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[axsntch]

Clearly he believes Space God because Bioware made him become Space Jesus.

[HrzRanok]

Citizen Q wrote...

HrzRanok wrote...

You know what bioware should have done to silence many of you who do not get it.
Allow the disney vanilla ending. Shephard saves everything, the galaxy wins.

Then show about 10k years later with the galaxy completely devoid of life. No reapers, no AI no nothing because everyone destroyed themselves.

There you go, your vanilla disney ending.

The point is you can say "Why didn't they just leave the relays intact?"
Because that is what would have eventually happened.

I also find it hilarious that people are saying "well if it could have happened it would have happened already.." then in the same reply say "but it would never happen.."

If it could have or did happen in the past, then it would have happened in the future.
Can't have it both ways everyone. Either its not possible therefore it never happened in the past either. Or it happened in the past which means it would happen in the future.
Take your pick.

The you say "Why should he believe the guardian?"
Because if the guardian had any dire intent he would have never even offered the synthetic or control option.
In fact if it had any dire intent it wouldn't have offered him any solutions. It could have just simply shot shephard in the head and said "screw you I win.."

Again, you have ZERO observable proof that this is the case, outside of a genocidal godchild TELLING you it is in order to justify his own actions. In fact the exact  opposite case, synthetics helping organics, is very likely already happening in the battle that is raging while Shep is talking to the Dues Ex Machina.

Plenty of evidence. Did you play some of the sidequests in ME 1 or 2?
Both had a situation where a rougue VI took over and killed all organics.
Plenty of verifiable examples to say this was a very real possibility. Shephard observed this plenty of times and even fought against rougue synthetics other than the geth or reapers.

Everyone takes the quarians and geth as an example.
Truth is they are still around even after this whole debacle. The geth ( the true geth ) isolated themselves from the rest of the galaxy and they seemed to do just fine on their own. Because of what shephard did in bringing them together, in all likeli hood he saved both of their arses.

The galaxy had no chance with the cycle, the citadel, and the relays in place. Now they have a chance.
I am not saying you are wrong or anyone else who didn't like the ending was wrong. All I am telling you is WHY the ending turned out like it did.

Nobody has to like the ending. Hell I didn't like the ending to The Matrix either. The point is that it did make sense from a certain point of view. Im trying to explain WHY shephard didn't argue, why he didn't just tell them to F-off.

Would have the galaxy survived with the reapers gone and relays in Place? Maybe
Could shephard had just told the guardian to screw himself?

Woulda coulda shoulda. Did Old yeller have to die.

Point is none of that matters. It ended how it ended. Alot of people do strange things or things we don't expect at the end.

The only thing that I am trying to convey is that the ending made sense. Liking or not is not an issue because I understand why people didn't like it.

But I am sorry it did make sense and there was a silver lining to it that everyone seems to think didn't happen.
Shephard won, just not in the way you wanted him to.
He's already made the choice, now you have to understand it.

[goose2989]

 This is what so many of us find upsetting about the ending. Yes, I say that in the singular form. While I and many fans do want that cheezy, rainbows and butterflies ending, the current ending choices don't even make any sense, especially in relation to the Mass Effect series.

Where's Shepard's defiance? Why isn't he/she just sticking it to the Catalyst? It's what we did to Sovereign. it's what we did to the Illusive Man (or at least we could). Why no choice this time? 

This is where the EMS could come back to play. If you have a high score (I'd go as far as to say 6,000) give Shepard the ability to survive, regardless of the choices. The Indoctrination/Hallucination idea is actually becoming very plausible, and would fit here. Boil the three choices down to Paragon, neutral, and Renegade, and add DLC that shows Shepard waking up on the Normandy, with the crew.

http://www.forbes.co...-mass-effect-3/ 

http://gamerant.com/...n-johnj-137926/ 

[HrzRanok]

This is all leading into ME4 in all likelihood.

