids. For the most part of us. We just want answer to something who ****ed 5 years of a great game, that's all. And until that we are just angry fans.

[Jahannam]

JohnCena94 wrote..Your arguemnt is like what Shepard should have said to that kid.  "Just because it most likely won't work, does not mean it shouldn't be tried."

Its the fact devs have tried and been flamed to no end when the overall opinion is against them. 1 man vs thousands of flaming people. Try it...Ive been a mod and 10 people on my butt is too much. I could not even fathom trying to explain it to thousands of people along with the insults ect. Its not that it " likely wont work" Its simply it wont work period.

Modifié par Jahannam, 11 mars 2012 - 05:44 .

[Jahannam]

Drake_1000 wrote...

Jahannam wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

JohnCena94 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

Just Quoting for Epic Truth in order to not get it forgotten amidst all the disappointment and resentment that comes attached...

Must resist requesting him to be fired,it is so hard.  Seriously though no one threaten him, requesting him to be fired is one thing that is very wrong, but threats and violence are never ok.

All i want is him explain what is his feeling about a ending like that.
Maybe it was epic in his mind at the start, i don't know...

Whats the point in trying to explain? Theres thousands of posts about why people hate the ending...if he tried to explain hes facing a virtual army of haters and thats a no win situation. No...I understand silence. Saying something is kicking a beehive.

Because we are not stupid kids. For the most part of us. We just want answer to something who ****ed 5 years of a great game, that's all. And until that we are just angry fans.

Look man...I have 2 people arguing that the dev should post already. How do you think thats going to go if one actually does? Hes going to be repeatedly and ruthelessly attacked. Whats the point? Oh you can feel better that you got to flame on? Not a damn mystery why they are not posting and will not post.

Modifié par Jahannam, 11 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[Jjacobclark]

honestly who cares how mac walters eats having that on his twitter is so self indulgent

[Jahannam]

Jjacobclark wrote...

honestly who cares how mac walters eats having that on his twitter is so self indulgent

Its called distraction. You apparently took the bait as you are posting about it. As much as you guys I would like a explanation. Write it and lock the thread. Delete the 700 topics relating to it that people start. Spit it out and be done with it.

[Jjacobclark]

Jahannam wrote...

Jjacobclark wrote...

honestly who cares how mac walters eats having that on his twitter is so self indulgent

Its called distraction. You apparently took the bait as you are posting about it. As much as you guys I would like a explanation. Write it and lock the thread. Delete the 700 topics relating to it that people start. Spit it out and be done with it.

your a cheery one arent you

[atheelogos]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Guys. I'm going to say this preemptively. I know its tempting, but don't threaten him, don't call him names and ask for him to be fired or humiliated. We're better than that. Sending him a mature letter listing your grievances is ok. Don't do anything that will reflect badly upon the fans as a whole.

QFT

[vigna]

I actually blame wasting resources on multi-player. Why waste those resources when the game was conceived as a single player shooter/RPG?
I don't get it......

[Eumerin]

Ormeriel wrote...

- Why are all the corpses of human lying around? That's not the reapers way, if they take them to harvest them the would be nicely put in coffing or tubes or whatever, waiting to be processed

Don't want to get too involved in answering the list of questions, so I'll just touch on this one -

We also saw piles of dead bodies on the Collector ship in ME2.  It appears that not everyone qualifies for the various uses that the Reapers have for organic bodies.

[Greed1914]

JasonTan87 wrote...

To be fair, Mac did his job well for the most part. There are some inconsistent writing across the characters, but it was well within reasonable standards (ie. it was still good stuff). There was also some absolutely incredible narrative portions -- I felt that Liara's project was the most amazing bit of video game writing I've ever seen. It was quietly self-reflexive, immensely powerful and touching.

As for the ending, the writing for the ending was incredible right up until Shepard made his choice; then the narrative imploded with the mass relays. The writing for the resolution is incredibly sloppy.

The final sequence of images before the credits added absolutely nothing to the narrative. I kept wondering: what motivated Shepard to pick his/her choice? What was he thinking in his defining moment? What did he hope to achieve? They could have answered this actively (through monologue -- as the ending did in Deus Ex) or retroactively (through the reactions and thoughts of the supporting cast -- as the ending did in Metal Gear Solid 4).

It was a waste of a fantastic opportunity; if they managed to nail the resolution, the ending could be as powerful as Solid Snake's farewell at the end of MGS4.

Some sort of closure would be good.  (MGS4 still gets me at the end every time.  )

You're also right about how great that scene with Liara's project was.  I really had to sit there and consider the options.  I mean, she is flat out saying that I'm the most important person in the galaxy and future generations need to know about me, and I have to pick what they'll know.  It's pretty obvious that such a project would essentialy be the start of a mythology/religion, so it wasn't to be taken lightly.