I mean what if Bioware released a DLC that completely changed the ending? What would you think then?

Regardless. I get that alot of you didn't like the ending. Nothing wrong with that honestly. I think differently but thats the beuty of real life. We get to choose. Shephard didn't, and this is just a game.

[legion999]

Citizen Q wrote...

A more potent question, Why would Shep ever believe a word out of the little bast4rds mouth after he just admitted to being the architect of the cycles. This means he is responsible for the death and destruction of not just innumerable beings, but INNUMERABLE CIVILIZATIONS.

Stop and think about that for a minute. This thing just admitted to killing so many beings that most people don't even know the names of the numbers need to quantify it, and Shep just says, "yea, okay, fvck it. time to get myself killed and end galactic civilization all because the little godkid reaper bast4rd told me to"

If we go by the Leviathan of Dis' age and the cycle happening every 50,000 years then the Reapers have wiped life out 20,000 times. Which is why I will never spare them or believe their "leader".

[ecarden]

HrzRanok wrote...

rvgifford wrote...

HrzRanok wrote...

You know what bioware should have done to silence many of you who do not get it.
Allow the disney vanilla ending. Shephard saves everything, the galaxy wins.

Then show about 10k years later with the galaxy completely devoid of life. No reapers, no AI no nothing because everyone destroyed themselves.

There you go, your vanilla disney ending.

Actually if you want to accuse people of "not getting it" you don't seem to get it. As far as I can tell, most people want an ending that makes sense, not a happy fairy tale ending. There are definitely some people who want a happy ending. They played their Shep for the last several years over more than a hundred hours.

I wouldn't be opposed to a happy (read happier) ending, but that is not the point made by most. The point is the ending as is sucks, makes zero sense, and offers nada in the way of closure. Happy ending optional, good ending mandatory.

Okie dokie. So whats your ending

I gave several possibilities earlier, as have others throughout the forums. The easiest and least satisfying fix (though it's still several steps up from the current ending) has Shepard allowed make his argument for why the galaxy is worth saving to the Catalyst. In it's most basic form, you argue with the AI and despite being allowed to point out its bull****, can't convince it and have to choose.

I don't like this ending, but Shepard no longer acts like a moron. He (for me) is just a puppet, powerless in the end, except as proof that we could build the crucible and reach the citidel. I don't like turning a character who, to me, has always stood for hope and the possibility of success into a puppet, but whatever.

More complex: If you choose to argue, then, depending on your war assets, the crucible is destroyed before you can convince him (meaning the Reapers win) or you are able to convince him, because your fleets buy you the time you need. In the Paragon ending, you convince him to wait and see. After all, if the created really do try to destroy us, a giant fleet of space cutttlefish might be nice. In the Renegade ending, he's shown that he has become exactly what he fears (a synthetic who destroys organics) and suicides, taking most, but not all of the Reapers with him.

In both of these endings there are pluses and minuses (Renegade still has a war to fight, Paragon always has potential genocide lurking in the background if space god changes his mind). In both, gathering a massive fleet actually is relevant, instead of making entirely cosmetic differences to your cutscene.

You'd also want some sort of epilogue that referenced your choices and actions (There's plenty of room for bittersweet here as well, even tying it into your EMS, if it was too low, Wrex dies on Earth and Tuchanka falls into anarchy, which spills out into galaxy-wide war if you cured the genophage and lost Eve as well. If you lose Wrex, but not Eve, the war is a brutal civil war whose outcome depends on a number of factors, did you redeem Victus's son? Unite the Quarians and Geth? Seize certain facilities, get the Citidel Defense Force strong enough, etc.)

[HrzRanok]

goose2989 wrote...

 This is what so many of us find upsetting about the ending. Yes, I say that in the singular form. While I and many fans do want that cheezy, rainbows and butterflies ending, the current ending choices don't even make any sense, especially in relation to the Mass Effect series.

Where's Shepard's defiance? Why isn't he/she just sticking it to the Catalyst? It's what we did to Sovereign. it's what we did to the Illusive Man (or at least we could). Why no choice this time? 

This is where the EMS could come back to play. If you have a high score (I'd go as far as to say 6,000) give Shepard the ability to survive, regardless of the choices. The Indoctrination/Hallucination idea is actually becoming very plausible, and would fit here. Boil the three choices down to Paragon, neutral, and Renegade, and add DLC that shows Shepard waking up on the Normandy, with the crew.

http://www.forbes.co...-mass-effect-3/ 

http://gamerant.com/...n-johnj-137926/ 

Well they did this for Fallout 3 so I don't see why they couldn't do it for Mass effect 3 to appease the outcry. I would be for it as long as it within the realm of believability and I would certainly believe a harbinger created hullicination. But I guess that's the beuty of Video Games isn't it over movies. You can change the ending.

"Where's Shepard's defiance? Why isn't he/she just sticking it to the Catalyst? It's what we did to Sovereign. it's what we did to the Illusive Man (or at least we could). Why no choice this time? "

To be honest I wish I knew. This is the real deficiency on bioware's fault. i think they were to vaugue in explaining why Shephard chose to accept the three choices. Maybe a sidequest were he looks through a magic portal showing the future without reapers and some AI destroying everything.
Maybe a VI ( not a reaper ) that was there before the cycle was put into place that could show a bit more of why the cycle became as it was in the first place.
I don't know. I mean I understood the ending, but I can definately see where many would not. Note: That doesn't mean they are unintelligent. It just means they didn't think it made sense. Nothing wrong with that. Just saying.

[HrzRanok]

legion999 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

A more potent question, Why would Shep ever believe a word out of the little bast4rds mouth after he just admitted to being the architect of the cycles. This means he is responsible for the death and destruction of not just innumerable beings, but INNUMERABLE CIVILIZATIONS.

Stop and think about that for a minute. This thing just admitted to killing so many beings that most people don't even know the names of the numbers need to quantify it, and Shep just says, "yea, okay, fvck it. time to get myself killed and end galactic civilization all because the little godkid reaper bast4rd told me to"

If we go by the Leviathan of Dis' age and the cycle happening every 50,000 years then the Reapers have wiped life out 20,000 times. Which is why I will never spare them or believe their "leader".

Then choose the destruction option. this wipes out all of the reapers. Yet it destroys the relays but the reapers would at least be gone.

[Ezekiel_Frost]

The whole Idea of "My solution doesn't work any longer" is total nonsense!
Nothing forces the Reapers to wait with their galactic harvest until the current civilizations are advanced enough to be an actual threat.

So what that an organic made it to the citatels core. Next time arrive a couple of millenia earlier and annihilate them while most of the races still use bronze swords to defend themselves...

Modifié par Ezekiel_Frost, 12 mars 2012 - 06:29 .

[xAmilli0n]

My Shep didn't believe a word he said. He just got up and finished the job he came to do (destroy the reapers, and in the process, the space kid). Were all other synthetics killed? Who knows, it wasn't expanded upon in the epilogue. All I know is the Normandy survived, Shep survived, and the reapers are dead.

[ecarden]

HrzRanok wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

A more potent question, Why would Shep ever believe a word out of the little bast4rds mouth after he just admitted to being the architect of the cycles. This means he is responsible for the death and destruction of not just innumerable beings, but INNUMERABLE CIVILIZATIONS.

Stop and think about that for a minute. This thing just admitted to killing so many beings that most people don't even know the names of the numbers need to quantify it, and Shep just says, "yea, okay, fvck it. time to get myself killed and end galactic civilization all because the little godkid reaper bast4rd told me to"

If we go by the Leviathan of Dis' age and the cycle happening every 50,000 years then the Reapers have wiped life out 20,000 times. Which is why I will never spare them or believe their "leader".

Then choose the destruction option. this wipes out all of the reapers. Yet it destroys the relays but the reapers would at least be gone.

But, again, why would Shepard believe that. Holographic kid says: Blow yourself up over there and we'll all go with you, honest! Why yes, I am in control of the Reapers, but I'm telling you the truth.

We know it's true, because we see it, but why would the character who doesn't get to witness that believe it?

[HrzRanok]

ecarden wrote...

HrzRanok wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

A more potent question, Why would Shep ever believe a word out of the little bast4rds mouth after he just admitted to being the architect of the cycles. This means he is responsible for the death and destruction of not just innumerable beings, but INNUMERABLE CIVILIZATIONS.

Stop and think about that for a minute. This thing just admitted to killing so many beings that most people don't even know the names of the numbers need to quantify it, and Shep just says, "yea, okay, fvck it. time to get myself killed and end galactic civilization all because the little godkid reaper bast4rd told me to"

If we go by the Leviathan of Dis' age and the cycle happening every 50,000 years then the Reapers have wiped life out 20,000 times. Which is why I will never spare them or believe their "leader".

Then choose the destruction option. this wipes out all of the reapers. Yet it destroys the relays but the reapers would at least be gone.

But, again, why would Shepard believe that. Holographic kid says: Blow yourself up over there and we'll all go with you, honest! Why yes, I am in control of the Reapers, but I'm telling you the truth.

We know it's true, because we see it, but why would the character who doesn't get to witness that believe it?

Whatever i saw or answer on that is merely opinion. The truth is nobody on these forums really truly knows why shephard did what he did. I gues you can jokingly say that Bioware ran out of development time... but that's just a little bit of a laugh.
I don't think he gave over as easily as you say he did but regardless that's my opinion.

There is alot of reasons and evidence but i am starting to see that bioware's real failure here is not explaining things enough. That I agree with.

Well, I have seen DLC correct games that have gone wrong before, maybe this time as well.

The best thing I can say is if you play the game up until the last 10 minutes of the game, it is actually a very good game just as that. i mean you could honestly just reset after shephard goes up to the catalyst and just ignore that for now.

has anyone, regardless of the ending, enjoyed the game beyond that?
I personally did. In fact I am playing through it now for the 3rd time. Not really because of the ending but because I liked the rest of the game.

[ecarden]

HrzRanok wrote...

ecarden wrote...

HrzRanok wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

A more potent question, Why would Shep ever believe a word out of the little bast4rds mouth after he just admitted to being the architect of the cycles. This means he is responsible for the death and destruction of not just innumerable beings, but INNUMERABLE CIVILIZATIONS.

Stop and think about that for a minute. This thing just admitted to killing so many beings that most people don't even know the names of the numbers need to quantify it, and Shep just says, "yea, okay, fvck it. time to get myself killed and end galactic civilization all because the little godkid reaper bast4rd told me to"

If we go by the Leviathan of Dis' age and the cycle happening every 50,000 years then the Reapers have wiped life out 20,000 times. Which is why I will never spare them or believe their "leader".

Then choose the destruction option. this wipes out all of the reapers. Yet it destroys the relays but the reapers would at least be gone.

But, again, why would Shepard believe that. Holographic kid says: Blow yourself up over there and we'll all go with you, honest! Why yes, I am in control of the Reapers, but I'm telling you the truth.

We know it's true, because we see it, but why would the character who doesn't get to witness that believe it?

Whatever i saw or answer on that is merely opinion. The truth is nobody on these forums really truly knows why shephard did what he did. I gues you can jokingly say that Bioware ran out of development time... but that's just a little bit of a laugh.
I don't think he gave over as easily as you say he did but regardless that's my opinion.

There is alot of reasons and evidence but i am starting to see that bioware's real failure here is not explaining things enough. That I agree with.

Well, I have seen DLC correct games that have gone wrong before, maybe this time as well.

The best thing I can say is if you play the game up until the last 10 minutes of the game, it is actually a very good game just as that. i mean you could honestly just reset after shephard goes up to the catalyst and just ignore that for now.

has anyone, regardless of the ending, enjoyed the game beyond that?
I personally did. In fact I am playing through it now for the 3rd time. Not really because of the ending but because I liked the rest of the game.

Yes. I enjoyed the game immensely up to the last five/ten minutes. I loved the confrontation with the illusive man, even though I wasn't able to convince him he was wrong (must have told him to take a hike at one point, because I was maxed out on rep). Shooting him, through his mind (or body, it was never quite clear which) control, just emphasized how mentally tough Shepard was (and how tough Anderson was, dude, that guy can take some ****)

The encounter with Jack at Grissom academy was a beautiful thing. Legion's death was well done and well worth it, an example of how self-sacrifice can be done and done well. Thane facing down Kai'Leng...

My Paragon Shepard never hit a renegade interrupt so hard as the one to break that bastards sword and give him an omniblade right in the gut.

Watching Tali step into her role as leader, despite everything that happened on Haestrom and Rannoch...having the admirals, except Han'Garrol (who I mostly loved in ME2) come around...

And Mordin.

I am the very model of a--

Damn.

[MrPuschel]

Because SCIENTOLOGY ALSO DOES.

[ecarden]

axsntch wrote...

Clearly he believes Space God because Bioware made him become Space Jesus.

Okay, this isn't relevant, but I still laughed.

Bad me.

[Iztiak]

Ahah, nice. I really wonder if Bioware is reading any of our discussion..

[ecarden]

Iztiak wrote...

Ahah, nice. I really wonder if Bioware is reading any of our discussion..

So they say. Though my guess is things like this (
http://social.biowar...index/9845819/1 ) will get their attention quicker and will also, hopefully, provoke a response of some sort, which is why I kicked in ten bucks over there. I certainly would have spent twice that on DLC for Mass Effect 3, as I did for 2 and 1 (hell, I even got pinnacle station...)

[HrzRanok]

now watching the ending for the 5th time and playing through the game.

The Kid or God or whatever he is says "If you want to destroy us do so but your children will create synthetics.. etc.) I am wondering if anyone heard that it would also destroy the geth.
Shephard basically said to him "maybe". Maybe as in, i will prove you wrong.
Godchild also said "If you chose one of these 3 options all of the mass relays will be destroyed regardless.."

So really if you didn't want to believe the godchild you didn't have to. Just choose the destroy option which destroys all reapers, all synthetics and gives you the ending that many are seeking.
Then you can put the statement of the creators destroyed by their creations to the test.

So basically the God child is flat out offering to Shephard, "go ahead and destroy us if you want.."

So knowing that. Help me see here what the problem is with this ending that everyone is having.

As the OP said "Why did he believe the godchild..'
Truth is we don't know know if shephard did. In fact if you chose the destruct option then you essentially told the godchild to go shove himself.

Just know that this also destroys the Geth and if you chose to unite the geth with the quarians then you essentially just screwed them as well.

If everyone is upset that he "gave in' to the godchild. he really didnt. maybe it just seems that way, i dont know.
You also have to understand he is standing there essentially getting the ever loving stuffings beaten out of him plus bleeding couple with blood loss. he was not in a position to fight anyone.
Maybe to disagree but not be all "YARRR!!" type.

So I ask again. If he didn't believe the godchild or think it was full of it. What would you have done?
Nobody has offered that to me yet.

[HrzRanok]

I will definately submit to the fact that you don't get to see ENOUGH of the ending. Like you don't know what happened to all of the other races because of this little issue including its not clear what happened to earth as a result of this.

You know I actually found one illogical thing. Why were they building the Crucible at all?
About half way through shephard learns that this crucible was NOT a prothean design. i am surprised nobody deduced that this, like the citadel, was also another reaper trap.

makes you wonder, could they have won without the crucible?

[ecarden]

HrzRanok wrote...

now watching the ending for the 5th time and playing through the game.

The Kid or God or whatever he is says "If you want to destroy us do so but your children will create synthetics.. etc.) I am wondering if anyone heard that it would also destroy the geth.
Shephard basically said to him "maybe". Maybe as in, i will prove you wrong.
Godchild also said "If you chose one of these 3 options all of the mass relays will be destroyed regardless.."

So really if you didn't want to believe the godchild you didn't have to. Just choose the destroy option which destroys all reapers, all synthetics and gives you the ending that many are seeking.
Then you can put the statement of the creators destroyed by their creations to the test.

So basically the God child is flat out offering to Shephard, "go ahead and destroy us if you want.."

So knowing that. Help me see here what the problem is with this ending that everyone is having.

As the OP said "Why did he believe the godchild..'
Truth is we don't know know if shephard did. In fact if you chose the destruct option then you essentially told the godchild to go shove himself.

Just know that this also destroys the Geth and if you chose to unite the geth with the quarians then you essentially just screwed them as well.

If everyone is upset that he "gave in' to the godchild. he really didnt. maybe it just seems that way, i dont know.
You also have to understand he is standing there essentially getting the ever loving stuffings beaten out of him plus bleeding couple with blood loss. he was not in a position to fight anyone.
Maybe to disagree but not be all "YARRR!!" type.

So I ask again. If he didn't believe the godchild or think it was full of it. What would you have done?
Nobody has offered that to me yet.

When you don't trust someone, you don't let them limit your options. Accepting that there are only three choices is an implicit statement that you trust that they're giving you either the only options, or the best options.

As for your what would I (or more accurately, my Shepard have done), did you read the rest of the thread?

As I've said like twenty times, ARGUE.

My Shepard talked down an indoctrinated Saren, talked up a broken Jack and talked together the Quarians and Geth. TALKING IS WHAT HE DOES, until he is faced with space god and folds like a cheap suit. Just minutes earlier he'd tried to talk down the Illusive Man, then overcome mind control to shoot the bastard, but now, because the writer's say so, all strength is gone, all wit is gone, all self is gone, leaving nothing but a shell for them to put awed words into.

PS: This isn't a response to you, but what I just said suggests the indoctrination theory is correct. Fine. And what happens after my Shepard succumbs, or succeeds? If it's right, they've left the ending out of the final game. Bull****.

[HrzRanok]

Right sorry I had to go back and read a bit. You did say you would want him to argue.
That's fine that he can argue with him but what would he argue with him. I think honestly at that point there wasn't much fight left in shep.
I think as people play more they are understanding the ending more. Mind you I said understanding, not liking or believing it.

Why didn't shephard think of something else? why didn't he just tell creepy space kid to go stick it where the sun don't shine.

And by the way, yes if you chose the destruct option it will destroy ALL synthetics including EDI, the GETH, and any other Ai life form in the whole galaxy.

So now let's be hypothetical and say your now Shephard. You've heard the glowing childs rant or explenation. So whats the next move, assuming you didn't believe a word the kid said.

me personally I think an additional dialogue should have been when the god child said "You can destroy us but your children will build AI."
I think shephards response instead of "maybe" should have been "We will prove you wrong.." and say something along those lines.
I think also Shep should have said "What if your wrong?"

So I guess the question then is what would I have done differently? or rather what would my shep have done?

- First, i would have told hacket to STOP production on the crucible because after hearing what Javik said i would have known it was just another reaper trap. In fact I had a suspicion this was just another bunch of control crap from the beginning and they should have found another way.

- But assuming the crucible was built. I too would have understood what the god child said but I would have also said "Uhhh and why should I believe you?" or probably discussed a bit more.

The problem is I have no idea what Shephards state was. I mean if I was as in bad shape as he was I am not sure I would have been able to argue much either.

My one dissapointment was that there was not a 4th option. Basically to NOT use the crucible at all and just wait it out to see if the battle for earth turned. But...

Given the 3 options -
I would not have chosen the control option. That leaves the reapers in place and alive. screw that idea right in the ear.

- I would not have chosen destruct. Not because of what I believe the god child said, but because it would have destroyed the Geth as well. I just spent the last two games bringing those things out of the gutter. to have them simply destroyed is stupid in my view. plus it would also destroyed ALL synthetics including myself as I have synthetics. Maybe if was a renegade and in fact my renegade evil bastard shep chose destruction.

I would have chosen symbiosis. Also not because I believe what creepy glowing child said but because it creates a new life form that is the combination of synthetics and organics. to me that is the perfect fusion.

I also still don't believe that the god child and the reapers were the same. he said he created and controls the reapers, but I do not believe IT was a reaper per say. In fact i am a little confused on what exactly that thing is. He said he created the reapers for a solution, but didn't explain who it was or more about why the reapers were needed to begin with.

The question posed by the OP is answered by the words in this whole thread.
- We don't know if Shep believed the god child or not.
- There needs to be more dialogue.

That I can absolutely agree with.

While I did understand the ending I think it left far too much to the imagination.
- What happened to earth after the Mass relay blew up?
- What happened to all of the plotlines you resolved IE the quarian, the krogan, etc..
I mean you find out what happened to the normandy but nothing else.

i don't think you need to CHANGE the ending per say, it just needs to have a bit more. More detail, more explenation, more dialoague for shep at the end to be a bit more argumentative with the guardian. I also think they need to show the 4th option. Shep walking away and not doing anything.
Yeah, it may lead to the cycle continuing, but that needs to be offered. Shep had the option to say, "I am not believing anything you say, the crucible is just another method of control, go screw yourself.." The ONE in the matrix had that choice, so should shephard.

I also want to scold Bioware on something. They didn't have to kill off shephard and end the series here. They should have thought about that before doing so. It had to end somewhere, but there could have been more to the story and an ME4.

right now if I hear of an ME4 that just deals with a pre-qual or anything that doesn't have to deal with what happened AFTER the crucible being used, I am not interested to be honest.

I don't care about what the Asari, quarian, or any other species did before the events of ME3. I also don't want a second story that is parallel to ME3.

The only sequel I will consider buying or being interested in is something that is an "alternate" timeline reboot possibly or something to deal with after the events of ME3. IMO doing something like a MAss effect of the old republic where they go way back in the timeline won't cut it for me.
To me that's BIOWARE's mistake. You end the series with no hope of a sequel then to me its over and I can move on to another story.

Thanks.

[Drewbioso]

What I don't get about the stupid starchild and why I refuse to believe anything he says is the way that the reapers harvest advanced civilizations.

Melting people down in tubes (while they're alive and screaming in pain), turning their own kind against them as twisted organic/synthetic hybrids? I'm supposed to believe this is the best solution an all powerful being can come up with? I think not, and that is why I'll pick destroy every single time.

[ecarden]

Drewbioso wrote...

What I don't get about the stupid starchild and why I refuse to believe anything he says is the way that the reapers harvest advanced civilizations.

Melting people down in tubes (while they're alive and screaming in pain), turning their own kind against them as twisted organic/synthetic hybrids? I'm supposed to believe this is the best solution an all powerful being can come up with? I think not, and that is why I'll pick destroy every single time.

This is the problem with introducing an all powerful being to any universe (we can argue about my use of space god terminology, but it can rewrite the DNA of everything in the universe to be half-synthetic, half-organic (DNA DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY) so I've got to say, it sure acts all powerful. Better proof, Shepard can't argue, despite arguing with the Council, the Dalatress, the Illusive Man, Sovereign, Harbringer and a Reaper he just took out with a laser pointer.)

WHICH IS WHY THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

Sorry, not trying to yell at you Drew, but...it annoys me.